Monday, 2016-03-28

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openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone: Updated role using the Multi-Distro framework  https://review.openstack.org/29561504:07
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prometheanfirecloudnull: go to bed04:10
prometheanfirecloudnull: fix your commit message04:10
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openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Updates all repo SHAs to prepare for Mitaka release  https://review.openstack.org/29679904:27
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winggundamthis OSA will release at the same day as mitaka release?04:51
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openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone: Updated role using the Multi-Distro framework  https://review.openstack.org/29561505:04
prometheanfirewinggundamth: I doubt it but should follow soon, I'm hoping it's same day05:07
winggundamthlet me know if you need help. I'm newbie but I'm going to join upstream university at Austin summit. hope I can do sth05:10
cloudnullwinggundamth:  in the past we've done same day releases for stable however the first day is always super UnStable so its likely we will give it a couple of days to bake to catch 0 day bugs however odyssey4me would be a better person to ask.05:10
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* prometheanfire needs to look at the summit schedule05:12
prometheanfireWOOO >>> Jobs: 114 of 114 complete                       Load avg: 1.17, 4.14, 3.8605:13
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pjm6Hi there :D09:38
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Bofu2UAnything I should know before physically moving my entire openstack cluster? :P11:21
Bofu2UI'm thinking along the lines of galera resetting, etc.11:21
Bofu2U(full disconnect of all nodes, controllers, etc - then reconnect in another location. internal IP's will remain the same)11:21
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mhaydenmornin'11:49
Bofu2Umornin11:55
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mhaydenis today a bank holiday in the uk? i never can remember :)12:45
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retrevedmhayden: https://www.gov.uk/bank-holidays12:54
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pjm6hey, I have a doubt (about openstack in general)13:09
pjm6we have multiple datacenters (tenants) where users can create13:10
pjm6various virtual machines, right?13:10
pjm6By default that VMs (or instances in this case) are accessed by SSH (we inject the SSH key)13:10
pjm6but for accessing that VMs we must use floating IPs in order to access to the instances, right?13:10
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mhaydenretreved: haha, thanks13:28
mhaydenpjm6: well, that depends on how you configure your network13:28
mhaydenyou can place a VM onto a network that is accessible without the need of floating IP addresses13:29
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mhaydenApsu: looks like HPE shared their LBaaS v1->v2 migration script after all -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289595/13:29
pjm6mhayden: that way I have an shared network, right?13:37
mhaydenpjm6: you could share an accessible network with multiple tenants if you wanted to avoid floating IP's, or in addition to floating IP's13:39
pjm6thanks mhayden, I can do that like this http://blog.oddbit.com/2014/05/28/multiple-external-networks-wit/13:41
pjm6?13:41
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mhaydenpjm6: well, that's an ovs-specific example there13:56
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pjm6mhayden: yes, you are right but I didn't find an example with Neutron14:07
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pjm6I assume that would be possible but i didn't find an example in how to do it. I assumed that example could work with neutron, but maybe i'm thinking wrongly?14:08
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pabelangermorning!14:36
pabelangerI haven't checked, but are using doing lxc containers as root or unprivileged user?14:38
pabelangerand is there any differences in functionality?14:38
spotzmorning14:38
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mhaydenpabelanger: they run as root with some AppArmor profiles applied14:59
palendaeI believe there are differences in functionality between running as root and an unprivileged used15:00
palendaeuer*15:00
palendae...15:00
palendaeI think in Ubuntu unprivileged users can only make containers with the lxc template scripts15:01
cloudnullmorning15:11
spotzmorning cloudnull15:11
cloudnullohai spotz15:11
cloudnullBofu2U: just note the cabling :)15:12
cloudnullthe galera restart will need to be handled from full service down, but that can be done using the galera-install.yml play15:13
cloudnullrabbitmq might also need some nudging depending on how it was shutdown15:13
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cloudnullodyssey4me: you about today ?15:16
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palendaeI think most of the UK is still off today15:19
cloudnullyea, bank holiday15:19
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is restarting on review.openstack.org in an attempt to address an issue reading an object from the ec2-api repository15:20
cloudnull^ exciting15:20
spotzheheh15:22
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automagicallymorning15:33
cloudnullo/ automagically15:36
spotzmorning automagically15:37
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pjm6morning all :)15:43
pjm6morning all15:43
cloudnullo/ pjm615:45
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pjm6everything's good?15:46
mhaydenas far as i can tell!15:46
spotzmorning pjm615:47
openstackgerritKevin Carter (cloudnull) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Updates all repo SHAs to prepare for Mitaka release  https://review.openstack.org/29679915:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-repo_server: Remove dependency on python2_lxc git source  https://review.openstack.org/27979015:51
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cloudnullany cores around that want to test/review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295866/15:54
cloudnull:)15:54
cloudnull+ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296799 too15:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_container_create: Remove dependency on python2_lxc git source  https://review.openstack.org/27978815:56
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cloudnull^ that one is blocking the integrated gate at this point as we begin testing mitaka 215:56
spotzcloudnull will my 1 help? If so I'll go review15:58
openstackgerritAla Raddaoui proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_hosts: Add a check for hosts particular kernel modules  https://review.openstack.org/29179715:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-rabbitmq_server: Remove dependency on python2_lxc git source  https://review.openstack.org/27978916:01
cloudnullthanks spots16:04
cloudnull * spotz16:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_swift: Remove dependency on python2_lxc git source  https://review.openstack.org/29707016:04
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pabelangermhayden: palendae: thanks for the info. Going to give unprivileged lxc a try first. If I have major issue, I'll just do sudo16:13
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palendaepabelanger: Some useful information to be armed with from the LXC technical lead: https://www.stgraber.org/2014/01/17/lxc-1-0-unprivileged-containers/16:14
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pjm6in neutron I have added an bridge associated with an ethernet adapter, I already give an IP to that bridge (using OVS) and created in the neutron of openstack16:40
pjm6but when I attach an adapter connected in that network the VM can't access to that traffic16:41
pjm6anyone have a clue of how debug this better?16:41
pabelangerpalendae: thanks, reading now16:41
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cloudnullif anyone has spare review cycles -- this could use some https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297665/ -- that fixes the glance_store bug that is causing us issues when storing glance images in swift18:00
cloudnullIm testing it today, will post feedback in the review soon-ish, however more would be benificial18:01
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openstackgerritTravis Truman (automagically) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_openrc: Set OS_TENANT_NAME for backward compatibility  https://review.openstack.org/29836218:14
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openstackgerritTravis Truman (automagically) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_openrc: Set OS_TENANT_NAME for backward compatibility  https://review.openstack.org/29836218:23
openstackgerritHector I Gonzalez Mendoza proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_glance: Updated role using Multi-Distro framework  https://review.openstack.org/29732018:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-openstack_openrc: Set OS_TENANT_NAME for backward compatibility  https://review.openstack.org/29836218:57
spotzWe got our fishbowl Wednesday 11:50-12:30, I'll have to miss the second half to make it to my session:(18:57
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pjm6about the deployment of the ansible, where we define the floating ips?19:03
pjm6it's different of Tunnel network right? (Tunnel is only between the tenants)19:04
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cloudnullpjm6: in openstack-ansible youd define your VLANs that you want to use within the bridge config19:18
cloudnullpost deployment you'd simply create your neutron networks using the neutron command line client19:18
cloudnullopenstack-ansible does not configure the services post deployment.19:18
cloudnullit sets them up for use19:18
pjm6hmm, so the bridge of the tunnel (bond1) is where I can put my DMZ networks that I want, right?19:19
cloudnullbr-vlan normally19:19
pjm6hm, thanks :) I was reading the doc and I appears that doubt to me19:19
cloudnulland your range of vlans that you intend to use within that network can be set here19:20
cloudnullhttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_user_config.yml.aio#L5619:20
pjm6that VLAN correspond to the VLAN of the existing networks and not the VLANs of the tenants, right?19:20
cloudnullyes19:20
cloudnullexisting networks19:20
cloudnullin most setups tenant networks will be created using vxlan19:21
cloudnullif nay cores are around it'd be great to get this through for further mitaka rc2 testing -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296799/ --19:22
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cloudnull^ while that sets the glance backend to file, it does pull in the latest mitaka rc2 upstream changes.19:22
cloudnullthe file change is becuase of the upstream store issue19:23
pjm6cloudnull: thanks =) that helps a lot in understanding the flow of neutron19:24
pjm6one more question, in this section http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/install-guide/targethosts-prepare.html#configuring-lvm19:24
cloudnullsure , whats up ?19:25
pjm6(configuring LVM) it's recommend to use a dedicated volume to create the LVM, right?19:25
pjm6for example, I have /dev/sda for operating system, then /dev/sdb or other should be using when creating this LVM volume, right?19:25
cloudnullI would.19:25
cloudnullif you have the devices/partitions to spare19:25
cloudnullif sda has a free partition you can use that too.19:26
pjm6for testing and mounting the storage node to have 2 disks, but for good practices is good to have one separated from other, right?19:27
cloudnullpjm6: if your using ceph can not the LVM backend you may not need the "cinder-volumes" volume group19:27
pjm6cloudnull: no, I will be using cinder because later I will attach it to an storage via iSCSCI19:27
pjm6and if I understand, the Ceph is good when I have lots of disks19:27
cloudnullpjm6: as a best practice I'd keep them separate.19:27
cloudnullpjm6:  that is correct.19:27
cloudnullwas just making sure you knew the volume group setup is optional and is based on your block-storage backend19:28
pjm6yes, thank you.19:30
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pjm6hope that my deployment goes good :)19:30
pjm6it's problematic if I deploy only one infra_host ?19:30
pjm6(for testing propuses)19:30
cloudnullno.19:30
cloudnulljust do it in odd numbers19:31
daledudewhen adding networking to provider_networks in openstack_user_config.yml what playbooks should i re-run?19:31
cloudnull1 ok, 2 not, 3 ok.19:31
pjm62 is not ok for some reason'19:31
pjm6?19:31
pjm6initially I don't know if I could have 3 servers for redundancy19:31
cloudnullpjm6:  the infra servers are used for galera (database) and rabbit (messaging) clusters and they dont do well when running with even numbers of servers because of quorum .19:32
cloudnulldaledude: what networks are being added?19:33
cloudnullis it for lxc containers ? or just updates that need to go into neutron's config ?19:33
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stevelleI'm still deploying an env for that glance one as well19:33
cloudnullif its for the containers themselves to get a new network just rerun lxc-container-create.yml after you add the new networks19:34
cloudnullstevelle: thanks19:34
pjm6cloudnull: if I add infra host inside a network host to, it's too bad? as they run like containers and don't know which impact they cause19:34
cloudnullthats fine19:35
pjm6thanks cloudnull :)19:35
cloudnullin production we run separate nework hosts because we're wanting to maximize capacity however network services run fine on the infra boxes19:36
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cloudnullall of the neutron agent bits live within the container.19:36
pjm6yes, this is because I will have bare metals19:36
pjm6and I only planed two for controller, two for network and two for storage19:36
pjm6didn't know about the odd numbers :x19:37
stevelleyou do need an odd number of galera and rabbit containers, just set affinity: 2 on one of the hosts for each19:37
stevelleaffinity is mentioned in the docs19:37
pjm6stevelle: thanks, but the affinity is the number of containers that a host should run about a service, right?19:38
stevellepjm6: correct.19:38
pjm6sorry for the question (probably will be ultra noob )19:38
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pjm6what's the advantage of have redundacy in the same host (but with different contaniners?)19:38
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pjm6is for the case that a container for some reason could freak out and stops working ?19:38
stevellepjm6: there is no advantage except for the fact that galera and rabbit expect an odd number of members in the cluster19:39
stevelleand those are both clustered to avoid having a single point of failure on those critical infra servies19:39
pjm6hmm ok :) for some point it make senses19:39
pjm6it's like the airplane controllers, it has 3 to make the voter, and make sure that at least two agree in the value19:40
stevelleyou need an odd number, so with 2 infra hosts you either start over with 3 infra hosts or you bump affinity :)19:40
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stevellegood analogy19:40
pjm6I think i will adopt one host with affinity of two, and the other with one =)19:41
pjm6in the future19:41
pjm6its easy to upgrade this architecture?19:41
pjm6like, removing the affinity of 2 to 1 in the host1 and add another host19:41
pjm6thanks stevelle :)19:41
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daledudecloudnull: sorry for delay. im adding new external networks. didnt know if the agent lxc containers needed the new interfaces too19:49
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mrdaThanks odyssey4me + others for seeing https://review.openstack.org/296077 through19:51
cloudnullso if your adding new entries like so https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/master/etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_user_config.yml.aio#L42-L50 -- all you need to do is rerun the lxc-container-create play and the os-neutron-install play19:51
cloudnullwhen you reconfigure neutron you can use a tag to make it faster19:51
cloudnullopenstack-ansible os-neutron-install.yml --tags neutron-config19:51
* cloudnull is assuming what your adding is for neutron19:52
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mhaydenif anyone has any feedback on the lbaasv2 backport for liberty, let me know! :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295866/19:57
daledudecloudnull: thanks19:57
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cloudnullanytime daledude20:03
spotzmhayden that one still in progress?:)20:04
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daledudeim on 12.0.8 atm but interested in going to mitaka since im not using anything for production yet. is it possible to go from 12.0.8 to mitaki with osad? or should i *really* wait till april for final osad mitaka release?20:12
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pjm6what value should I put here INTERNAL_LB_VIP_ADDRESS and here external_lb_vip_address if i'm not using a load balancer?20:31
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pjm6or this is the primary IP that I define, for example if my infra_hosts the IP of the first is 10.0.0.100, the internal_lb_vip_address would be 10.0.0.100 ?20:34
automagicallypjm6: That should work. Are you installing HAProxy?20:35
pjm6and the external is the IP that are connected to DMZ, right?20:36
pjm6I didn't get to that part, but I was thinking installing yes20:36
automagicallypjm6: You are correct (I believe) about the external20:37
pjm6I was confusing, because this IP is the VIP that will be used to mask a failure, right?20:38
pjm6if I put an IP of one of the servers, the HA wouldn't fail ?20:38
pjm6forget it20:39
pjm6The Ip that I define20:39
automagicallyWell, both internal and external can be VIPs. The HAProxy playbook also sets up keepalived config that you can use to shuffle a single IP between all three of your infra hosts that are running HAProxy. That’s probably the best approach to take20:39
pjm6should not be the same as the HOST,20:39
pjm6like infra1: 10.10.0.101; infra2: 10.10.0.102; infra3: 10.10.0.10320:39
pjm6after a failure of one of them, one will bring up the virtual IP 10.10.0.100, right?20:39
automagicallyIt should not be the same as the host, it should be the one you provide to keepalived to use as the VIP. That’s why I was asking about your plans on installing HAProxy20:40
pjm6Yes, I will install it for redundancy :)20:40
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pjm6thanks automagically20:40
pjm6but if I wanted an single deployment (for testing) that VIP could be the IP of the current host, right?20:41
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automagicallyYes20:47
mhaydenspotz: that's the liberty backport20:48
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pjm6thanks20:53
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spotzmhayden ahh21:02
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openstackgerritMatthew Thode proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova: remove depricated manager options  https://review.openstack.org/29845022:10
prometheanfirecloudnull: have fun https://review.openstack.org/29845022:10
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