Friday, 2016-03-25

odyssey4mejmccrory yeah, there's a ton of work to be done in actually making it functional00:00
jmccroryyeah think should be left for functional testing. anyway, looks good otherwise, +2 when jenkins comes back00:01
odyssey4meinitially I actually want to target not using standalone mode, because the team working on this wants to merge it into the integrated build asap00:01
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openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_aodh: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/29746000:03
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ceilometer: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/29746200:04
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/29746300:04
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/29746400:04
openstackgerritJesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/openstack-ansible-os_nova: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/29746500:04
odyssey4mealright, I'm out for the weekend00:07
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odyssey4mehave a great day tomorrow - I hope that someone can figure out the glance_store/swift/keystonev3 auth issue so that we can move beyond it00:07
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odyssey4mehave a good weekend though, I'll be back on Tue00:08
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openstackgerritKevin Carter proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Remove pip_get_pip_options override from group_vars  https://review.openstack.org/29659405:34
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openstackgerritHieu LE proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add project scoped token when obtaning token  https://review.openstack.org/29756307:56
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openstackgerritHieu LE proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add project scoped token when obtaning token  https://review.openstack.org/29756308:02
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odyssey4memattt sigmavirus24_awa I've created a bug for the Keystone v3 API / glance_store / Swift issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/156194710:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1561947 in openstack-ansible "Glance Store fails to authenticate to Swift with Keystone v3 API" [Critical,Confirmed]10:52
odyssey4mePlease add more details to the bug if you discover anything useful.10:53
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cloudnullmorning13:22
admin0morning13:22
admin0my ceph integration playbook went OK13:22
admin0now checking :F13:22
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cloudnullsweet!13:28
admin0ceph df ..  glance-images      10     12976k :)13:40
admin0glance is good13:40
admin0testing cinder and then nova13:40
admin0after that, will break this env completely and re-do from stractch ..13:41
automagicallymorning13:41
admin0morning ?13:41
admin0hangover ;) ?13:41
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admin0glance images and nova ephemeral-vms working fine ..13:46
admin0cidner something wrong, fixing13:46
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admin0\o/ cinder also working :D14:05
admin0cinder backup left to test :)14:05
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admin0if I remove the is_metal flag when using ceph, i cannot mix another is_metal storage right ?14:07
admin0like if i want to do ceph + lvm dual offering ?14:08
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admin0cinder_service_backup_ceph_pool: cinder-backup14:13
admin0waht do I need to do to test (have ceph ) write to this pool ?14:13
admin0sorry .. i mean cinder14:13
admin0when does cinder use that pool ?14:13
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admin0cinder snapshot does not write there . . what writes to that pool ?14:14
logan-cinder-backup service if you deploy it. it is a separate service from cinder volumes/snapshots14:14
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logan-https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/liberty/playbooks/roles/os_cinder/defaults/main.yml#L108-L13314:17
admin0\o/14:25
admin0doing a complete redo  once more and will then update the blog14:26
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pjm6Hi there14:40
automagicallyhey pjm614:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible: Fix doc build warnings  https://review.openstack.org/29737014:41
pjm6everythings good? :)14:41
automagicallyIndeed14:41
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pjm6nice :D14:43
cloudnullohai pjm6 automagically14:48
pjm6hi cloudnull14:48
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admin0logan: cinder_service_backup_compression_algorithm: zlib  — is this valid for ceph as well ?15:43
admin0logan-: ^^ :D15:43
logan-not sure i don't use cinder-backup. ceph doesn't do any compression but it might be a feature of the cinder-backup service15:44
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admin0ok :)15:47
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cloudnulladmin0 If i remember right, the cinder-backup service will create an archive of your device and store it where you've configed the osa default is swift16:04
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spotzo/ - kinda late16:07
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winggundamth_hi. I'm going to deploy on our production now after a month lab test. I have some questions again :)16:14
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winggundamth_is it possible to have multiple br-vlan interface on difference bond? like br-vlan-1, br-vlan-216:14
kyssewhy?16:14
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winggundamth_we plan to use vlan for both external and internal so we want to separate interface between both16:15
cloudnullwinggundamth_: yes16:16
cloudnullnow, does that mean you have that many interfaces though ?16:16
cloudnull1 bond is normally 2 interfaces at a minimum16:17
cloudnullyou'd likely be better off using vlan tagged interfaces on a 10Gb adapter16:17
cloudnullthen you put your vlan tagged devices into the bridges16:17
winggundamth_cloudnull: yes. we have like 4 x 10gb16:18
winggundamth_http://paste.openstack.org/show/491917/ so configuration like this should do the trick right?16:18
winggundamth_just wonder when I put more container interface like eth12, eth13 and so on. it shouldn't have a problem on both neutron and nova nodes right?16:19
cloudnullyes that look fine16:32
cloudnullno issues with that at all16:32
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cloudnullthoes additional interfaces will be in the neutron-agent container.16:32
winggundamth_cloudnull: nice thanks. I'll let you know the result when I deploy with this configuration on Monday16:32
cloudnullcool16:32
winggundamth_found that one of our server broken and need to replace part on Monday :(16:33
cloudnullthats a bummer16:34
winggundamth_another question. can we do neutron vrrp with 2 nodes? because we have 2 dedicated servers for neutron.16:34
cloudnullyes you can16:34
winggundamth_nice16:34
winggundamth_I think my last question would be storage_hosts. from example configuration it will deploy on only 1 node so this is the single point of failure?16:36
cloudnullit is16:36
cloudnullstorage host being cinder.16:37
winggundamth_it's cinder-volume right16:37
cloudnullif you use cinder + lvm as the backend its a single point of failure16:37
winggundamth_we are using ceph. is it still will be single point of failure?16:37
cloudnullyou can do nfs, ceph, netapp, etc if you need it to be HA16:37
cloudnullah well if the backend is ceph then no.16:38
winggundamth_I think I don't understand much about how storage_hosts related to ceph. or actually I don't need it?16:38
winggundamth_does it means I don't have to deploy storage_hosts when using ceph?16:38
cloudnullif you only have one host its a single point of failure in terms of attaching new volumes to a VM or working with the API however your backend is highly available16:39
* cloudnull is assuming you have a ceph cluster outside of openstack16:39
winggundamth_we have ceph cluster outside of OpenStack16:40
cloudnullso you should be ok with just one storage host.16:40
winggundamth_can you guide me about how storage and nova host related to ceph? how it connect together?16:41
cloudnullin fact you will only be using ceph you can make a change here https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible/blob/liberty/etc/openstack_deploy/env.d/cinder.yml#L57-L6216:41
cloudnulland set is_metal: false16:41
cloudnullthat will install the cinder-volume service into a container instead of on the host16:41
cloudnullwhich can then be done on an infra node16:42
cloudnullgiving you no single point of failure16:42
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winggundamth_does it means I can deploy 3 cinder-volume service on infra nodes right?16:42
cloudnullyes.16:43
cloudnulljust NOT with an lvm backend, it works, but its VERY NOT recommended16:43
winggundamth_no worries. no plan for lvm :)16:43
cloudnullregarding ceph setup, I'd have a look at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-ansible/search.html?q=ceph&check_keywords=yes&area=default16:43
cloudnullim no ceph expert16:44
winggundamth_I'm setup ceph from https://github.com/ceph/ceph-ansible16:44
winggundamth_it really works well on our lab test16:44
cloudnullperfect16:44
cloudnullthats what i'd use16:44
cloudnullOSA wont deploy ceph .16:45
cloudnullwe'll just hook into it16:45
winggundamth_so this really perfect match16:45
winggundamth_just want to confirm. if I deploy 3 cinder-volume on infra nodes. Ansible will configure it to sit under haproxy and the other services will connect via haproxy right?16:47
cloudnullyup16:47
cloudnulljust run the haproxy-install play it'll do all the rest for you16:47
winggundamth_:D16:47
winggundamth_I really keen to do it now :(16:48
winggundamth_my configuration is ready but god won't allow me16:48
cloudnullha. the friday hardware gods must be mad with you :)16:53
cloudnulltime to sacrifice a harddrive16:53
cloudnull:p16:53
winggundamth_lol16:53
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openstackgerritKevin Carter proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Updates all repo SHAs to open up work on Mitaka RC's  https://review.openstack.org/29679917:00
winggundamth_cloudnull: will you at summit austin?17:07
cloudnulli will17:08
cloudnullyou ?17:08
winggundamth_yes :)17:08
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cloudnullnice.17:10
cloudnullfirst round is on me :)17:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_neutron: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/29746417:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_keystone: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/29746317:11
winggundamth_haha. I really love this summit since last time I even have no idea at all about how to start with OpenStack17:11
winggundamth_a lot of options on that time until I met OSA17:12
winggundamth_hell yeah :D17:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_aodh: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/29746017:12
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winggundamth_cloudnull mattt odyssey4me ant the others. just wonder, I see you guys work on OSA all day. So you guys work for the company or your own?17:13
cloudnullmattt odyssey4me and I work at Rackspace17:13
automagicallyI work for Comcast17:14
spotzRackspace17:14
automagicallyOther contributors work for Intel and Walmart17:14
automagicallyAmong others17:14
cloudnull++17:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ceilometer: Switch defaults/tests to use stable/mitaka branch  https://review.openstack.org/29746217:14
winggundamth_so you mean OSA is your job?17:14
winggundamth_I mean full time job for the company17:15
cloudnullI work for the Rackspace Private Cloud, and we use OSA for our deployments17:15
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cloudnullso yes, kinda.17:15
cloudnulla lot of the time im contributing away from work17:16
cloudnullbecause I have issues17:16
automagicallyhaha17:16
winggundamth_so what is your other tasks except OSA? like sysadmin or developer?17:16
spotzDon't laught automagically he does:) Course I was reviewing last night too:)17:16
automagicallyI do sometimes too17:16
spotzI'm a linux engineer, I just help on OSA and a few other projects17:17
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cloudnullfor me: developer / architecture is my full time17:17
winggundamth_wow. I really envy you guys. doing contribute on open source all day as a job and get paid as well ><17:19
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winggundamth_I wonder sometimes in the future, I will work on company that I get paid from contribute to the open source as my main task as well17:21
automagicallyIt is a great opportunity when you can find it17:24
spotzI just do it on the side at work and home, not my primary function but I'm a good multitasker17:24
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winggundamth_yeah. not much opportunity in Thailand17:28
winggundamth_I can count no more than 10 Thai contributors on open source project17:28
winggundamth_very famous one is debian developer who did libthai17:29
spotzThailand is .22% https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/c/c9/MemberGeoData-20150903.pdf17:35
spotzNot even the lowest % contributer winggundamth_ :)17:35
winggundamth_haha yeah17:36
winggundamth_go to bed now. almost 1am here. will let you know the production deploy result on Monday17:41
winggundamth_bye17:41
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cloudnullhave a good one17:44
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SamYaplecloudnull and "have issues"?! these make no sense together17:54
cloudnullwhat ?17:54
SamYaple17:17:17 < cloudnull> because I have issues17:54
SamYaplei am make the jokes17:55
cloudnullhahahaha17:55
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cloudnulli need the more words17:56
automagicallyI’m in the process of developing an OSA role for Rally, at what point might it make sense to migrate it from https://github.com/trumant/openstack-ansible-os_rally into Gerrit/etc? I’m guessing the process if adding it involves some infra patches and some governance work...17:56
automagicallyIts not even close to done, so definitely not a pressing question, but figured I’d throw it out there now17:57
cloudnullautomagically: Im keen on getting things into the namespace whenever.18:01
cloudnullif the basic stubout works18:01
cloudnullwe can work on the role making it better via gerrit once there.18:01
cloudnullmy 2cents18:01
automagicallyk, cool18:02
SamYaplehey question. whats OSA policy on new projects?18:04
SamYapleby austin summit i plan to have alpha/techpreview ekko with backup and restore only18:04
SamYaplewanted to add that into the deployment tools,just wanted to check policies first18:05
automagicallyThis seems like a good guide: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html18:05
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SamYapleautomagically: ekko is already a project18:08
SamYapleit is not big tent yet18:08
SamYaplethat was my question to OSA18:08
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cloudnullSamYaple: I'd be _VERY_ keen on getting an Ekko role18:09
SamYapleeven outside of big tent?18:10
odyssey4meautomagically you should get in touch with meteorfox who calready has a rally role, although it's dated and needs work - I'm sure he'd be good to collaborate with18:10
cloudnullit doesnt have to be bigtent, just OS namespace IMO18:10
automagicallyodyssey4me: Ah thanks18:10
SamYapleok. well id like to do that for you guys18:10
SamYaplemore people using it == easier time in TC18:10
cloudnull++18:11
automagicallyI found it: https://github.com/meteorfox/ansible-rally18:11
SamYaple1.0 is expect for newton18:11
cloudnullawesome18:11
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SamYaplewere just about done bikesheeding the design18:11
SamYaplecode should be rather trivial (other then youre normal bugs)18:11
SamYapleman my typing is not having its best day ever18:12
odyssey4meSamYaple we can easily collaborate on a deployment role for an OpenStack project without it becoming an official 'big tent' project in any way, if that's a concern - we can apply some governance and collaborate, but just not include it in the governance list of projects until it's appropriate to do so. That would be a new model for us, and I think the Ausitin summit is going to be a good time for us to discuss that sort of thing - we're18:13
odyssey4me reaching out to a lot of projects to form partnerships in various ways.18:13
odyssey4meautomagically that role was developed initially a long time ago, well before we had config_template... so it's likely dated - but it could be a good reference and I'm sure that meteorfox would be happy to use something else, especially if there's an opportunity to co-develop18:14
SamYapleodyssey4me: ok. well openstack is in the OS namespace since a while back. but there was some freezer v ekko concerns that may prevent it from being bigtent long run. My guess is i can certainly make the case that block-backup != file-backup, but time will tell. in the mean time i think i still understand OSA enough to add it in for you guys18:15
SamYaplesorry, ekko is in the OS namespace*18:15
odyssey4meyep, let's chat at the summit18:16
odyssey4meas today is not a work day for me....18:16
* odyssey4me goes back to !computering :)18:16
meteorfoxautomagically:  odyssey4me : yep, also that role was very minimal. It doesn't expose almost anything yet, so it still needs work18:17
automagicallymeteorfox: Thanks, I took a quick look. My plan is to use Galera instead of sqlite, but otherwise I think we probably have similar goals18:18
SamYapleodyssey4me: computer harder!18:18
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cloudnullafk a bit18:18
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meteorfoxautomagically: cool18:19
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cloudnullIDK if any cores are still around however if anyone has time to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/295866 -- I'd appreciate it --cc mhayden22:20
cloudnullthat said, Im out have a good one everyone22:20
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