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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Stop configure_diskspace from using small partitions https://review.openstack.org/216880 | 00:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-lxc_container_create: New git dotfiles for independant repository https://review.openstack.org/248634 | 00:51 |
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| iceyao | good morning | 01:18 |
| mattoliverau | cloudnull: you still around? | 01:20 |
| mattoliverau | iceyao: morning | 01:21 |
| iceyao | mattoliverau: hi | 01:21 |
| mattoliverau | Well to any ansible experts here, is it possible to default a default. I'm working on a template. What I want is to do something like: blah = {{ blah1 | default(blah2 | default (some_default)) }} | 01:22 |
| mattoliverau | and not sure if thats possible | 01:23 |
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| mattoliverau | or do I have to do some 'if' fu | 01:23 |
| mattoliverau | I guess I could just try | 01:23 |
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| cloudnull | Mattoliverau idk if that'll work. | 01:32 |
| cloudnull | I think youd need some if fu but I guess it's worth a go. | 01:32 |
| mattoliverau | cloudnull: yeah, looking at the api I don't think so, so am doing if elif statements. | 01:32 |
| cloudnull | Ok. Back to rocket league. | 01:33 |
| mattoliverau | cloudnull: I just want to be able to default statsd configuration globally under swift and at the swift_vars level to finer tuning.. I'm probably over killing, but I think that'll be cool. | 01:34 |
| cloudnull | It'd be cool for sure. | 01:34 |
| mattoliverau | cloudnull: go have fun, sorry to distrub, enjoy your holiday | 01:34 |
| cloudnull | No disturbing has happened. I'm an irc addict. | 01:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Oliver proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Add statsd configuration for swift https://review.openstack.org/246182 | 02:39 |
| bgmccollum | cloudnull: you lurking? | 02:40 |
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| SamYaple | bgmccollum: says he is an irc addict but he isnt around. pfff | 03:39 |
| SamYaple | probably off killing some clouds | 03:39 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 03:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible: autodetect neutron service_en https://review.openstack.org/248545 | 04:12 |
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| odyssey4me | evrardjp I would retry. There are times when some sort of maintenance is happening and then stuff breaks. :p | 14:08 |
| evrardjp | Doing it :) | 14:08 |
| mgariepy | http://paste.ubuntu.com/13514816/ | 14:08 |
| mgariepy | it never restarted the service on ctrl02/03. | 14:09 |
| evrardjp | so odyssey4me: you needed this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248707/3 for all the repos? | 14:09 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp whatever is decided to be the final solution to make running the repo tests easier when you build your own host to test on will need to be replicated... but for now we have no agreement on a final solution - waiting for reviews. | 14:11 |
| evrardjp | the tox.ini should be changed IMO. the wrapper why not. | 14:12 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp basically I'm lazy - if I want to test the role to check that my changes work, I want to be able to do it quickly and simply | 14:14 |
| evrardjp | I know, I'm following the same mindset :) | 14:14 |
| odyssey4me | mgariepy the services will only restart where they need to based on the changes that happened | 14:14 |
| evrardjp | that's why I +1d | 14:15 |
| mgariepy | well i know, but when the code change for keystone wouldn't it be needed for apache to restart ? | 14:23 |
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| odyssey4me | mgariepy was there a SHA update between those tags (there isn't always) - but yes, if it did then it should have... so if there is a bug there it'd be great if you could find it | 14:31 |
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| mgariepy | i'll try to replicate and see what i can find. | 14:31 |
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| evrardjp | I realize we have still the documentation on read the docs, shouldn't we bring that down, to make sure we avoid issues of people going to the wrong pages? | 14:45 |
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| odyssey4me | evrardjp do we? palendae was meant to kill that account | 15:02 |
| odyssey4me | nothing is publishing there so it definitely needs to be destroyed | 15:03 |
| evrardjp | indeed | 15:04 |
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| evrardjp | what's missing in default sphinx pages is a keyboard shortcut for next page/previous page | 15:26 |
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| mattt | so i put nova-compute into a container to test something (AIO), i can ping instances from the neutron-agents container but cannot ssh in :( | 15:38 |
| mattt | anyone got any suggestions ? | 15:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible: Update neutron service handler to restart only enabled services https://review.openstack.org/248557 | 15:41 |
| evrardjp | mattt: security groups, iptables, routing and switching | 15:42 |
| evrardjp | my prefered order | 15:42 |
| mattt | evrardjp: def. not security groups | 15:43 |
| evrardjp | oh so you have your instances encapsulated inside something running on lxc? | 15:44 |
| evrardjp | mtu? | 15:44 |
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| evrardjp | no loggs I'm trying to stab in the dark here :p | 15:45 |
| evrardjp | -g | 15:45 |
| mattt | evrardjp: could be mtu! i tried fiddling w/ neutron's mtu setting but that didn't help :P | 15:46 |
| evrardjp | nope you'll need to check the complete cycle | 15:46 |
| evrardjp | I have a review pending for that | 15:46 |
| evrardjp | I stopped it to move it into IRR | 15:47 |
| evrardjp | want me to find the link? | 15:47 |
| mattt | that's alright i can dig it up | 15:47 |
| mattt | i usually bug Apsu to solve these issues but i think he's out giving thanks today :) | 15:47 |
| evrardjp | :) | 15:49 |
| evrardjp | or he's preparing for black friday | 15:50 |
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| odyssey4me | I think that it's fair to say that we're missing a fair contingent of our community due to Thanksgiving. Shall we cancel the meeting for today? cloudnull, mattt, andymccr, d34dh0r53, hughsaunders, b3rnard0, palendae, Sam-I-Am, odyssey4me, serverascode, rromans, erikmwilson, mancdaz, dolphm, _shaps_, BjoernT, claco, echiu, dstanek, jwagner, ayoung, prometheanfire, evrardjp, arbrandes, mhayden, scarlisle, luckyinva, ntt, javeriak | 16:00 |
| mattt | odyssey4me: i would think so! | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | mmm | 16:01 |
| andymccr | odyssey4me: unless somebody has something specific to discuss i'd say so yeah | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | I was waiting for the meeting, but do you think we should exceptionally reschedule or wait for next week? | 16:01 |
| evrardjp | the IRR backport is a decision to take, but it can wait, IMO | 16:02 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp what would you like to chat about? we can have a prelim chat now in the channel, but we're missing a fair contingent | 16:02 |
| evrardjp | I'd be happy to know more about the outcomes of the previous' week documentation | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | previous week's discussion on documentation* | 16:03 |
| mattt | evrardjp: bleh, was being an idiot, it works fine | 16:03 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp nothing at this point, we're still looking for input | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | mattt :) | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | feedback about new members of community? like centos? | 16:03 |
| evrardjp | the last point was a free one: what do you think of this? file:///home/jean-philippe/openstack/openstack-ansible-specs/doc/build/html/specs/mitaka/policy-files-distribution.html | 16:04 |
| evrardjp | woops | 16:04 |
| odyssey4me | hahaha | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | no more centos feedback just yet - it seems that we have several interested parties | 16:05 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp how do you feel about leading that work? | 16:05 |
| evrardjp | I cannot right now | 16:05 |
| hughsaunders | haha | 16:05 |
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| evrardjp | I was mentionning this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249227/ | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp I've reviewed it. :) | 16:06 |
| evrardjp | I know, but you're not the only one on this chan :p | 16:06 |
| odyssey4me | hmm, I have a challenge - I want a task to inspect the deployment hosts's disks (easy as they're part of the setup facts), then determine whether one of the following two pre-requisites are met | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | either the primary disk is 80GB or more | 16:08 |
| odyssey4me | or there's a secondary disk of 80GB or more | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | df ? | 16:08 |
| evrardjp | :p | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | haha, I can do it in shell - but I wanted to try and do it better | 16:09 |
| odyssey4me | I guess it may be something like | 16:10 |
| odyssey4me | if ansible_devices[0].size >= "80.00 GB" then awesome | 16:10 |
| evrardjp | you could loop over ansible_devices | 16:11 |
| evrardjp | but wouldn't it be better to check partition size instead? | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | perhaps, but I'm happy to keep it simple for now | 16:12 |
| odyssey4me | right now the bootstrap process only checks disk size | 16:12 |
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| odyssey4me | and the second disk gets repartitioned anyway | 16:13 |
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| odyssey4me | ok, so perhaps I should ask how best to check the size of the largest disk, excluding the first? | 16:13 |
| evrardjp | why not creating a lvm across everything you can find, and then use the loop thingy you mentionned? | 16:13 |
| odyssey4me | ie the equivalent of lsblk -nrdo NAME,TYPE,RO,SIZE | egrep 'd[b-z]+ disk [^1]' | sort -rn -k 4 | head -n 1 | awk '{print $1} | 16:14 |
| evrardjp | I didn't test, but I understand the gist, yes ok. | 16:14 |
| odyssey4me | because we don't want to take over all the disks either | 16:14 |
| evrardjp | let me check in the filters | 16:15 |
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| odyssey4me | here's an example from the setup module: http://pastebin.com/0YVD6JfH | 16:16 |
| odyssey4me | we'll want to exclude anything that has 'removable' > 0 | 16:17 |
| evrardjp | omg xen | 16:18 |
| evrardjp | you don't have choice, I think | 16:19 |
| evrardjp | either write your own filter, or do with the shell module | 16:19 |
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| evrardjp | I'd be happy to know how you did it, if you didn't write your own filter | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | no, in fact, I'd be happty to know how, whatever the way of doing it :D | 16:20 |
| hughsaunders | evrardjp: thanks for policy distribution spec, have reviewed | 16:20 |
| evrardjp | thanks hughsaunders | 16:21 |
| odyssey4me | hmm, I think I'll go with shell for now to keep it simple - can always iterate later | 16:21 |
| evrardjp | odyssey4me: could you loop over all ansible_devices, get each size, and use a max filter? | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | it was a bad idea, forget it :p | 16:22 |
| odyssey4me | evrardjp can I then retrieve the device name based on the max value as a key? | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | nope | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | or | 16:22 |
| evrardjp | It's a bad idea anyway | 16:23 |
| evrardjp | I'd use shell it would have been done by now :p | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | maybe you can use shell to set a fact: largest_disk | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | yep, no worries - I just wondered if someone could think of a way offhand | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | and then use that anywhere else | 16:25 |
| odyssey4me | that's what I'm doing | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | ok | 16:25 |
| evrardjp | I'm off for today then | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | or almost | 16:26 |
| evrardjp | bye! | 16:26 |
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| odyssey4me | cheers evrardjp ! | 16:31 |
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| odyssey4me | hughsaunders how do I address the first ansible_device in jinja assuming http://pastebin.com/0YVD6JfH ? | 17:01 |
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| cloudnull | happy day of thanks and giving everybody :) | 17:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible-security: Adding benefits faq + config docs https://review.openstack.org/248181 | 17:52 |
| odyssey4me | o/ cloudnull | 17:52 |
| odyssey4me | I hope that you have eaten well :p | 17:52 |
| cloudnull | freanch toast for breakfast. | 17:52 |
| cloudnull | many drinks and then turkey later on | 17:53 |
| cloudnull | its the making of a great day | 17:53 |
| cloudnull | how goes it ? | 17:53 |
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| odyssey4me | not too bad - working through mhayden's bootstrap-aio patch... reworking some bits | 17:56 |
| odyssey4me | could do with a review on https://review.openstack.org/249887 in the meantime to help us when on hpcloud :/ | 17:56 |
| odyssey4me | I'm working that into the bootstrap-aio role too | 17:56 |
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| cloudnull | odyssey4me: on https://review.openstack.org/249887 have those changes been implemented in https://review.openstack.org/249887 ? cant we make the change once in the ansible bootstrap and get that through for master? | 18:02 |
| odyssey4me | you've linked the same review twice cloudnull - but if you mean are the changes in https://review.openstack.org/249887 in https://review.openstack.org/239525 then the answer is - not yet - I'm busy doing that while revising the second patch which will still take more time | 18:09 |
| cloudnull | ah yes those | 18:09 |
| odyssey4me | if we want more merges in master/liberty, then we need https://review.openstack.org/249887 in now while major's patch is in review, which will still take some time as it's a far bigger review | 18:10 |
| cloudnull | my issue is i dont see why? | 18:10 |
| odyssey4me | major's patch needs quite a bit of work | 18:10 |
| cloudnull | we're creating drift especially if thats the way we want to go | 18:10 |
| odyssey4me | it doesn't work, so I'm fixing it | 18:10 |
| cloudnull | it did work | 18:10 |
| odyssey4me | and I'm adding the updates | 18:10 |
| odyssey4me | and it also tries too hard anyway - it's going beyond its mandate | 18:10 |
| cloudnull | up until the point it was moved into the test dir | 18:11 |
| cloudnull | trying hard or not, it did the right things | 18:11 |
| odyssey4me | it's trying to do both the job of the bootstrap and the gate bits... it must not | 18:11 |
| odyssey4me | it also doesn't need to configure anything in uder_variables | 18:11 |
| odyssey4me | trying to do all that has made it more complex than it needs to be | 18:12 |
| cloudnull | why not? potentially this will let us remove most of the scripts we're carrying | 18:12 |
| cloudnull | that only you and i maintain | 18:12 |
| odyssey4me | just trust me, I will revise it and it will both work and be simple | 18:12 |
| cloudnull | i trust you , i just hate seeing us do a thing twice because we're bound to miss changes | 18:13 |
| odyssey4me | yep - I'm doing this update because I understand the purpose of the bootstrap, and I also understand the changes I've made to it | 18:13 |
| odyssey4me | unfortunately I can see that there have been misunderstandings here | 18:14 |
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| odyssey4me | originally I had planned to submit them as fixes afterwards... but as it stands this doesn't meet the needs that we have of it | 18:15 |
| cloudnull | the rework patch from mhayden? and how? | 18:16 |
| odyssey4me | it's a little too much to explain, but basically it's not a focused role - it's supposed to just bootstrap a host, and it's doing much more than that | 18:16 |
| odyssey4me | as a result, it's complex | 18:16 |
| odyssey4me | and messy | 18:17 |
| cloudnull | i disagree . the role bootstraps the host for testing and its complex because its reimplmenting the script parts in pure ansible. however, while a complext role its far more understandable than what we currently have | 18:18 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull just give me a chance to get this done and you'll see | 18:18 |
| cloudnull | the library is far more complex | 18:18 |
| odyssey4me | it will be much simpler to follow, and will do away with all the nonsense | 18:19 |
| cloudnull | then i say do that and not the rest of the changes in the script parts if it will be removed soon. | 18:19 |
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| cloudnull | specifically https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249887/10/scripts/scripts-library.sh -- if the intent is to only use a sparce file then remove all of the conditional extra logic | 18:20 |
| cloudnull | no deployer is using any of that | 18:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible: Implement tunable Horizon/Apache processes/threads overrides https://review.openstack.org/249997 | 18:21 |
| cloudnull | nor will they. | 18:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible: Implement new Liberty default for Neutron rpc_workers https://review.openstack.org/249990 | 18:21 |
| odyssey4me | the ability to set a data disk device to consume has actually been asked for by the Aus devs | 18:22 |
| cloudnull | when ? | 18:22 |
| odyssey4me | in ansible that logic is almost nothing, so it's far less complex anyway | 18:23 |
| cloudnull | and its not like theyll use it especially if we change it all in short order | 18:23 |
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| odyssey4me | well, letting that patch through will get our gating working now | 18:24 |
| odyssey4me | but yeah, I should have this revision done by next week and we can move it through quickly | 18:24 |
| odyssey4me | it'll just delay the gate checks by 2-3 working days | 18:25 |
| cloudnull | does that change really fix the "There are not enough hosts available." issue? | 18:25 |
| odyssey4me | yes, absolutely | 18:25 |
| cloudnull | i mean it moves the swap and sparce files to /openstack | 18:25 |
| cloudnull | from /op | 18:25 |
| odyssey4me | the issue is that the host doesn't have enough disk space | 18:25 |
| odyssey4me | yes it does, but it also repartitions the second disk into /openstack (40%) and /var/lib/lxc (60%) | 18:26 |
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| cloudnull | wouldnt the simpler fix be to simply mount /var/lib/nova on a sparce file faking out the available storage? | 18:27 |
| odyssey4me | it then also partitions /var/lib/nova/instances onto a loopback so the scheduler thinks that there is a ton of disk space | 18:27 |
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| odyssey4me | yep, except that all the loopbacks are on the root disk, and thus disk space is still an issue | 18:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible: Update some steps in quickstart-aio.rst https://review.openstack.org/250333 | 18:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-ansible: Removing the references of the elk stack https://review.openstack.org/250331 | 18:27 |
| cloudnull | im only looking at this like, we're changing the gate process and introducing a lot of new logic for an interim fix | 18:28 |
| odyssey4me | the same logic will be in the updated thing | 18:28 |
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| cloudnull | except it will be in the updated thing. | 18:28 |
| odyssey4me | which will merge in 3-5 days | 18:28 |
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| odyssey4me | we can have it tomorrow with two votes | 18:29 |
| odyssey4me | on the bash script patch | 18:29 |
| cloudnull | i simply would like to advocate for the right change and i believe the direction of mhayden patch is better than what we've got and be more maintainable in future times | 18:32 |
| cloudnull | regardless of potential scope creep | 18:32 |
| cloudnull | we can all ways break out the role if need be | 18:32 |
| odyssey4me | sure, so I'll fix it up and it'll be up for review tomorrow | 18:34 |
| odyssey4me | assuming I get all the time I hope on it | 18:34 |
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| cloudnull | ok. | 18:35 |
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| cloudnull | so now we'll need one more on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/249887/ | 18:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Implement tunable heat api and engine worker overrides https://review.openstack.org/250519 | 18:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Implement tunable Horizon/Apache processes/threads overrides https://review.openstack.org/250520 | 18:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed openstack/openstack-ansible: Implement new Liberty default for Neutron rpc_workers https://review.openstack.org/250521 | 18:44 |
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