| cloudnull | svg: no there's not, i check the ml all the time for messages, however theres just not a lot of chatter on the ml. while there may be several deployers using the stack most of them are all here, and the active people involved in development / deployment are truly a small group so convos on the ml really haven't been a requirement while the group is sufficiently small. | 00:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Port basic installation guide https://review.openstack.org/189938 | 00:14 |
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| cloudnull | Sam-I-Am: looked good, all i added was the openstack theme to the docs. | 00:14 |
| cloudnull | +2 | 00:14 |
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| cloudnull | i'd say its good enough for government work and is a great start to coherent docs within the repo. | 00:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | cloudnull: yeah, i wondered about the theme | 00:34 |
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| cloudnull | its there now. | 01:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updated Juno for new dev work https://review.openstack.org/188975 | 02:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updated Juno for new dev work https://review.openstack.org/188975 | 02:39 |
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| sthapa | Hi All | 05:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andy McCrae proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Set default pass in aio scripts to be random https://review.openstack.org/190266 | 08:11 |
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| evrardjp | hi all | 09:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Javeria Khan proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Adding PLUMgrid plugin option to neutron https://review.openstack.org/188964 | 09:13 |
| odyssey4me | o/ :) | 09:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serge van Ginderachter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Ceph/RBD support https://review.openstack.org/181957 | 09:39 |
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| svg | Are there currently issues with some upstream repo's? e.g. E: Failed to fetch https://mirror.rackspace.com/mariadb/repo/5.5/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mariadb-5.5/mariadb-common_5.5.44+maria-1~trusty_all.deb HttpError404 | 10:13 |
| svg | .44 doesn exist there, .43 does | 10:14 |
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| odyssey4me | svg it may be in the middle of the upstream repo sync | 10:25 |
| svg | seems like i | 10:26 |
| svg | hm, how do I trigger Jenkins to re-check? | 10:27 |
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| meshok0 | Hi all. I have a question about load balancers (internal_lb_vip_address, external_lb_vip_address). Do I understand correctly that they are configured and managed by OSAD and I only need them to be connected to my mgmt and external networks? | 10:28 |
| odyssey4me | svg simply add a comment to the review with the word 'recheck' as the first word - if you take a look at the reviews in the list right now you'll notice that we do this quite often due to various issues in the gate that are externally related | 10:30 |
| svg | k, thx | 10:31 |
| odyssey4me | meshok0 if you implement haproxy on one of the hosts then it'll be configured - but this is not recommended, the haproxy playbook/role is provided primarily for dev/test purposes | 10:31 |
| odyssey4me | we recommend the use of a hardware load balancer as they generally perform better and are more reliable | 10:32 |
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| svg | I'm still confused on the difference internal/external | 10:33 |
| odyssey4me | meshok0 the all-in-one (AIO) build which we use for dev/test makes use of the haproxy playbook - you can refer to that for reference | 10:33 |
| svg | should the same endpoints be available on both? | 10:33 |
| odyssey4me | svg external would be the public LB address, whereas internal would be a private address - this allows you to make use of a private address on the back-end and a public address (perhaps a NATted address) publically | 10:33 |
| odyssey4me | the service catalogue will register the public address, not the private one - so a service list will show the right thing | 10:34 |
| meshok0 | so, for production, I have to configure my load balancers manually after I deploy openstack with OSAD, right? | 10:36 |
| svg | given everything is setup privately here, I don't expect openstack to be reacheable from the internetz | 10:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Andy McCrae proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Set permissions on user_secrets.yml to 0600 https://review.openstack.org/190570 | 10:37 |
| svg | could I set internal and external vip's to the same (internal address) and later on nat to it when the use case comes up? or would things break for that external access, if the external vip doesn't match the one natted? | 10:39 |
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| odyssey4me | meshok0 yes, OSAD currently has no playbooks or roles to automatically configure hardware load balancers | 11:09 |
| odyssey4me | svg yes, you could do that - you may have to manually recreate the service endpoints though - until we fix the keystone module to recreate the endpoints if they're not the same as expected... if we ever do :) | 11:10 |
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| meshok0 | odyssey4me, thanks for clarification! | 11:32 |
| odyssey4me | meshok0 no problem :) | 11:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Split environment file into component parts https://review.openstack.org/190220 | 11:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andy McCrae proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Set permissions on user_secrets.yml to 0600 https://review.openstack.org/190570 | 12:01 |
| cloudnull | Morning. | 12:16 |
| evrardjp | hello | 12:16 |
| cloudnull | How's it? | 12:17 |
| evrardjp | there are discussions about the LB addresses and networks | 12:17 |
| odyssey4me | o/ cloudnull doing alright, although getting a little frustrated at the increased failure frequency in the gate due to factors out of our control | 12:18 |
| cloudnull | Yea that's driving me crazy. | 12:18 |
| evrardjp | "in the gate due to factors out of our control"-> could someone explain that to me? | 12:19 |
| cloudnull | Evrardjp - the HP region b2/4 seems to hate us. | 12:19 |
| evrardjp | now I understand the "factors out of our control" | 12:20 |
| evrardjp | :) | 12:20 |
| evrardjp | Ok, so like I said on this chan earlier, I'm going to start deploying a new version of our cloud with OSAD soon... Should I start with master or Kilo branch? | 12:21 |
| evrardjp | it also depends on what you need as feedback... | 12:22 |
| evrardjp | for example, svg: your ceph integration is on master or kilo branch? | 12:23 |
| evrardjp | ok, I think I'll give master a go | 12:24 |
| cloudnull | If you're living on the edge master | 12:24 |
| cloudnull | Which is tracking liberty at this point. | 12:24 |
| cloudnull | If you want a stable experience kilo. | 12:24 |
| cloudnull | Playbook wise they're almost the same. | 12:25 |
| evrardjp | that's what I would have guessed | 12:25 |
| evrardjp | I'll try with kilo first then | 12:25 |
| cloudnull | Code bit wise kilo is a few days behind the stable branches. | 12:25 |
| cloudnull | Ceph bits are an active review so if you're looking to use them you'll have to cherry pick into youre local branch. | 12:26 |
| cloudnull | We also have an install guide which is pending gate but is a good source of information. | 12:27 |
| evrardjp | cloudnull: what do you mean an install guide? Something different than the rst and the rackspace docs? | 12:28 |
| cloudnull | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189938/ | 12:28 |
| cloudnull | Posted version of the rax docs geared at kilo/master | 12:29 |
| cloudnull | W/ out the rax-isms and more focused at what were doing upstream. | 12:29 |
| cloudnull | First pass but something to refer back to. | 12:29 |
| cloudnull | With these docs in place we'll be able to force doc updates per commit and cover some of the more I teresting upstream bits we're doing. | 12:30 |
| cloudnull | Not that you need them but figured I'd mention it. | 12:31 |
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| svg | evrardjp: My patch /review is on mmaster, but I also maintain it on kilo, both are on my github fork | 13:29 |
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| svg | evrardjp: https://github.com/srvg/os-ansible-deployment/tree/kilo-ceph | 13:33 |
| svg | beware, that kilo patch is based on the 11.0.1 tag, whic is what we deployed so far | 13:35 |
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| odyssey4me | svg evrardjp for testing it is better to grab the current 'kilo' branch, then cherry-pick any patches in review that you'd like included on top of it - that way you're not stuck at any particular level | 13:38 |
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| cloudnull | odyssey4me, or anyone else have we reached out to infra regarding the failures today ? | 14:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Port basic installation guide https://review.openstack.org/189938 | 14:18 |
| cloudnull | rereviewed because the build was hung in devstack-trusty-hpcloud-b4-3002563 | 14:18 |
| cloudnull | :( | 14:18 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull not to my knowledge, I'm trying to keep my focus on region-related work for now... but it would be nice if someone could try to identify patterns with these failures and to work with -infra to solve them as they're slowing reviews down massively | 14:19 |
| cloudnull | ok | 14:20 |
| mattt | i've tried to work out an hpcloud-b4 failure w/ infra before, didn't get very far unfortunately | 14:24 |
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| odyssey4me | cloudnull it does seem that the failures are exclusively on hpcloud, so perhaps we should just automatically fail the gate on hpcloud :p | 14:27 |
| cloudnull | sadly that may not be a terrible option if we cant better control it . | 14:28 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i wonder why the hp cloud stuff fails | 14:39 |
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| cloudnull | Sam-I-Am: you and i both | 15:05 |
| Sam-I-Am | go find monty :) | 15:05 |
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| palendae | Sam-I-Am: dang, did you drop the whole install guide in? | 15:32 |
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| odyssey4me | cloudnull interesting - I just got the same issue that always shows up in hpcloud-b4 - the failure to install memcache, but I got it in a cloud instance | 15:39 |
| mattt | nice! | 15:39 |
| odyssey4me | the cause appears to have been a stale apt cache | 15:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | palendae: once i split the 'rax' rpc and osad docs up, cloudnull converted the osad stuff to rst, and then i un-crufted the rst because our docbook theme sort of throws pandoc off | 15:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the uncrufting was all day yesterday, but i got it good enough for an initial merge that should be manageable | 15:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | next step is a bit more cleaning up, then we need to discuss minimal and recommended architectures, then i draw diagrams. | 15:41 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: so should we purge and then update the cache in the scripts to be sure its happier on the host? | 15:41 |
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| palendae | Sam-I-Am: Sweet! I'll try to go through it today, but doing the rpc-openstack stuff too | 15:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i'd put rpc docs reviews ahead of osad... the osad stuff is pretty solid at this point. | 15:43 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull memcache is the first container which gets an apt-get install run inside it, so I think the cache is stale but ansible/apt thinks that it's fresh | 15:43 |
| odyssey4me | so yeah, perhaps we should force an apt-get update task at the end of the container builds? | 15:43 |
| cloudnull | odyssey4me: let me go disect the base image, we'll see if its something that we can clean up there. | 15:43 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull thanks | 15:46 |
| sigmavirus24 | cloudnull: the key rotation in nova is the "Remove old key file(s) if found" right? | 15:55 |
| sigmavirus24 | New openssl security release https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20150611.txt | 15:56 |
| palendae | cloudnull, Sam-I-Am: Any thoughts about hosting the built osad docs? I was thinking maybe readthedocs, but there may be somewhere on openstack's infra we could use | 15:56 |
| cloudnull | sigmavirus24: yes | 15:58 |
| cloudnull | cloudnull, mattt, andymccr, d34dh0r53, hughsaunders, b3rnard0, palendae, Sam-I-Am, odyssey4me, serverascode, rromans, mancdaz, dolphm, _shaps_, BjoernT, claco, echiu, dstanek, jwagner - meeting time in a couple min | 15:58 |
| odyssey4me | palendae I think they get automatically hosted when you're in the openstack namespace | 15:58 |
| sigmavirus24 | cloudnull: that's simple enough :D | 15:58 |
| palendae | odyssey4me: Good deal | 15:59 |
| odyssey4me | not sure about stackforge though | 15:59 |
| cloudnull | yup find key rotate, profit | 15:59 |
| d34dh0r53 | the meeting, the meeting, what what the meeting | 15:59 |
| cloudnull | the meeting is coming | 15:59 |
| Sam-I-Am | palendae: i think we just need a job to build the docs and then host them in the repo | 16:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | palendae: or something like that | 16:01 |
| palendae | Yeah, I intended to set up a job but haven't gotten to it yet | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | me too | 16:01 |
| palendae | We have the script already, though I was trying to make the script not require root in Vancouver | 16:01 |
| palendae | And build in a venv | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | why do we use a makefile instead of tox? | 16:01 |
| palendae | Sphinx dropped it for me, only reason | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | ah | 16:02 |
| palendae | Should probably toxify it | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats how the other docs bits work | 16:02 |
| palendae | Yeah | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | probably need an rst linter job and a build job | 16:02 |
| palendae | Actually getting it in tox may remove the need for using our scripts-library | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can steal most of the bits from openstack-docs | 16:02 |
| palendae | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/tree/scripts/gate-check-docs.sh | 16:03 |
| palendae | the make command there treats warnings as errors | 16:03 |
| palendae | So I'm basically using the build as a linter | 16:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | mmmkay | 16:03 |
| palendae | But I did not investigate the main openstack docs stuff, so probably better to throw what I put in away and use their conventions | 16:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/tools | 16:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres the docs stuff | 16:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | and of course tox.ini up a dir | 16:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | most of that is overkill for what we do, but its a good starting point | 16:05 |
| palendae | Sure | 16:05 |
| palendae | I also need to get back on the dev docs BP and get more of those written | 16:05 |
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| gregdek | Well, hello! | 16:36 |
| odyssey4me | :) welcome gregdek | 16:36 |
| palendae | Oh, though gregdek was already in here | 16:36 |
| palendae | (this is Nolan btw, and I'll have an reply to your summit email by EOD hopefully) | 16:37 |
| sigmavirus24 | damnit palendae. more email. less stones | 16:37 |
| palendae | That's happening. Only stones-- is tomorrow | 16:37 |
| cloudnull | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189938/ needs further approval when someone gets a chance | 16:38 |
| palendae | cloudnull: was in process, should be ready soon | 16:39 |
| cloudnull | palendae: this spec was merged so i think we're good there. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173155/ | 16:40 |
| palendae | cloudnull: Yeah, just making sure I go over the scripty parts | 16:41 |
| cloudnull | ok. | 16:41 |
| cloudnull | palendae: is there any blockers into further implementation ? | 16:42 |
| cloudnull | anything that you need to make it go? | 16:42 |
| palendae | cloudnull: Of docs? Getting healthy again :p | 16:42 |
| cloudnull | #action palendae needs to get healthy again | 16:43 |
| palendae | I need to re-review what's in the list in the BP and get to writing the rest of the sections | 16:43 |
| cloudnull | ok | 16:43 |
| gregdek | palendae: I should have been. I just never actually, y'know, joined. | 16:43 |
| palendae | Since I haven't really touched it since early Summit at this point | 16:43 |
| gregdek | I don't spend nearly as much time on IRC as I used to. :) | 16:43 |
| palendae | gregdek: Probably a good thing | 16:43 |
| * gregdek lurks until someone pings me and then I get an email. YAY EMAIL. | 16:43 | |
| cloudnull | hahaha wrong channel | 16:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | back over here... | 17:01 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull yeah, I think two meetings with rotation each week | 17:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats how we do docs | 17:01 |
| odyssey4me | that way we don't all have to attend every meeting - but at least every two weeks we get to be involved | 17:01 |
| odyssey4me | that way we get more coverage | 17:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | one at 14 utc, one at 0030 utc | 17:02 |
| svg | ow | 17:03 |
| stevelle | I am -1 on rotating meetings. | 17:03 |
| Sam-I-Am | we cover the same agenda at both meetings | 17:03 |
| cloudnull | ok so lets try out the two meeting times . | 17:07 |
| cloudnull | we'll just have to get better at action times and seding those minutes to the ML | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Move haproxy vars to defaults https://review.openstack.org/190721 | 17:08 |
| cloudnull | who wants to chair the meeting @ 0030 UTC ? | 17:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | do we have any apac folks? | 17:10 |
| andymccr | i dont thinkso, i think an 00:30 utc meeting is a bit pointless at the moment? | 17:11 |
| odyssey4me | cloudnull I'd suggest finding times when a meeting room is available - then doing an ML request for feedback. | 17:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | well, 16:00 utc might work for the US and UK | 17:12 |
| palendae | Sam-I-Am: Our team has Australians, but they've not been too active in osad currently | 17:12 |
| andymccr | thats the current time of existing meetings | 17:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | what was wrong with 1600? | 17:14 |
| palendae | The problem with the current time didn't emerge til DST | 17:14 |
| palendae | UTC doesn't have it | 17:14 |
| palendae | But everyone else shifted | 17:14 |
| cloudnull | UTC is king | 17:14 |
| cloudnull | :) | 17:14 |
| stevelle | +1 | 17:14 |
| palendae | So, it was 11am EST, but now 12pm EDT | 17:14 |
| palendae | And London is on GMT (which is DST), not UTC | 17:15 |
| cloudnull | its a time that everyone can agree on and that happens at the same time all the time. | 17:15 |
| stevelle | palendae: do you even BST bro? | 17:15 |
| palendae | cloudnull: Except when everyone's in timezones that are affected by DST ;p | 17:15 |
| cloudnull | everyone shited UTC did not | 17:15 |
| palendae | Sure | 17:16 |
| cloudnull | *sifted | 17:16 |
| cloudnull | wow | 17:16 |
| palendae | Functionally that makes no difference | 17:16 |
| * palendae wishes Indiana hadn't gone to DST | 17:16 | |
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| * cloudnull Freudian slip | 17:16 | |
| cloudnull | so ... what time in UTC do we want to use if we're not going with multi-meetings? | 17:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: WIP: Add support for deploying Keystone with Fernet https://review.openstack.org/189998 | 17:20 |
| cloudnull | looks like we could do monday @ 14:00 or 15:00 UTC ? | 17:23 |
| palendae | Those times work for me | 17:24 |
| stevelle | 6 or 7am. nope | 17:24 |
| cloudnull | stevelle: that should be 8 , or 9 for you right ? | 17:27 |
| stevelle | GMT-8 winter. GMT-7 in summer | 17:27 |
| palendae | UTC* | 17:28 |
| palendae | GMT changes with DST | 17:28 |
| stevelle | summer is BST in my timezone db | 17:28 |
| cloudnull | UTC-8h == portland | 17:29 |
| cloudnull | http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/usa/portland-or | 17:29 |
| stevelle | I can make it to 7am sometimes. The 6am times just don't work | 17:30 |
| cloudnull | UTC-7h and UTC-8h so that should be 8 and 9. unless I'm being dense. | 17:30 |
| stevelle | 1400h -8 - 0600h | 17:31 |
| palendae | 14-7 = 7. 14-8 = 6 | 17:31 |
| palendae | 15 - 7 = 8, 15 - 8 = 7 | 17:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Port basic installation guide https://review.openstack.org/189938 | 17:31 |
| cloudnull | yup being dense... was doing math on current time. | 17:32 |
| palendae | Times are hard, right b3rnard0? | 17:32 |
| cloudnull | so stevelle does 15 work better? | 17:32 |
| cloudnull | also andymccr hughsaunders svg mattt does that work better for you guys ? | 17:32 |
| stevelle | cloudnull: works. I just wont always make it | 17:32 |
| andymccr | cloudnull: that should work well for europe/uk | 17:33 |
| andymccr | west coasters probably not so much | 17:33 |
| andymccr | timezones are hard :D | 17:33 |
| svg | for me, best times are off times, given I can't $cust to allow time for that, this means after 1900 CEST = 1700UTC in Summer or 1800UTC in winter | 17:37 |
| svg | *expect* | 17:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andy McCrae proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Allow protocol to be set per endpoint-type https://review.openstack.org/190736 | 17:45 |
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| b3rnard0 | palendae: ¿qué? | 17:53 |
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| cloudnull | sigmavirus24_awa: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+bug/1464372 when your around it would be great to get your opinion on it | 19:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1464372 in openstack-ansible "Environment variable setup does not work in container creation" [Undecided,New] | 19:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Cleaning up doc8 violations. https://review.openstack.org/190808 | 20:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Set permissions on user_secrets.yml to 0600 https://review.openstack.org/190570 | 20:39 |
| mattt | did we agree on a new meeting time ? | 20:40 |
| b3rnard0 | no, but my outlook finger is twitching | 20:46 |
| svg | s/openstack/opencoffin/ | 20:48 |
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