| Sam-I-Am | aight, its meat time | 00:01 |
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| cloudnull | prometheanfire: when you going to come pick him up and bring him to his new home ? | 00:02 |
| cloudnull | :) | 00:02 |
| cloudnull | Sam-I-Am: yum | 00:02 |
| cloudnull | and not the pkg manager. | 00:03 |
| prometheanfire | cloudnull: you know, eventually | 00:03 |
| prometheanfire | just ordered a ton of lawn stuff | 00:03 |
| prometheanfire | yay prime | 00:03 |
| cloudnull | prime is amazing. | 00:05 |
| prometheanfire | indeed | 00:05 |
| prometheanfire | even though I know they just mark up the cost for shipping things | 00:05 |
| cloudnull | this is absolutely true. but it makes me warm and fuzzy so i go on believing that its a deal of sorts. | 00:18 |
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| prometheanfire | yep | 01:32 |
| prometheanfire | same with amazon smile | 01:32 |
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| evrardjp | hello everyone | 07:27 |
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| svg | good morning all | 08:54 |
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| odyssey4me | morning! | 09:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Cleaning up doc8 violations https://review.openstack.org/187034 | 10:13 |
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| mattt | cloudnull: doh, just updated that review :P | 11:59 |
| mattt | cloudnull: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186740/ | 12:00 |
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| svg | mattt: when testing my ceph patch, on kilo, did you confirm cinder was working? | 12:58 |
| mattt | svg: yep | 13:03 |
| mattt | at least i thought so :) | 13:03 |
| svg | I just find out about a bug where that cinder_backend_rbd_inuse construct doesn't work in ansible 1.9 | 13:04 |
| svg | which means cinder_volume hosts don't get the config in /etc/ceph | 13:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updated repo server deps https://review.openstack.org/186740 | 13:42 |
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| cloudnull | prometheanfire: ansible -m shell -a "rm /root/.pip/links.d/*"; openstack-ansible setup-everything.yml --tags lock-down-pip-conf,lock-pip-files | 14:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Change external resources to https where possible https://review.openstack.org/185407 | 14:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: upgrades stall when installing pip packages with an external loadbalancer https://review.openstack.org/187217 | 14:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Moved all of group_vars into a variable file https://review.openstack.org/187102 | 15:38 |
| cloudnull | can we get a few more reviews on the following https://review.openstack.org/#/q/is:starred+status:open,n,z | 15:39 |
| svg | You guys must hate inventory vars | 15:47 |
| cloudnull | svg: cant encrypt them . | 15:48 |
| cloudnull | that is using ansible-vault. | 15:48 |
| svg | how not? | 15:49 |
| cloudnull | svg: we use dynamic inventory which is stored in a json if we were to use static inventory we could use ansible-vault on it however the dynamic inventory script runs before the value decrypt process happens and results in a unusable inventory. | 16:05 |
| cloudnull | http://paste.openstack.org/show/253199/ - | 16:05 |
| svg | b/c you parse static inventory vars *also* within the dynamic inv script | 16:07 |
| svg | which sounds a bit like an antipattern to me tbh | 16:07 |
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| svg | basicallly, most vars are becoming globals | 16:08 |
| cloudnull | if we add the vars to the inventory file it becomes unencryptable. | 16:08 |
| cloudnull | ie the openstack_inventoy.json | 16:08 |
| svg | that more of a cache file, specific to the inventory script | 16:10 |
| svg | there seems to be actually a mixup of using the different kind of vars | 16:11 |
| svg | the gloal vars files in de the deploy dir are passed to ansible as --extra-vars=@ | 16:11 |
| svg | but at the same time, they are also parsed by the inventory script | 16:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Fix for duplicate logs on an AIO https://review.openstack.org/185948 | 16:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Fix for duplicate logs on an AIO https://review.openstack.org/185676 | 16:35 |
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| cloudnull | svg: however we don't have another inventory source to pull from everything is written into the json file. It could kinda work if we have an inventory server to back the base inventory and a json file to cache from, but still the json file can not be encrypted and read using a dynamic inventory script. | 16:41 |
| cloudnull | the --ask-vault-pass runs after the inventory script execution | 16:42 |
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| cloudnull | so vault cant be used on dynamic inventory. | 16:43 |
| cloudnull | as for the inventory script, only items in openstack_user_confg.yml and items in /etc/openstack_deploy/conf.d are in the global inventory, but we may be able to merge all of the bits so that its more of a coherent set of vars, but my main concern with doing that in general is the inability to encrypt and securely store the data. | 16:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Add handler flushing to roles that need it https://review.openstack.org/185901 | 16:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Jimmy McCrory proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Validate checksum of rabbitmq-server package https://review.openstack.org/187253 | 16:54 |
| svg | cloudnull: that must be solveable | 16:57 |
| cloudnull | svg: I hope so . | 17:01 |
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| cloudnull | i've been looking into other storage processes | 17:01 |
| cloudnull | but nothing concrete so far. and i talked to the ansible people at the collaboration day about it a bunch | 17:02 |
| svg | I dont think there should be a need to such a cache file | 17:02 |
| svg | I need to better understand the dynamic inventory script first though | 17:02 |
| svg | 'inventory' is one of my pet peeves :) | 17:03 |
| svg | I'll keep this in mind | 17:03 |
| cloudnull | i want inventory to be better. i kinda hate the way it works when not using static inventory. | 17:07 |
| cloudnull | so if you have a ideas Im all ears. | 17:07 |
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| svg | what exactly do you mean by 'the way it works when not using static inventory'? | 17:14 |
| cloudnull | inventory has to be static or dynamic and when using dynamic inventory its stdout as json passed into the ansible-playbook command. | 17:17 |
| svg | it can be both, actually | 17:20 |
| cloudnull | yes for sure. | 17:20 |
| svg | but, ok, you just described ansible inventory basis, not sure what exacty you hate | 17:20 |
| cloudnull | i hate that there is not a provided ansible inventory storage system that I cant leverage that is not a static inventory file in a sudo ini format | 17:21 |
| svg | ah, ok | 17:21 |
| svg | well, yes | 17:21 |
| svg | I have been thinking way too many tome to start writing an alternative | 17:22 |
| cloudnull | something like couch db or similar that would allow me to store and distribute inventory would be great. | 17:22 |
| svg | in case of osad, do you think a distributed inventory is important? | 17:22 |
| cloudnull | when working with regions yes. or huge environments that multiple engineers may be doing tasks at the same time on different parts of the cluster. | 17:23 |
| cloudnull | they may not be working from the same deployment host. | 17:23 |
| cloudnull | and need access to inventory. | 17:23 |
| cloudnull | but global regions is the main sticking point. | 17:24 |
| cloudnull | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:cloudnull+status:open,n,z - needs reviews | 17:29 |
| svg | That's an interesting link for me | 17:32 |
| svg | how the osad inventory is structured now, there is little room to integrate it in a larger environment, I think | 17:34 |
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| svg | ideally, osad should deliver the baseline in a way users can overrule it from their inventory | 17:35 |
| svg | now, whether you do it statically or dynamically, to use the inventory concept where group inheritance is a key thing, one needs to start with haviing the different groups (tree) well structured | 17:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nolan Brubaker proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Add an extension section to the developer docs. https://review.openstack.org/183857 | 17:55 |
| svg | cloudnull: do you have an idea how that tree structure looks like now? -> http://sprunge.us/ijaP | 17:55 |
| svg | with the nodes shown: http://sprunge.us/RVKG | 17:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Nolan Brubaker proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Add an extension section to the developer docs. https://review.openstack.org/183857 | 17:56 |
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| svg | lots of hosts that are repeated, that should be avoided | 17:56 |
| palendae | ^^ typo fixings | 17:57 |
| cloudnull | svg: the issue is that a lot of those hosts wouldn't't be repeated if the infrastructure was large enough to warrant to the use of more hosts. | 18:03 |
| cloudnull | ie the network_hosts and identity_hosts could/should be seperated out. | 18:04 |
| cloudnull | same with all of the shared infra. | 18:04 |
| cloudnull | i know that this is generally a lack of documentation on how things could be done. | 18:04 |
| palendae | Doesn't YAML have ways to allowing references to other variables? That could be used to cut down repetition | 18:04 |
| cloudnull | which we're "fixing" kinda | 18:04 |
| cloudnull | palendae: yes. | 18:04 |
| palendae | Granted, the anchor system in YAML is also kind of obscure | 18:04 |
| cloudnull | Sam-I-Am: doc'd that in the latest example files https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/blob/master/etc/openstack_deploy/openstack_user_config.yml.example#L28-L32 | 18:05 |
| svg | cloudnull: now you are talking about the metal hosts | 18:05 |
| cloudnull | yes. which will create new containers | 18:05 |
| * Sam-I-Am perks up | 18:06 | |
| cloudnull | we have a minimal 3 node infra, but if the deployer wanted to make the environment huge and didnt want to put most of the components on a single host they could | 18:06 |
| svg | I'm talking about a neutron container being set as child of both e.g neutron_agents_container and network_all | 18:08 |
| svg | whilst you could make neutron_agents_container a child of network_all | 18:08 |
| svg | as an example | 18:08 |
| cloudnull | fair enough. | 18:08 |
| cloudnull | svg: this is something that has come up a few times https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ansible/+spec/dynamic-inventory-lib | 18:12 |
| cloudnull | essentially making our use of inventory smarter. | 18:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Grinberg proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Do not install the extraroute plugin for heat https://review.openstack.org/187035 | 18:12 |
| svg | sound slike some lib that should not be specific for this project | 18:13 |
| svg | that sounds like the basis of my idea | 18:15 |
| palendae | Well, dynamic inventory is an ansible concept | 18:16 |
| palendae | You can have whatever you want generate it | 18:16 |
| svg | obviously | 18:18 |
| palendae | So far I don't think we've seen an actual example of another data source we'd want to use. Obviously LDAP or RDBMSs exist, but we've not encountered a time where we'd use it yet | 18:19 |
| svg | ack++ | 18:20 |
| cloudnull | ^=1 | 18:20 |
| cloudnull | *+ | 18:20 |
| palendae | IMO, one of those examples would go a long way to informing how we'd design it | 18:21 |
| * svg needs to write up the design he has in his head | 18:21 | |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Moved all of group_vars into a variable file https://review.openstack.org/187102 | 18:24 |
| cloudnull | +9000 svg: typie typie make it better =) | 18:25 |
| palendae | ^ would love to see it! Just cause we don't have one doesn't mean it's can't exist | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: create temporary variable for the upgrade process https://review.openstack.org/187217 | 18:40 |
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| Bjoern__ | Hey guys, can anyone look why https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144814/ did not make it into our kilo branch ? | 19:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: create temporary variable for the upgrade process https://review.openstack.org/187217 | 19:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: create temporary variable for the upgrade process https://review.openstack.org/187284 | 19:05 |
| prometheanfire | palendae: think I did a wierdness with my original review | 19:06 |
| prometheanfire | hit the rebase button instead of the cherrypick button | 19:06 |
| palendae | BjoernT: Looks like we're tagged at 1.1.1, and this wasn't added til 1.2.0 | 19:09 |
| BjoernT | ok | 19:09 |
| BjoernT | thanks, where is that now defined in kilo osad? | 19:10 |
| palendae | In the kilo branch, playbooks/defaults/repo_pacakges/openstack_clients.yml | 19:11 |
| prometheanfire | palendae: did I mess that review up? | 19:11 |
| palendae | Not sure about RCs | 19:11 |
| palendae | prometheanfire: Looking | 19:12 |
| prometheanfire | palendae: I think the rebase hitting got rid of the workflow | 19:12 |
| palendae | Ah, looks like cloudnull put it back | 19:13 |
| palendae | The cherry pick review looks strange, no topic and no cherry-picked from message | 19:13 |
| * prometheanfire shrugs | 19:13 | |
| prometheanfire | first time I've done the cherry-pick | 19:14 |
| stevelle | -x adds the pick msg | 19:14 |
| prometheanfire | I used the UI | 19:14 |
| prometheanfire | probably my problem | 19:14 |
| * stevelle shrugs | 19:14 | |
| prometheanfire | you doing the backport of 127? | 19:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Change external resources to https where possible https://review.openstack.org/187294 | 19:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Change external resources to https where possible https://review.openstack.org/187294 | 19:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthew Thode proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: create temporary variable for the upgrade process https://review.openstack.org/187284 | 19:31 |
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| cloudnull | all the needfuls that need doing: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/starredby:cloudnull+status:open,n,z | 22:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Set the log directory accordingly https://review.openstack.org/187368 | 22:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Kevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updated repo server deps https://review.openstack.org/187369 | 22:43 |
| sigmavirus24 | cloudnull: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184665/ wasn't I running into the same problem with include/when etc. with the proxy variables review? | 22:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Set the log directory accordingly https://review.openstack.org/187074 | 22:49 |
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| cloudnull | sigmavirus24: that was a macro with the "with_items" statement | 22:53 |
| sigmavirus24 | Ah, right | 22:53 |
| cloudnull | so that you can iterate over a list and execute when some condition is met | 22:53 |
| * sigmavirus24 couldn't remember the magic construction | 22:53 | |
| * cloudnull had to look at irc logs | 22:53 | |
| cloudnull | :) | 22:53 |
| * sigmavirus24 doesn't keep logs | 22:54 | |
| javeriak | sigmavirus24, cloudnull: I tested it on a lab deployment, and when/include works for me | 22:54 |
| sigmavirus24 | javeriak: yep. removed my -1 | 22:54 |
| javeriak | sigmavirus24: yes just saw, thanks | 22:55 |
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| cloudnull | sigmavirus24: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-ansible/%23openstack-ansible.2015-05-27.log.html | 22:55 |
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| javeriak | guys, question, does the Juno branch support pulling in ansible galaxy roles? | 22:56 |
| cloudnull | javeriak: yes | 22:57 |
| cloudnull | https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/blob/juno/scripts/bootstrap-ansible.sh#L73-L78 | 22:57 |
| cloudnull | all thats required is the creation of the ansible-role-requirements.yml file within the os-ansible-deployment directory. | 22:57 |
| javeriak | cloudnull: ah yes, i see it | 22:58 |
| cloudnull | galaxy requirement files are structured like this http://docs.ansible.com/galaxy.html#advanced-control-over-role-requirements-files | 22:58 |
| cloudnull | which can point at an actual galaxy role, something in github, a tarball etc. | 22:59 |
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| cloudnull | the successerator is winning ! | 23:16 |
| cloudnull | :p | 23:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Validate checksum of rabbitmq-server package https://review.openstack.org/187253 | 23:22 |
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