Wednesday, 2015-04-08

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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Fix bug in playbooks/library/neutron  https://review.openstack.org/17004600:58
* prometheanfire should see if we deoply barbican01:01
openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Update keystone middleware in glance for Kilo  https://review.openstack.org/17069501:03
Sam-I-Amhopefully rebasing that beast will trigger some goodness01:04
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Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: i think i need to de-computer for a bit01:09
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Sam-I-Ambrain is overheating01:09
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prometheanfireSam-I-Am: kk, talk to you tomorrow01:09
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Sam-I-Amyes, we shall continue this fun/mess/whatever01:10
Sam-I-Amif you're going to nerd on it for a while, things i was going to do next - a) figure out how neutron is setting mtus on the network node. it doesnt seem obvious. b) make sure the configs are all sane, including on neutron-server (in case there's a db thing)01:11
cloudnullevenings01:12
prometheanfirecloudnull: ohai01:16
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prometheanfirecloudnull: I hope I'll stop saying that :P01:17
cloudnullonly "gather facts" now.01:18
cloudnull:)01:18
prometheanfireheh01:18
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Bump requirements in preparation for kilo  https://review.openstack.org/16684902:54
openstackgerritKevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updated ansible to use the latest stable release  https://review.openstack.org/17146104:03
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Restart apache2 after local_settings.py is changed  https://review.openstack.org/17113205:02
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openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Fix bug in playbooks/library/neutron  https://review.openstack.org/17148907:02
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openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Fix bug in playbooks/library/neutron  https://review.openstack.org/17149407:06
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openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updated ansible to use the latest stable release  https://review.openstack.org/17146107:30
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openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Correctly deply neutron_metering_agent_check  https://review.openstack.org/17157711:31
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updated ansible to use the latest stable release  https://review.openstack.org/17146111:47
openstackgerritMatt Thompson proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Correctly deploy neutron_metering_agent_check  https://review.openstack.org/17157712:04
svganyone here with ceph experience?12:22
odyssey4meit's been a while, but several of us do have experience deploying ceph12:26
odyssey4mewhy svg, what's up?12:26
svgtrying to make my rpc poc work with ceph (manually for now)12:27
svgmost works, cinder, glance12:27
svgexcept when deploying something from glnce to cinder12:27
odyssey4mehmm, how do you mean?12:27
odyssey4meas in deploying an image to a volume and botting from it?12:28
odyssey4me*booting12:28
svgyes, hold on12:28
odyssey4meis the image you're using in raw format?12:28
svgThe relevant error in the glance log seems to be:12:28
svg  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/glance_store/location.py", line 75, in get_location_from_uri12:28
svg    raise exceptions.UnknownScheme(scheme=pieces.scheme)12:28
svgUnknownScheme: None12:29
svgthe image is raw yes, is't an ubuntu image I downlowded from their cloud.. url12:30
odyssey4mehmm, I'm not entirely sure those are raw - they may be qcow212:31
odyssey4metry doing an exlicit conversion of the image to raw with qemu-img and uploading it to glance12:31
odyssey4methen step through the process manually - try creating a volume from the image with the cinder cli12:31
odyssey4methen boot an instance from that volume12:32
odyssey4mebut the error you're showing seems to indicate that perhaps glance/cinder aren't aware of the location url... so maybe I'm off base12:32
odyssey4mewhich version of os-ansible-deployment are you using?12:32
odyssey4meversion/branch12:33
svgv10.1.212:33
svghm, seems you are right they are qcow12:36
odyssey4mesvg not sure if all the bugs related to automated conversion are sorted yet - I know that used to be a pain and it's useful to know that rbd needs raw images12:37
svgyup, thx, I continue testing...12:40
odyssey4mesvg another reason for rbd not working as a backing store for glance would be: https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/blob/10.1.2/rpc_deployment/roles/glance_common/templates/glance-api.conf#L62-L6712:41
odyssey4meand no rbd section in the conf file - not sure if you added those12:41
svgack, I noticed that, but not sure it's what juno allows or not12:42
svgyes, for now I'm manually editing the files to test ceph12:43
svgodyssey4me: perhaps that template doesn't mention rbd b/c rpc doesn't support that out of the box?12:49
odyssey4mesvg that is exactly why, but the driver will be there so there's no reason why a config change won't enable it12:50
odyssey4meit likely just needs glance.store.rbd.Store added to the list, but I'm not sure12:51
odyssey4mebesides the obvious addition of the rbd backend configuration too12:52
svgglance by itself works, I can upload images etc12:52
odyssey4mesure, but is it actually using rbd as a back-end to store the images?12:52
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svgodyssey4me: yes13:01
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openstackgerritHugh Saunders proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Update tempest config for current master  https://review.openstack.org/17114213:09
svgodyssey4me: works now, after converting to raw (it was indeed qcow, stupid me didnt check that :))13:12
svgthx for th ehint13:12
odyssey4mesvg no problem :)13:12
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Fix bug in playbooks/library/neutron  https://review.openstack.org/17149413:35
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sigmavirus24cloudnull: replied to your -1 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167475/814:49
cloudnullsigmavirus24: answered tyvm14:50
sigmavirus24no worries14:50
mattti was wondering what that comment was all about :)14:51
cloudnullnothing to see here. just me being stupid.14:56
cloudnull:)14:56
matttkinda like what i did w/ your lxc patch this morning :P15:01
sigmavirus24Hey, no one judge15:05
sigmavirus24We always get a case of the "skip over critical portion of patch"-s and it's okay15:06
Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: moo.15:07
prometheanfireSam-I-Am: larry the cow?15:08
Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: cows are trendy15:08
Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: did you pull an all nighter and get the mtu stuff working?15:09
prometheanfireno15:09
Sam-I-Amdamn15:09
prometheanfireI left for home and drank15:09
prometheanfireit's neutron15:09
Sam-I-Amthe proper way is neutron -> stuck -> home -> drink -> neutron -> progress15:09
sigmavirus24"progress"15:10
prometheanfireI'm on step 5/615:10
sigmavirus24prometheanfire: I'm on step 6/515:10
sigmavirus24(the step where you go work on glance instead)15:10
prometheanfiregood for you :P15:10
svgachievement unlocked *rpcstack *ceph *vxlans *deployingimage *ping2world15:12
cloudnull+900015:12
d34dh0r53It's over 900015:13
sigmavirus24svg is this week's winner15:13
sigmavirus24tell them what they win d34dh0r5315:13
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d34dh0r53ummm.....maintainer on several OSAD plays?15:14
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prometheanfireSam-I-Am: well, qrouter interface disapeared15:21
sigmavirus24prometheanfire: working as intended15:21
* sigmavirus24 is kidding, he has no clue how neutron even works15:21
prometheanfireno one does15:22
Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: think i deleted the router15:23
prometheanfireah15:24
prometheanfireyep15:24
prometheanfirein history15:24
prometheanfireso how am I suposed to access :P15:25
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prometheanfireSam-I-Am: well, gonna tear it down15:38
Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: why?15:40
prometheanfireSam-I-Am: I've messed with enough things to make a mess15:41
Sam-I-Amoh, cant just reboot it?15:41
Sam-I-Amthat should reset the interfaces to 150015:41
Sam-I-Amprometheanfire: did you get a hold of ijw?15:41
prometheanfireno15:41
prometheanfirehe's very hit or miss15:42
prometheanfiregonna rebuild containers15:42
Sam-I-Amdid you look through the code to see what, if anything, hits the tap and bridge on the compute node?15:42
Sam-I-Amone would think its the same code as everywher eelse15:42
cloudnullsvg: would you be interested creating a spec and commit the work you did for ceph client work ?15:42
prometheanfirehave you looked at the neutron15:43
prometheanfirenothing is as you would thing15:43
prometheanfirenothing is as you would think15:43
svgcloudnull: yup, certainly, only so far I did this POC with manually updating the ceph config stuff15:46
svgI still need to work out the details on how t integrate this in oad15:46
svgcloudnull: you were preparing some doc that explains the concept?15:47
cloudnullsvg, so i started writing the doc and then i saw a squirrel :)15:49
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cloudnullhowever d34dh0r53 put this together. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170558/15:50
cloudnullwhich extends inventory environment15:50
cloudnullbut the basic concept is captured here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170558/7/etc/openstack_deploy/env.d/extra_container.yml.example15:50
cloudnullwhich will add container component types that map to containers on physical boxes.15:51
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svgcloudnull: iin case of ceph, no additional containers are needed, only doing extra configuration on existing ones16:13
svgextra tasks are installing some apt package, doing some libirt configuration stuff, and have a modified config for glance and cinder16:14
svgso my question was, vor those extra things, should i model that as a separate component - and if so how does that map to the ennvironment? - or do I just add the needed ceph specific roles within the playbook that targets already the needed os components16:15
svgI also need to add certain repo's for ceph, not sure how to do that16:16
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: updated dev requirements to allow for linting python  https://review.openstack.org/17103517:04
cloudnullsvg sorry was eating and then was being meeting'ed .17:18
svgI hope both were tastefull17:18
cloudnullso you could create a ceph client role that takes care of the additional repos, pacakges, and some of the libvirt config.17:18
cloudnullas for the modified configs that should be able to be added to the service config17:19
svgok, so not working on a separate component17:20
cloudnullI think i would create a ceph client playbook that invokes the ceph client role which does the ceph specific things ie packages, repos. . .17:21
cloudnulland then add the rbd config to the various roles .17:21
cloudnull*various os_* roles17:21
svgcloudnull: so just using the existing os groups17:21
cloudnullyea, if at all possible.17:22
svgsure, will be the easiest17:22
svgI looked at how different apt repositories get deployed, but didn't get it totally already17:22
svgbtw, one of the things I might need to look at is how to make the whole setup self hosted, as in no internet access17:23
svgWe have a private apt server where we can host mirrors etc; but I noticed some repo's are added in a way that makes it hard to change (hardcoded components, etc)17:24
cloudnulli think adding the rbd config when some criteria is met within the existing os roles will be simple enough . as for the apt repo bits have a look at how the galera repo does it https://github.com/stackforge/os-ansible-deployment/blob/master/playbooks/roles/galera_server/tasks/galera_pre_install.yml#L58-L6817:24
cloudnullwe've tried to go about making sure all of the apt repos / external resources we are using, in master, are able to be overridden to something else. which should help out in the case of a self hosted scenario .17:25
cloudnullbut there are a lot of moving parts, which can make that difficult.17:26
cloudnullits better than it was, but still not great.17:26
svgyeah, most are, but sometimes it's just the base url, things like components and distribution are sometimes hardcoded17:26
cloudnullyup.17:26
svgsometimes it's ppa specific17:26
cloudnullalso that17:26
cloudnull:)17:26
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svgand sometimes it's just downloading a deb (rabbitmq? forgot whcih one)17:27
svgmight be interesting to streamline all that stuff17:27
cloudnullyea rabbitmq is downloaded .17:27
cloudnullso we have most of that in http://mirror.rackspace.com/rackspaceprivatecloud/17:27
svgalso, things like git repo's, but afaics those are overruleable, though there are many of them :)17:27
cloudnullwhich can be rsync'd to a private repo17:28
cloudnullgroup name rackspaceprivatecloud17:28
svgah, there's an rsync server on that? nce17:28
svgnice17:28
cloudnullwhich is a mirror of http://rpc-repo.rackspace.com/ which also has an rsync server. groupname openstack_mirror17:29
cloudnullso most of that, which includes rabbit and maria can be sync'd away and the base url changed in one action.17:30
cloudnullbut that doesn't fix git and ppa17:30
cloudnullhowever if you sync the repo we have a cache of all of the git repos available in the rpcgit/ directory.17:30
svgwell, let' hopre rpc get's choosen at my $cust, then i might get to work on all that :)17:31
cloudnullwhich one could standup a regular git server on top of .17:31
svghttp://rpc-repo.rackspace.com/rpcgit/ looks empty17:31
* cloudnull starts hoping17:31
cloudnull:)17:31
svgI finished my poc today, alle features we needed work (ceph, vxlan)17:32
svgin about a week17:32
svgI have 2 coworkers still working on their mirantis/fuel setup17:32
cloudnullhttp://rpc-repo.rackspace.com/rpcgit/  is not browsable but the repos are there. IE # git clone http://rpc-repo.rackspace.com/rpcgit/keystone should work17:32
cloudnullthats awesome !17:33
svgmost time was lost because 1/ I started on hosts with no internet access and 2/ my test image was qcow and ceph needs RAW...17:34
svgeveryting ansible related worked flawless17:34
cloudnullnice! what did you do your build on? 10.x, master ?17:34
svg10.1.217:35
svgwhich is what we would use if it gets choosen17:35
svgstable releases and all, you know17:35
cloudnullfor sure.17:35
cloudnullwell thats awesome !17:35
svgYeah, it just works (tm) :)17:36
svgand given I never did anyting with openstack before, that says a lot about that17:36
cloudnullsweet !17:37
Apsusvg: Awesome! Great to hear it, lol. Don't mind our shock, naturally we expected this outcome. ;)17:37
svghaha :)17:38
cloudnullApsu to be fair "new to openstack" general means tears17:38
svgit;s the linux of the clouds :)17:38
ApsuDays Since Someone Last Cried: Permanently etched in as "0"17:38
cloudnulllololol17:38
svgbtw, am I correct that neutron HA is someteing new in juno?17:39
ApsuYesish. Also depends on what you mean. There's l3ha and DVR. They're newish in Juno, but that sort of stuff has been baking a long time.17:39
Apsu(And the cake isn't entirely done yet imo)17:40
cloudnullkinda. in juno neutron created l3ha which almost works17:40
cloudnulland they created dvr, which again, almost works17:40
ApsuFor some value of works.17:40
cloudnullbut dvr does not work with l3ha17:40
svgguy, you could you Japanese words here :)17:40
Apsulol17:40
cloudnullso in our setup we're using a very simple l3 ha failover tool that att created.17:41
svgI was told before juno, neutron wa active/passive, and now can be active/active17:41
svgbut I could have misunderstood that17:41
cloudnullsvg thats teh l3 ha functionality that was added that almost works17:41
ApsuWe used to have a daemon I wrote to listen for agent heartbeats off rabbitmq and manage network/router failovers, which yes, was active/passive. l3 HA is still active/passive failover in principle.17:42
cloudnullwe run active-active using a distributed scheduler.17:42
ApsuDVR is attempting to do active/active by distributing routers across nodes.17:42
ApsuWith neutron routers, only "direct return" is truly active/active17:42
ApsuThey're trying to accomplish parity with the nova-net multi_host model17:42
ApsuIt's like the 4th or 5th attempt at it in Neutron, and is currently OVS specific. And also doesn't entirely work.17:43
ApsuWe've chosen to stick with LinuxBridge for the time being and make use of a distributed router scheduler and failover script to achieve better fault tolerance and provide failover capability for HA17:44
ApsuBut each individual router is still on a single node (agent container, technically) at a time.17:44
ApsuSo there isn't any compute-host affinity for direct return routing.17:44
Apsuinstance network traffic is all east-west between compute hosts and network hosts, and all external traffic is north-south between network hosts and the external network(s)17:45
cloudnullto accomplish our active/active setup all l3 routers are scheduled to different node using the baked in neutron distributed scheduler and the l3 ha tool runs to make sure that if there are down routers they're are they are rescheduled to one of the active nodes.17:47
ApsuWell, *neutron routed* instance network traffic [...], that is. Direct instance <-> instance on the same neutron network just goes east-west directly between compute hosts.17:47
ApsuThe distributed scheduler makes it so we aren't bunching up routers all on the same l3-agent, so it's better utilization and fault tolerance, for sure17:50
ApsuBut DVR is the only real way to try to achieve "active/active" in the direct return routing sense.17:50
ApsuWell, or just use nova-net!17:51
Apsu:D17:51
cloudnullnova-net is my safe word17:51
cloudnull:)17:51
prometheanfireso, neutron mtu-ness17:52
cloudnullyou mean neutron mtu is a mess ?17:53
prometheanfireseems to go work on the neutron side, but only the tap interface on nova hosts are not getting set17:53
prometheanfirealso, yes17:53
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svgwhat's that DVR thing?18:12
ApsuDistributed Virtual Router18:15
Apsusvg: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/DVR18:15
svgsounds funky18:15
cloudnullfunky is not the word i'd use18:15
cloudnullSam-I-Am ^18:15
cloudnullSam-I-Am i loves neutron + dvr18:15
cloudnull:)18:15
Sam-I-Amcloudnull: i do what?18:16
cloudnullyou do18:16
cloudnulladmit it18:16
* Sam-I-Am hangs head18:16
prometheanfirehi18:18
* svg tried readoig the wiki on DVR, but quickly got motivated to read someting else18:18
svg*reading*18:18
cloudnullsquirrel !18:19
Sam-I-Amsvg: the wiki is useless18:20
Sam-I-Amsvg: you want https://github.com/ionosphere80/openstack-networking-guide/blob/master/scenario-dvr/scenario-dvr.md18:21
svgOMGPONIES18:21
ApsuSam-I-Am: I like how this document has "basic" in the title.18:22
Sam-I-Amalso, wont work with osad due to ovs requirement18:22
ApsuI'm excited to see the advanced version!18:23
Sam-I-AmApsu: its not lying. thats as basic as it gets.18:23
svgOSAD18:25
svgok, btw, if there is one thing that s**s, IMHO, it's the name of this project18:25
svgOS-ANSIBLE-DEPLOYMENT18:25
d34dh0r53OHAPPY?18:25
svgik peereadin that as Operating System18:26
* palendae blames cloudnulll18:26
svgurgh18:26
palendaesvg: Yeah18:26
svgI keep readidng that as Operating System18:26
palendaeWell, we can't rename OpenStack18:26
svgat $cust, we just talk about RPC18:26
Sam-I-Amcloudnull: it needs a more cloudnully name like openstack ansibilificationerator18:27
svgOpenstack-on-Cows18:27
d34dh0r53openstack-installerator18:27
Sam-I-Amd34dh0r53: this18:27
prometheanfireSam-I-Am: don't want to become chef, kthnx18:28
palendaesvg: Yeah. We're trying to make a distinction, ourselves18:28
svgHow?18:28
palendaeRPC = Rackspace Private Cloud product. os-a-d = open source project18:29
prometheanfireRPC - remote proceedure call18:29
palendaehttps://github.com/rcbops/rpc-extras is the repo we're working on that extends os-a-d with rackspace-specific things18:29
svgbetter just find something Toally New :)18:30
* svg votes on Openstack-on-Cows 18:31
svgOOC18:31
svgTotal silence means approval.18:34
openstackgerritDavid Wilde proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Nova Kilofication Work  https://review.openstack.org/17095218:36
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openstackgerritKevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updated the repo scripts  https://review.openstack.org/17177719:00
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sigmavirus24svg: as someone living in Wisconsin, OpenStack on Cows sounds like a sustainable solution19:18
sigmavirus24stevelle: ^19:18
svgthat makes 2 votes19:18
svgor three19:18
sigmavirus24Am I two people?19:18
svgyou were trefrring to stevelle, I~ assume he would vote up too :)19:22
svgsorry, lousy typist here19:22
stevellecan't decide: reply to cows along themes of "organic and grass fed" or "tucows"19:22
svgcows refers to the ansible unofficial mascotte19:24
sigmavirus24http://logs.openstack.org/75/167475/8/check/os-ansible-deployment-dsvm-check-commit/8e726f9/console.html#_2015-04-08_19_04_04_080 is a nice failure for an AIO19:28
palendaed34dh0r53: Just got done doing an AIO build of your nova work and see it passed gate19:34
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Flake8 update - openstack-branch-grabber.py  https://review.openstack.org/17104219:42
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d34dh0r53palendae: yep, thanks for looking at it19:58
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openstackgerritKevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Flake8 update - library/glance  https://review.openstack.org/17179620:04
openstackgerritKevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Flake8 update - library/neutron  https://review.openstack.org/17179920:08
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sigmavirus24So hpcloud-b4 is failing to install memcached again: http://logs.openstack.org/75/167475/8/check/os-ansible-deployment-dsvm-check-commit/57c6ea5/console.html#_2015-04-08_20_07_22_77621:39
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openstackgerritIan Cordasco proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Genericize how we update SSL settings for Apache  https://review.openstack.org/17183822:17
sigmavirus24stevelle: ^22:19
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openstackgerritKevin Carter proposed stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Updated the repo scripts  https://review.openstack.org/17177722:27
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stevellesigmavirus24_awa: in case you see this, horizon_ssl_cipher_suite is unused23:05
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/os-ansible-deployment: Update keystone middleware in glance for Kilo  https://review.openstack.org/17069523:58

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