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| dtantsur | #startmeeting ansible-sig | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Apr 14 15:01:37 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtantsur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ansible-sig)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ansible_sig' | 15:01 |
| dtantsur | heya! anyone up to talk about some ansiblezz? | 15:01 |
| dtantsur | noonedeadpunk, mordred, mnaser, odyssey4me, gtema and whoever I forgot | 15:02 |
| noonedeadpunk | o/ | 15:02 |
| odyssey4me | o/ | 15:02 |
| dtantsur | I don't have any agenda to go over, so if nobody has any topics, we can exchange nods and move on with our lives | 15:03 |
| dtantsur | but I think mordred wanted to do some bike shedding? | 15:03 |
| odyssey4me | I wonder if zbr may have something too. | 15:03 |
| odyssey4me | Oh goody, we do love a good bike shed. | 15:04 |
| dtantsur | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/713056/3/meta/action_groups.yml | 15:04 |
| dtantsur | there are some naming questions. the one about ironic/ironic_node made me think hard | 15:04 |
| dtantsur | well, first question: ironic vs baremetal | 15:05 |
| dtantsur | do we need to rename now? | 15:05 |
| dtantsur | or maybe we keep the os_ prefix for the ironic bits until we sort them out? (this has a risk of never getting done) | 15:06 |
| mordred | dtantsur: well - I don't think we necessarily need either ironic or baremetal in the name | 15:06 |
| mordred | oh wait - no, I'm stupid | 15:06 |
| dtantsur | if I recall correctly, 'ironic' creates a node/ports, while ironic_node can update/set maintenance/power/deploy.... | 15:07 |
| dtantsur | (or the other way around) | 15:07 |
| mordred | dtantsur: we can always do another rename in the future - but with the addition of the openstack.cloud prefix, I think now might be a good opportunity | 15:07 |
| mordred | dtantsur: I think the other way around | 15:07 |
| dtantsur | I think it was counter-intuitive :) lemme check | 15:08 |
| mordred | yup - you're right | 15:08 |
| mordred | we'll let's DEFINITELY change that | 15:08 |
| zbr | o/ | 15:09 |
| dtantsur | I think os_ironic -> ironic_node, while os_ironic_node -> mmmmmm | 15:09 |
| mordred | how about ironic -> baremetal_node and ironic_node -> baremetal_node_action | 15:09 |
| dtantsur | yeah, like that | 15:09 |
| dtantsur | I mean, I don't like it either, but that seems to be the least evil | 15:09 |
| odyssey4me | does it make any sense at all to combine them instead? | 15:09 |
| * odyssey4me throws a cat among the pigeons | 15:10 | |
| mordred | now - ironic is a bit special ... we COULD make a second collection for it - openstack.ironic | 15:10 |
| mordred | (I feel strongly that the other modules should all be in one collection - but the ironic stuff has a pretty radically different usage vector more frequently than not) | 15:10 |
| dtantsur | odyssey4me: it does, except that nobody probably has time for that | 15:11 |
| jrosser | for the renaming i was quite unsure about what to do with the 'single word' modules, those somehow feel suboptimal | 15:11 |
| jrosser | particularly when someone is looking for "wheres the module to do ....." | 15:11 |
| mordred | yeah - sshnaidm and I had some back and forth today on the review | 15:12 |
| dtantsur | jrosser: which example do you have in mind? | 15:12 |
| mordred | listener and member are two examples where they definitely need new names :) | 15:12 |
| jrosser | zone, pool, memeber | 15:12 |
| mordred | and pool | 15:12 |
| dtantsur | right | 15:13 |
| mordred | yeah. zone ... zone should be dns_zone | 15:13 |
| mordred | good point | 15:13 |
| jrosser | having some kind of namespace like that is ++ for usability | 15:13 |
| dtantsur | agreed | 15:13 |
| jrosser | dns_<blah> this stuff is all for designate.... and so on | 15:13 |
| dtantsur | baremetal_ for ironic | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | yeah | 15:14 |
| mordred | well - at least when the term is generic | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | are we in agreement re renaming ironic stuffs? | 15:14 |
| mordred | we don't need compute_server :) | 15:14 |
| odyssey4me | heh, and there I was wondering whether it was gonna create me a solaris zone | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | #agreed os_ironic -> baremetal_node, os_ironic_node -> baremetal_node_action (and iterate from that) | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | ^^^? | 15:14 |
| mordred | what do y'all think about federation_identity_provider - would identity_provider be ok - or should we keep federation in there | 15:14 |
| mordred | dtantsur: ++ | 15:14 |
| jrosser | federation_idp maybe | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | do we have or anticipate any other identity providers? | 15:15 |
| jrosser | idp is a well understood term there | 15:15 |
| * dtantsur didn't know idp | 15:15 | |
| mordred | jrosser: oh - that's a good point | 15:15 |
| mordred | dtantsur: well - for folks setting up federation, idp will make sense | 15:15 |
| dtantsur | who doesn't like a good tla? :) | 15:15 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, federation_* would be good for idp, mapping, etc | 15:15 |
| odyssey4me | oh, mapping is not exclusive to federation :/ | 15:16 |
| odyssey4me | I don't think. Lemme check. | 15:16 |
| mordred | odyssey4me: it looked like it was a federation mapping | 15:16 |
| odyssey4me | Oh, it is exclusive to federation. Never mind. | 15:16 |
| mordred | dtantsur: should ironic_inspect be baremetal_inspect? | 15:16 |
| dtantsur | yeah, fine with me | 15:17 |
| mordred | kk | 15:17 |
| mordred | and - should we do lb_ instead of loadbalancer_ ? | 15:17 |
| odyssey4me | while IDP is well known in that space, identity_provider is more explicit. Could we not have the long one with a short alias? | 15:17 |
| odyssey4me | and do the same with lb_ vs loadbalancer_ | 15:17 |
| odyssey4me | or maybe do the short one with a long alias | 15:17 |
| dtantsur | mmm, neat | 15:18 |
| mordred | odyssey4me: I believe we can | 15:18 |
| mordred | dtantsur: we have port - which I was arguing could just stay that way, since it's a basic thing - but I think ironic also has ports -s hould we call port network_port? or is port good enough for the normal case here? | 15:19 |
| dtantsur | I'm fine with 'port' vs 'baremetal_port' | 15:20 |
| dtantsur | this is the way it is with OSC | 15:21 |
| dtantsur | actually, keeping an eye on OSC may be a good idea | 15:21 |
| mordred | ++ | 15:22 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, I'll bet a lot of bike shedding has happened in OSC/SDK and we can ride the bike after it's been fixed. | 15:23 |
| dtantsur | indeed | 15:23 |
| dtantsur | any other aspects we should discuss explicitly? | 15:23 |
| mordred | yeah. I've collected these in the review - I'll make a pass through osc | 15:23 |
| mordred | then push up an actual full rename patch | 15:23 |
| dtantsur | cool | 15:25 |
| dtantsur | anything else? | 15:25 |
| dtantsur | okay, thanks folks! | 15:27 |
| dtantsur | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Ansible SIG | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ansible-sig" | 15:27 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Apr 14 15:27:34 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ansible_sig/2020/ansible_sig.2020-04-14-15.01.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ansible_sig/2020/ansible_sig.2020-04-14-15.01.txt | 15:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ansible_sig/2020/ansible_sig.2020-04-14-15.01.log.html | 15:27 |
| odyssey4me | thanks dtantsur ! | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Duc Truong proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Add properties for os_project https://review.opendev.org/715266 | 17:13 |
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