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| sshnaidm | gundalow, hi, do you have any updates about https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/66790 ? | 14:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Deal with collection build modifying tree https://review.opendev.org/711033 | 14:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Fix license metadata https://review.opendev.org/711035 | 14:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Clean up minor build quibbles https://review.opendev.org/711036 | 14:57 |
| sshnaidm | anybody available for Openstack ansible modules meeting? | 15:00 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 15:01 |
| sshnaidm | #startmeeting ansible-sig | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 3 15:01:48 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sshnaidm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ansible-sig)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ansible_sig' | 15:01 |
| sshnaidm | hi dtantsur | 15:02 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 15:02 |
| dtantsur | let's ping moar people, I guess? | 15:02 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, cloudnull mnaser and anybody interested, welcome to the meeting | 15:02 |
| dtantsur | I've spotted a wild mordred around recently | 15:02 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, yeah, feel free to add them :) | 15:02 |
| sshnaidm | mordred exactly sent a few patches | 15:03 |
| sshnaidm | I don't have a specific agenda for today, please feel free to discuss any topics | 15:04 |
| noonedeadpunk | o/ | 15:04 |
| mordred | I'm working on updating the guidlines patch | 15:04 |
| dtantsur | maybe a status update on the release? | 15:04 |
| mordred | so I'll have that up shortly after this meeting | 15:04 |
| mordred | that's a great idea | 15:04 |
| mordred | so - there's two pieces: | 15:04 |
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| mordred | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/710048/ <-- this is a TC resolution asserting that this SIG is responsible for the openstack namespace in galaxy | 15:05 |
| dtantsur | nice | 15:06 |
| mordred | once that's in, I'm going to suggest that we have the infra team manage an account that can upload the collections on our behalf (since there is an established secrets management there) | 15:06 |
| mordred | and once that account is in place, we'll get the secret put in zuul and be off to the races | 15:06 |
| mordred | I'm also working on uploading pre-release manually for now | 15:06 |
| mordred | which is where the latest three patches came from :) | 15:07 |
| sshnaidm | mordred++ | 15:07 |
| mordred | all in all - I think we're getting somewhere! :) | 15:07 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, do you know if we have ansible roles for collections from Paul? | 15:07 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, yeah, that's great, thank you! | 15:07 |
| mordred | sshnaidm: no - I'll follow up with him again today | 15:07 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, ack | 15:08 |
| sshnaidm | maybe then I'll submit at least building role | 15:08 |
| mordred | ++ | 15:08 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, any news about session in ptg? | 15:08 |
| mordred | sshnaidm: note we have tox -ebuild now | 15:08 |
| mordred | yes - I requested a day at the PTG for SDK/OSC/ansible-openstack | 15:09 |
| mordred | so we'll have a table somewhere and can split the time across those projects as we see fit | 15:09 |
| mordred | another topic we should come to agreement on: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/710641/ - python version support | 15:10 |
| sshnaidm | yeah, so we are going to limit support for py3 only, right? | 15:11 |
| mordred | I think we should not pretend to support python2 with the collection - and dtantsur made a good point that we're only testing >=3.6 - so maybe we start with 3.6 as the min supported version? | 15:11 |
| mordred | yeah | 15:11 |
| dtantsur | ++ | 15:11 |
| sshnaidm | agree | 15:11 |
| mordred | cool. I'll update that patch to say 3.6 | 15:11 |
| sshnaidm | what are possible options for those still using py2 in their machines? | 15:12 |
| sshnaidm | just trying to think what can be broken.. | 15:12 |
| mordred | to not upgrade to more recent ansible | 15:12 |
| sshnaidm | to stay with 2.9, yeah | 15:12 |
| mordred | yeah - I mean - if they're running that recent of ansible, they must have the ability to install things that are not just in 2.7 only distros | 15:13 |
| mordred | and since these are openstack api modules, they don't actually need to run them _on_ the same machines as openstack | 15:13 |
| mordred | so even if they're running an old cloud on 2.7 and want to use latest ansible - they can install openstacksdk on the same machien they have ansible on and still talk to it | 15:13 |
| mordred | maybe it's worth point that out in the README | 15:13 |
| sshnaidm | yeah, definitely | 15:14 |
| sshnaidm | something like "For py2 users" section | 15:14 |
| dtantsur | with just the word "C'MON!!!" | 15:14 |
| mordred | dtantsur: :) | 15:15 |
| sshnaidm | and also mention there we support 3.6 only | 15:15 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, I know people using centos6, this is really "cmon" :) | 15:15 |
| dtantsur | heh | 15:15 |
| dtantsur | I'm pretty sure somebody out there is using centos5 because hey it works! | 15:15 |
| sshnaidm | well, starting from 5 it really worked well :) | 15:16 |
| sshnaidm | great, so anything else you want to talk about? | 15:17 |
| mordred | no - I think that's great. thanks for your work getting the repo set up sshnaidm - it's been easy to write a billion patches this past week :) | 15:17 |
| sshnaidm | just a reminder, please take a look on patches https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/ansible-collections-openstack | 15:18 |
| * mordred hopes everyone is enjoying the reviewing | 15:18 | |
| sshnaidm | mordred, sure, thank you for this great work as well | 15:18 |
| * sshnaidm is looking forward to start using these collections in tripleo | 15:18 | |
| sshnaidm | and starting moving modules written in tripleo to these collection as well | 15:19 |
| mordred | sshnaidm: ++ | 15:19 |
| dtantsur | mordred++ sshnaidm++ | 15:19 |
| mordred | sshnaidm: I also look forward to that | 15:19 |
| sshnaidm | great, so I think we're good for today | 15:19 |
| mordred | sshnaidm: I believe paul has some work in ansible-network already for doing speculative galaxy servers like we have for speculative containers | 15:20 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, speculative..? | 15:20 |
| mordred | so I *think* we should be able to build depends-on jobs for tripleo that will just set up a galaxy url and the new collection version will be present | 15:20 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, oh, yeah, I know what you mean | 15:20 |
| mordred | I think it'll be really cool once it's all together | 15:21 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, yep, I liked this idea, job that sets up galaxy and child job that uses it, really cool | 15:21 |
| mordred | ++ | 15:21 |
| sshnaidm | yeah, that would be great | 15:21 |
| sshnaidm | also good test for publishing | 15:21 |
| mordred | ++ | 15:22 |
| sshnaidm | ok, any other topics to talk? | 15:22 |
| sshnaidm | great, thanks all for participation today! | 15:23 |
| sshnaidm | #endmeeting | 15:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 3 15:23:29 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ansible_sig/2020/ansible_sig.2020-03-03-15.01.html | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ansible_sig/2020/ansible_sig.2020-03-03-15.01.txt | 15:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ansible_sig/2020/ansible_sig.2020-03-03-15.01.log.html | 15:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Add Openstack guidelines spec from Ansible https://review.opendev.org/704558 | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Test with and assert support for python3 https://review.opendev.org/710641 | 15:29 |
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| mordred | dtantsur, sshnaidm: ^^ there's updates to the docs import patch and the python3 support patch | 16:15 |
| dtantsur | nice | 16:16 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, thanks, looking | 16:16 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, do we want to continue to name modules with os_ prefix? | 16:34 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, I think we talked that new modules can be without it maybe | 16:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Just use shutil.rmtree in build.py https://review.opendev.org/710640 | 16:38 |
| mordred | sshnaidm: I would love to de-prefix them | 16:58 |
| mordred | sshnaidm: I've been confused on what the status is on mapping them to the old name as part of the bundling/re-import into ansible/ansible | 16:58 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, when I spoke about that with ansible team, I was strongly advised not to rename modules until next release at least.. | 16:59 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, because it could break something in ansible side | 16:59 |
| mordred | oh - I mean | 16:59 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, although maybe we could use symlinks to new names, didn't test it | 17:00 |
| mordred | so what I think we should do is have whatever the ansible-side thing is always be named os_ whatever - but have the thing in the collection be named openstack.cloud.server ... right? | 17:00 |
| mordred | I think we just need to learn more about whatever the backwards compat import mechanism actually looks like | 17:00 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, yeah, if they exist.. | 17:00 |
| mordred | ah | 17:01 |
| mordred | it seems it's only got support for indicating a collection namespace that it has migrated to | 17:01 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, it's mostly was required for documentation on ansible side, iirc | 17:03 |
| sshnaidm | so that links there will point to modules in OS collection | 17:04 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, like that https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/66789 | 17:05 |
| mordred | sshnaidm: yah. but didn't gundalow say something about $something that was going to make things install some collections when you install ansible for backwards compat? | 17:06 |
| mordred | and that that thing was going to do $something so that os_server: would continue to work in playbooks without the prefix? | 17:06 |
| sshnaidm | gundalow maybe knows more about backward compatibility mechanisms for moved collections if they exist already | 17:06 |
| mordred | it's that mechanism that I mostly don't want to screw up | 17:07 |
| sshnaidm | mordred, yes, and as I understood from #ansible it's not there yet | 17:07 |
| mordred | ah | 17:07 |
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