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| odyssey4me | hey folks, I see the ansible SIG meeting isn't in http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/ - does anyone know how to get it there? | 09:23 |
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| gundalow | odyssey4me: maybe ask in #openstack-infra ? | 10:34 |
| gundalow | OpenStack people, have you thought about if all the OpenStack Ansible modules & plugins should go into their own standalone Collection? Therefore you can release independently to what the main "Community dumping ground Collection" is doing? | 10:35 |
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| odyssey4me | gundalow: that's pretty much what was discussed yesterday in the meeting as far as I can see... well, that's what it looks like to me | 11:56 |
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| odyssey4me | I can't seem to find where the source data for https://governance.openstack.org/sigs/ is, but that points at an etherpad - that data should probably move into https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ansible_SIG | 12:23 |
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| mnaser | odyssey4me: https://github.com/openstack/governance-sigs/blob/master/sigs.yaml#L17 :) | 14:11 |
| gundalow | Ah, I didn't see history. Reading scroll back from the meeting. Feel free to ping me during meetings or at any other point. | 14:14 |
| gundalow | I'm happy to be your point of contact in Ansible for Collections stuff (It's my job to find homes and move all community content that's currently in ansible/ansible) | 14:14 |
| gundalow | 1) So it sounds like `lib/ansible/modules/cloud/openstack/` (and dependencies) would be moved into a *single Collection*, is this correct? QQ: What would the Collection be called `openstack.WHAT`? | 14:14 |
| gundalow | 2) The Ansible Galaxy Team are responsible for handing out namespaces. I don't understand the OpenStack specifics of Official vs SIG vs $other, though I'd assume `openstack.` to be the namespace that is used by official projects and this team. Request via https://github.com/ansible/galaxy/issues/new/choose | 14:14 |
| gundalow | 3) Licensing (IANAL). We've been telling other groups that they should generally match ansible/ansible's license (GPLv3+) (note that module_utils maybe BSD) | 14:14 |
| gundalow | 4) Once the Collection is up and running, you need to add a `migrated_to: namespace.collection` entry into `ansible/ansible`'s `.github/BOTMETA.yml`. That will be used (future work) to direct existing docs.ansible.com/ module links to Galaxy. The *plan* (i.e. not fully signed off yet) is at that point you can `git rm` the migrated content from ansible/ansible:devel. It's up to you what you want to do with PRs (close or | 14:14 |
| gundalow | migrate them for people). | 14:14 |
| gundalow | 5) One of the things that isn't fully agreed is what is done to help bug fixes to `ansible/ansible:stable-2.9`. I'm not sure how much backporting normally goes on for OpenStack modules | 14:14 |
| gundalow | 6) I'm OK with zero OpenStack changes being made to ansible/ansible:devel from this point forward (ie changes go directly into your Collection). Though consider about backports (#5 above) | 14:14 |
| gundalow | 7) FYI pabelanger already has a load of Zuul jobs to automate build & release of Collections which you may wish to steal <- mordred sshnaidm|afk | 14:14 |
| gundalow | Feel free to ping me again during meetings (or any other time) if there are things I can help with | 14:14 |
| odyssey4me | mnaser: great, thanks - evrardjp also pinged me privately... I'll propose a patch to point at the wiki, but later we can point to a document repository at some stage, which would be better | 14:38 |
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| dtantsur | gundalow: thanks, this is helpful! | 14:40 |
| gundalow | My pleasure | 14:41 |
| gundalow | Update on 5: Ansible Engineering expect bug fixes to `ansible/ansible:stable-2.9` to be direct PRs (rather than `git cherry-pick -x`) | 14:42 |
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| dtantsur | fair enough | 15:20 |
| sshnaidm | gundalow, thanks for updates, added to etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-ansible-modules | 15:24 |
| sshnaidm | gundalow, we meet tomorrow 4.00 PM UTC in #openstack-sdks, you're welcome to join | 15:24 |
| gundalow | sshnaidm: excellent, is there an ics calendar file? | 15:40 |
| odyssey4me | gundalow: working on it :) | 15:40 |
| sshnaidm | gundalow, mm.. | 15:40 |
| sshnaidm | odyssey4me, do you create one? | 15:41 |
| odyssey4me | sshnaidm: https://review.opendev.org/697278 should do it, assuming the details are right | 15:41 |
| odyssey4me | argh, I'll have to see what's wrong with it | 15:41 |
| sshnaidm | odyssey4me, not sure it's "Ansible SIG" meeting though.. | 15:42 |
| odyssey4me | sshnaidm: aha, ok - I was wondering about that | 15:42 |
| odyssey4me | do we have a SIG meeting then? | 15:42 |
| sshnaidm | odyssey4me, I think they happen as usual in Fri on sig channel | 15:42 |
| * odyssey4me clearly missed the memo, or forgot | 15:43 | |
| sshnaidm | odyssey4me, and usually they don't happen | 15:43 |
| odyssey4me | mnaser cloudnull - as chairs, perhaps you can provide some guidance as to when the meeting is supposed to be, so that I can do https://review.opendev.org/697278 the right way :) | 15:45 |
| odyssey4me | sshnaidm: if I understand this correctly, the meeting tomorrow is then some sort of initiative instead - is it held in #openstack-sdks because of the broader audience? | 15:46 |
| sshnaidm | odyssey4me, yeah, and it's dedicated to openstack ansible modules specifically | 15:47 |
| sshnaidm | odyssey4me, we can discuss it tomorrow as well if need | 15:47 |
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| dtantsur | odyssey4me, sshnaidm, it's the slot of the API SIG office hour | 15:55 |
| dtantsur | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#API_Special_Interest_Group_office_hours | 15:56 |
| sshnaidm | dtantsur, so we hijack it | 15:56 |
| dtantsur | gundalow: ics there ^^^ | 15:56 |
| dtantsur | sshnaidm: at least for the near future - yes | 15:56 |
| sshnaidm | oh, great, we have ics | 15:56 |
| dtantsur | while we're solving the generic questions | 15:56 |
| dtantsur | when we settle down and start tackling the details, we'll probably just have ad-hoc conversations here | 15:57 |
| dtantsur | instead | 15:57 |
| sshnaidm | yeah, we'll see | 15:57 |
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| odyssey4me | okie dokey, thanks folks :) | 16:05 |
| gundalow | dtantsur: perfect, thank you. Hum I have a conflict then, though please do ping me and I can half watch | 16:16 |
| dtantsur | cool | 16:16 |
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