Sunday, 2016-10-23

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mrmartino/11:22
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ruriryan\o/11:23
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totunelhello!!!11:23
jungleboyjHello.11:23
Aku.11:23
mbozhenkoHi all!11:23
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ALQmoin moin11:23
csatari-vmHi Upstream University!11:23
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bastafidliHola11:23
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winggundamth_hi all11:23
kmArc_:-)11:23
Akuyay chat on the big screen.11:23
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xmarutomassive ddos11:24
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csatari-vmAsk for songs here :)11:24
jungleboyjpatrickeast: (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻11:24
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patrickeastjungleboyj: ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)11:25
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bastafidlitesting11:28
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Markus_Hello I|m here11:28
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jungleboyjdiablo_rojo: Welcome!11:41
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wiggin15Can anyone post the link to the class etherpad please?11:59
creanhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-training-barcelona12:00
wiggin15thanks12:00
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vkmchey everyone at openstack university!12:05
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kimhindartinteract sounds scary12:08
mrmartinhey \o/12:08
jjunginteract sounds cool :-)12:08
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jungleboyjkimhindart: I think we can all agree not to bite!12:08
martial_team up time12:08
nssvenWho's interested in documentation and translation parts?12:10
MenthosDistributed OpenStack, anyone?12:11
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ntr0pyetherpad ddos?12:12
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mrmartinfeel free to join Marton's team!12:14
mrmartinwe have some free seats here!12:14
Akuhow to get a mentor now ? :P12:15
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martial_seconding Aku12:19
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csatarikiwimartin  jjung oren : T#5L is the best!12:22
kiwimartincsatari: I think we've taken over T#6L as well...12:23
csatarikiwimartin: The bigger the better :)12:23
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jjungWhat's the link to the slides?12:28
martial_jjung, from http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/12:28
jjungthank you martial_12:29
ildikovo/ :)12:32
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winggundamth_https://www.facebook.com/winggundamth/videos/10209790307088429/ this link is facebook live of upstream training right now in case maybe you want to share to your friend13:29
jungleboyjwiggin15: Here were the items we were planning to discuss:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-cinder-summit-meetup13:30
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jungleboyjSorry, those are the things we are starting to schedule to talk about Friday.13:31
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jungleboyjwiggin15: Here are the Cinder items we were talking about discussing:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-cinder-designsummit-planning13:31
jungleboyjgregnsk: wiggin15 ^^ So, between those two etherpads you have a rough look at what we have planned for this summit.13:32
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kimhindartCompliance13:34
v1k0d3nkolla-kubernetes13:34
ybabenkoneutron13:34
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tinxneutron13:34
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jungleboyjAn awesome project!13:34
petterlheat13:34
patrickeastbeer-as-a-service13:34
creanimorove ipv6 support13:34
trevormcnetworking!13:34
ybabenkopatrickeast: that is a good one13:34
wiggin15cinder13:34
diablo_rojopatrickeast +113:34
ruriryandragonflow13:34
nirmoynetworking, mostly neutron and snd controller13:35
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portdirect+1 Beer as a service13:35
xmarutotacker13:35
diablo_rojoalso.. sangria-as-a-service13:35
kimhindartOpenStack + OpenSCAP13:35
patrickeastdiablo_rojo: thats an api extension maybe?13:35
kimhindartBoring as a Service13:35
jungleboyjpatrickeast: ++13:35
mbozhenkoorchestration (Heat), deployment (Kolla, TripleO)13:35
portdirectOpenstack as a Service13:35
trevormcruriyan: +1 I'm writing unit tests right now for dragonflow ;)13:35
jungleboyjBoring as a service?  We need a service to help Walt diablo_rojo patrickeast ?13:35
AkuCeilometer: Making it useful ;)13:35
kimhindartComplinace as a Service = Boring as a Service13:36
gregnskjungleboy: I don't see any reference to out-of-tree driver discussion. should we add a new topic?13:36
zeihheat13:36
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kimhindartbut needed13:36
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gregnskjungleboyj: I don't see any reference to out-of-tree driver discussion. should we add a new topic?13:36
jungleboyjgregnsk: You are correct.  I thought at some point we had already added that.13:36
kimhindartCongress13:36
quasarhorizon13:36
tsukserGlance13:37
patrickeastgregnsk: yea, i would just add it to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-cinder-summit-meetup13:37
jungleboyjgregnsk: What patrickeast said.  :-)13:37
ntr0pydragonflow13:37
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patrickeastjungleboyj: i could have sworn it was a topic, but maybe I just assumed it would come up again13:38
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gregnskjungleboyj:, patrickeast:, wiggin15: added a new topic. Hopefully we get time for it13:38
carlosnetworking13:38
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jungleboyjgregnsk: I thnk it will be good to talk about with some different viewpoints in the room.  Can't promise it will change anything, but it will be interesting.13:39
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portdirectreplacing kube-proxy with Neutron LBaaS & OVN13:40
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo: Where is the ehterpad for the class again?13:41
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tobberyd_Aku: Agreed!13:41
Menthosjungleboyj: this? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/upstream-training-barcelona13:41
diablo_rojojungleboyj: Menthos, beat me to it :)13:42
jungleboyjMenthos: Thank you!  That was what I was looking for.13:42
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tsukserWhy is release period for Ocata shorter?13:59
carlosreleases start with design summit13:59
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skelsoIsn't this the last Design Summit aligned with the general Summit?13:59
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diablo_rojoPart of that is becuase of the reorganization of events14:00
winggundamth_skelso: yes14:00
diablo_rojoI think14:00
diablo_rojoskelso, yes14:00
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tsukserThanks!14:01
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jjungCheck: https://www.openstack.org/ptg/14:01
diablo_rojoWe will talk about the structure of the events in a few minutes14:01
skelsoIs there a sort of "here it is all in one place" picture of what a release cycle looks like? I've made my own, but doubt it matches reality.14:02
patrickeastthis? https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/index.html14:02
csatarihttps://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html14:02
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jungleboyjhttps://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html14:03
jjungSo the design part moves out of the Summit and happens during the PTG. And Summit moves about 8 weeks after OpenStack actual release.14:03
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rski2what is big tenant?14:03
mrmartinbig tent14:04
csatarirski2>  It is a "nick name" for all the Official OpenSTack Projects.14:04
skelsoNah, looking for an abstraction, not so much a specific releases' schedule. And I think it needs to be a literal picture/diagram for the people semi-outside the community who need to understand this stuff (i.e. my project managers).14:05
jjungrski2, also check: http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/howitsmade-official-projects.html#614:05
csatarirski2> and: http://docs.openstack.org/upstream-training/howitsmade-official-projects.html#214:06
rski2jjung, csatari mrmartin thanks14:06
Menthosskelso:  Okay, we need a whiteboard. I'm interested too14:06
skelsoGood idea14:06
MenthosOther question: what defines the core services? Because I can have a working OS without Swift or Cinder.14:07
csatariMenthos, skelso > Maybe this: https://www.openstack.org/assets/Uploads/summit-ptg-timeline-revised.png ?14:07
carloswhat does 'Security-supported' mean for older releases?14:08
Menthoscsatari: thanks! It's not so generic but the pattern is clear14:08
nmadhokcarlos: 'Security-supported' means that security bug fixes and patches will be available14:09
skelsoCloser and definitely useful...but not down inside one of the individual releases. I have in mind something that templates what the inside of one of those N/O/P/etc. arrows should look like.14:09
xmarutohow usually decided which feature is more important ? voting process among PTLs?14:10
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diablo_rojoxmaruto, Its not a matter of importance. More focused on is it needed for multiple companies and is it making progress etc14:12
diablo_rojoIf more companies want it, it generally goes quicker because more people are reviewing the patches and testing them.14:13
diablo_rojoIf its just one company working on it, its going to take a lot more effort to get the code merged.14:13
nmadhokJan 23-2714:14
AkuNeeds to be before Jan 2314:14
ntr0pynov21-2514:14
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jjungJan 23-2714:14
mrmartinhttps://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html14:14
srwilkershttps://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html14:14
martial_I see nov 14-17 in https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html14:14
srwilkerstotally a tie14:15
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xmarutodaiblo_rojo, ok, how does this many companies indicating they interested this feature? for existing feature we can measure the overall level of involvement from each company... but for completely new feature, voting?14:20
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diablo_rojoxmaruto- generally those get talked about in conversations about the feature at meetups/ptgs/summits.14:23
diablo_rojoAlso in the specs for larger implementations14:24
skelsoIn order for a critical fix to be cherry-picked to stable, does it first need to be incorporated in to a new RC? The online text doesn't mention such.14:24
diablo_rojoComments on the specs.14:24
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diablo_rojoskelso: Yeah things get fixed throughout the release, but then it comes up that it should be fixed in a previous release so its gets cherry picked there.14:25
skelsodiablo-rojo: Thanks.14:25
diablo_rojoNo problem :)14:26
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csatari Meetigns schedule: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/14:28
Akuwe get an heartattack then14:28
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btx91test14:30
csataribtx91> It works!14:31
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mbozhenkoHeat logs - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-10-19-08.04.txt14:35
creanhttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/14:35
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nmadhokCinder Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-cinder/latest.log.html14:36
srwilkershttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-10-19-16.00.txt14:36
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martial_http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-barbican/14:36
Markus_#openstack-manila14:36
jjungironic: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/14:36
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jjunghttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2016/ironic.2016-10-17-17.00.txt14:37
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winggundamth_OpenStack Ansible (OSA): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_ansible_meeting/14:37
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martial_so for example the Scientific Group meets in the general #openstack-meeting :) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_working_group14:38
srwilkersMEETING TIME: Wednesdays at 16:00 UTC #openstack-meeting-4.14:39
srwilkersfor kolla14:39
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nmadhokCinder Team Meeting: Wednesday at http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16&min=00&sec=0 #openstack-meeting14:39
tsukserNO MEETING OCT 27; Agenda for Nov 3, 2016 (14:00 UTC)14:39
tinxneutron-team: Every two weeks (on even weeks) on Monday at 2100 UTC in #openstack-meeting14:39
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tsukser(for glance)14:39
winggundamth_OpenStack Ansible (OSA) in #openstack-meeting-4, on Thursday at 16:00 UTC.14:39
nmadhokCinder Team Meeting: Wednesday at 1600 UTC in #openstack-meeting14:40
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Akuceilometer is usally thursdays in openstack-meeting14:40
gregnskCinder forever!14:40
ruriryanDragonflow: Weekly on Monday at 0900 UTC in #openstack-meeting-4 (IRC)14:40
csatariMarkus_> To join a channel you should write "/join"14:40
jungleboyjgregnsk: Indeed!14:40
Markus_Thanks14:40
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StefanPaetowJiscKeystone: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting - Meets every Tuesday at 18:00 UTV in #openstack-meeting.14:42
StefanPaetowJiscUTC even.14:42
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srwilkershttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/14:43
srwilkersalso, be mindful of the mailing list etiquette: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette14:43
nmadhokTo subscribe to OpenStack Dev mailing list and get your inbox flooded: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev14:44
jungleboyjsrwilkers: Good point!14:44
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nmadhokArchives for openstack-dev mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/14:44
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tobberyd_openstack-dev14:44
jungleboyjopenstack-dev14:45
jungleboyjand openstack14:45
tobberyd_openstack-operators14:45
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tobberyd_openstack-announce14:45
kiwimartinopenstack-docs14:46
goldenfriopenstack-operators14:46
bastafidli_openstack-dev14:46
winggundamth_what about https://ask.openstack.org/en/questions/ ??14:46
srwilkersopenstack-infra isnt a terrible one either14:46
palimariumopenstack-dev and openstack-docs14:46
kiwimartinAnd docs archives are found at: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/14:46
martial_OpenStack-Operators & User-Committee14:46
tinxWhat is launchpad?14:47
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creantinx, a bug tracking sw14:48
tsukser(hosted by Canonical)14:48
tinxthx14:48
srwilkersits a collaboration platform, actually pretty neat14:48
btx91Can't find a mailing list covering tempest14:48
tsukserhttps://launchpad.net14:48
hwoarangbtx91: projects are usually discussed in -dev as far as i know14:48
hwoarangbtx91: openstack-dev14:48
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katomobtx91: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-qa14:49
katomoTempest is a sub project of QA project.14:50
btx91Thnx14:50
tinxhttps://www.openstack-dach.org/14:50
mrmartinhttps://www.openstack.org/community/events/openstackdays14:50
ntr0pyNov/5 Openstack Day Berlin14:50
tobberyd_OpenStack Nordic days 1 month ago in Stockholm14:50
bastafidli_OpenStack east August 2016 in NYC14:50
mrmartinhttp://openstackceeday.com - OpenStack Day Budapest14:50
ruriryantinx: ntr0py: +114:51
katomoAnd, "-qa is DEPRECATED LIST, EVERYTHING HAS MOVED TO openstack-dev"14:51
nckbgovNov 22, 2016 OpenStack Day FranceParis, FR14:51
tobberyd_OpenStack Nordic days next fall - Copenhagen14:51
nmadhokUpcoming Openstack Day Events: https://www.openstack.org/community/events/openstackdays#tab=events_tab14:51
martial_there will be sessions at Super Computing 2016 ... not sure it answers the question though :)14:51
kiwimartinIn Australia this one could be interesting: https://www.meetup.com/Australian-OpenStack-User-Group/events/232940544/14:51
jjungMontreal it was last week: https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/openstack-day-canada-tickets-2749403640314:52
mrmartinhttp://australiaday.openstack.org.au14:52
MenthosGuess who's speaking at OpenStack Day France on Nov. 22nd?14:52
nmadhokMenthos: Speakers?14:53
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Menthos@nmadhok: I think the list has not been published yet, but I'm on it.14:54
srwilkers2/10-2/14 in ATL if i remember right14:55
srwilkersaround there somewhere14:55
martial_feb 1714:55
srwilkers20-2414:55
nmadhokThe first Project Teams Gathering (PTG) will be held in Atlanta, Feb 20-24, 2017. 14:55
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carlosjjung: Tue, 22 November 201614:57
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Markus_http://www.meetup.com/OpenStack-MeetUp-Frankfurt/events/234418594/15:20
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winggundamth_https://www.facebook.com/winggundamth/videos/10209791321193781/ live video right now15:28
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Markus_:)15:29
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skelsoMenthos & diablo-rojo (and others interested): Wanna spend 5 mins. afterwards talking release cycle diagram?15:47
Menthosskelso: sure15:47
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skelsoI'm on the second row left (audience left) - find me when done.15:48
MenthosOkay I'll just got at your row and wave my arms.15:50
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skelsoMenthos: Perfect! Thanks.15:58
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ianychoiwinggundamth_, thanks for live video! I think kmARC is presenting something :)16:02
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winggundamth_ianychoi: no problem. I'll do live tmr too :)16:03
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winggundamth_we should get professional video camera for live next time lol16:03
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MenthosOkay I need to ask: is there really sangria?16:04
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ianychoiwinggundamth_, wow nice! I am also anticipating tomorrow training sessions! Yep lol I completely agree with it16:05
portdirectthanks for a great session! :)16:05
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winggundamth_thanks everybody16:05
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winggundamth_see you tmr16:05
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bastafidliThank you. Bye16:06
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Markus_ https://irssi.org/download/ irc command line16:08
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kmARCThanks everyone for attending today. If you have any questions, shoot at me16:52
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