| spotz[m] | Hey do we want to actually start a log for working today or save the space. If we start a log I'd say we work in the agenda if not we can make an new etherpad for this | 15:01 |
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| ildikov | o/ | 15:02 |
| fungi | i'm not sure what start a log and save the space mean | 15:03 |
| spotz[m] | Hey ildikov! Our plan today is to work on our newsletter piece | 15:03 |
| fungi | oh, you mean #startmeeting | 15:04 |
| spotz[m] | Start meeting and taking up the log space for that:) | 15:04 |
| fungi | yeah, let's have it saved as a meeting log/minutes | 15:04 |
| ildikov | spotz[m]: noted | 15:04 |
| spotz[m] | Ok | 15:04 |
| fungi | it really takes up essentially no space | 15:04 |
| fungi | it's just a bit of text | 15:04 |
| spotz[m] | #startmeeting diversity-wg | 15:05 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Tue Feb 11 15:05:10 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'diversity_wg' | 15:05 |
| spotz[m] | #topic roll call | 15:05 |
| fungi | hey there | 15:06 |
| spotz[m] | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda | 15:07 |
| spotz[m] | I just made a session for today so we can just work in there | 15:07 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:08 |
| ildikov | +1 | 15:08 |
| spotz[m] | So what tone do we want to take with this? An intro to what we do and our goals for the year? | 15:09 |
| ildikov | If our goal is to raise more awareness then I think that's a good direction to go | 15:11 |
| spotz[m] | I know the group was formed by the board I want to say during liberty as the first survey results were presented at the Mitaka summit - that's if we want to go that back | 15:11 |
| spotz[m] | that far back... | 15:11 |
| fungi | yeah, we could probably start with a combo of the bits on https://openinfra.org/about/diversity/ and the things we noted at oid-na/ptg needed adding | 15:11 |
| fungi | summarize the history and charter, plug the survey and mention our other recent-ish activities, talk about where to find us to get involved | 15:12 |
| spotz[m] | I'm also working with DMitry to hopefully get some funding for Outreachy | 15:13 |
| fungi | yeah, that's a great addition | 15:15 |
| spotz[m] | I'm going to put words in the agenda section and feel free to add/change/etc. | 15:15 |
| ildikov | that all sounds good overall | 15:15 |
| fungi | past foundation member involvement in conferences like ghc? | 15:15 |
| spotz[m] | That started as WoO but when I combined the 2 groups it carried over for maybe a few years before it got dropped | 15:16 |
| fungi | i wonder if it would be appropriate to preface the feature piece with a comment about how diversity and inclusion efforts are coming increasingly under attack, making these efforts even more important to invest in? | 15:17 |
| ildikov | @fungi that feels a bit too close to politics to me, and it's also more US-centric | 15:19 |
| fungi | yes, agreed. it's some of the motivation for doing the piece now, but maybe we don't need to point it out directly | 15:19 |
| spotz[m] | Yeah though I think we can still talk about the importance. Maybe as part of why the group exists to begin with. Let me tie that in to the part I've got going | 15:19 |
| ildikov | I like the note on DEI efforts being more important than ever, if we can highlight that in a different context | 15:20 |
| fungi | right | 15:20 |
| ildikov | spotz[m]: +1 | 15:20 |
| fungi | i do want to avoid making it seem political or geo-specific | 15:20 |
| spotz[m] | Ok read what I got | 15:21 |
| fungi | i'm waffling on whether we should refer to it as the openinfra foundation and then parenthetically mention that it was going by the openstack foundation at the time | 15:24 |
| fungi | i think we mostly try to avoid unclarified mentions of the foundation's former name | 15:24 |
| spotz[m] | We could leave that to editorial:) | 15:24 |
| fungi | since audiences who are coming along now may not know the history | 15:25 |
| spotz[m] | Wow I guess it has been a while | 15:25 |
| fungi | 6-ish years? | 15:25 |
| fungi | but yeaj, we can get help from hspease[m] and aprice in polishing it too once we have the content nailed down | 15:26 |
| ildikov | We can also choose to share less of those details and just say 'the working group was created with the mission of ...' | 15:26 |
| spotz[m] | No, I want to say the vote was while I was on the board already | 15:26 |
| ildikov | and since then the OpenInfra BoD and community took it to where it is today | 15:26 |
| ildikov | so we put more emphasis on the mission, rather than who worked on it at the beginning | 15:27 |
| fungi | mmm, yeah foundation name change press release dated 2020-10-20 so it's only been ~4.5 years. anyway, getting off topic | 15:27 |
| spotz[m] | Ok let's get back to words in the agenda and we can get it coherent later. We do have a hard stop in 32 minutes | 15:28 |
| fungi | hspease[m]: do you have a target length for this? words/sentences/paragraphs/whatever? | 15:29 |
| fungi | i threw in some stuff about the inclusive language effort, coc overhaul, the about page on the foundation site, and shamelessly copied bits about the meetings and mailing list from there | 15:41 |
| fungi | also added links. please feel free to reword any of what's there | 15:42 |
| spotz[m] | Yeah saw you doing your magic. You're much better at words then me:) | 15:42 |
| fungi | not at all, mostly copy-paste ;) | 15:43 |
| spotz[m] | I think we have something Helena and Allison can start with and we can edit what they make of it | 15:43 |
| fungi | well, we've still got 15 minutes to think of other stuff to cram in there or polish some of what we already added | 15:44 |
| spotz[m] | It's hard not know exactly what they want/need | 15:45 |
| fungi | i think it's just a theme, and whatever we want to make of that | 15:45 |
| fungi | opportunity to try to get more people involved in our activities, highlight the various kinds of diversity our projects enjoy and where we need to improve, whatevrr | 15:46 |
| spotz[m] | Well so far we've given some background on the start, things we've done in the past, and how to find us. How about goals for this year? | 15:47 |
| fungi | yes! that would be great | 15:47 |
| fungi | last meeting we talked about some goals and to-do items | 15:47 |
| fungi | also if we talk about what we have planned, that might give readers a little better idea of where they could pitch in | 15:47 |
| spotz[m] | SO looking at the section underneath translations I think might be the best to bring up. The survey results just are depressing or I should say the lack of results. I pushed it at FOSDEM in the session there. And landing page we could use help there but it's not a life or death thing there | 15:49 |
| spotz[m] | Ok new point added for current endeavours | 15:53 |
| fungi | yeah, i think that's great, thanks! | 15:54 |
| spotz[m] | I saw we leave it like that for now and see what feedback we get | 15:55 |
| spotz[m] | saw = say | 15:56 |
| fungi | yep, sounds good. i also gave hspease[m] a heads up with the link to where we drafted it | 15:56 |
| fungi | and i'll get her the link to the meeting minutes too | 15:57 |
| spotz[m] | Ok I'm going to close the meeting if no one else has anything so I can get a drink before the next meeting | 15:57 |
| fungi | thanks! | 15:58 |
| spotz[m] | Thank you! | 15:58 |
| spotz[m] | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Tue Feb 11 15:58:27 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2025/diversity_wg.2025-02-11-15.05.html | 15:58 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2025/diversity_wg.2025-02-11-15.05.txt | 15:58 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/diversity_wg/2025/diversity_wg.2025-02-11-15.05.log.html | 15:58 |
| ildikov | @fungi @spotz[m] I polished up the first two paragraphs and put the text in the etherpad. I hope it helps. If you don't like it, feel free to just discard. | 16:00 |
| spotz[m] | Saw it pop in, it's definitely an improvement:) | 16:00 |
| fungi | awesome! | 16:03 |
| fungi | teamwork | 16:03 |
| ildikov | cool :) | 16:25 |
| ildikov | sorry it took so long | 16:25 |
| fungi | no not at all. the meeting was only an hour | 16:26 |
| ildikov | fair enough :) | 16:26 |
| fungi | and it's not as if there's nothing else important going on today. thanks for finding the time! | 16:27 |
| spotz[m] | I've had 4 meetings today so far, TC is next up. Then one about Outreachy | 17:59 |
| fungi | yeah, my worst tuesdays have a solid 5-hour block of back-to-back meetings | 18:02 |
| spotz[m] | My window for riding today got rained out | 18:03 |
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