Tuesday, 2023-12-12

spotz[m]I'll pull up last year's submittal as a starting point. This year we have the survey, CoC revamp to mention for sure00:37
fungiyep, sounds great00:38
fungithanks!00:38
spotz[m]Ok I found a draft from 2021. Good enough, I'll actually add it in the agenda so not to waste an etherpad00:40
fungipossible we didn't do one last year00:40
spotz[m]No we did, I just can't find it in my packrat email and found this one:)00:41
fungithe past few years have been a blur00:41
spotz[m]Ok it's in the agenda and I updated it some and atleast removed the old parts. Now we need better wording and anything I missed:) But that's for tomorrow00:47
fungiindeed, thanks again!00:47
fungisee you then00:47
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fungii'm around, just putting the kettle on15:00
spotz[m]Sounds good let me get us started15:01
spotz[m]#startmeeting diversity_wg15:02
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spotz[m]#chair fungi15:02
opendevmeetCurrent chairs: fungi spotz[m]15:02
spotz[m]#topic Roll call15:02
spotz[m]#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda15:02
fungiahoy!15:02
spotz[m]Thanks for all the work on getting us the page on the website!15:03
spotz[m]We have one main topic for today, so we can either have an open floor after or end early.15:04
spotz[m]#topic Annual Report Submission15:04
spotz[m]As mentioned on the channel previously but I'll repeat for the log. We have a draft up in the agenda based on the one I found for 2021 as I couldn't locate last year's easily. I've removed the older stuff and replaced with the things I remembered. 15:05
spotz[m]So we can add/delete move, edit, etc on the etherpad before we submit. We did well with the working session for the webpage so I figured we'd do the same for this15:06
fungiyep, just looking back over it now, thanks!15:06
spotz[m]Already corrected one OIF15:06
fungithe first paragraph goes straight from virtual ptg to speed mentoring and diversity lunch which were in-person summit, right?15:07
fungii'll see if i can make that less confusing15:08
fungidoes that edit work for you?15:08
spotz[m]Yeah that originally talked how we were hoping for a return to in person and having interactions15:08
spotz[m]Slight tweek to blend15:10
fungiwe can probably just decide to make the wiki edit in paragraph 4 past tense. as soon as we give aprice a thumbs-up on the new web page i'll make the corresponding change in the wiki15:11
fungilike, that could be today if we want it to15:11
spotz[m]I wasn't sure if you were going to leave them in parallel for a bit, I think that's why I worded like that15:12
fungino reason i can think to15:12
spotz[m]Ok15:13
fungii split that up into two bullets too15:13
fungisince the charter and new web home were distinct efforts, one was just blocked on the other for months15:14
spotz[m]Saw that and fixed the last sentance up some. I reall should have removed my color before we started15:14
fungilgtm, with the assumption that we're telling aprice to go ahead with adding the new diversity page to the site navigation menus now15:17
fungii wonder if we can be more precise with the description of the coc edits in the first bullet15:20
fungido you recall details? it's been so long my memory is fuzzy, but i can dig up the earlier discussions or redline copy15:21
spotz[m]We combined the regular and event ones, added bullying, gave more examples15:22
fungiaha, right15:22
fungiprobably the combining is relevant, i'll see if i can work that in15:22
fungimaybe that? i'm still not 100% on the wording but maybe it's good enough15:26
spotz[m]Let me put an attempt underneath and see if that's better15:28
fungiyeah, my struggle was with finding a way to incorporate those details without making it longer/more wordy than the other bullet lines15:30
fungiso focusing on outcomes rather than process15:30
spotz[m]I'm longer:)15:30
spotz[m]See what you think15:30
fungii'm okay with it, though i don't think we need to explain how we got there, just where it ended up (the other bullets are all strictly about outcomes)15:31
fungithat the wg worked on making those things happen through appropriate channels is implicit since it's our report15:32
spotz[m]Ok tweaked15:32
fungilgtm, thanks15:33
spotz[m]We're a good team:)15:33
fungiwhere i got stuck on wording is that it's technically not an updated code of conduct because it's replacing multiple former codes of conduct15:33
fungibut i suppose that nuance isn't ultimately important15:33
spotz[m]Allison and Kristin could tweak as well:)15:34
fungiof course!15:34
fungidoesn't look like kristin is in here, but i can ping her through other media15:35
spotz[m]Ok lets move on to Open Floor if there's anything? If not we can close out for today and I'll get this sent off15:35
fungisounds good15:35
spotz[m]I'll CC you15:36
fungiperfect15:36
spotz[m]Ok let's close this out, and I'll see you in the new year if not before!15:36
spotz[m]#endmeeting15:36
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fungiah, i was going to ask whether we should officially agree to ask aprice to make the site live, but seems we have consensus so i'll simply do it15:37
spotz[m]Oh yeah go for it!15:37
fungiwas just waiting for the topic change which didn't come ;)15:37
spotz[m]It's always easy when it's just us deciding15:37
spotz[m]Ha!15:37
fungion it15:37
spotz[m]I need breakfast!15:37
fungii've updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Diversity to simply link to https://openinfra.dev/about/diversity now15:46
spotz[m]Thank you!!!16:31
fungispotz[m]: as of moments ago, there is a new "Diversity & Inclusion Initiatives" link in the footer of all https://openinfra.dev/ pages22:48
spotz[m]fungi: Sweet we're famous:)23:13
fungifame before fortune, i guess23:17

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