Thursday, 2015-06-11

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openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/murano-specs: Add ability to abandon environments  https://review.openstack.org/19048205:25
openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/murano-specs: Add ability to abandon environments  https://review.openstack.org/19048205:27
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openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/murano-specs: Add ability to abandon environments  https://review.openstack.org/19048206:44
Nikolay_Sthi all06:52
Nikolay_Stisn't it better to split "open L specs" to another commit from this review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137340/06:52
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Nikolay_StNova did it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/150583/06:52
Nikolay_Stand also Sahara: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163374/06:54
Nikolay_Stkatyafervent_awa: ^^06:55
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openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/murano-specs: Add ability to abandon environments  https://review.openstack.org/19048207:10
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Nikolay_Stddovbii: ^^ you may be interested in my suggestion about katyafervent_awa commit07:42
ddovbiiNikolay_St: yep, I think you are right07:44
Nikolay_Stddovbii: thx for input :)07:44
openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/murano-specs: Add ability to abandon environments  https://review.openstack.org/19048208:25
openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/murano: Add REST endpoint for abandon environment  https://review.openstack.org/18806208:40
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openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/murano: Add REST endpoint for abandon environment  https://review.openstack.org/18806209:01
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mkodererhi folks, are there any plans to use the devstack plugin interface for murano?09:27
mkodererinstead of copying all the files over?09:27
katyaferventhi mkoderer09:28
katyaferventdoes devstack has a blueprint for this feature?09:28
katyaferventNikolay_St, ok, I'll split it09:32
Nikolay_Stkatyafervent: thx :)09:32
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Prepare specs for liberty  https://review.openstack.org/19055909:34
katyaferventhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/190559/09:34
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Prepare specs for liberty  https://review.openstack.org/19055909:36
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Remove name field from fields in dynamic UI  https://review.openstack.org/13734009:36
openstackgerritDmytro Dovbii proposed openstack/murano: Add REST endpoint for abandon environment  https://review.openstack.org/18806209:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/murano: [Murano Docs] Add importing an app package HowTo  https://review.openstack.org/19020209:44
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oberezovskyiHi! I faced a problem during installation devstack with murano. After reboot horizon complains that there is no table in db. I've investigated and found, that db is stored in tmp directory and, it obviously, there is clean db after reboot. This problem is in stable/kilo branch.09:46
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openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Remove name field from fields in dynamic UI  https://review.openstack.org/13734009:56
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kztsv_mbpback on track after a power outage of my persistent connection =(10:13
kztsv_mbp=)10:13
kztsv_mbphave I missed anything?10:14
mkodererkatyafervent: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/devstack/plugins.html10:18
mkodererkatyafervent: manila is already using it10:18
mkodererkatyafervent: it makes the usage much easier since you only need a single line in localrc10:19
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katyaferventmkoderer, cool! that's can be added in blueprint description also!10:32
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mkodererkatyafervent: are you using the spec process in Murano? I can push a spec...10:32
katyaferventyes, we do have specs, but blueprint is still needed. Does this require a big change?10:34
katyaferventIf no - spec is not needed10:34
oberezovskyikatyafervent: you wanted smth like this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/devstack-fix-horizon-database-storage ?10:35
mkodererit's just rework / copy of murano/contrib/devstack10:35
katyafervent/usr/share/openstack_dashboard/manage.py sync db will help you to recreate a db for murano-dashboard10:36
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katyaferventok, so blueprint is enough10:36
mkodererk, I'll create a BP thx10:36
katyaferventthanks!10:36
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oberezovskyikatyafervent: yes, syncdb will help, but i can't understand why do we need to store db in /tmp10:39
katyaferventthat's a failure of devstack script, in murano user specify that place by himself10:42
oberezovskyii see that path is specified in murano/contrib/devstack/lib/murano-dashboard10:44
katyaferventhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/146421510:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1464215 in murano "[dashboard] Database should not be stored at tmp file" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Ekaterina Chernova (efedorova)10:46
katyaferventGoing to fix it right now :)10:46
oberezovskyiThx10:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/murano: Clean-up openstack.common  https://review.openstack.org/18884810:52
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openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano: Increase default timeout for waiting agent response to 1 hour  https://review.openstack.org/19058511:13
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openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-dashboard: Update from descriptions  https://review.openstack.org/19059111:25
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano: Increase default timeout for waiting agent response to 1 hour  https://review.openstack.org/19058511:30
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano: Increase default timeout for waiting agent response to 1 hour  https://review.openstack.org/19058511:41
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openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Prepare specs for liberty  https://review.openstack.org/19055912:08
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Add simulation mode spec  https://review.openstack.org/19060812:08
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openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Add simulation mode spec  https://review.openstack.org/19060812:55
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Prepare specs for liberty  https://review.openstack.org/19055912:55
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano: Increase default timeout for waiting agent response to 1 hour  https://review.openstack.org/19058512:55
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openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano: Add new content to Murano introduction article  https://review.openstack.org/18764712:56
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Remove name field from fields in dynamic UI  https://review.openstack.org/13734012:56
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kztsv_mbpfolks, there's an interesting conversation going on in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190482/ about our API13:14
kztsv_mbpwould be great, if we could move it here13:14
kztsv_mbpthe more I think about Radeks proposal the more I like them and the less I like mine.13:18
ddovbii+1 to use some noun like 'db' or 'content' instead of abandon13:21
katyaferventI don't like internal. So are we looking for the verb that could replace 'abandon'?13:22
kztsv_mbpI'm starting to like 'db', actually.13:22
kztsv_mbpkatyafervent: yep, looks like that =)13:22
ddovbiikatyafervent: not a verb. A noun13:23
kztsv_mbpI like 'db' too. The request actually just removes db-representation from the database13:23
kztsv_mbpddovbii: a verb, actually ;)13:23
katyaferventyeah,  'abandon' is a verb13:23
kztsv_mbpabandon is a noun =) guys =)13:23
kztsv_mbpor not13:23
kztsv_mbpit's not =)13:23
kztsv_mbpok13:23
kztsv_mbpI've mixed up +)))13:24
ddovbii:D13:24
katyaferventit's not, that's why we don't like it)))13:24
ddovbiiabandon is a verb. we need to replace it for a noun. is it correct?13:25
kztsv_mbpddovbii: yep =)13:26
kztsv_mbpI really like how DELETE /environments/<environment_id>/db feels and looks.13:26
ddovbiilets think about more appropriate nouns13:27
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kztsv_mbpI thought of internal, db, model, stored, representation.13:28
katyaferventso the differences between DELETE /environments/<environment_id>/db (abondon) and DELETE /environments/<environment_id> will be only in deleting db13:28
ddovbiimaybe 'content' or 'model'13:28
ddovbii?13:28
katyaferventand what if we need to delete some other resources during force-delete operation?13:28
katyaferventI'd better like query string parameter13:29
ddovbiiwhat resources?13:29
kztsv_mbpkatyafervent: DELETE /environments/<environment_id>/db would only delete the environment from database, nothing else would be deleted.13:29
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kztsv_mbpkatyafervent: that's the whole point of `abandon` button. It only deletes the env from database, and leaves it's heat stack intact13:30
katyaferventand all sessions and tasks connected, right?13:30
ddovbiiyeah13:30
kztsv_mbpkatyafervent: yep. the env just vanishes from db, and everything else — the user has to clean up manually13:30
katyaferventand those are not connected to the env13:31
kztsv_mbpkatyafervent: they're connected to env13:31
ddovbiikatyafervent: the idea of feature is to allow to user to avoid manually deleting of database (environment, task, ..tables). and actually implemented code makes it. Not only 'environment' table is deleted13:35
ddovbii*the user13:35
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ddovbiistan_lagun: could you please suggest some thoughts?13:46
katyaferventor StanLagun  :)13:49
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openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-dashboard: Improve 'No apps' message on catalog index page  https://review.openstack.org/19065214:14
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openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano: Update from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19065914:24
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openstackgerritNikolay Starodubtsev proposed openstack/murano-specs: Prepare specs for liberty  https://review.openstack.org/19055914:31
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Nikolay_Stguys, we need to review this ASAP as far as Jenkins now good with this change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190559/14:43
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Nikolay_Stkatyafervent: kztsv_mbp just to make it quicker. we can't add empty folder/placeholder.rst to the specs/* because both possibilities will broke Jenkins14:59
Nikolay_Stwe can remove dummy.rst as soon as first liberty spec will landed15:00
kztsv_mbpwhy can't we rename it to template?15:00
kztsv_mbpit does feel like a template, you know.15:01
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano: Add global ignorance of foreing key during altering table  https://review.openstack.org/19068115:02
Nikolay_Stkztsv_mbp: sure15:02
Nikolay_Stbut now the common practice is not to include template for each release15:03
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Nikolay_Stbut we can do it15:03
Nikolay_Stit's not forbidden or smthg like this15:03
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano: Add global ignorance of foreing key during altering table  https://review.openstack.org/19068115:04
kztsv_mbpcan we add a symlink then?15:04
katyaferventcan't we add just .gitignore file or smth like that)15:04
katyaferventor jusrt readme15:04
kztsv_mbpreadme.rst is a great idea btw!15:05
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katyaferventI'll try ReadMe and test it locally before uploading :)15:06
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Nikolay_Stkatyafervent: +1 for Readme :D15:09
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Add simulation mode spec  https://review.openstack.org/19060815:11
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Prepare specs for liberty  https://review.openstack.org/19055915:11
openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano-specs: Remove name field from fields in dynamic UI  https://review.openstack.org/13734015:11
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openstackgerritEkaterina Chernova proposed openstack/murano: Add ignorance of foreign key check during altering table  https://review.openstack.org/19068115:20
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kztsv_mbpTo summarise my position about urls: there is no rest standards and we can find examples of both using parameters in delete and using verbs in urls16:00
kztsv_mbpI feel that it is correct to use `DELETE /environments/<id>/db` to implement abandon feature. This would delete the db-part of the environment and leave any other parts intact.16:01
kztsv_mbpI have no strong arguments against `DELETE /environments/<id>?abandon=true` but I feel, that it is not restful enough.16:01
kztsv_mbpI do not like `DELETE /environments/<id>/abandon` because we add a verb to api url. (`GET /environments/<id>/abandon` makes no sense. `GET /environments/<id>/db` on the other hand makes sense, although we shall never implement it)16:01
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katyaferventhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/190559/ StanLagun, ativelkov16:42
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kztsv_mbpI've found a counter-argument to `DELETE /environments/<id>/db` I do not like the fact, that after this delete /environments/<id> object is also not available. So I think I'll drift towards the ?abandon=true variant17:06
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kztsv_mbphttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/172903/ would really love to get this merged =)17:31
kztsv_mbpit's 3 weeks old by now =(17:31
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ruhei and freerunner just figured out that DB migration tests are always skipped18:33
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freerunnerskipped reason - database 'mysql' unavailable18:34
ruhewhich means that this change https://github.com/openstack/murano/commit/3f538d5b89c48875a251e3d973d1c56a30618b92 wasn't actually tested18:35
ruheand just today this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184493/ was merged to devstack and now we have failing dsvm job18:35
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit has been restarted to terminate a persistent looping third-party CI bot21:06
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openstackgerritKirill Zaitsev proposed openstack/murano: Migrations: ignore mysql fk cheks for any mysql driver  https://review.openstack.org/19087023:54

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