Tuesday, 2014-05-27

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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Fix multiple add-select controls  https://review.openstack.org/9551206:53
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openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/python-muranoclient: Partly refactor unittets  https://review.openstack.org/9545307:33
openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano: Adds an explanation of the engine workflow  https://review.openstack.org/9284607:35
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openstackgerritTimur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Update dynamic ui fields docs, fix some indents  https://review.openstack.org/9488608:04
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openstackgerritTimur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Refactor Packages and AppCatalog pagination  https://review.openstack.org/9393908:32
openstackgerritTimur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Preliminary support for HOT packages  https://review.openstack.org/9342908:39
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano: Add rmq message logging  https://review.openstack.org/9479008:55
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openstackgerritRuslan Kamaldinov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Rename muranoapi to murano  https://review.openstack.org/9551409:27
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openstackgerritIgor Yozhikov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Code update  https://review.openstack.org/9570309:29
openstackgerritIgor Yozhikov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Code update  https://review.openstack.org/9570409:31
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openstackgerritSergey Kolekonov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Update murano-dashboard-integration-tests job  https://review.openstack.org/9570809:57
openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/python-muranoclient: Partly refactor unittets  https://review.openstack.org/9545310:05
openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/python-muranoclient: Fix issue with python 3.3 gate job  https://review.openstack.org/9545310:17
openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/python-muranoclient: Fix issue with python 3.3 gate job  https://review.openstack.org/9545310:17
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openstackgerritSergey Kolekonov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Update murano-dashboard-integration-tests job  https://review.openstack.org/9570810:36
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openstackgerritRuslan Kamaldinov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Rename muranoapi to murano  https://review.openstack.org/9551411:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Code update  https://review.openstack.org/9570311:14
openstackgerritRuslan Kamaldinov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Rename muranoapi to murano  https://review.openstack.org/9551411:15
openstackgerritIgor Yozhikov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Add X fonts path switch  https://review.openstack.org/9572511:15
openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano: Code update  https://review.openstack.org/9570411:15
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openstackgerritIgor Yozhikov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Removed commented lines  https://review.openstack.org/9572811:24
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openstackgerritSergey Kolekonov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Fix Apache setup in deploy_component_new.sh script  https://review.openstack.org/9551112:06
openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano: Rename muranoapi to murano  https://review.openstack.org/9551412:15
openstackgerritTimur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Update dynamic ui fields docs, fix some indents  https://review.openstack.org/9488612:17
openstackgerritTimur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Refactor api.catalog.search() method to provide 'next_marker' value  https://review.openstack.org/9390012:18
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openstackgerritSergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Add initial tests for application deployments  https://review.openstack.org/9459412:33
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano-deployment: Add X fonts path switch  https://review.openstack.org/9572512:34
openstackgerritEkaterina Fedorova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Update horizon config for developer environment  https://review.openstack.org/9510212:39
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openstackgerritDmitry Teselkin proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Import networking library with devstack  https://review.openstack.org/9575012:51
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano: Add initial tests for application deployments  https://review.openstack.org/9459412:54
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano-deployment: Fix Apache setup in deploy_component_new.sh script  https://review.openstack.org/9551112:54
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openstackgerritRuslan Kamaldinov proposed a change to stackforge/murano: Fix incorrect import after rename  https://review.openstack.org/9575813:11
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openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/murano: Fix incorrect import after rename  https://review.openstack.org/9575813:43
openstackgerritAnastasia Kuznetsova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Move UI tests from murano-tests repo to murano-dashboard repo  https://review.openstack.org/9577113:44
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openstackgerritSergey Kolekonov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Update murano-dashboard-integration-tests job  https://review.openstack.org/9570813:57
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openstackgerritAnastasia Kuznetsova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Change repo with UI tests  https://review.openstack.org/9578014:22
openstackgerritSergey Kolekonov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Update murano-dashboard-integration-tests job  https://review.openstack.org/9570814:29
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openstackgerritAnastasia Kuznetsova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-dashboard: Move UI tests from murano-tests repo to murano-dashboard repo  https://review.openstack.org/9577115:23
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ruhetime for murano weekly meeting at #openstack-meeting-alt17:02
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lecalcotIs this an appropriate forum to inquire about Murano's billing/pricing/financial capabilities?18:30
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stan_lagunlecalcot, sure18:43
stan_lagunMurano collects some statistics. But no direct pricing support18:44
stan_lagunI think this need to be offload to some external app. Murano should not deal with money18:44
stan_lagunOnly provide runtime information that can be used for that purpose18:45
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lecalcotHey Stan, that makes sense. I think we need to define a few financial management terms.19:02
lecalcotBilling - invoicing and payment transacting.19:02
lecalcotMetering - financial management based on measured utilization19:02
lecalcotBilling Integration - real-time financial events that can be consumed by a billing system within an extension point19:02
lecalcotRun Rates - a mechanism for users to see the recurring cost of the items that they have purchased - a mechanism for administrators to see the recurring cost of the items that their tenants have purchased19:02
lecalcotShowback - a mechanism to allow users to see the calculated cost of their purchase during the ordering process19:02
lecalcotPricing - a method to set prices on common objects19:02
lecalcotIs it the intention for Murano to deliver any of these?19:04
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stan_lagunBilling integration19:08
lecalcotWould this be via Ceilometer?19:09
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stan_lagunI'm not sure. We are going to be able to offload some statistics to Ceilometer. Probably it would be possible to invoke external APIs (including those of billing systems) from within Murano workflows19:10
stan_lagunSo applications can collect any information they want and then send it to Ceilometer or billing system on anywhere it wants19:11
stan_lagunMaybe we will introduce some universal API for billing systems to hook on19:12
lecalcotWhen would billing integration come forth? Does this include the ability for application designers (those using Murano's yaml) to add a price (one-time or recurring) to the individual applications? Would this include support for multiple currencies or support for price discounts per tenant?19:13
stan_lagunIt is too early to tell as this future was not designed. BUT MuranoPL code (yamls) could ask some external REST service for price information and use it somehow19:15
stan_lagunIt can also give some info back19:15
stan_lagunMaybe there will be some sort of interface for that so that Murano could calculate total cost of environment or something like that19:16
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stan_lagunWe haven't really discussed it yet. So I'm just guessing.19:17
stan_lagunIf you have good use cases it would be great to register blueprint for that19:17
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lecalcotWould this be most appropriate as a Murano blueprint or is there another, separate financial management component being incubated to handle the aforementioned categories of financial capabilities?19:27
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stan_lagunI'm not aware on any OpenStack incubated financial management application. I'm not sure OpenStack is appropriate place for such systems. At list at this point. But there are established billing applications outside OpenStack. Probably Murano needs to be able to talk to them. If you have your vision regarding how Murano can integrate with billing systems or what Murano can do in this field you should probably submit blueprint to Murano19:33
stan_lagunOne of the problems here is that AFAIK Murano developers have no experience with financial systems. We feel like there is a need to bridge the gap with billing systems and pricing but don't know where to start :)19:36
stan_lagunSo any help is appreciated19:36
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lecalcotStan, I hear you. :)20:13
lecalcotThis considerations can be a gateway to another world.20:14
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stan_lagun:)20:16
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Zuul is offline due to an operational issue; ETA 2200 UTC.21:31
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Zuul is started and processing changes that were in the queue when it was stopped. Changes uploaded or approved since then will need to be re-approved or rechecked.22:08
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lecalcotIs Murano .5 the version that's available in Icehouse?22:48
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