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| openstackgerrit | Timur Nurlygayanov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Fixed names of jobs and README file https://review.openstack.org/94543 | 07:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/python-muranoclient: Run hacking in a right way https://review.openstack.org/93898 | 09:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Refactor api.catalog.search() method to provide 'next_marker' value https://review.openstack.org/93900 | 11:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Murashov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Add first deployment checks https://review.openstack.org/94594 | 11:52 |
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| tsufiev | btully, hello! | 12:50 |
| tsufiev | have you seen recent updates in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-ui-horizon-patterns ? | 12:51 |
| btully | hi there | 12:54 |
| btully | yes I saw the recent comment by george-okrokvertskhov | 12:54 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano-deployment: Fixed names of jobs and README file https://review.openstack.org/94543 | 12:55 |
| btully | was just commenting on it now :) | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano-deployment: Add Build_documentation.yaml job definition https://review.openstack.org/93469 | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano-deployment: Fix murano-dashboard and murano-api Jenkins jobs https://review.openstack.org/92537 | 12:56 |
| tsufiev | btully, ok :) | 12:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kuznetsova proposed a change to stackforge/murano-deployment: Add ability to archive packages in job, not in tests https://review.openstack.org/94614 | 13:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Timur Nurlygayanov proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Removed version prefix from the endpoint urls https://review.openstack.org/93490 | 13:17 |
| tsufiev | btully, speaking of the implementation... we're plan to have BP review for J1 release in the nearest future | 13:21 |
| tsufiev | you could add the time convenient for you here: doodle.com/cqf4biexd45ngi7i | 13:21 |
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| btully | tsufiev: the doodle link you provided above, what time zone is that in? | 14:54 |
| tsufiev | btully, UTC | 14:55 |
| btully | perfect. thanks! | 14:55 |
| btully | sorry, one last question tsufiev: do we know the duration of the BP review meeting? | 14:58 |
| tsufiev | btully, np :) | 14:58 |
| tsufiev | i suspect it to take at least one hour | 14:58 |
| btully | ok, thanks. good to know | 14:58 |
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| tsufiev | i've just updated https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/dynamic-ui-v3 with some thoughts on future UX in Murano (see whiteboard) | 15:07 |
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| tsufiev | anyone related to UI might be interested ;) | 15:07 |
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| btully | fascintating stuff, tsufiev! I definitely don't understand enough of it, but I recognize the UI challenges | 15:18 |
| tsufiev | btully, thank you :) the main challenge is that there are not enough usage scenarios and feedback - so i don't know whether i'm solving _the_right_ problem | 15:20 |
| tsufiev | that thoughts came from our discussions with stan lagun | 15:20 |
| btully | well once I am more familiar with everything i'd be happy to offer feedback | 15:30 |
| tsufiev | ok ) | 15:31 |
| sjmc7 | we certainly should be careful about solving problems that aren't clearly solving a real-world problem | 15:31 |
| tsufiev | sjmc7, many real-world problems are not considered a problems due to our cognitive limitations :) | 15:34 |
| btully | yes, we should create the problem first, THEN solve it :P | 15:34 |
| sjmc7 | :) yes.. but engineers have an excellent capacity for creating solutions where there are no problems :) | 15:35 |
| tsufiev | e.g., IPhone didn't solve a problem (in my opinion) | 15:35 |
| sjmc7 | if either of us had steve jobs' vision, we'd be on a beach in the seychelles :) | 15:35 |
| tsufiev | agree :) but that doesn't mean we should only react to obvious defects | 15:36 |
| sjmc7 | no, that's true | 15:37 |
| tsufiev | that blueprint aims to frame a context for dynamic UI development in a long term | 15:38 |
| sjmc7 | one thing that came up in atlanta was the idea of graphical environment construction - not just at murano's level, but down to the heat resources. apparently lots of people ask for it, but none of the engineers could understand the point | 15:39 |
| tsufiev | that means that if we design this thing right, it could became very popular | 15:41 |
| sjmc7 | yep | 15:41 |
| tsufiev | i mean, become general-purpose UI component, not limited to murano | 15:41 |
| tsufiev | as it happens currently to Mistral | 15:42 |
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| tsufiev | sjmc7_, i've tried to be more convincing about our new super-mega markup for general components UI here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dynamic-ui-v3-discussion (bottom of the document) | 19:20 |
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| sjmc7 | :D | 19:21 |
| tsufiev | i mean, about the necessity of super-mega... :) | 19:21 |
| sjmc7 | :) | 19:22 |
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| sjmc7 | tsufiev - on the subject of UIs, is there a reason murano is its own dashboard, rather than a panel inside 'project'? | 19:54 |
| sjmc7 | or just because it was easier to do that way? | 19:54 |
| tsufiev | sjmc7, i don't know, it was so already when I joined the project :) | 19:54 |
| tsufiev | historical reasons... maybe it's because Murano is neither integrated, nor incubated still | 19:55 |
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