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| openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Add more info to dynamic UI devdoc article https://review.openstack.org/93551 | 11:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/murano-api: Add new articles to documentation https://review.openstack.org/93307 | 12:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/murano-api: Add more info to dynamic UI devdoc article https://review.openstack.org/93551 | 12:30 |
| tsufiev | btully, yes it is possible for an App to belong to several categories | 12:32 |
| tsufiev | at least when you upload package in UI, you can select several categories | 12:32 |
| btully | thanks tsufiev. is there any documentation on how that gets assigned? | 12:32 |
| tsufiev | i suspect, it is not documented. will look for a place in code where that happens... | 12:33 |
| btully | in peeking through the codebase I saw the import-package command, and saw that there was an -u flag to update and -c flag for setting cagegory from the command line | 12:33 |
| katyafervent | bogdando, http://murano-docs.github.io/latest/user-guide/content/ch03s01.html | 12:33 |
| btully | but it wasn't clear on how to set multiple. is it just comma delimited? | 12:34 |
| katyafervent | bogdando, Hi) check out link above :) | 12:34 |
| katyafervent | Press Ctrl and select categories | 12:35 |
| btully | ahh i see. that's from the UI | 12:35 |
| btully | i was trying to set my dev environment up using the murano incubator packages | 12:35 |
| katyafervent | btully, And here is the api reference http://docs.muranorepositoryapi.apiary.io | 12:36 |
| btully | thank you! | 12:37 |
| katyafervent | btully, information about categories are not stored in manifest | 12:37 |
| btully | so is the easiest way to import packages and assign categories through the UI and not through the CLI? | 12:38 |
| katyafervent | with package upload api call json should be specified where at least one category should be defined | 12:38 |
| tsufiev | btully, you can specify space-separated list of categories after -c/--categories in import-package | 12:38 |
| tsufiev | just checked it | 12:38 |
| btully | right, I noticed that katyafervent when analyzing the manifests | 12:38 |
| katyafervent | UI is the simplest way! | 12:38 |
| btully | awesome tsufiev! I'm assuming I should wrap each category in quotes since some of the categories have spaces in their names, correct? e.g. "Message Queue" "Application Servers" | 12:40 |
| tsufiev | btully, exactly | 12:40 |
| btully | Спасибо | 12:41 |
| btully | :) | 12:41 |
| tsufiev | btw, i've finally replied in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-ui-horizon-patterns | 12:41 |
| tsufiev | btully, wow, you have cyrillic encoding :)! | 12:41 |
| btully | I'm guilty of developing on a Mac ;) | 12:42 |
| tsufiev | although, I'd also want gokrokve to participate in that blueprint discussion (as soon as summit ends) - because the design we want to change was his idea | 12:43 |
| btully | thanks for the reply. I'm working on getting the catalog index populated with applications so I can start experimenting with layout. I also want to see how the search/environment/category selectors work and figure out the best horizon design patterns to use. The search is easy since that pattern is obvious. The pulldowns, not so much. | 12:46 |
| tsufiev | btully, you can add me or katyafervent to the UI questions - in that case xchat will highlight the window and we won't miss the question | 12:46 |
| tsufiev | i mean, add our nicks | 12:46 |
| btully | indeed. and I do appreciate the work gokrokve did! | 12:47 |
| tsufiev | as we do | 12:48 |
| tsufiev | still some things could be improved | 12:48 |
| btully | Just because his work is "different" and not a "horizon design pattern" doesn't mean it's bad. In fact I kind of like it. It's innovative. But as you know, some people are averse to change | 12:48 |
| btully | so I'm sure between us, we can find a balance :) | 12:49 |
| tsufiev | the most noticeable issue with this design to me is that almost nobody understands now to which Environment all Applications are added after pressing 'Add to Env' | 12:49 |
| tsufiev | another thing different from horizon standards is the pagination, see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/normalize-dashboard-pagination | 12:50 |
| btully | yes, i need to understand the concept environments better myself | 12:51 |
| btully | right, the fact that the environment selector is hidden by default is confusing. so the fact that we plan to unhide it should help alleviate that | 12:51 |
| tsufiev | on the lower level, single Environment = single heat stack - that means one piece of network machinery for all Apps there (maybe something more) | 12:52 |
| tsufiev | on the higher level, it is just a way of grouping several Apps into single entity | 12:52 |
| btully | the other option is, rather than have a single global environment selector at the top of the section, that within each app tile the "Add to Env" is an actual selector | 12:52 |
| tsufiev | also, if one App definition references other App (by its fqn), it will be searched inside same Env | 12:53 |
| btully | so "add to env" become more of a pulldown rather than a button | 12:54 |
| tsufiev | yes, moving selector to per-App level could also help | 12:54 |
| btully | just a thought | 12:54 |
| btully | also, can you explain the "Latest Apps" section? | 12:54 |
| btully | it wasn't clear to me how apps show up in that section | 12:55 |
| tsufiev | with a remark: don't force user explicitly select an Env each time he presses the button | 12:55 |
| tsufiev | maybe use the last used Environment here | 12:55 |
| btully | are those apps that have been added to an environment or apps that have been uploaded/imported? | 12:55 |
| btully | yeah that could be tricky | 12:56 |
| tsufiev | considering 'Latest Apps': each time a new package is imported or an existing one is being added to Env (that doesn't imply a successful Add operation - just the pressing Add/Quick deploy button) that package goes to 'Latest Apps' section | 12:57 |
| btully | perhaps the better UX would be for the environment selector to show up on the modal that appears when you click on "add to env" and have that preselected to the last used environment, but allow the user to change it | 12:57 |
| tsufiev | currently Latest Apps contents are stored in web session - so it may suddenly become empty | 12:58 |
| btully | right now when I see the modal, i don't get any indication of what environment I'd be adding that app to. To me it makes most sense to show it here and at this step, and allow me to change it if i need to before I click "next" | 12:58 |
| btully | Ok. We may want to clarify the language "Latest Apps" or at least the text that appears when there are no results. | 13:00 |
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| tsufiev | i'd like the idea to make the process of adding App to Env as streamlined as possible | 13:01 |
| tsufiev | from that point of view having a drop-down in 'Add to Env' button is more preferred than another modal form | 13:02 |
| btully | since it's stored in web session and not the DB, it's really more user activity focused rather than "here are the latest apps that have been added to the system" | 13:03 |
| btully | maybe something like "Recent Activity" | 13:03 |
| tsufiev | yes, but we think about moving that info to db, because web session is not reliable enough | 13:03 |
| btully | super | 13:04 |
| tsufiev | still, that is a matter of UX discussion | 13:04 |
| btully | yeah i'd think why not just query the packages table and sort by date added descending? | 13:04 |
| tsufiev | i mean, the purpose and usability of that section | 13:04 |
| tsufiev | that way of querying will cut off recently deployed packages | 13:05 |
| btully | right, is the purpose to show the latest imported apps or is it to be more of a "dashboard" to show the latest activity | 13:05 |
| tsufiev | that, as i said should be clarified - i don't know that for sure either :) | 13:06 |
| btully | cool. yeah a good discussion worth having | 13:07 |
| btully | in terms of the Add To Env and Quick Deploy buttons on the app tiles | 13:07 |
| tsufiev | you could write down all your suggestions in the related blueprint | 13:07 |
| btully | currently for me, both buttons show the same modal when clicked | 13:07 |
| tsufiev | to make sure they won't get lost in irc logs | 13:08 |
| tsufiev | we add another header to that wizard - showing the Environment that App is being added to | 13:08 |
| tsufiev | *we can add | 13:08 |
| tsufiev | e.g. replace 'Add Application' -> 'Add Application to <someEnv>' | 13:09 |
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| btully | sure, will do. is there a specific format we use on comments/suggestions on the blueprint. Shame there isn't a comments section and that we have to use the whiteboard section | 13:09 |
| btully | i like that idea re adding to the header | 13:10 |
| tsufiev | great! | 13:10 |
| tsufiev | the only blueprint formatting convention we came up so far more or less: to mark each comment with @author | 13:11 |
| btully | ok. yeah i'm suprised launchpad doesn't have a plugin for comments that would automatically add the author and timestamp | 13:12 |
| tsufiev | yep, it was a serious pain for us to move from Jira | 13:13 |
| tsufiev | maybe someday we'll move here https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/ | 13:14 |
| btully | interesting. I hope it has comments! | 13:15 |
| tsufiev | AFAIK, it is still in active development | 13:16 |
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| btully | tsufiev i have updated the blueprint based on our discussions :) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/murano-ui-horizon-patterns | 13:32 |
| btully | good morning sjmc7 | 13:32 |
| sjmc7 | hey brian | 13:32 |
| btully | tsufiev feel free to add to the blueprint if i didn't capture everything | 13:32 |
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| tsufiev | btully, thank you for the feedback, hope our other UX guys will say their word! | 13:39 |
| btully | :) | 13:46 |
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| tsufiev | ativelkov, ping | 15:14 |
| ativelkov | tsufiev: got it | 15:15 |
| tsufiev | seems that bouncer works now :) | 15:15 |
| ativelkov | I had to reroute all the traffic through the Mirantis' proxy | 15:15 |
| tsufiev | ativelkov, please take a look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/app-catalog-pagination | 15:16 |
| tsufiev | i want to borrow some code from glance for packages pagination | 15:16 |
| ativelkov | yes, I saw it. Looks good to me | 15:17 |
| ativelkov | marker and limit, right? | 15:17 |
| tsufiev | yep | 15:17 |
| tsufiev | the key feature is to return generator from python-muranoclient | 15:17 |
| ativelkov | Yeah, we should align our APIs with the ones of Glance | 15:17 |
| tsufiev | ok | 15:17 |
| ativelkov | 'cause we'll have to migrate to Glance as soon as the artifacts are there. So, the less differences we have, the easier the migration will be | 15:18 |
| tsufiev | i also think so | 15:18 |
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| devkulkarni | does anyone know when and where is the Thursday meeting proposed by Ruslan between Murano, Heat, and Solum for discussing 'Environments'? | 17:00 |
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| ativelkov | devkulkarni: We haven't decided this yet. We've discussed that with Zane and asked him to find an available slot. As soon as he finds it, we'll write a follow up | 17:17 |
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| devkulkarni | Is ruslan here? | 20:20 |
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| igormarnat | devkulkarni: AFAIK, the meeting between members of Heat, Solum and Murano is going to take place at 10 AM on Friday | 22:36 |
| igormarnat | At Heat's room (which is also called design POD), I'm not sure about the number of it but you can figure it out from the map | 22:37 |
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