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| openstackgerrit | Timur Sufiev proposed a change to stackforge/python-muranoclient: Return package object in packages.create method https://review.openstack.org/90315 | 11:34 |
| sab | I was looking at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/murano/+spec/pre-deployment-validation , I was thinking if this could be closely related to un-deploy functionality. thoughts? | 11:40 |
| sab | sergmelikyan, any thoughts? | 11:42 |
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| stannie | hi | 12:35 |
| stannie | do you guys have a documentation more detailed than http://murano-docs.github.io/0.4.1/user-guide/content/ch04s01.html to compose your own service with Murano ? | 12:36 |
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| katyafervent | hi stannie! | 12:39 |
| katyafervent | we do have some docs in our wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/w/index.php?title=Murano/Documentation/How_to_create_application_package | 12:40 |
| katyafervent | here you can see some application definition description | 12:40 |
| katyafervent | but it's better to see a working example :) | 12:40 |
| stannie | thank you katyafervent! | 12:41 |
| katyafervent | you can find unpacked service definitions here https://github.com/murano-project/murano-app-incubator | 12:41 |
| stannie | couldn't find this page in the wiki home page | 12:41 |
| katyafervent | stannie, you are welcome! good luck | 12:41 |
| stannie | just found this page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Murano/HowToDecribeDeploymentWithMuranoAndHeat :) | 12:41 |
| stannie | which is not very verbose as you can see :p | 12:42 |
| katyafervent | also we have some specifications here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Murano/Specifications | 12:42 |
| ativelkov | stannie: which version of Murano are you trying to compose a service? 0.4 or the latest one? | 12:43 |
| stan_lagun | stannie, just note that 0.4.1 and 0.5 are very different | 12:43 |
| stannie | last one | 12:43 |
| stannie | 0.5 | 12:43 |
| stannie | these samples https://github.com/murano-project/murano-app-incubator/ are exactly what I was looking for, thanks | 12:47 |
| stannie | if i've a Heat template as input, can I easily compose an app with Murano ? i didn't see a sample with heat templates | 12:50 |
| stannie | or it's not possible since your DSL engine is generating a new Heat teamplate ? | 12:51 |
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| stan_lagun | stannie, it is possible although for most cases it is not a good idea | 13:20 |
| tnurlygayanov | stannie: if we want to move our application ti the application catalog we can do this. | 13:21 |
| tnurlygayanov | if we want just deploy this application, we can use only Heat. | 13:21 |
| stan_lagun | Currently there are no limitations to what one can do with Heat stack. This includes loading JSON/YAML template from resources and merging it into Heat | 13:22 |
| stan_lagun | but if you create VMs with Heat template instead of using MuranoPL base classes you will not have all the functionality built in to those classes like status reporting, network management, agent configuration | 13:23 |
| stan_lagun | But you can :) | 13:23 |
| stannie | this (https://wiki.openstack.org/w/images/d/d2/Table1.png) is outdated on v0.5 right ? | 13:31 |
| stannie | I mean this https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Murano/SimplifiedMetadataRepository | 13:31 |
| stan_lagun | yes, it is outdated | 13:32 |
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| sergmelikyan | sab, it is closely related, and in Murano 0.5 we introduced a few features to address validation and "un-do". Related to validation: we have classes & contracts. Strong static typing guarantees valid components interconnection, Contracts validates value of properties | 15:02 |
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| sergmelikyan | Related to un-do, we introduced Attributes, as implementation - they are key/value storage available in object level (in MuranoPL class), but they give ability to store some state and verify it on action call (for example to skip some action if is already executed). | 15:04 |
| sergmelikyan | sab, what actual use-case do you have? We can discuss in details each of the feature and how it can be used. | 15:05 |
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| goneri | hi | 15:20 |
| goneri | I read Alexander Tivelkov post regarding Artefacts http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cloud.openstack.devel/23145 | 15:21 |
| goneri | the Google document covers a lot of different points but I see nothing that explain how to plan consume the artefacts. I was expecting something explain how to get artefact attached as blockdevice or injected. Maybe I just misunderstood something :) | 15:23 |
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| gokrokve | goneri: Artifacts are just a bulk data and metadata. | 15:26 |
| goneri | how will you retrieve them, directly using an extended Glance API? | 15:27 |
| gokrokve | It will be up to artifact plugin to do some specific actions with the artifact. | 15:27 |
| gokrokve | Yes. There will be generic API call like PUT and GET | 15:28 |
| gokrokve | Murano for example, will store murano packages in Artifacts repository and perform search and query through Artifacts API. | 15:28 |
| goneri | I see. Since you use Heat, I will you push the data in the machines? | 15:29 |
| gokrokve | Heat will use artifacts in the same way, to put templates and software configs and then use URLs to retrieve them | 15:29 |
| gokrokve | Yes. Murano will download a murano package, process it and generate Heat template. Then Heat will do the rest. | 15:30 |
| gokrokve | Artifacts will have links between them, so you can get the root artifact and all his dependencies via artifact API. Like bulk load. | 15:31 |
| goneri | oky. I was confused because I use to push data in Glance as image, and then, use Cinder to attach them as block device. | 15:31 |
| goneri | that's a bit different. | 15:31 |
| gokrokve | Yes. Glance team is still designing how images will be stored in artifacts repo. | 15:31 |
| gokrokve | Probably Cinder will still be required to attach image to block device as Glance is a repository \ storage of images. | 15:32 |
| gokrokve | The main use case for Glance to use Artifacts for images is to store more complex objects as an image like OVA file which contains multiple disks | 15:33 |
| goneri | oky. I'm just curious, why don't you use Swift to store your data instead? | 15:33 |
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| drupalmonkey | akuznetsova_: i left a comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano/+bug/1309006 | 15:36 |
| drupalmonkey | akuznetsova_: should i mark it invalid? | 15:37 |
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| akuznetsova_ | drupalmonkey, yes, now i see, thanks, and you can mark it as invalid | 15:41 |
| ativelkov | goneri: because of the mission. Swift is just a storage, while Glance is catalog of *something-with-metadata* | 15:41 |
| ativelkov | Catalog has more features, like search, categories, tags, etc | 15:42 |
| ativelkov | Also, Glance's concept of immutable entities ("Once it is there, it cannot be modified, so you may rely on immutability of your local caches if you sync them by glance ID") is very convinient for us | 15:43 |
| stan_lagun | We need to store a lot of metadata for artifacts, query for artifacts by that metadata, do various advanced things. Plain storage is not enough. And btw Glance can store things in Swift. And AFAIK there are a lot of OpenStack installations without Swift | 15:43 |
| ruhe | goneri: the idea to use Glance as artifact storage came from this discussion http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/021216.html | 15:43 |
| ativelkov | Initially we wanted to have our ouw package catalog, but it turned out that lots of other projects want the same. | 15:43 |
| ativelkov | TC has made an advice to look to Glance - and the Glance team was very friendly and enthusiastic about that proposal | 15:44 |
| ativelkov | So, we are working tightly with them on this | 15:44 |
| goneri | I see, thanks for the informations. | 15:50 |
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| goneri | I see not answers on the mailing list. Do you already have some feedback from the Glance guys? | 15:59 |
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| sergmelikyan | goneri, yesterday was Glance weekly meeting, some discussions was there | 16:11 |
| goneri | ah ok | 16:12 |
| sergmelikyan | goneri, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2014/glance.2014-04-24-14.01.html | 16:12 |
| goneri | “Q: Why not just use (or extend) Swift?” | 16:13 |
| goneri | :D | 16:13 |
| sergmelikyan | :) | 16:13 |
| ativelkov | Yes, that was a common question, so I've answered it in advance | 16:15 |
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| ankurrr | ativelkov: Hi Alex, had a question re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90181/ So, does the commit require any additional changes besides a modification to the requirements.txt after a new version of the murano client is tagged? Anything else I should do in the meantime? | 18:27 |
| ankurrr | ativelkov: sorry, I meant to refer you to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/90185/ instead | 18:28 |
| ativelkov | ankurrr: no, it looks good to me, just pay attention to Timur Sufiev's comments | 18:29 |
| ativelkov | As soon as the new version of python-muranoclient is released (we will need to add appropriate tag), you'll just need to update the requirements.txt | 18:30 |
| ankurrr | ativelkov: ok got it. I'll modify the commit message based on Timur's feedback. Thanks | 18:30 |
| ruhe | ankurrr: could also please click "Abandon" on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89722/ ? | 18:32 |
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| ankurrr | ruhe: done | 18:52 |
| ruhe | ankurrr: thanks | 18:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ankur Rishi proposed a change to stackforge/python-muranoclient: for pkg list, make include_disabled default False https://review.openstack.org/90181 | 19:44 |
| ruhe | ankurrr: did you want to write "definition" instead of "definitation" in the commit message for https://review.openstack.org/90185 ? | 19:49 |
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| ankurrr | ruhe: ah, you're correct. let me fix that. | 19:50 |
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