Thursday, 2015-01-15

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openstackgerritIllia Khudoshyn proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Add restore manager  https://review.openstack.org/14690908:44
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openstackgerritIlya Sviridov proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Log output fix  https://review.openstack.org/13874009:41
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openstackgerritIllia Khudoshyn proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Add restore manager  https://review.openstack.org/14690910:57
openstackgerritOleksandr Minakov proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Adds ability to delete tables from error state  https://review.openstack.org/14716211:02
openstackgerritIlya Sviridov proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Removed py26 env from tox.ini  https://review.openstack.org/14747411:47
openstackgerritIllia Khudoshyn proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Add restore manager  https://review.openstack.org/14690911:54
openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Fixes bug with unzip on devstack reinstall  https://review.openstack.org/14670411:57
openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Fixes bug with unzip on devstack reinstall  https://review.openstack.org/14670411:57
openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Adds Swift support  https://review.openstack.org/14653412:02
openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Adds Swift support  https://review.openstack.org/14653412:16
openstackgerritOleksandr Minakov proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Adds ability to delete tables from error state  https://review.openstack.org/14716212:45
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openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Adds Swift support  https://review.openstack.org/14653413:43
isviridovHello everyone14:01
isviridovReady for meeting?14:01
achudnovetso/14:01
isviridovaostapenko ikhudoshyn dukhlov charlesw14:02
isviridovHello achudnovets14:02
achudnovetsisviridov: hi14:02
isviridovAnybody else here?14:02
isviridovachudnovets do you still work from home?14:02
achudnovetsisviridov: nope14:03
isviridovGood for you :) I can't do it ever with one child at home :)14:03
isviridovOk, let us start. At least one major point we can discuss14:04
isviridov#startmeeting magnetodb14:04
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 15 14:04:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is isviridov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:04
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'magnetodb'14:04
isviridovachudnovets o/14:04
isviridovAnybody else joined?14:04
ominakovo/14:04
isviridovHey ominakov14:05
isviridovHere we have an agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MagnetoDB/WeeklyMeetingAgenda#Agenda14:05
isviridov#topic Go through action items isviridov14:05
isviridovsviridov announce mdb release in ML14:05
aostapenkoHi, all14:06
isviridovSo, I'm done with it. I've send the announcement to openstack-dev and openstack mail lists14:06
isviridovwlecome aostapenko14:06
isviridovisviridov https://review.openstack.org/14345814:06
isviridovWe have merged it14:07
isviridovNext action item is alos for me14:07
isviridovisviridov https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145247/14:07
isviridovachudnovets I did all my best here14:07
isviridov:)14:07
achudnovetsI'm fixing docs for it. Thanks isviridov :)14:07
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isviridovachudnovets, cool14:08
isviridovcharlesw good morning14:08
isviridovptburke around?14:08
achudnovetscharlesw: o/14:08
isviridovcharlesw will you drive the topic from Paul?14:09
charleswHi guys, Paul won't be able to join14:09
isviridovcharlesw will you substitute him?14:10
isviridovI mean this topic 'refresh logo design ptburke'14:10
charleswI'll make sure his topic got covered14:10
isviridov#topic refresh logo design ptburke14:10
isviridovPlease go ahead14:10
charleswNot sure what exactly he wanted though14:10
isviridovI assume there is an idea to update mdb logo, what is great I think14:11
charleswHe wans to see a new logo, and maybe get some small things like t-thirts, pens, etc14:12
isviridovcharlesw wow cool14:12
aostapenko+214:12
charleswI'll sure Symantec will sponsor it14:12
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isviridovaostapenko first we have to vote for new logo, then approve, then receive t-shirts14:13
isviridovHello ajayaa14:13
charleswPaul is a very artistic guy. He will send you a new design, and we can discuss and go from there14:13
isviridovGreat!14:13
charleswI haven't seen his design though14:14
ominakovcharlesw, sounds great14:14
isviridovLet us wait for his income14:14
ajayaaHi isviridov14:14
* isviridov we have TTL topic driver14:14
isviridovajayaa is here, let us move on14:15
isviridov#topic ttl feature in mdb ajayaa14:15
ajayaado we want ttl on per row basis or column?14:15
ajayaacassandra provides column level ttl.14:15
* isviridov looking for blueprint14:15
openstackgerritIllia Khudoshyn proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Add restore manager  https://review.openstack.org/14690914:16
ajayaaif we want row level ttl then we might have to implement some login in mdb layer.14:16
isviridov#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnetodb/+spec/row-expiration14:16
ajayaalogic*14:16
isviridovajayaa have you seen the bp?14:16
ajayaayes.14:16
ajayaait seems row level.14:16
ajayaaThe problem with row level is insert and update statements behave different in cassandra.14:17
isviridovajayaa yes, it is.14:17
ajayaaand some inserts in mdb layer are insert and some are update.14:17
ajayaawhich creates inconsistency.14:18
ajayaahas anyone here ever dealt with tll feature in cassandra?14:18
ajayaaI would need to write a spec otherwise to explain inconsistencies.14:19
ajayaattl*14:19
isviridovWhat inconsistency do you mean?14:19
ikhudoshynin fact, spec would be great just to keep everybody on the same page14:19
isviridovikhudoshyn not sure spec is good for describing C* behaviour. I prefer mail list14:20
ajayaaMailing list is a good idea.14:20
ikhudoshynisviridov: ML is good for me as well14:20
ajayaaI will write an email explaining this.14:21
isviridovajayaa great!14:21
isviridov#action ajayaa start mail discussion about TTL implementation14:21
isviridovJust for clarification14:22
isviridovIn API documentation we are declaring support of TTL for item (row)14:23
isviridov#link https://magnetodb.readthedocs.org/en/latest/put_item.html#request-parameters14:23
isviridov#link https://magnetodb.readthedocs.org/en/latest/update_item.html#request-parameters14:23
isviridovajayaa moving ahead?14:23
ajayaayes. please.14:23
isviridovWe have open discussion next14:24
isviridov#topic Open discussion isviridov14:24
isviridovachudnovets let us discuss the placing of service for export metrics to statsd14:24
achudnovetsisviridov: I think contrib is best place for it14:25
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isviridovWe have two ways I se now, depends on how we handle this new feature. I mean if it is part of mdb core, or some extra functionality14:26
isviridovdukhlov_ hey14:26
dukhlov_hello14:26
achudnovetsdukhlov: o/14:26
isviridovachudnovets I also thought about contrib. Will it be dependend on magentodb itself>14:27
isviridov*?14:27
achudnovetsIt will depend on MagnetoDB monitoring api14:27
achudnovetsand this service will use common openstack code14:28
charleswachudnovets can you expand on contrib idea?14:28
isviridovI mean will you have magnetodb in requirements?14:28
isviridovcharlesw sorry14:28
achudnovetsisviridov: no, magnetodb code is not required for this service14:29
isviridovLet me do it for everyone14:29
isviridovWe need a cluster level statistic in statsd for Symantec.14:29
isviridovTo achieve this we are introdusing one more service to pull data from mdb and put to statsd14:30
isviridovit doesn't like as mdb part, so there is an idea to handle it as optional component and keep in contrib folder as HEAT team does14:30
isviridovhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/tree/master/contrib14:31
isviridov#link https://github.com/openstack/heat/tree/master/contrib14:31
charleswIs it push, or pull?14:31
isviridovcharlesw pull via Monitoring API14:31
* isviridov looking for bp link14:32
isviridov#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnetodb/+spec/statsd-tables-metrics14:33
isviridov#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143982/14:33
isviridovLet us continue14:34
isviridovachudnovets so it looks now as isolated component using python-magnetodbclient at most and no other connections with mdb14:36
achudnovetsisviridov: yep14:36
charleswStatsD is used and integrated in Swift, not contrib, and is part of core features. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/admin_guide.html#reporting-metrics-to-statsd14:36
isviridovachudnovets it looks exactly like collectd pluggin for me14:38
isviridovcharlesw it is ok, and we do it for request metrics. But for cluster level statistics we need additional execution entity14:40
isviridovcharlesw do you think we have to deliver it as part of mdb?14:40
charleswIf the deployment is easy, we can make it part of contrib. But I'd think this is important feature and there's no other alternatives, leaving it in core but have a flag to enable/disable it, until we have a better alternative.14:42
isviridovachudnovets another way is to intriduce one mere service what will use the storage, config, and all out code just send data to statsd periodically. In this we avoid credential management, API call so on. And still keep it optional.14:42
charleswOptional features, or alternative implementations, seem to be more appropriate for contrib14:43
isviridovachudnovets what do you think?14:45
achudnovetsisviridov: it's the option.14:45
isviridovachudnovets do you like it? :)\14:46
achudnovetsonly if we are going to make statsd a part of our code14:47
isviridovcharlesw as far as we mostly have middleware already, it is better to have complete statsd integration and keep it as feature.14:47
isviridovachudnovets yes, it looks like this now14:47
achudnovetsok. Then I need to update spec14:48
isviridovachudnovets charlesw do we have aggrement here?14:48
charleswsounds good to me :)14:48
isviridovdukhlov_ ikhudoshyn aostapenko?14:49
achudnovetslgtm14:49
aostapenko+114:49
isviridov#agreed statsd inntegration is a part of mdb fuctionality14:50
isviridov#agreed to place statds integration service at 'bin' folder14:50
isviridov#action achudnovets update spec14:50
* isviridov it was a quorum. Wasn't it?14:51
achudnovets#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143982/14:51
achudnovetsjust to specify what spec I need to update :)14:51
ikhudoshynit's funny that you ask it _after_ you posted 'agreed'14:51
isviridovachudnovets yeap14:52
isviridovachudnovets but it will be one more action. Will leave as is.14:52
isviridovikhudoshyn there were: isviridov aostapenko charlesw (3 of 5)14:53
isviridovAnything else to discuss, anounce? 7 mins left14:53
ikhudoshynso it should have been 'It was a quorum. It was'14:53
ikhudoshyn))14:53
achudnovetsikhudoshyn: democracy is an illusion...14:56
ikhudoshynachudnovets: you're so right)14:56
charleswachudnovets, did you learn that from you politics Masters degree training :)14:57
isviridovIf smb doesn't know OpenStack Community started accepting talks for summit in Vancouver.14:57
achudnovetscharlesw: I learned it because I'm from Ukraine :)14:58
isviridovThe deadline is 9 of February. I personally would love to see more talks about mdb14:58
* isviridov thinks that democracy is the same everywhere14:59
isviridov1 min left14:59
* ikhudoshyn thinks tat democracy just does not exists14:59
charleswisviridov, any suggestions of topics?14:59
openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Fixes log output  https://review.openstack.org/14754615:00
isviridovcharlesw not really, it can be any aspect of project, or field and mdb part in it15:00
isviridovJust look at previous summit winners.15:00
isviridovcharlesw I'll send you link15:00
charleswgreat, thx15:00
isviridovThanks everyone for joinin15:01
isviridov#endmeeting15:01
aostapenkothanks15:01
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isviridovcharlesw here it is https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-paris-summit-2014/session-videos/15:01
charleswexcellent15:01
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/magnetodb: Fixes bug with unzip on devstack reinstall  https://review.openstack.org/14670415:08
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openstackgerritIllia Khudoshyn proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Add restore manager  https://review.openstack.org/14690915:17
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isviridov_awaydukhlov_ here what I mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143115/8/magnetodb/common/utils/statsd.py16:10
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dukhlov_oh, I see16:15
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/magnetodb: Log output fix  https://review.openstack.org/13874016:16
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openstackgerritAlexander Chudnovets proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Monitoring API URLs refactoring  https://review.openstack.org/14524717:26
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openstackgerritAlexander Chudnovets proposed stackforge/magnetodb: Monitoring API URLs refactoring  https://review.openstack.org/14524717:44
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