Thursday, 2014-10-16

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openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed a change to stackforge/magnetodb: Adds documentation on health check request  https://review.openstack.org/12871409:45
openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed a change to stackforge/magnetodb: Improves tempest table creation and deletion waiting mechanism  https://review.openstack.org/12870610:03
openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed a change to stackforge/magnetodb: Adds documentation on health check request  https://review.openstack.org/12871410:08
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openstackgerritIlya Sviridov proposed a change to stackforge/magnetodb-specs: Test patchset  https://review.openstack.org/12887510:25
openstackgerritIllia Khudoshyn proposed a change to stackforge/magnetodb: Fix time format in log  https://review.openstack.org/12887910:33
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to stackforge/magnetodb-specs: Cleanup branding and requirements  https://review.openstack.org/12888511:12
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isviridovHere is a kilo scope https://launchpad.net/magnetodb/+milestone/kilo-111:58
isviridovI believe that blueprint list is complete and prioritized12:00
isviridovThe bugs should be triaged12:01
isviridovHere is meeting agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MagnetoDB/WeeklyMeetingAgenda12:11
isviridovFeel free to extend12:11
isviridovrushiagr_away, around?12:11
isviridovrushiagr_away, do you know if ajayaa will join the meeting?12:11
openstackgerritA change was merged to stackforge/magnetodb-specs: Cleanup branding and requirements  https://review.openstack.org/12888512:36
isviridovHello everybody12:59
isviridovMeeting time?12:59
isviridovkeith_newstadt, rushiagr_away, dukhlov, ikhudoshyn, achudnovets o/13:00
achuprin_Hi team!13:00
isviridovGreat nick achuprin_ :)13:00
keith_newstadthi all13:01
isviridovHello keith_newstadt13:01
isviridovLooks like nobody from Relience with us today13:01
isviridovkeith_newstadt, what about Charles and Nuno?13:01
isviridovWill they join us&13:02
keith_newstadti'll check in...13:02
isviridovkeith_newstadt, would be great. There are not many people today13:03
dukhlovhello13:03
* isviridov thinks if it is reasonable to have meeting today or send update via ML13:03
isviridovdukhlov, hey13:04
isviridovanybody else here?13:04
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keith_newstadtcharles just responded that he's on his way.  still driving in.13:05
* isviridov thinks less people less topics13:05
isviridovOk, let us start13:05
isviridov#startmeting magnetodb13:06
isviridov#startmetting magnetodb13:06
isviridov#startmeeting magnetodb13:06
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct 16 13:06:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is isviridov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:06
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:06
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'magnetodb'13:06
isviridovHi there13:06
isviridovo/13:06
dukhlov+113:06
isviridovSo today agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MagnetoDB/WeeklyMeetingAgenda13:07
isviridovAnd let us go throgh action items from last time13:07
isviridov#topic Go through action items13:08
isviridovajayaa review current list of metrics13:08
isviridovHe it not with us today, but I've updated the BP #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnetodb/+spec/celiometer-integration13:08
isviridovbased on uscases we have now. Pls see whiteboard section13:09
isviridovThe metrics list in google spreadsheet is also updated with 'Data destination' column13:09
isviridovI mean #link https://docs.google.com/a/mirantis.com/spreadsheets/d/1tYvgCSvkcOVED46MX8qSlUyrhNhHlyTrVkX7AXP-XR4/edit#gid=013:09
isviridovAny comments here?13:10
dukhlovnot from my side13:11
isviridovOk, move on?13:11
isviridovisviridov start create spec repo like https://github.com/openstack/nova-specs13:11
isviridovHere is a progress13:11
isviridovSo, here it is #link http://magnetodb-specs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/13:12
dukhlovgreat news13:12
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isviridovI will update the docs a bit, but we can go with it already13:12
isviridov#link https://github.com/stackforge/magnetodb-specs13:12
isviridovStartinng from kilo we are following standard community BP approval process13:13
isviridovI will move all current drafts from wiki to specs13:14
isviridov#topic Juno release status update https://launchpad.net/magnetodb/+milestone/juno-rc113:14
isviridovI think we have done with juno and I'm going to prerare release today13:15
isviridovThe branch stable/juno will be created for critical and security fixes13:15
isviridovAny objections, comments?13:16
isviridovdukhlov, charlesw ?13:16
charleswfine with me13:16
dukhlovok for me13:17
isviridov#topic Kilo roadmap overview and discussion https://launchpad.net/magnetodb/+milestone/kilo-113:17
isviridovI believe it is the biggest topic for today.13:17
isviridovThe Kilo milestone scope #link https://launchpad.net/magnetodb/+milestone/kilo-113:18
isviridovThere are several really huge blueprints13:18
isviridovMultidatacenter replication13:19
isviridovIntegration with Celiometer13:19
isviridovCassandra backend driver redesign13:19
isviridovExport/Import data operations13:19
isviridovSupport of global indexes13:19
isviridovI beleave we are slow with specs. We have only several designs approved.13:20
dukhlovwhat about backups?13:20
isviridovDo you mean 'Export/Import data operations'?13:21
isviridovI believe it is what we have to do in scope of mdb13:21
dukhlovno, I mean cassandra low level backups13:21
charleswBackup/recovery should be different13:21
dukhlovDo we skip Backups for kilo?13:22
keith_newstadtit feels like a lower priority to me13:23
isviridovdukhlov, it should be eather job of administrators or database management layer -trove13:23
keith_newstadtas it could be delivered as part of operations13:23
keith_newstadt+113:23
isviridovdukhlov, what do you think?13:23
dukhlovok, clear13:23
dukhlovthat is right way for me, but in this case we need to create trove integration bp13:24
isviridovdukhlov, not sure that we really need it in kilo13:24
dukhlovок13:25
isviridovI suggest to wait for trove evolution :)13:25
keith_newstadt+113:25
isviridovdukhlov, 'Cassandra backend driver redesign' should be specified well13:26
dukhlovAgree13:26
dukhlovI plan to write spec next week13:27
isviridovdukhlov, as you know we have some simplifications in monitoring during waiting for this13:27
isviridovdukhlov, cool13:27
isviridov#action dukhlov write a spec for 'Cassandra backend driver redesign'13:27
isviridov#action isviridov sync with ajayaa about 'Integration with Celiometer' status13:28
* isviridov added remind for himself13:28
isviridovkeith_newstadt, what is the demand for 'Support of global indexes' from your point of view?13:29
isviridovkeith_newstadt, I13:29
isviridov've set it as Low prior13:29
keith_newstadtwe don't have anyone asking for it at the moment13:30
keith_newstadti think lower priority is fine.  better that we make what we have as solid and operable as possible.13:30
isviridovkeith_newstadt, agree13:30
charlesw+1 to put more focus on operation side13:31
dukhlovCassandra has plans to implement GSI for version 3. I think it is reasonable to wait for that if we dont have any use case for now to implement it13:31
* isviridov just realised that it would be great to send kilo roadmap to ML13:31
isviridov#action isviridov share kilo scope with communnity via ML13:31
isviridovdukhlov, +113:32
isviridovdukhlov, great to know13:32
isviridovLooks like no other voices, let us move discussion to ML13:33
isviridovdukhlov, keith_newstadt, charlesw?13:34
dukhlov+113:34
isviridovAre we done with it for now?13:34
charleswdukhlov, what's the timeline for C* 3.0?13:34
dukhlovcharles: have no idea13:35
dukhlovI will check13:35
isviridovdukhlov, :)13:35
isviridovdukhlov, no ideas, just hope13:35
isviridovOk, let us move on13:36
isviridov#topic Open discussion13:36
isviridovcharlesw, will you attend summmit?13:36
charleswnot going this time13:36
isviridovcharlesw, :(13:37
isviridovWe have a design session there. 90 mins !13:37
charleswgood luck with that, keith will be there13:37
isviridovWould be great to have cores there.13:38
keith_newstadtwe were limited on how many we could send13:38
keith_newstadtit should be easier next time when the summit is in north america13:38
isviridovkeith_newstadt, here it is the same :( I know guy from Mirantis who pays for himself13:39
isviridovkeith_newstadt, yeap13:39
isviridovGentlemen we have some time left13:40
keith_newstadthow about cores from mirantis?  who is coming?13:40
isviridovkeith_newstadt, it is only me13:40
keith_newstadtwe will need to promote the session, as it will be important to have community participation13:41
isviridovsure thing. I have to clarify the schedule13:41
keith_newstadti know some folks around boston that i can reach out to13:41
keith_newstadthaving a link will help13:42
isviridov#action isviridov clarify schedule of Ecosystem MagnetoDB design session13:42
isviridovI have not found it in shed before13:42
isviridovkeith_newstadt, returning back to kilo are you interested in horizon integration for mdb?13:43
charleswAre we going to have some lab time for design session. Last time I attended a couple and felt very helpful.13:44
keith_newstadti think it is interesting, more from the community perspective than the symantec perspective13:44
keith_newstadtonly limited functionality - view tables, sizes, etc. but not manage data13:44
keith_newstadtenough to give visibility to the community13:44
keith_newstadti think a clear and easy set up, perhaps some open hosting, and sample code would be good as well13:45
isviridovkeith_newstadt, yes. We have TechTalks for this also13:45
keith_newstadtit is very compelling when you start to use it hands-on with real use cases13:45
keith_newstadt:)13:45
isviridovcharlesw, what do you mean 'lab time'?13:46
charleswmeaning hands-on lab exercises13:47
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charleswAnother topic, anybody interested in a Java client?13:47
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dukhlovJava Client to MagnetoDB?13:49
keith_newstadtwe have had requests for client libraries within symantec13:49
keith_newstadtsdks13:49
isviridovcharlesw, it is a great idea, but there are workshops for this. We have to figure out what format is the best13:49
charleswA fluent style Java API can be more user friendly than REST API13:49
isviridovcharlesw, I'm very interested in blueprint for this :)13:49
isviridovkeith_newstadt, charlesw there are already existing implementations, would be great to look and probably contribute13:51
isviridovhere it is #link http://developer.openstack.org/#sdk13:51
isviridov#link http://jclouds.apache.org/guides/openstack/13:52
charleswdukhlov, yes I meant Java client to MagnetoDB13:53
isviridov#action isviridov do realease of mdb Juno13:53
* isviridov one more remind :)13:53
isviridovcharlesw, does nuno uses IRC?13:54
isviridovuse*13:55
charleswI'll ask him13:55
isviridovThere is a patch from him, probably it will be easier to clarify details in chat13:55
* isviridov 4 mins left13:56
isviridovAre we done or 4 mins for coffe?13:56
keith_newstadt+1 :)13:56
aostapenko+113:56
isviridovaostapenko, wow. You were here13:57
isviridovThank you guys13:57
isviridov#stopmeeting13:57
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charleswthanks for organizing13:57
isviridov#endmeeting13:57
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isviridovvnaboychenko, hey13:57
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achudnovetshey guys. Are we going to add jolokia agent to ccm for our devstack integration? It's aabout bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnetodb/+spec/monitoring-api14:01
dukhlovhey achudnovets14:02
* isviridov_afk break canceled14:02
dukhlovI think we should do this14:02
isviridov_afkdukhlov, +114:03
achudnovetsdukhlov: I think so.14:03
isviridov_afkachudnovets, is it possible to do it with ccm?14:03
isviridov_afkIt is the main concern I have14:03
isviridov_afkSpyRay, achuprin_ around?14:04
achudnovetsisviridov_afk: I'll look at it, but I think it should be possible. It's just an another java agent :)14:05
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isviridovYeap, we have done it already with heap setting.14:06
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isviridovShouldn't be a problem14:06
isviridovAnd we will be able to write functional test for it. Thats great14:06
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isviridovHow jolokia is distributed?14:07
achudnovetsbut this agent first should be downloaded, so we need to change a bit our devstack integration code. If achuprin_ can help me with it...14:07
isviridovachudnovets, SpyRay is a correct guy14:08
achudnovetsisviridov: it's jar file14:08
isviridovachudnovets, there are list in maven repo http://search.maven.org/#search%7Cga%7C1%7Cjolokia14:08
achudnovetsisviridov: Oh, thanks! I forget about maven :)14:09
SpyRaySure, i can help with jolokia agent14:09
isviridovachudnovets, will you add it to spec?14:09
achudnovetsisviridov: ok, I'll do14:10
achudnovetsisviridov, dukhlov, SpyRay: thanks for you help :)14:10
isviridovSpyRay, it is passed to cassandra as cmd parameter14:10
isviridovSpyRay, just another JVM_OPTS for you14:11
isviridov!m achudnovets14:12
[o__o]You're doing good work, achudnovets!14:12
openstackisviridov: Error: "m" is not a valid command.14:12
isviridov!m SpyRay14:12
[o__o]You're doing good work, SpyRay!14:12
openstackisviridov: Error: "m" is not a valid command.14:12
isviridov[o__o] and openstack bots have different oppinios14:13
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SpyRayfor do this we will need to parse some files before 'ccm start'14:13
charleswany security concern about jolokia?14:14
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isviridovSpyRay, what do you mean?14:16
isviridovcharlesw, it will be used between C* and mdb-api nodes. The same network as usuall data14:17
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charleswThanks isviridov, so jolokia is for internal use only, not opening up whole C* JMX beans, right?14:20
isviridovcharlesw, exactly. We are using it to collect JMX data from python14:21
SpyRayisviridov, I said that I think that add jolokia will not be difficult14:21
isviridovachudnovets, probably it should be described more in spec14:22
isviridovSpyRay, cool!14:22
achudnovetsisviridov: ok14:26
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openstackgerritAlexander Chudnovets proposed a change to stackforge/magnetodb: Adds table size in monitoring API  https://review.openstack.org/12233017:20
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openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed a change to stackforge/magnetodb: Fixes logging.conf.sample  https://review.openstack.org/12904120:41
openstackgerritAndrei V. Ostapenko proposed a change to stackforge/magnetodb: Fixes logging.conf.sample  https://review.openstack.org/12904120:47
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