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| hparekh_ | hi | 04:56 |
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| hparekh_ | when i try to deploy kolla. it shows merge_configs is not legal parameter | 04:57 |
| hparekh_ | Can anybody help me ? | 04:57 |
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| nihilifer | omfg | 06:29 |
| nihilifer | is there any way to restore old gerrit style? | 06:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Use kolla version for base tag https://review.openstack.org/258610 | 07:12 |
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| mandre | nihilifer, doesn't seem like it | 07:32 |
| mandre | use gertty :) | 07:32 |
| nihilifer | mandre: i'm trying gerrty now. not bad, but its colorscheme is totally incompatible with solarized dark | 07:34 |
| nihilifer | it means, in solarized the unsubscibed projects are "invisible" | 07:35 |
| nihilifer | i'll probably have to play with my own colorscheme | 07:35 |
| mandre | yeah, I see what you mean | 07:35 |
| nihilifer | but still better than new gerrit ;) | 07:35 |
| mandre | you should be able to provide your own palette i believe | 07:36 |
| nihilifer | yes. i'll have to make my own. for now i just changed the color of unsibscribed project to whatever value | 07:36 |
| nihilifer | to see them at least | 07:37 |
| mandre | you might actually spend more time adjusting the gertty palette for your colorscheme than getting used to the new gerrit UI | 07:37 |
| mandre | just saying ;) | 07:37 |
| nihilifer | but maybe i'll save some time in future by using cli tool | 07:44 |
| nihilifer | exactly like with learning curve with vim ;) | 07:44 |
| mandre | it's pretty cool but sometimes I find the web interface more useful | 07:46 |
| mandre | i changed the key bindings to be somewhat similar to vim | 07:48 |
| mandre | if you're interested | 07:48 |
| mandre | http://paste.fedoraproject.org/302062/38596145/ | 07:51 |
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| nihilifer | mandre: looks cool, thx | 07:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Martin André proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] Add a new tool to help find the latest versions https://review.openstack.org/248481 | 08:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Increase number of cpus in Vagrant https://review.openstack.org/258629 | 09:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | hardik proposed openstack/kolla: Added dockerfiles for mistral. https://review.openstack.org/258890 | 09:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Use kolla version for base tag https://review.openstack.org/258610 | 10:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Use variables from all.yml for templating it https://review.openstack.org/258970 | 12:05 |
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| inc0 | hey | 14:48 |
| akwasnie | hi inc0:) | 14:49 |
| inc0 | I don't think I like new gerrit tbh | 14:49 |
| ajafo | hi | 14:49 |
| inc0 | where is checkout link? :/ | 14:49 |
| SamYaple | monring | 14:50 |
| akwasnie | right upper corner | 14:50 |
| ajafo | in right side at download | 14:50 |
| akwasnie | download | 14:50 |
| SamYaple | inc0: its got some nice stuff, but it feels more clustery | 14:51 |
| SamYaple | cluttery* | 14:51 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, maybe, right now I'm trying to find stuff I need;) | 14:51 |
| inc0 | its more fancy looking, not sure if more convenient | 14:51 |
| inc0 | nihilifer, ping | 14:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Alicja Kwasniewska proposed openstack/kolla: Added ELK containers for centralised logging https://review.openstack.org/252968 | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Alicja Kwasniewska proposed openstack/kolla: Added ELK containers for centralised logging https://review.openstack.org/252968 | 14:54 |
| inc0 | hey Ala, back from Italy? was cool? | 14:55 |
| inc0 | so ad elastic data container, elastic, or specifically luciene build indexes | 14:56 |
| inc0 | and they can take a lot of space | 14:56 |
| inc0 | and we don't want to lose them;) hence data container | 14:56 |
| nihilifer | inc0: pong | 14:57 |
| nihilifer | new gerrit sucks | 14:57 |
| inc0 | nihilifer, ad "how it's better than tags" | 14:57 |
| inc0 | we had discussion with SamYaple (mostly f2f_ | 14:57 |
| inc0 | reason we don't use tags in our logic is that we want to allow deployers to do whatever they want with them | 14:57 |
| inc0 | so we don't want to use it as it would force them to change their stuff | 14:58 |
| inc0 | (for example they might use it to distinguish stable and latests containers) | 14:58 |
| akwasnie | inc0: yes, I'm back, it was great! a lot of sun and bombardinio xD | 14:59 |
| inc0 | cool, glad to hear that | 14:59 |
| inc0 | you won't ski here. | 14:59 |
| SamYaple | inc0: im going to have to get people to pick up _all_ of that furniture, so if you want the couch you should get it sooner rather than later | 14:59 |
| nihilifer | inc0: but on the other hand, the approach with cating file by "docker exec | 14:59 |
| nihilifer | is impossible to implement in mesos | 15:00 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: also won't work for ansible (container must be running to have that) | 15:00 |
| SamYaple | just left a review | 15:00 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, if you have someone then ok | 15:00 |
| inc0 | I don't think I'll have means to transport it | 15:00 |
| SamYaple | i understand | 15:00 |
| inc0 | everyone who could help goes off for christmas | 15:00 |
| SamYaple | :/ | 15:00 |
| SamYaple | sdake around? | 15:01 |
| nihilifer | SamYaple: so what's your opinion on place we should keep versions? | 15:01 |
| nihilifer | because it seems that you're agaist both tags and docker exec | 15:01 |
| SamYaple | fyi guys, this galera/mariadb bootstrap patch was _almost_ approved and it would have broken multinode, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254961/ | 15:01 |
| inc0 | I still think tags should be the place | 15:01 |
| nihilifer | so what's the third way? ;) | 15:01 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: im _for_ the way it was suggested at the summit | 15:02 |
| nihilifer | inc0: +1 | 15:02 |
| inc0 | nihilifer, disclaimer: file on the host | 15:02 |
| inc0 | with versions in it | 15:02 |
| inc0 | but I am against it | 15:02 |
| SamYaple | a local file/sqlite database with the running version. it will only be updated once all tasks will be completed | 15:02 |
| nihilifer | so it's impossible in mesos | 15:02 |
| SamYaple | the upgrade tasks are idempotent so it can pick up where it left of | 15:02 |
| inc0 | with mesos that would be bad as well | 15:02 |
| nihilifer | you cannot access some local file by marathon api | 15:03 |
| inc0 | and other thingy....in our global.conf tag is called "openstack_release" | 15:03 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: hmm fair point. lets talk about this further then. The reason I am against using tags like that are because they are not exactly reliable with docker since they can change | 15:03 |
| inc0 | which clearly suggest thats...well...openstack release | 15:03 |
| SamYaple | inc0: happy to change that 100% | 15:03 |
| SamYaple | havent ever liked that | 15:03 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: what _do_ we have access to in the marathon api? | 15:04 |
| inc0 | we can try with LABEL | 15:04 |
| inc0 | I'll have to figure out how to do in with docker-py tho | 15:05 |
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| inc0 | but I think that should be doable | 15:05 |
| nihilifer | SamYaple: 1) volumes 2) image 3) networking 4) priviledged 5) some additional docker arguments | 15:07 |
| nihilifer | that's probably all we can get about running container in marathon | 15:07 |
| ajafo | maybe can we keep it in zookeper? | 15:07 |
| dmsimard | SamYaple: re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258017/ | 15:08 |
| inc0 | LABEL seems best right now | 15:08 |
| ajafo | if we'll have configuration to containers here so it could be version too | 15:08 |
| inc0 | nihilifer, can you access it? | 15:08 |
| dmsimard | So the question I have is, what makes it so there is an argument for a configuration ? Convenience ? What makes it so there is a parameter in the configuration file ? | 15:09 |
| nihilifer | inc0: i'm not sure, but probably yes | 15:09 |
| inc0 | lets try it | 15:09 |
| dmsimard | by that I mean, I don't mind (at all) removing the args, but should more of them be removed in favor of the configuration file or something ? | 15:09 |
| nihilifer | i didn't use labels in mesos yet | 15:09 |
| inc0 | its accessible by docker inspect | 15:09 |
| nihilifer | ok, i cannot google any obvious information whether marathon supports labels or not | 15:11 |
| nihilifer | i'll try to figure it out | 15:12 |
| nihilifer | ok, so to sum it up - i'll check labels. if there will be problems in that in mesos, then we'll think about ajafo's idea about zookeeper | 15:23 |
| nihilifer | is it good for you? | 15:23 |
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| inc0 | yeah, although I dislike idea of having that info outside | 15:34 |
| inc0 | but if there is no other option | 15:35 |
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| SamYaple | dmsimard: the "too many config options" isn't new, in fact at the end of liberty sdake said he wanted no more options | 15:39 |
| SamYaple | that said we have made a few exceptions here and there about it | 15:39 |
| SamYaple | this to me does not seem like something that would need to be set only once as a test, but more of a permantant option which makes it a good no-cli option in my opinion | 15:39 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: ajafo suggested zookeeper, but that won't work for ansible sine we dont _require_ zookeeper, but it may work in the same method (file tracking version) | 15:40 |
| SamYaple | inc0: the version being in the image means we cannot retrieve the version withhout starting a container, no? | 15:41 |
| SamYaple | inc0: for the record, I am not a big fan of the file either. if you remember this was also brought up at the summit. This is the best approach we could come up with that we can iterate on though. I am all for a better one, but using tags is not reliable, labels might work though | 15:43 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, for now I don't need to get version from image | 15:44 |
| inc0 | I need to find out what's running right now | 15:44 |
| inc0 | and that I can do | 15:44 |
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| SamYaple | what do you mean? | 15:45 |
| inc0 | I need to know what's running right now | 15:45 |
| inc0 | and that's only thing I have problem with now | 15:45 |
| SamYaple | no you dont, you can assume its <1.1 version (we talked about this too at the summit) | 15:46 |
| inc0 | I don't want to assume | 15:46 |
| SamYaple | well too bad the code is already tagged :P | 15:46 |
| SamYaple | lets follow the minds of many people at the summit and implement that | 15:46 |
| SamYaple | then we can iterate | 15:47 |
| inc0 | ok, I'm making use of version thats already there | 15:47 |
| inc0 | look at the code | 15:47 |
| SamYaple | no, you are _ASSUMING_ the tag is the version, it is not | 15:47 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, if there is no version, I will use 1.1 | 15:47 |
| SamYaple | thats a bad assumption | 15:47 |
| inc0 | which will not make any difference | 15:47 |
| inc0 | I can handle that | 15:47 |
| inc0 | I won't have version info anyway | 15:48 |
| inc0 | but I want to be future proof | 15:48 |
| inc0 | and have this mechanism in this release | 15:48 |
| SamYaple | which a file is, you just dont like it | 15:48 |
| inc0 | I just don't like it | 15:48 |
| SamYaple | we all agreed its not the best, but it is the best right now, and we can iterate on it | 15:48 |
| inc0 | because it's faulty | 15:48 |
| SamYaple | it is not | 15:48 |
| SamYaple | since the upgrade is idempotent, even in the abscence of the file we can still proceed safely | 15:49 |
| inc0 | I'll use file only if I won't find anything better | 15:49 |
| SamYaple | this was all discussed | 15:49 |
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| inc0 | but mesos won't use file | 15:49 |
| inc0 | so that's that | 15:49 |
| SamYaple | inc0: they will if they use zookeeper | 15:49 |
| inc0 | no, they MIGHT use zookeeper | 15:49 |
| inc0 | but if we can use LABEL | 15:50 |
| inc0 | that's better | 15:50 |
| SamYaple | I agree | 15:50 |
| inc0 | and I will explore this road before going to external file | 15:50 |
| SamYaple | label can be inspected outside of the container (image itself) and compared to running (no tags involved) | 15:50 |
| SamYaple | also LABEL is part of the image and cannot be cahnged like the tag can | 15:50 |
| SamYaple | so it meets my critera of being good | 15:50 |
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| SamYaple | inc0: question for you, do you disagree with my concerns about the tag usage? or just want to do that because you dont like the file idea? | 15:51 |
| inc0 | and it's bound to image not some arbitrary file so my criteria are also met | 15:51 |
| inc0 | SamYaple, we made this decission and I will comply with it | 15:52 |
| inc0 | imho it could be good carrier for this kind of info and it would be clean | 15:52 |
| inc0 | but it wouldn't be any better than LABEL in this regard | 15:53 |
| inc0 | other than ease of use | 15:53 |
| inc0 | that being said, having ability to tag "stable" "staging" and all (business specific stuff) imho outweigths what I just told | 15:54 |
| SamYaple | right but that wasnt my concern, my concern is the tag is not in our control and shouldnt be | 15:54 |
| inc0 | it could be if we would make this decision before | 15:54 |
| SamYaple | we did (before yo uwere here :P) | 15:55 |
| SamYaple | thats why none of our code uses tags, not because it hasnt been considered | 15:55 |
| inc0 | I know | 15:55 |
| inc0 | so I have every right to disagree:P but I don't really disagree | 15:55 |
| inc0 | I like that | 15:55 |
| SamYaple | ok i was just curious if you fundementally disagreed with the point | 15:55 |
| inc0 | AS LONG as we have some carrier for our kolla-specific info | 15:55 |
| inc0 | in images | 15:55 |
| inc0 | and LABEL might provide just that | 15:56 |
| SamYaple | i agree, LABELs seem nice | 15:56 |
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| inc0 | I don't like idea of file for several other reasons | 15:58 |
| inc0 | so where that file would be? | 15:59 |
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| inc0 | it had to be on deployed host | 15:59 |
| inc0 | and that means removing all the containers will not leave host untouched | 15:59 |
| inc0 | we need to remove file as well | 15:59 |
| inc0 | if someone does something outside of ansible (redeploy new image manually for whatever reason) | 16:00 |
| inc0 | file will go out of date without us knowing about it | 16:00 |
| inc0 | and there will be 100 different situations when this might fail to keep track of what is running | 16:00 |
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| inc0 | hence I want to avoid it as long as it make sense to avoid it | 16:01 |
| SamYaple | inc0: agreed, but at the same time the idempotentness of the upgrade would allow us to proceed safely even with the absecence of the file | 16:01 |
| SamYaple | the point is the file is not great everyone agrees (we all discussed the points you just wsaid) but it was the best we had at the end of a long week, the LABEL seems like the better option now, lets see if that plays out | 16:02 |
| inc0 | docker inspect with LABEL on works | 16:02 |
| inc0 | I'll do patchset | 16:02 |
| inc0 | with this oen | 16:02 |
| SamYaple | =2 | 16:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla: Playbook for nova upgrade https://review.openstack.org/254395 | 16:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla: Add kolla version to base container https://review.openstack.org/258627 | 16:05 |
| inc0 | look at the version patch | 16:05 |
| inc0 | I'll go ahead and write ansible code to extract this, should be easy enough | 16:06 |
| SamYaple | dont tell me what to do! | 16:06 |
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| inc0 | nihilifer, you confirm that it's possible with marathon, docker inspect works with this one | 16:06 |
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| inc0 | SamYaple, I kinda hoped you're past this point of human development...you are husband and father and so on...but well... | 16:07 |
| SamYaple | :P | 16:08 |
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| SamYaple | reviewed inc0, just need a bit of seperation between the tag and the version now and we are good | 16:10 |
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| inc0 | SamYaple, I don't understand, what do you mean by tag there? | 16:11 |
| inc0 | I don't use tags anywhere | 16:11 |
| SamYaple | mandre: thanks for taking over the version check patchset. ive been busy | 16:11 |
| inc0 | if you're referring to "where do I get kolla version number" - I get it from setup.cfg while building | 16:12 |
| SamYaple | sorry inc0, reviewing to many patchsets at once | 16:12 |
| SamYaple | ive updated my review | 16:12 |
| inc0 | ok, cool | 16:13 |
| inc0 | nihilifer, once you confirm this is useful for you, let's get this merged ok? | 16:13 |
| inc0 | and be done with this;) | 16:13 |
| SamYaple | i think we need to let this sit for the other cores as well inc0, this is a big issue and i want many heads to look at it and voice concerns | 16:13 |
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| inc0 | SamYaple, well, sure | 16:14 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Zuul is moving in very slow motion since roughly 13:30 UTC; the Infra team is investigating. | 16:41 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla-mesos: Fix network settings in Vagrant https://review.openstack.org/259120 | 17:27 |
| nihilifer | inc0: ok, sure. will +2 after confirming that's ok for mesos | 17:28 |
| inc0 | nihilifer, cool, ansible works like charm with this | 17:30 |
| inc0 | and it's nice because it's possible to use it for both container and image | 17:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla: Playbook for nova upgrade https://review.openstack.org/254395 | 17:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla: Playbook for nova upgrade https://review.openstack.org/254395 | 17:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Rostecki proposed openstack/kolla: Add kolla version to base container https://review.openstack.org/258627 | 17:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-mesos: Use kolla version for base tag https://review.openstack.org/258610 | 18:27 |
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| nihilifer | SamYaple: you here? | 19:10 |
| nihilifer | recently i'm thinking of making own dockerfile of mesos, marathon etc. | 19:11 |
| nihilifer | since the ones we're using from docker hub are outdated | 19:11 |
| nihilifer | and oriented only for one distro | 19:11 |
| nihilifer | etc. | 19:11 |
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| SamYaple | nihilifer: a-ok with that | 19:11 |
| SamYaple | i thought you might | 19:11 |
| SamYaple | but i was going to let you folks make that decision | 19:11 |
| nihilifer | and my concern is whether it may go to main kolla repo | 19:11 |
| SamYaple | I think it should, it is a container after all | 19:12 |
| nihilifer | since i'd like to use kolla-build for building these containers | 19:12 |
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| nihilifer | ok | 19:12 |
| nihilifer | cool | 19:12 |
| SamYaple | containers go in the kolla, deployment tools go in thier repo (kolla-ansible, kolla-mesos, kolla-salt, etc) | 19:12 |
| SamYaple | thats my vision anyway | 19:12 |
| nihilifer | inc0: marathon 0.11.0 seems to not expose info about label via its api... | 19:13 |
| nihilifer | but well, that's oudated version from docker hub | 19:13 |
| nihilifer | i saw something about labels in docs of the newest one | 19:14 |
| nihilifer | 0.13.x | 19:14 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: it would be in the image itself, can you do a docker inspect? | 19:14 |
| SamYaple | not sure what the return looks like | 19:14 |
| SamYaple | fyi labels are new as of docker 1.6 | 19:14 |
| rhallisey | SamYaple, yes agreed | 19:14 |
| rhallisey | with the repo separation comment | 19:14 |
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| nihilifer | SamYaple: well, docker inspect is the call for docker api | 19:14 |
| SamYaple | cool rhallisey | 19:15 |
| rhallisey | nihilifer, is that ok? | 19:15 |
| nihilifer | idea of kolla-mesos is to use only marathon or whatever mesos framework apis to manage everything | 19:15 |
| SamYaple | sorry ive been a bit MIA these past 2 weeks, moving is alot of work | 19:15 |
| SamYaple | nihilifer: is jumping to the latest 0.13.x not an option? | 19:15 |
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| nihilifer | SamYaple: it is, i'll try it | 19:15 |
| SamYaple | ok cool let me know where i can help | 19:16 |
| nihilifer | and that's exactly why i asked about putting own mesos/marathon dockerfiles :) | 19:16 |
| SamYaple | full circle! | 19:16 |
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| inc0 | nihilifer, you can still use zookeeper | 19:26 |
| inc0 | and move to labels whenever marathon feels to | 19:26 |
| inc0 | or you can make use of our mechanism for prefix/suffix files | 19:27 |
| nihilifer | inc0: yep, that will be the option if the new marahton will suck too | 19:27 |
| inc0 | so you can inject some random dockerfile code | 19:28 |
| inc0 | also, I think for your case, you can use tags as kolla-mesos is new thingy | 19:28 |
| inc0 | and you can just say "we own your tags" from day one | 19:28 |
| inc0 | but I'd guess move to labels as soon as marathon learns how to use it | 19:28 |
| nihilifer | we're using just tags right now, so.. ;) | 19:34 |
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| circ-user-Isbwr | tcherkv | 21:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sidharth Surana proposed openstack/kolla: Make galeradb bootstraping robust https://review.openstack.org/254961 | 21:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sidharth Surana proposed openstack/kolla: Expose the ARGS parameter in the start.sh https://review.openstack.org/259195 | 22:07 |
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| SamYaple | Sidharth, are you in this channel? | 22:23 |
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| ssurana | yes | 22:53 |
| ssurana | @Sam yes I am here | 22:53 |
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