| kata-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> I’m working through some refactoring for sandbox sizing, and in the process taking notes on a few things that I think are technical debt :thread: below… | 01:02 |
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| kata-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> @bergwolf @liubin0329 - I was looking at https://github.com/kata-containers/kata-containers/tree/main/src/runtime/pkg/katautils <-- since we just have shim-v2, it seems this pkg is unecessary? In particular, I was questioning katautils.CreateSandbox being here instead of shim-v2? | 01:03 |
| kata-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> i.e.: ```The katautils package contains useful functions that are shared by various parts of the codebase, including the runtime and the container v2 shim.``` | 01:03 |
| kata-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> just one more level if abstraction between shim, and the actual handling (ie, shimv2, katautils, vc.implementation, vc.api, vc sandbox ….) | 01:04 |
| kata-irc-bot | <dgibson> anyone know where to find AC meeting recordings? the last link I can see in the etherpad is from september | 01:33 |
| kata-irc-bot | <bergwolf> Totally agreed. Maybe we can just move its contents to `src/runtime/pkg/utils` ? | 02:03 |
| kata-irc-bot | <bergwolf> btw, @liubin0329 hurt his foot and is less responsive recently. | 02:03 |
| kata-irc-bot | <liubin0329> Moving katautils to containerd-shim-v2 will make codes simple. The good news is virtcontainers only use katatrace of katautils, and we can simply move katatrace to a separated package. And sandbox creation related can be moved to containerd-shim-v2 package. Others used by pkg/cmd can be merged into pkg/utils. | 02:59 |
| kata-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> I think there are also utils pkg under vc. Some of that could probably move to the top level utils as well. | 03:12 |
| kata-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Does Bin type with his feet normally? :) | 03:12 |
| kata-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> just kidding — sorry to hear Bin — I hope it is getting better. | 03:12 |
| kata-irc-bot | <liubin0329> Thanks, gradually recovering. | 03:15 |
| kata-irc-bot | <fidencio> @dgibson, it usually takes some time for Sunny to update the links there. Thanks for the reminder | 06:51 |
| kata-irc-bot | <fidencio> In any case, summing up, your demo was not presented as I think @aadam had a conflicting meeting. And for the kata-containers + podman discussion, @bergwolf suggested, we all agreed, and it also seems aligned with your suggestion, that *if* we bring it back, we do it via a wrapper, instead of bringing back the old code. | 06:54 |
| kata-irc-bot | <fidencio> Last but not least, the discussion starts around 16 minutes in, as the first 15 minutes we were just chatting while waiting for @aadam and @christophe to join. | 06:55 |
| kata-irc-bot | <fidencio> (you know, DST change in Europe usually causes chaos for 1 or 2 weeks, till US also changes) | 06:56 |
| kata-irc-bot | <christophe> @dgibson You will be happy to learn that overall, the arch committee largely prefers the wrapper approach :slightly_smiling_face: | 10:58 |
| kata-irc-bot | <christophe> I'd like to start with `runk` as a basis, in order to prepare for the dual control-plane scenario we will need in the future for confidential containers | 10:58 |
| kata-irc-bot | <bergwolf> I'm confused @christophe. Are you trying to add OCI cli to test vm based container or namespace based container? It seems that yesterday we mostly thought you were targeting the former one. | 12:51 |
| kata-irc-bot | <fgiudici> Hey @fidencio, sorry for the late reply, nothing pending from me, thanks! :pray: Glad to have you back full time :) | 13:43 |
| kata-irc-bot | <christophe> Whether it's a code fork or a runtime dispatch, I don't know yet, I have not really looked in depth at the code yet. | 13:50 |
| kata-irc-bot | <christophe> vm-based, but the idea is to leverage the OCI-half of runk, and dispatch the other side to either target the agent directly (current runk), target the shim v2 (podman compatibility) or target the agent over a secure channel (future dual-control-plane model for confidential containers) | 13:51 |
| kata-irc-bot | <christophe> (sorry, the above two replies are out of order, network gone, am on unreliable 4G ATM) | 13:52 |
| kata-irc-bot | <bergwolf> Ah, now I see it. And it makes sense to me. Thanks for the explanation! | 14:02 |
| kata-irc-bot | <sunny> @dgibson thanks for flagging! The recordings are in: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Kata_Containers_2021_Architecture_Committee_Mtgs\ | 21:35 |
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