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| kata-irc-bot1 | <lining2020x> Hello，Is there any to run agent directly instead of running in the guest VM just for testing / developing ? | 09:49 |
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| kata-irc-bot1 | <lining2020x> to answer the question by self: Yes, this two PRs are working on it: https://github.com/kata-containers/kata-containers/pull/550 https://github.com/kata-containers/kata-containers/pull/553 | 12:39 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <lining2020x> Hope this two PR will be merge as soon as possible. | 12:40 |
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| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> @archana.m.shinde, seems that kata packages already are part of openSuse: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/devel:kubic/katacontainers | 19:13 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> @jose.carlos.venegas.m: ^ | 19:14 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> @fidencio hey, I knew that there was some effort, but I was not updated if the integration was up and running today | 19:15 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> Yep, seems it's packaged as part of the distros | 19:16 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> And they actually took a smarter approach then we took on Fedora :slightly_smiling_face: | 19:17 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> interesting, probably can be shared at some point, something I see valuable of get distro maintainers involved is that we can come with a solution that works better for general adoption | 19:19 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> Yep. We're rethinking the whole packaging for 2.0 and we may end up going for a single kata-containers package | 19:19 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> that make sense | 19:19 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> it would be great to get some feedback on what is painful to try to fix it in 2.0 | 19:20 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> it is good placea to simplify | 19:20 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> Okay, okay, so we can stop packaging for opensuse and fedora right now. Which will already lower the burden on the kata side. Packaging go is ridiculously painful and that's not kata's fault | 19:20 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> Well, that's partially kata's fault for moving from C to Go, but I blame James and Julio for that | 19:21 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> xD | 19:21 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> Speaking seriously, that's something distros will have to improve on their side | 19:21 |
| fidencio | devimc: ^^^ take the blame :-) | 19:22 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> speaking of that, is rust (agent) will be a new challenge or is it more stable today in the fedora side ? | 19:22 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> it is going to be a mixed code project go, rust in the same package | 19:23 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> It's more stable, but we have to figure out how to do rust packaging, as none of us (working close to kata) have done that in the past | 19:23 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> So it's going to be a try & error kind of process | 19:24 |
| devimc | u_u' | 19:24 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> @ssheribe is working on that | 19:24 |
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| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> And we're quite close to have CRI-O in a somehow stable shape with kata | 19:26 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> There are still a few known bugs, 1.19 is broken due to gogo/protobuf issues, but things are becoming more stable | 19:27 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> @jose.carlos.venegas.m, just to see if I have a clear understanding. We were using OBS to build RPMs for both Fedora / openSUSE, right? Once those are already provided by the distros, we can just drop that. For ubuntu we use snap. For debian ... is snap also used? Do we focus on any other major distro? | 19:42 |
| fidencio | devimc: ^ | 19:42 |
| fidencio | okay, we can drop CentOS and RHEL as well | 19:43 |
| fidencio | okay, we have to revisit the whole https://github.com/kata-containers/documentation/blob/master/install/README.md | 19:44 |
| devimc | fidencio, snaps for ubuntu? yes, for debian? ehhh maybe not | 19:52 |
| devimc | fidencio, https://github.com/kata-containers/documentation/issues/685#issuecomment-654468180 | 19:52 |
| devimc | people don't want it | 19:52 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> Okay, so Debian packages are built using OBS | 19:53 |
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| kata-irc-bot1 | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> yes, but, for debian I know there was broken some time ago, I dont know if someone has taked some time to get it working | 20:01 |
| fidencio | hmm. right! | 20:02 |
| kata-irc-bot1 | <fidencio> I'm opening a github issue for us to track what has to be done on this front | 20:02 |
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