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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/644771 | 06:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-dashboard master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/644771 | 06:57 |
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| zaneb | ricolin: do we have a meeting today? | 13:08 |
| ricolin | I think we should | 13:09 |
| zaneb | is it now or in 49 minutes? | 13:11 |
| ricolin | it's 1400 UTC so in 48 mins later:) | 13:12 |
| ricolin | zaneb, ^^^ | 13:13 |
| zaneb | ack | 13:13 |
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| zaneb | added a couple of things to the agenda | 13:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/heat master: Update master for stable/stein https://review.openstack.org/644866 | 13:48 |
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| ricolin | #startmeeting heat | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 20 14:00:23 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 14:00 |
| ricolin | ramishra, zaneb pas-ha meeting time:) | 14:00 |
| ricolin | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:00 | |
| ramishra | hi | 14:01 |
| ricolin | o/ | 14:01 |
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| ricolin | let's wait for zaneb a while:) | 14:03 |
| ramishra | ricolin: Is anyone else joining? Am on 2 meetings/calls at the same time;) | 14:03 |
| zaneb | o/ | 14:03 |
| ricolin | there he is:) | 14:03 |
| ricolin | ramishra, I guess we can get started, feel free to jump across meetings if you needs | 14:04 |
| ricolin | #topic adding items to agenda | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "adding items to agenda (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:04 | |
| zaneb | fwiw I'd be fine with moving this meeting 1hr earlier if that worked better for y'all | 14:04 |
| ricolin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282019-03-20_1400_UTC.29 | 14:04 |
| ricolin | zaneb, that will be better IMO | 14:05 |
| ricolin | ramishra, will that be better for your schedule? | 14:05 |
| zaneb | (daylight savings has started here) | 14:05 |
| ramishra | ricolin: yep, that would be better for me | 14:06 |
| * ricolin never understand why moving your time around :p | 14:06 | |
| zaneb | me neither ;) | 14:07 |
| zaneb | Europe is going to stop | 14:07 |
| ricolin | #action ricolin will change the meeting time one hour earlier | 14:07 |
| zaneb | I hope the US will too but probably not this year | 14:07 |
| ricolin | #topic Converting legacy Zuul jobs | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Converting legacy Zuul jobs (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:07 | |
| zaneb | so I guess this is a bit less urgent now | 14:07 |
| zaneb | because they updated the legacy jobs to Bionic anyway | 14:08 |
| zaneb | (and it worked! yay) | 14:08 |
| ricolin | zaneb, no project breaks? | 14:08 |
| zaneb | but in the long term our pain would be reduced by migrating to new jobs | 14:08 |
| zaneb | ricolin: well, our project didn't break :) | 14:08 |
| zaneb | so anyway, we might consider this as something we should get done in Train | 14:09 |
| ricolin | zaneb, indeed, not on the top in my mind but we should make it in list | 14:10 |
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| zaneb | I don't think we're actually doing anything too out-there, so I don't know that it would be hard but I know very little about the zuul jobs | 14:10 |
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| ramishra | yeah may be we target that for next cycle. I had started it sometime back https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521236/ but never managed to spend time on it | 14:10 |
| ramishra | the fact that you can't test it locally makes it really painful | 14:11 |
| zaneb | yeeep | 14:11 |
| ricolin | ramishra, I have try to migrate gate tests too, and I sure your pain:) | 14:11 |
| ricolin | #action add Converting legacy Zuul jobs to Train target | 14:12 |
| ricolin | zaneb, move to next? | 14:13 |
| zaneb | yup | 14:13 |
| ricolin | #topic Cycle highlights | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cycle highlights (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:13 | |
| zaneb | ricolin: have you already worked on this? | 14:13 |
| ricolin | zaneb, not yet actually, but I try to list actions we done, inprogress, or hanging for this cycle here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/2018-Denver-PTG-Heat | 14:14 |
| ricolin | see the very end of the etherpad | 14:14 |
| zaneb | we actually have some highlights this time, so we should make sure that we get them submitted on time :) | 14:15 |
| zaneb | cool | 14:15 |
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| zaneb | should we start a separate etherpad to just collect cycle highlights? | 14:15 |
| ricolin | zaneb, that will be a nice idea indeed | 14:16 |
| zaneb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-stein-highlights | 14:16 |
| ricolin | lol | 14:16 |
| zaneb | ok, they're due this week | 14:16 |
| zaneb | I will add some stuff today, and let's try to review tomorrow and get them submitted before the end of the week | 14:17 |
| zaneb | next :) | 14:18 |
| ricolin | you mean submitted to openstack/releases? | 14:18 |
| zaneb | yeah. I'll leave that part to you :) | 14:18 |
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| ricolin | #action all provide feedback to cycle hightlight in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-stein-highlights | 14:19 |
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| ricolin | #action ricolin summit hightlight before the end of this week | 14:20 |
| ricolin | I think we need to discuss about cycle review too, | 14:20 |
| ricolin | We do have some hanging targets | 14:21 |
| ricolin | ramishra, zaneb would any of those task suitable for Train target? | 14:22 |
| zaneb | did we not do the upgrade-checker? I thought we had | 14:23 |
| ramishra | I thot that was just doing nothing:) | 14:24 |
| ramishra | it's just a placeholder | 14:24 |
| zaneb | yeah, but we have to have some code there to do nothing ;) | 14:24 |
| zaneb | oslo will provide us with all of the code | 14:24 |
| zaneb | we just need to hook it in | 14:25 |
| ramishra | OK | 14:25 |
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| ricolin | zaneb, okay | 14:26 |
| ricolin | zaneb, let's keep tracking on oslo side than | 14:27 |
| * ricolin move upgrade-checkers to inprogress | 14:27 | |
| zaneb | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2003657 shows Heat as merged | 14:28 |
| zaneb | https://review.openstack.org/611802 | 14:29 |
| zaneb | ricolin: you approved it :) | 14:29 |
| ricolin | zaneb, yes, just though it needs more further works | 14:30 |
| zaneb | no, that's all we need to do | 14:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat master: Update master for stable/stein https://review.openstack.org/644866 | 14:31 |
| ricolin | nice | 14:32 |
| * ricolin move it to achieved:) | 14:32 | |
| * pas-ha goes to re-instate his calendar | 14:32 | |
| pas-ha | o/ | 14:32 |
| ricolin | pas-ha, notice that we will move to Wednesday 1300 UTC since next week | 14:33 |
| ricolin | one hour earlier | 14:33 |
| pas-ha | ok, thanks | 14:33 |
| ricolin | pas-ha, and it's good to have you back:) | 14:34 |
| zaneb | \o/ | 14:34 |
| ricolin | We should land Swift template support for cli earlier, but I guess we can do it right at Train started | 14:35 |
| ricolin | We got some features under review, like add tags to octavia pool member, and make keystone endpoint type configable for server | 14:36 |
| zaneb | that second one is arguably a bug | 14:36 |
| zaneb | RC1 is this week, so at this point any features that have not merged have missed the boat | 14:37 |
| ricolin | Heat RC1 just landed | 14:37 |
| zaneb | there are I think a number of bug fixes floating around that would be nice to get in though | 14:37 |
| zaneb | oh | 14:38 |
| ricolin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:release-heat+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 14:38 |
| zaneb | well features have *definitely* missed the boat then :D | 14:38 |
| ricolin | haha | 14:38 |
| ricolin | I'm fine with consider that as a bug, since I really hope they can make it to earlier versions | 14:39 |
| zaneb | yes, I expect we'll want to backport it regardless of when it lands | 14:39 |
| ricolin | But I need to know how you guys think about it | 14:39 |
| ramishra | +1 | 14:39 |
| ricolin | ramishra, thanks | 14:40 |
| zaneb | I have a couple of concerns that are already mentioned on the patch | 14:40 |
| zaneb | 1) is putting the full endpoint path (with version) in the config file the Right Thing | 14:40 |
| zaneb | 2) it's not abstracted into a function that tells us what it's trying to do | 14:40 |
| zaneb | ramishra: does your +2 mean that (1) is the Right Thing? I wasn't quite sure how to interpret your earlier comment | 14:42 |
| ricolin | also I keep trying to make sure the queue status will be consist when we try to get status from heat-engine | 14:43 |
| ramishra | zaneb: function part can be refactored later I guess, on full endpoint path, I guess we support only v3 and it's ok | 14:43 |
| ricolin | another nit: will be nice to have a release note:) | 14:43 |
| ramishra | ricolin: do we need releasenotes for all bugs:) | 14:43 |
| ricolin | ramishra, not a blocker for sure, but will be nice to have when we touching config:) | 14:44 |
| zaneb | ricolin: +1 | 14:45 |
| zaneb | ramishra: if we only support v3 would it be better to add the version in code so that the config option is consistent with auth_uri? | 14:46 |
| pas-ha | can you drop a link to that ''make keystone endpoint type configable for server" thing? | 14:46 |
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| zaneb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642812/ | 14:46 |
| ricolin | #action cores please keep review keystone endpoint patch and we will allow https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642812/ to backport to previous version | 14:47 |
| ramishra | zaneb: possibly, or we can do a lookup from keystone https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/common/endpoint_utils.py#L24 | 14:48 |
| ramishra | I mean discovery whatever it's called | 14:48 |
| pas-ha | yes, the 'client' (os-collect-config) should be able to handle version discovery itself IMO | 14:50 |
| zaneb | I'll add some comments on the review | 14:50 |
| ramishra | zaneb: I mean we can change to support endpoint url without version(both) later too, so I +2ed it | 14:51 |
| ricolin | pas-ha, it might be hard for inner server though | 14:51 |
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| zaneb | ramishra: I'd rather not ever move the goalposts on what the config option should contain | 14:51 |
| pas-ha | anyway whatever ends up inside the instance must use 'public' endpoints, as it's generally not possible to access internal net from inside tenant net | 14:51 |
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| ricolin | pas-ha, that's true | 14:53 |
| openstackgerrit | jacky06 proposed openstack/python-heatclient master: Update hacking version https://review.openstack.org/641370 | 14:53 |
| ramishra | zaneb: I mean it's not a blocker as we have to make both work (with/without), but feel free to -1 it | 14:53 |
| zaneb | I wouldn't -1 but I might only +1 :) | 14:54 |
| ricolin | pas-ha, it might also works if we just force it all to be public endpoint | 14:54 |
| ricolin | I guess we can all move to gerrit for this topic | 14:54 |
| ricolin | let's move on | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | jacky06 proposed openstack/python-heatclient master: Update hacking version https://review.openstack.org/641370 | 14:55 |
| ricolin | #topic Heat Release | 14:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Heat Release (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:55 | |
| ricolin | as you know we release heat rc1 for stein | 14:55 |
| zaneb | ramishra: actually I guess we can't do discovery, because Heat itself probably can't reach the public endpoint | 14:56 |
| ricolin | I'm also target some release for other repo and for stable branch | 14:56 |
| ricolin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:release-heat+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 14:56 |
| ricolin | zaneb, your job as stable branch reviewer has come :) | 14:57 |
| ricolin | zaneb, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:stable/stein | 14:57 |
| zaneb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/(project:openstack/heat+OR+project:openstack/heat-agents+OR+project:openstack/heat-cfntools+OR+project:openstack/python-heatclient+)+branch:%22%5Estable/.*%22+status:open | 14:57 |
| ramishra | zaneb: ok, then having the version in the uri sounds like the only viable option? | 14:57 |
| zaneb | looks like I have been slacking | 14:57 |
| zaneb | ramishra: unless there's a way to discover the public keystone endpoint from the internal endpoint (in which case, why are we adding a config option?), I assume so yeah | 14:58 |
| ramishra | zaneb: I'll look at it tomorrow, we can discuss that in the review itself, lets move on now, ricolin sorry to drag this | 14:59 |
| ramishra | we have only 1 min left | 14:59 |
| ricolin | ramishra, NP, that's good discussion and should keep it going in review | 15:00 |
| ricolin | well, that make me need to jump to the last topic | 15:00 |
| ricolin | #topic Technical Vision Reflection | 15:00 |
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| ricolin | I'm working on writing a daft version of reflection, but I definitely need you all to do it together | 15:01 |
| ramishra | ricolin: sorry I need to go now, I'll catch up later | 15:01 |
| zaneb | ramishra: thanks! \o | 15:01 |
| ricolin | ramishra, thx for join | 15:01 |
| zaneb | ricolin: I can help with that if I ever find the time | 15:02 |
| zaneb | I need to review all of the other projects vision reflections as well :/ | 15:02 |
| ricolin | Anyway, let's not go to deep for the rest of meeting time, just like you guys know about this action | 15:02 |
| zaneb | ricolin: where are we going to work on it? in a review? or etherpad? | 15:03 |
| ricolin | #action ricolin will put out a draft version for vision reflection, cores please help on review | 15:03 |
| ricolin | zaneb, let me put out a draft version and we can all update that patch anytime | 15:04 |
| zaneb | ok | 15:04 |
| ricolin | just resummit that patch with your update will be fine | 15:04 |
| zaneb | cool | 15:05 |
| ricolin | Okay, time's over, and I don't want to take too much of all your time, so let's try to keep those actions after meeting | 15:05 |
| ricolin | zaneb, ramishra pas-ha feel free to tag `heat-train-target` to any story you think we have to do it in next cycle | 15:06 |
| ricolin | #endmeeting | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Heat (Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23heat/)" | 15:06 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 20 15:06:37 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2019/heat.2019-03-20-14.00.html | 15:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2019/heat.2019-03-20-14.00.txt | 15:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2019/heat.2019-03-20-14.00.log.html | 15:06 |
| zaneb | thanks ricolin pas-ha | 15:06 |
| ricolin | zaneb, ramishra pas-ha thanks for join:) | 15:06 |
| * zaneb adjusts calendar for next week | 15:07 | |
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| ricolin | right, let me change docs and calenders before I forgot about it! | 15:08 |
| ricolin | meeting time chnaged to Wednesday 1300 UTC now | 15:14 |
| zaneb | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/(project:openstack/heat+OR+project:openstack/heat-agents+OR+project:openstack/heat-cfntools+OR+project:openstack/python-heatclient+)+branch:%22%5Estable/.*%22+status:open is looking a bit healthier now | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | jacky06 proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Update hacking version to latest https://review.openstack.org/628455 | 16:39 |
| openstackgerrit | jacky06 proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Update hacking version to latest https://review.openstack.org/628455 | 16:41 |
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| ricolin | zaneb, cheers | 17:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat master: Fix SoftwareDeployment on DELETE action https://review.openstack.org/627367 | 19:02 |
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| jrosser | zaneb: if it's possible to drop the config option and autodetect in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642812 it would be cool - though we might need some more direct help figuring out how to do that | 21:12 |
| zaneb | jrosser: yeah, Keystone folks might know the answer, because I surely don't ;) | 21:13 |
| jrosser | same here :) | 21:14 |
| jrosser | zaneb: so i think i found the code for how to autodiscover the public endpoint, and we can test that out | 21:31 |
| jrosser | but that raises a question really - is it OK to change the behaviour in stable branches? | 21:32 |
| zaneb | is there a scenario in which that would break somebody? | 21:55 |
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| jrosser | well i don't really know | 22:09 |
| jrosser | the difference would be that a patch which changed to autodetect would no longer use the values that people have in heat.conf | 22:09 |
| * jrosser not heat expert either :/ | 22:11 | |
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| zaneb | jrosser: only scenario I can imagine is if user workloads are set up to be able to access the internal net but *not* the public one | 23:26 |
| zaneb | which sounds whack | 23:27 |
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