Wednesday, 2019-02-13

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nicolasochemOn my question above, feel free to reply despite my absence, I will make sure to monitor irc logs.00:21
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ricolinHi anyone around for a quick meeting?:)08:01
ricolinzaneb, ramishra08:02
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e0nehi08:10
e0nericolin: do you have heat meeting now?08:10
ricoline0ne, Hi, we appear not have enough people for meeting but I'm here:)08:11
ricoline0ne, how can I help you!:)08:11
e0nericolin: so it's time to talk about heat-dashboard a bit:)08:12
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e0nein case, if you miss my mail to openstack-discuss@ ML08:12
e0nehere is a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/634796/ to add integration tests08:12
e0neI would like to have this for the each plugin to verify that it works with a current horizon08:13
* ricolin review it right away08:13
asmitaHi.Review request for patch[1] and patch[2]. [1]: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580943/ and [2]:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583429.Thank you.08:14
ricoline0ne, BTW it's fine for a core to directly approve another core's patch here, so feel free to use it08:15
ricolinasmita, cool! I will do it right after I'm done with e0ne's patch08:15
e0nericolin: we're not cores in heat-dashboard08:15
asmitaricolin: Thank you so much.08:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Implement preview for ResourceGroup  https://review.openstack.org/62210208:17
ricolinAs I understand, all horizon core should be core in heat-dashboard until we got enough confident to separate08:18
ricolinI will fix that asap08:18
e0nericolin: sounds reasonable08:18
e0nericolin: btw, we didn't get enough capacity in horizon team to support all plugins08:18
ramishraricolin: sorry am late:/08:18
e0nericolin: but I talked to my manager about heat-dashboard and we agreed that at least I'll be able to support it by fixing critical bugs because it's important for our product08:19
ramishraricolin: Anything specific to discuss. it's normally launch time for me. Little inconvinient08:20
ramishralunch time08:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Add rbac_policy/subnetpool support for OS::Neutron::Quota resource  https://review.openstack.org/62156908:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Unit tests: Avoid deprecation warning for getargspec()  https://review.openstack.org/56890408:20
ricolinramishra, NP, I think we should do some adjust08:20
ricolinwe're dynamic:)08:20
ramishraIs zaneb back in US timezone now?08:21
ricolinramishra, is he now?08:21
ramishraricolin: I'm asking I don't know08:21
zanebricolin: sorry, forgot we had a meeting tonight08:21
zanebback in US time zone in 2 weeks08:22
ricolinzaneb, still a kiwi?:)08:22
ricolinokay08:22
ricolinzaneb, ramishra we should add horizon cores as heat-dashboard core until we're ready to take over08:24
ricolinis that okay with you all?08:24
ramishraI think gate for all our projects is green atm. Other than reviews do we have anything specific to dicuss08:24
e0nericolin, zaneb, ramishra: just for a note: we can help you only with some maintenance now08:24
ricoline0ne, that's already big help IMO08:25
ramishraricolin: I can't review/contribute anything there. I don't have anything to comment08:25
e0ne:)08:25
zanebricolin: we're taking over?08:25
ramishraI thought it was a separate team08:25
* zaneb is never going to be ready to take over08:25
ricolinzaneb, I remember we agree on heat-dashboard should be a cross two team maintain project, but appears horizon team cores didn't get the approve right08:26
ramishrathat's the problem with guys starting projects and abandoning them in a few cycles and priorities change08:26
ricolinramishra, it's consider a sub-team08:27
ricolinramishra, true08:27
ramishraricolin: heat cores never had +2 on that project, so I don't know the governance aspects08:27
ricolinramishra, actually we have08:28
zanebI think we did have +2 for a while, but I don't any more08:28
ricolinor it's just me?08:28
zanebricolin: maybe just you :)08:28
zanebI remember approving some (boring, Zuul-related) patches, but now I can't. which is actually fine with me ;)08:29
ramishraI don't have time to work on that. so I'm fine with whoever want's to takeover;)08:29
ricolinI think heat-dashboard is still a sub project with separate cores, we just need people to take it08:30
e0nelooks like heat-core and heat-dashboard-core are totally different groups: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1844,members08:30
e0neyou ca add heat-core group to heat-dashboard-core team08:30
ricolinI'm trying to convince people from my company to join(we got some heat-dashboard product)08:30
ricoline0ne, it is meant to be different08:31
e0nericolin: sure, I mean that technically it's possible08:31
ricoline0ne, I added you in now08:32
e0nericolin: thank you, Rico!08:32
ricoline0ne, you can add other horizon cores by yourself now08:32
ricolinI think08:32
e0nericolin: I won't do it without horizon and heat team approvals08:33
zanebfor the record, I am +1 on adding the whole horizon core team (like, we should add the group not the individual members)08:33
e0neI'll discuss it with horizon team08:34
e0neIMO, it's reasonable in case if we need to fix some critical or blocker issue08:34
ricoline0ne, +1 on have all horizon cores in as well08:34
ricoline0ne, sure08:35
asmitazaneb08:35
asmitaSorry08:35
ricolinzaneb, ramishra regarding heat-stein-target, I create a working list now (looks faster than a board)08:36
ricolinhttps://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/worklist/56308:36
asmitazaneb: Hi.Review request for patch[1] and patch[2]. [1]: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580943/ and [2]:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583429.Thank you.08:36
ricolinAny Story with tag `heat-stein-target` will be in that working list08:36
ricolinI'm currently tagging08:36
zanebricolin: cool, thanks for that!08:38
zanebmaybe we can tag https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002085 for asmita :)08:38
ricolinwe should for sure08:38
ricolindone08:39
ricolinAlso the personality property is not working for OS::Nova::Server anymore08:42
ricolinit been moved to higher nova micro version and mark as deprecated now08:42
ricolinIt will failed if we don't add nova version >2.56 support here08:44
ricolinSince it's already deprecated in Nova, I propose we should directly mark it as Hidden and fail that property when validate stage08:45
ricolinzaneb, ramishra ^^^08:45
zanebis that a thing we've implemented for properties?08:46
ramishraricolin: I think we should add a config option to limit the max microversion for clients08:46
ramishraprossibly that way It would be easier then for people to keep using old features as long as they want, but the new features with new microversion won't work, but it's little tricky I guess08:48
ricolinzaneb, https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/openstack/nova/server.py#L57808:48
ricolinhere is the story https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200418808:49
ricolinand appears it's suggest to use user_data instead,08:50
ricolinhttps://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/queens/implemented/deprecate-file-injection.html#alternatives08:50
zanebricolin: I mean have we implemented a thing where we can mark a property as HIDDEN and it will fail validation but continue to work for existing resources?08:50
zanebI know we did that for resources08:50
ricolinzaneb, not that I can remember08:50
zanebwe may have done it for properties as well, but if we did, I didn't know about it08:51
ricolinzaneb, I'm talking about actually add check in validate()08:51
ricolinI mean a check to see if personality is provided or not08:51
zanebthat seems like an adequate hack08:52
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Hidden property `personality` and mark it as invalid  https://review.openstack.org/63657208:57
ricolinzaneb, ramishra ^^^08:57
zanebthat's why you went quiet :D08:58
ricolinzaneb, lol08:58
ramishrazaneb: where is the check for resource to make it work for old and fail for new resources ?08:58
ramishraI mean HIDDEN resource plugins08:59
zanebramishra: we don't call validate() on existing resources as far as I recall08:59
zaneboh08:59
zanebactually, it doesn't ever fail. because we forgot to implement that bit, where it should fail for creating new resources09:00
ramishrazaneb: yeah that was my understanding09:01
zanebyep, you are correct09:01
ramishraanyway, my point is we need a better way to handle these microversions related feature removal09:01
ramishrafrom nova and other projects09:01
zanebin my head we did it right, but in reality we half-assed it ;)09:01
ricolinramishra, indeed09:02
ramishrawe discussed this before, but I never found time to work on it09:02
ricolinMaybe we should create a story for that09:04
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ricolincan anyone please kindly help me to review multi-cloud patches again, thx09:08
ricolinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/multiple-cloud-support09:08
ramishraricolin: yeah, we've plenty of stories but not many to work on those;)09:08
ramishraand review09:09
ricolinramishra, we can tag that story with stein target tag and work our self to dead for it:)09:10
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ramishraricolin: sorry for being sarcastic, yeah we can surely try to fix it this cycle09:12
ricolinramishra, only if we all agree that's the must do thing of course09:13
ricolinramishra, zaneb sorry guys but I must go now, will be back soon09:13
zanebI share your scepticism of creating stories that are never going to get implemented, but that one might actually make a good low-hanging-fruit bug to mentor someone on, if anyone happened to show up looking for mentoring09:14
ricoline0ne, asmita , I will keep review your patch as soon as I'm back09:14
zanebricolin: thanks! see you later09:14
zanebby which I mean tomorrow09:15
ramishrabye guys, ttyl09:15
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e0nericolin: thanks!09:18
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openstackgerritLudovic Logiou proposed openstack/heat master: Translate tenant_id to project_id in Octavia loadbalancer resource  https://review.openstack.org/62559713:15
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openstackgerritJason NEatherway proposed openstack/heat master: Support Neutron L2Gateway resource  https://review.openstack.org/57322815:55
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