Wednesday, 2018-07-25

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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Delete snapshots using contemporary resources  https://review.openstack.org/58557100:01
openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Eliminate client race condition in convergence delete  https://review.openstack.org/58557200:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Retry resource creation on conflict  https://review.openstack.org/53770900:41
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hongbinricolin: hi04:58
hongbinricolin: would you be able to get back to https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:zun ? if possible, we want to merge these two patches as part of the Rocky release04:59
hongbinricolin: thanks in advance05:00
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ricolinhongbin, sure:)05:00
ricolinhogepodge, already list them as target for heat review this week, hope that will get more attention05:02
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vishakharicolin, Can you pls review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582448/06:53
vishakhaand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/583188/06:53
vishakharicolin, thanks in advance :)06:53
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed openstack/heat master: Improve resource types list rendering  https://review.openstack.org/58497507:47
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openstackgerritJason NEatherway proposed openstack/heat master: Support Neutron Layer-2 Gateway resource  https://review.openstack.org/57322812:45
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therveramishra: Got a question for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551871/ if you're still around13:40
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ramishratherve: yep13:47
therveramishra: I was wondering about the RPC version13:47
therveYou just introduce a new version, but you don't change the function calls?13:47
therveI never remember the rules there13:47
ramishrame too, will check:)13:49
ramishratherve: yeah those need to be changed, thanks for noticing13:51
therveOK good13:51
therveramishra: Another small comment13:51
therveMaybe we could pass the list of existing files before download the containers13:51
therveSo that it doesn't download stuff and then ignore it13:52
ramishrayou mean the ones in the files map? They may have changed right?13:52
therveBut you ignore those already present in the request?13:53
therveYou get all the files, and then new_files.update(files)13:53
ramishraDo I still, I thought I chnaged it13:53
thervehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/551871/12/heat/engine/clients/os/swift.py13:54
therveI don't see any filtering here13:54
ramishraok, those files are from the client13:54
ramishranot the ones in the map, normally they would just user env files, probaly not in swift13:54
therveAh you don't expect any overlap?13:55
ramishratherve: I assumed it to be like that, if the files are in swift and not changed by the user why would the user provide them again13:56
therveramishra: What if they are changed by the user?13:57
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ramishradb files-> swift files -> user files, that's order of precedence. we may fine tune it based on the usage later, I'm not very happy with downloading all files from the container:)13:58
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therveHum ok I'm not sure why it's the answer to my question :)13:59
therveBut anyway it's a minor optimization14:00
ramishraI mean user files overrides the ones in swift, if at all they are provided by the user with -e option again. I see your point about why download the old file again, but user would probably not use diff versions of files in  swift and with -e option14:02
ricolinramishra, therve zaneb I only got one stuff to talk about `heat m3, client release - feature freeze`14:02
ricolinyou guys like to talk in meeting or we can skip the meeting and just talk?14:03
therveIs that one thing? :)14:03
therveYes do the meeting to log it14:03
ricolintherve, one big thing:)14:03
ricolin#startmeeting heat14:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 25 14:03:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:03
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zaneblet's do the meeting and then we'll have minutes14:03
zanebsomebody might care ;)14:03
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'14:03
ricolin#topic roll call14:03
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therveHey14:04
ramishrahi, yep, somebody may care;)14:04
zanebo/14:04
ricolin:)14:04
ricolin#topic adding items to agenda14:05
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ricolin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282018-07-25_1400_UTC.2914:05
ricolin#topic heat m3, client release - feature freeze14:07
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ricolin#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-rocky-feature-relative-patches14:07
ricolinI create this etherpad for collect features14:07
therverelative patches? :)14:07
therveIncestuous patches?14:07
ricolintherve, well, works for features:)14:08
zanebrofl14:08
thervezaneb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568961/ if you can check this one, as you -1 previously14:09
ramishraI was wondering whether we should add these new stuff so late in the cycle, some of them may be reviewed few times, but still14:09
zanebtherve: ack, will circle back14:09
therveramishra: Not all of it will land14:09
therveI think the swift stuff should14:09
zanebswift stuff seems landable14:10
ricolinI sense Vitrage resource still need more works, but rest sounds like good target if we can make them in14:10
ricolinzaneb, +114:10
ramishratherve: yeah, I need it to refactor tripleo stuff to use it14:10
zanebI haven't had a proper look at multi-cloud at all :(14:10
therveyeah multicloud sounds doubtful14:11
ricolinzaneb, please please please do review it:/14:11
zanebricolin: will try, but it has been surprisingly hard to nail down the spec so I worry about more surprises14:13
zanebblazar resources seems doable, although I haven't looked at them at all14:14
ramishraI don't think Blazar and Vitrage resources can make it either, not sure if there are enough users of them14:14
ricolinFor Hidden resources, I will separate Alarm resource from others since that's where we still got some discussion going, don't hope it stop rest to get in14:14
ramishraoh, I contradicted zaneb :)14:14
zanebramishra: if you've actually looked at them then you know more than I do :)14:14
therveResources are a bit less problematic *if* they are isolated14:15
thervericolin: I tried to reorder the doc a bit14:15
therveramishra: We need the client change in for swift support, no?14:16
zanebright, yeah that was my thought. as long as they don't have bad interfaces that we can never change14:16
ricolintherve, yeah, I saw that patch, we should target that one as well14:16
ramishratherve: yes, need to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551872/14:16
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therveOK that might be the most import wrt the freeze14:17
zanebricolin: btw should we be using a worklist in storyboard instead of an etherpad for this?14:17
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ramishrazaneb: +1, though I still don't yet know how to use storyboard well enough14:18
ricolinzaneb, you mean a task say `land XXX`?14:18
ricolinor tag the current stories say `rocky-feature-target`14:18
zanebricolin: yeah, you create a worklist and add all of the tasks (==patches) from the stories we want to land14:19
ricolinzaneb, sure14:19
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zanebyou may be able to do it automagically with tags. I'm not actually sure14:19
ramishraricolin: https://docs.openstack.org/infra/storyboard/gui/worklists.html14:19
ricolinIs there anymore target you guys feel like to put in this list14:19
therveNo that's already way too big :)14:20
ricolintherve, yeah... and we only got three day for this14:21
therveWe should remove the vitrage one, it arrived last week14:21
zanebI know I say this every cycle, but this cycle has gone really quick14:21
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ramishraWe did not do a lot this cycle, so it was quick;)14:22
therveblazar and zun changes have been sitting for a while, that'd be bad to push further14:23
ricolinI move vitrage out of target for this week14:23
zanebI reviewed the Zun ones14:24
zanebthey seem very landable and also very important14:24
zanebricolin: question for you here btw: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533426/21/heat/engine/resources/openstack/zun/container.py@6214:24
ricolinzaneb, actually don't know why it go from patch 20 to there...14:27
ricolinbut will leave some comment later14:27
zanebricolin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533426/17/heat/engine/resources/openstack/zun/container.py@18714:28
ricolinyes, and that's not what I wondering:)14:29
zanebok :) we can chat after if you want14:30
ricolinServerNetworkMixin bring the requirement for `NETWORK_ID` since patch 21, so that actually changed:)14:30
ricolinzaneb, sure14:31
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zanebbtw, question for everyone14:32
zanebwe agreed to allow merging patches from cores with a single +214:33
zanebbut I don't see people doing it?14:33
zanebeven for trivial patches like https://review.openstack.org/57005614:33
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zanebI ended up self-approving a bunch of stuff14:34
zanebbut I'm just curious why people don't feel confident to make use of the new policy?14:34
ramishrazaneb: I think it's probably not about being confident, it's just takes time to get used to the new policy I suppose14:35
ramishraAnd remebering it at the time of revewing stuff14:36
zanebok. consider this a reminder then :)14:36
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ricolinI try to give room before release, so I probably will do a lot this week14:36
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zanebspeaking of trivial patches https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/heat-cfntools+status:open14:38
ricolinzaneb, you actually remind me14:38
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ricolinso heat-templates gate broken14:38
ricolinI feel what we shound do it remove jobs for deprecated hooks and remove those hooks14:39
zaneb+1, it's been ages since we introduced heat-agents14:39
zanebwe're not doing anybody any favours by keeping an old copy around14:40
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ricolinI guess I will add that patch to target too14:41
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ricolinbut it's not limit for this week anyway14:42
ricolin(since heat-templates repo isn't for cycle release)14:42
ricolinOkay, any other concerns for m-3 target?14:43
zanebI think a lot of the repos we are responsible for have been lacking maintenance14:44
zanebnot heat and heatclient, but all the rest14:44
ricolinzaneb, I guess that's because neither of us care about it, so yes, we're responsible.14:46
ramishraI agree, if there are no patches or bugs we tend to ignore those repo as we don't notice failing jobs too14:46
ricolinstuff like AWS relative14:46
ricolinwe might need to go through those repo and figure out what's the health status14:48
zanebyeah, I keep meaning to do that14:49
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ricolinthat's stuff we can target after this week, or even works for PTG14:49
zanebgood idea, let's add that to our PTG list14:49
ricolinBTW who will going to PTG?14:50
ricolinzaneb, ramishra therve14:50
zanebI will, obviously14:50
ricolinzaneb, you can't run away from it!14:50
zanebI don't know that RH has decided on everyone who is going14:50
ricolinokay14:51
ricolinAlso this time ops meetup will be in PTG too14:51
ricolinwill that means more people from RH will go?14:51
zanebI gather that therve is not but hopefully ramishra will be able to make it14:51
ricolincool14:51
zanebno idea. we don't have that many ops people in RH14:51
ramishrazaneb: yeah, I've not got confirmation or a decline yet:)14:52
ricolinThinking about talk less about features, but take more times on improvement14:53
zaneb+114:53
ricolinI will generate a etherpad for PTG later14:53
zanebthere's a big backlog of bugs that haven't been properly triaged14:54
zanebI'm working on the race condition stuff we talked about at the last PTG now14:54
zanebbut starting to worry about what else is buried in storyboard14:54
ramishraAnd migration to SB did not help that cause:)14:55
zanebno :(14:55
ricolin#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/2018-Denver-PTG-Heat14:55
zanebI think the one about converting check/suspend/resume to convergence is becoming more urgent14:55
ricolinzaneb, ramishra therve ^^^14:55
zanebapparently everyone and his dog are now using 'stack check' as the all-purpose cargo-cult recovery from anything that could go wrong all of a sudden14:56
therveIt checks! Things!14:56
ramishralol14:56
ramishraIf there is any error do stack check;)14:57
zaneband now you have two errors :)14:57
therveJob security, we has it14:58
ramishraand db is now incosistent and no backup is there14:58
ramishratherve: +114:58
zanebtherve: indeed, but not in a good way14:58
therveCertainly not...14:59
ricolin#action review targeting features this week, before release m-3(end of this week)15:01
ricolin#action propose topics to PTG https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/2018-Denver-PTG-Heat15:01
ricolinlist two actions for team15:02
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ricolinand we're running out of time, so let's end meeting if nothing else from you guys15:02
zanebI added some topics15:03
ricolinthx zaneb15:03
ricolinOkay, that's all for meeting I guess, thanks all15:04
ricolin#endmeeting15:04
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zanebricolin: I know it's late but did you want to discuss https://review.openstack.org/533426 more?15:05
ricolinzaneb, sure15:07
ricolinI mean in short, I think that should be just `NETWORK_ID` like you're suggest:)15:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Ignore NotFound error in prepare_for_replace  https://review.openstack.org/58456415:08
zanebricolin: ok, cool, that's easy then :)15:09
zanebricolin: can you leave that as a comment. we just need to make sure contributors aren't hearing two opposite stories from two cores :)15:09
ricolinzaneb, yeah, for sure15:10
zanebricolin: thanks!15:10
ricolinstill got an hour for today so will do it before crash!15:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Improve resource types list rendering  https://review.openstack.org/58497515:15
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat master: Option for retrieving child templates and env files from swift  https://review.openstack.org/55187115:35
openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat master: Add API doc for files_container support  https://review.openstack.org/58310815:35
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Handle unicode in constraints  https://review.openstack.org/58579115:40
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openstackgerritNakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/heat master: Enhancements to CIDR and IP address constraints.  https://review.openstack.org/57526518:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: OS::Nova::Server: Extend addresses attr to include network  https://review.openstack.org/56896118:13
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openstackgerritJason NEatherway proposed openstack/heat master: Support Neutron Layer-2 Gateway resources  https://review.openstack.org/58589922:18
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