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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat master: Add diskimage-builder project install https://review.openstack.org/487819 | 05:28 |
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| strigazi | ricolin: hello | 07:48 |
| ricolin | strigazi, o/ | 07:49 |
| strigazi | ricolin: I think this required a release note https://github.com/openstack/heat/commit/98505288b2e12825d0cf82eab5926cf69e6970c4 | 07:49 |
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| strigazi | ricolin: When the migration became mandatory? | 07:50 |
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| strigazi | ricolin: I started seeing this after the ocata to queens upgrade | 07:50 |
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| strigazi | ricolin: do you know where I can follow it up? | 07:51 |
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| ricolin | strigazi, I think this is what you looking for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363415/ | 07:56 |
| ricolin | strigazi, Also it's happen in two release away, wondering what's the way to add release note for it:/ | 08:00 |
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| strigazi | ricolin: if you push a reno to the brach it will appear in the release notes page | 08:15 |
| ricolin | strigazi, yeah, but I guess we have to call it a bug and push it | 08:17 |
| ramishra | strigazi, ricolin: Is that data migration mandatory yet? I assume we read from old and new locations both | 08:17 |
| ricolin | strigazi, usually any fix need to go through master and all the way to the branch you like to fix, but I guess we can skip that for release note:) | 08:18 |
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| ramishra | I don't remember we deciding on forcing users to migrate the old data, that heat-manage command is for users to migrate data on their own convinience | 08:20 |
| ricolin | ramishra, we didn't mandatory ask for migrate, but we did refer to new location for both event and resource | 08:20 |
| ramishra | ricolin: yes, we write to new locations and read from both, where is the issue? | 08:20 |
| ramishra | unless I've missed something | 08:21 |
| ricolin | ramishra, just point out where we reference from the new object, there is no issue about it:) | 08:22 |
| ramishra | ricolin: it does not change any behaviour and not forcing anybody to do anything, though we can suggest users from this release it would be good to migrate. If the release note is about a new heat-manage command being available then yes, we missed that, IMO no point doing it now | 08:25 |
| piepmatz | hi, could someone please review this minor change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582131/ | 08:26 |
| ramishra | piepmatz: Done, thanks! | 08:28 |
| ricolin | ramishra, if user still considering pike is a new stuff, I think there is value for doing this, not like it means a lot, but will be nice to point out we got tools for them. | 08:28 |
| piepmatz | ramishra: thanks :) now we just need someone for the workflow label. ricolin maybe? | 08:29 |
| ricolin | piepmatz, will take review as soon as I can:) | 08:30 |
| piepmatz | ricolin: alright, thx :) | 08:30 |
| strigazi | ramishra: a stack created in ocata failed to be updated in queens | 08:35 |
| ricolin | piepmatz, LGTM, just one more comment in that patch | 08:36 |
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| ricolin | strigazi, what's the error | 08:36 |
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| strigazi | ricolin: ramishra http://paste.openstack.org/show/726164/ | 08:38 |
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| piepmatz | ricolin: ok, I'll extend the change | 08:42 |
| ramishra | strigazi: Looks similar to some recent fixes https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002643 | 08:43 |
| strigazi | ramishra: it seems that the mirgration should be strongly reccomended | 08:46 |
| ramishra | you can try https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578817/, which is backported to pike | 08:46 |
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| ramishra | strigazi: we can possibly recommend it from this cycle, but user should not have any issues without it, if there are any bugs we should fix them. | 08:49 |
| strigazi | ramishra: I try to understand what this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578817/ does | 08:50 |
| strigazi | ramishra: All magnum deployment will face this if they follow the same pattern, heat in ocata and then queens | 08:51 |
| ramishra | It just ignores the error, the error happens when deleting events and associated resource_property_data | 08:51 |
| ramishra | we can backport that to ocata | 08:51 |
| strigazi | I saw this in queens | 08:52 |
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| ramishra | yes, it's already backported to queens, the link I pasted, the error is not very reproducible, zaneb managed to track it down, so you can thank him for that | 08:53 |
| strigazi | to clarify, when heat was in ocata a user created a stack. we upgraded heat to queens and then the user tried to delete that stack, then the error poped up | 08:54 |
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| ramishra | if it's the same issue, AFAIK it can happen in any release from ocata | 08:56 |
| strigazi | it hasn't happen before | 08:56 |
| ramishra | strigazi: Is it happening everytime you delete a stack after migrating to queens? | 08:57 |
| strigazi | ramishra: no :( | 08:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Ifat Afek proposed openstack/heat master: (WIP - DO NOT MERGE) Add Vitrage template resource https://review.openstack.org/583217 | 09:00 |
| ramishra | OK, then you can use that fix and see if you see it again and raise a bug:) | 09:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Matthias Bastian proposed openstack/heat-tempest-plugin master: Use configured endpoint instead of hardcoded ones https://review.openstack.org/582131 | 10:38 |
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| zaneb | strigazi: was convergence enabled when the stack was created in Ocata? | 13:20 |
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| strigazi | zaneb: yes | 13:34 |
| zaneb | that's concerning. in theory this issue should only affect stacks that were originally created (and at some point updated) with convergence disabled | 13:49 |
| zaneb | the workaround will work around it in any event though | 13:50 |
| ricolin | #startmeeting heat | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 18 14:00:26 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 14:00 |
| ricolin | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:00 | |
| ramishra | hi | 14:00 |
| ricolin | o/ | 14:00 |
| ricolin | zaneb, meeting time | 14:01 |
| zaneb | o/ | 14:03 |
| ricolin | there you are!:) | 14:03 |
| ifat_afek | Hi | 14:03 |
| ricolin | ifat_afek, hi | 14:04 |
| ricolin | #topic adding items to agenda | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "adding items to agenda (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:04 | |
| ricolin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282018-07-18_1400_UTC.29 | 14:04 |
| ramishra | ricolin: I've to leave early, the agenda looks pretty big:) | 14:05 |
| ricolin | ramishra, NP, you have to go, you have to go:) | 14:06 |
| ricolin | maybe have little time we can talk about SSL first? | 14:06 |
| ricolin | ramishra, | 14:07 |
| ramishra | sure, I think therve was of the opinion we don't need that, just ask everyone to install CA certs on heat engines | 14:08 |
| ricolin | #topic SSL option in Remote Stack | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SSL option in Remote Stack (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:08 | |
| ricolin | ramishra, zaneb so I update a version of idea on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480923 | 14:09 |
| ricolin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480923 | 14:09 |
| ricolin | basically use config to define what files we allows to import | 14:09 |
| ricolin | will that be acceptable way | 14:10 |
| zaneb | that's not interoperable | 14:10 |
| zaneb | although I guess region names are cloud-specific anyway | 14:10 |
| zaneb | but in any event it doesn't help at all with the multi-cloud case | 14:11 |
| ricolin | For multi-cloud we can actually put ssl options into credential | 14:11 |
| ramishra | I this case The user needs to know the file names, why not just the operator configures it for provider/region combination and it's picked up automatically? | 14:12 |
| ramishra | As I proposed earlier | 14:13 |
| ricolin | ramishra, we can approach that by reading from clouds.yaml, will that works for you? | 14:13 |
| zaneb | I doubt private cloud operators are going to provide a custom clouds.yaml that includes their own region info | 14:14 |
| ramishra | ricolin: I don't know. IMO if we're keeping a list of cert locations in config, then better have them per provider/region so, the user does not have to do anything | 14:15 |
| ricolin | zaneb, they're not going to provide such info for config as well | 14:15 |
| zaneb | ricolin: probably not, and they're probably not going to provide a whitelist and cert files either | 14:16 |
| ricolin | ramishra, that will work | 14:16 |
| ricolin | zaneb, but I think that's up to environment. Will be better if we can try to solve that, but if we can't figure out better idea, a map in config sounds like a plan to me | 14:18 |
| ricolin | Or we can try harder to document things and skip this issue and leave it to user for now | 14:19 |
| ricolin | these are two ways I can think of on how we approach this | 14:20 |
| zaneb | the main thing I care about it multi-cloud, and not having a different interface for multi-cloud vs. multi-region | 14:20 |
| zaneb | if we can have no interface at all for multi-region, that's ok with me | 14:21 |
| zaneb | having different CAs for different regions sounds kind of crazy to me anyway | 14:22 |
| ricolin | zaneb, we can get ssl options from credential like the format here https://docs.openstack.org/os-client-config/latest/user/configuration.html#ssl-settings | 14:23 |
| ricolin | in that way we don't need any new property at all, but we still need the config(or something heat managable) | 14:24 |
| zaneb | ricolin: we can't because again, those are just local filenames | 14:24 |
| ricolin | zaneb, I guess I can at least put something in document for user, before we can fine a way to do it(which we all agree on) | 14:26 |
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| zaneb | maybe we should get the user to store the CA keys in barbican as separate secrets | 14:27 |
| ricolin | zaneb, we still need it as a `file` before we give the file name to client | 14:28 |
| ricolin | for now ssl option only allow file_name as input:/ | 14:28 |
| zaneb | we can use a tempfile. I don't think that's a big deal | 14:29 |
| zaneb | or a FIFO even | 14:29 |
| ricolin | zaneb, I was thinking about that, but what about the security about that file | 14:29 |
| ricolin | do we care about that? | 14:30 |
| zaneb | only really an issue for the private key one, but it's a fair point. FIFO (named pipe) would be secure I think | 14:30 |
| ricolin | ramishra, what you think | 14:31 |
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| zaneb | it is an annoying API for the clients though | 14:32 |
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| zaneb | we should probably look in to fixing that | 14:32 |
| ricolin | zaneb, yes we should | 14:32 |
| zaneb | would be nice to at least be able to pass e.g. a StringIO object | 14:32 |
| ricolin | or a secret?:) | 14:33 |
| zaneb | as long as Barbican is optional I don't think we want to bake it in to all of the clients | 14:34 |
| ramishra | sounds good, if we can change that interface then users can use get_file | 14:34 |
| ricolin | This gonna take more discussion | 14:35 |
| ricolin | maybe start with a ML | 14:35 |
| ricolin | and fallow with a PTG session | 14:35 |
| ricolin | anyone interested in the ML?:) | 14:35 |
| ricolin | or we can just change it with small code? | 14:37 |
| ricolin | I will look into it, welcome anyone join | 14:37 |
| ricolin | let's move on, | 14:38 |
| ricolin | #topic Hidden Aodh::Alarm resource https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580963/2/etc/heat/environment.d/default.yaml | 14:38 |
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| ricolin | So Alarm has been deprecated, and now we should try to hide it | 14:39 |
| ricolin | for what I concern, what we gonna deal with those resources depends on that resource type | 14:39 |
| ricolin | which their is a bunch under https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580963/2/etc/heat/environment.d/default.yaml | 14:40 |
| zaneb | wait, the resource registry _is_ hidden isn't it? do any of those resources show up in the API/docs? | 14:40 |
| ricolin | zaneb, I don't know actually:) | 14:41 |
| zaneb | OS::Quantum* doesn't afaik | 14:41 |
| ricolin | cool, so I think we can just remove them all!? | 14:42 |
| ramishra | or map them to GnocchiAggregationByResourcesAlarm? | 14:43 |
| zaneb | no, just leave them all I thought | 14:43 |
| ricolin | ramishra, it can't directly map to | 14:43 |
| ramishra | yeah, the resources would be replaced, but that should be ok, no | 14:44 |
| ricolin | ramishra, AWS::CloudWatch::Alarm also require Alarm too | 14:44 |
| ricolin | but which is a template contain Aodh::Alarm | 14:45 |
| ricolin | #link https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/etc/heat/templates/AWS_CloudWatch_Alarm.yaml#L63 | 14:46 |
| zaneb | so change the template? | 14:46 |
| ricolin | zaneb, if that gonna match behavior of `AWS_CloudWatch_Alarm` in AWS? | 14:47 |
| zaneb | probably no worse than it does now ;) | 14:48 |
| ricolin | at least the parameters doesn't look compatible | 14:48 |
| ramishra | I mean there is no ceilometer anymore, so we else we can do:) | 14:49 |
| zaneb | it's a template. there is a yaql function ;) | 14:49 |
| ramishra | IMO, Just drop those resources and mappings:) | 14:50 |
| ricolin | ramishra, +1 on that | 14:50 |
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| ricolin | Time's running let's move on, we shall keep talking in that patch I guess | 14:52 |
| ricolin | #topic Keypair resource in Stack | 14:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keypair resource in Stack (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:52 | |
| ricolin | Keypair is binding with user and only that user can use/saw that keypair, if we update Stack with another user, resources depends on that resource might get error | 14:52 |
| zaneb | urg | 14:53 |
| ricolin | ramishra, zaneb ideas on that? | 14:53 |
| ricolin | I think we can do replace when different user | 14:53 |
| zaneb | so if the keypair is created with a public key, then easy(-ish) fix is just to add it for the new user as well | 14:54 |
| ricolin | zaneb, yeah, that's the only workaround I know for now | 14:54 |
| ricolin | actually it's just keypair name we need to consist with | 14:55 |
| zaneb | if the keypair generates a private key itself, then I don't know how best to handle it | 14:55 |
| ramishra | ricolin: replacing the key would replace the server resources, would that be acceptable? | 14:55 |
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| zaneb | this really is a bad API. I don't know why they chose to make it inconsistent with everything else in Nova | 14:55 |
| ricolin | ramishra, not sure, but that's one way in my mind | 14:56 |
| ramishra | deprecate that resource;) | 14:56 |
| ricolin | ramishra, LOL | 14:56 |
| ricolin | we can at least give a Known issue for release note | 14:56 |
| ricolin | but wondering what will be the best way we can take from here | 14:57 |
| zaneb | I don't think replace is the right thing, because we won't be changing the creator of any existing servers | 14:58 |
| ricolin | zaneb, okay | 14:58 |
| zaneb | but any new servers will be created with the new owner (and thus need access to they keypair under that user) | 14:58 |
| zaneb | so we really need one keypair for each user who has ever touched the stack | 14:59 |
| ricolin | zaneb, I guess that means nice releasenote | 14:59 |
| zaneb | lol | 14:59 |
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| ricolin | Okay, running out of time | 15:00 |
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| ricolin | just two more things | 15:00 |
| ricolin | I'm gonna release heatclient today | 15:00 |
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| ricolin | and please review multicloud patch:) | 15:01 |
| ricolin | Also we for now remove monasca unittests | 15:01 |
| ricolin | will revert it once that monasca issue fixed | 15:02 |
| ricolin | Anything else? | 15:02 |
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| ricolin | Okay thanks zaneb ramishra | 15:03 |
| ricolin | #endmeeting | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Heat Team (logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23heat/)" | 15:04 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 18 15:04:02 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2018/heat.2018-07-18-14.00.html | 15:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2018/heat.2018-07-18-14.00.txt | 15:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2018/heat.2018-07-18-14.00.log.html | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed openstack/heat master: [DNM] Test neutron change https://review.openstack.org/583693 | 18:27 |
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| hongbin | zaneb: hi, wonder if you have a chance to get back to this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533426/ , sorry for pinging you again, but the FF is approaching and we want to get it merged before the FF, it is also because we need some padding to address potential feedback if it incurs a significant amount of work | 18:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat-cfntools master: Python3: Don't use cmp() function https://review.openstack.org/583730 | 20:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat-cfntools master: Fix pep8 errors with later versions of hacking https://review.openstack.org/583731 | 20:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat-cfntools master: Fix pep8 errors with later versions of hacking https://review.openstack.org/583731 | 21:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat-cfntools master: Add tox python3 overrides https://review.openstack.org/573798 | 21:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat-cfntools master: Modernise requirements https://review.openstack.org/583741 | 21:05 |
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