Wednesday, 2018-06-27

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openstackgerritNakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/heat master: Enhancements to CIDR and IP address constraints.  https://review.openstack.org/57526500:34
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Purge events that cross-reference with backup stack  https://review.openstack.org/57789100:59
openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: DNM: Test purging events  https://review.openstack.org/57743200:59
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openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: DNM: Test purging events  https://review.openstack.org/57743202:42
openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Don't re-use resource-properties-data in backup stacks  https://review.openstack.org/57825302:42
openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Rename poorly named function  https://review.openstack.org/57825402:45
openstackgerritZane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Fix an exception message  https://review.openstack.org/57825502:45
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openstackgerritVu Cong Tuan proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Add py36 testenv  https://review.openstack.org/57826604:06
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openstackgerritXinni Ge proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Replace embedded static files with XStatic-*  https://review.openstack.org/55128808:32
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat-specs master: Add multiple OpenStack cloud support  https://review.openstack.org/57836312:01
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ltomasboping zaneb12:32
ltomasbozaneb, it is normal that if we deleted some of the resources (lbaas) the heat stack cannot be removed due to not being able to find those? http://paste.openstack.org/show/724395/12:33
ltomasbozaneb, that usually does not happen for other type of resources (like ports, subnets, instances...)12:34
ltomasbobnemec, ^^12:34
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ramishraltomasbo: you're probably hitting https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/174783612:50
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ltomasbothanks ramishra!13:16
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dmelladoltomasbo: you here as well? xD13:50
ltomasbodmellado, :D13:50
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Add Stack Credential DB  https://review.openstack.org/57839013:54
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Add Stack Credential Object  https://review.openstack.org/57839113:54
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Support check replace stack credential  https://review.openstack.org/57839213:54
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Support remote stack from another OpenStack provider  https://review.openstack.org/57839313:54
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Add document for Multi OpenStack Cloud support  https://review.openstack.org/57839413:54
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ricolin#startmeeting heat14:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 27 14:01:13 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'14:01
ramishrahi14:01
ricolinramishra, o/14:01
zanebo/14:02
ricolin#topic adding items to agenda14:02
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ricolin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282018-06-27_1400_UTC.2914:02
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ricolinAny topic you guys like to discuss?14:03
kazsho/14:03
ricolinkazsh, hi14:03
ricolin#topic Multi-Cloud https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/multiple-cloud-support+(status:open+OR+status:merged)14:05
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ricolinramishra, zaneb I upload the multicloud works earlier14:05
ricolinalso the spec too14:06
ramishraricolin: will take a look14:06
ricolinstill need to add unit test and functional test14:06
ricolinbut would be great if guys can talk a look14:06
ricolinramishra, thx14:06
ricolintricky to parse around credential:)14:07
ramishrazaneb:  I was wondering if we should merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480923  or wait for the multicloud thing to be implemened with ssl options in barbican?14:08
zanebadded it to my list14:08
zanebramishra: yeah, that's a good question14:08
zanebI think we need to figure out an interface that works for both14:08
ramishraprobably we can land it, been in review for long time though14:09
ricolindon't see much conflict on both, but I can depend on ssl one since that will be more secure14:09
ramishranot sure if we would complete the multicloud thing this release, though zaneb can surely surprise us:)14:10
zanebramishra: clearly you have not seen my to-do list ;)14:11
ricolinramishra, I would like to see if we can really make it happen:)14:11
ricolinzaneb, and where is it:)14:11
zanebit would be cool if we can do it. that's definitely the thing that is going to generate the most excitement from outside the project14:12
ricolinzaneb, API Broker too IMO14:12
zanebthat's a separate project though14:12
zaneband also something on my to-do list14:13
ricolinzaneb, No, I mean API Broker resource in heat(Not sure if we want to do it, but it;s cool:))14:13
zaneboh, right14:13
zanebyeah, that's also cool and definitely not happening in this release ;)14:13
ricolinI'm going to work on Vitrage resource later once I put tests for multicloud on:)14:14
zanebricolin: btw I just re-reviewed https://review.openstack.org/541558 (that ltomasbo was asking about earlier)14:15
ricolinzaneb, okay will update it right after meeting14:15
zanebricolin: the main thing it needs is a test14:16
ramishrazaneb, ricolin We've similar issue with L7Rule resource. may be that can be fixed too, separate patch would be fine too.14:16
ricolinzaneb, I can't remember why I didn't add unit test, but will recheck again14:16
ramishraI was about to comment on the review and then forgot14:16
ricolinWhat else needs to discuss?14:18
ramishraI've something to discuss..14:18
ramishrahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/551871/6/heat/common/config.py, I've added a new config option14:19
ramishratherve thinks we should use https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/common/wsgi.py#L211 for it14:20
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ramishraIMO, it can be confusing as it's used wrt heat vs swift download limit, but would mean the samething in the context of what we're doing14:21
ramishraWanted to know what others think14:21
zanebI guess the advantage of therve's approach would be that the limit is the same no matter how you use Heat14:22
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zanebso you couldn't e.g. end up with something that was working in Swift and then you download the templates locally and try it from there and suddenly it breaks14:23
ramishrayeah, it's for different services and swift does not have any download limit per se14:23
ricolinramishra, so why can't we set unlimit default?14:23
thervericolin: We load the files in memory14:24
zanebricolin: because we don't want to load infinity bytes into Heat's RAM14:24
ramishrazaneb: ok, that probably is a good reason14:24
ramishraI mean trying from locally that works when they are in swift14:24
zanebramishra: yeah, at the very least that's a good reason to set the defaults to the same thing14:25
zaneband arguably they could just use the same config option14:25
ramishraI thought it can be confusing when someone tries to see that error and then look for the config14:25
ramishrait may be intuitive for the devs but not for the users14:26
ramishraI mean operators14:27
ramishraBut I'm ok either way14:27
zanebthe option is not in any group, right?14:28
ricolinI think it's fine to use max_json_body_size since that's the buggest size we gonna accept anyway14:28
ramishrayep14:29
ricolinzaneb, in `Default` I think14:29
zanebI think it's fine to reuse that one then14:29
ricolinwe can also set overwrite conf if we like14:29
ricolinlike when swift_objects_download_limit > max_json_body_size we reset swift_objects_download_limit14:30
zanebricolin: let's not though ;)14:31
ramishraOK, but I still think from user point of view it would be confusing when they see an error  the stack action failed due to that limit when downloading from swift, but anyway I'll change14:31
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ricolinramishra, can we get size before we download it?14:32
ramishraricolin: yes, check that patch:)14:32
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ricolinramishra, then user won't fail during downloading right?:)14:33
zanebtechnically its still the body regardless of whether we're uploading or downloading ;)14:33
ricolinthey fail before it:)14:33
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zanebricolin: ramishra's point is that it'll fail when sending in a very small request, complaining that the request size is too big14:34
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zanebI think we'll need to make sure there's different error messages14:35
zanebbut I don't see an obstacle to using the same config option to set the limit14:35
ricolinzaneb, yeah we need good message to show that14:35
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ricolinAnything else?:)14:37
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ramishraOK we can add another exception type rather than ta config, not use RequestLimitExceeded:)14:38
zaneb+114:38
ricolinramishra, +1 on that!14:38
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ricolinOkay, if nothing to put on, we can close meeting now14:41
ricolinOkay14:43
ricolinplease please please help to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578363/ :)14:43
ricolinmulticloud spec14:43
zanebricolin: btw question for you: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23heat/%23heat.2018-06-26.log.html#t2018-06-26T13:23:1114:43
ricolinzaneb, you hit that in Master?14:46
ricolinWe did have some period to keep pop those error message out to log during very first introduce policy in code to heat14:47
ricolinin a single milestone14:48
ramishrahttp://logs.openstack.org/53/578253/1/check/heat-functional-orig-mysql-lbaasv2/253251f/logs/screen-h-eng.txt.gz#_Jun_27_03_36_07_82755114:48
zanebricolin: yes, I'm seeing that in the gate14:48
zanebthe policy logs are too chatty, and that's easy enough to fix14:49
ricolin(keep loading logs...)14:49
ricolinzaneb, okay, will find it and take a look14:50
zanebbut the fact that we're also seeing "Fetching data from file:///etc/heat/templates/AWS_RDS_DBInstance.yaml" in there suggests something else is happening, like we're reloading the global environment all the time14:50
ricolinramishra, zaneb so those just information log right14:52
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zanebin that link that ramishra posted it's still doing it 14 minutes after the test started. I'd expect to see the global env loaded only once per worker at startup14:53
ricolinzaneb, might be14:55
ramishraricolin: yeah, it seems to be checking the policy far too often, which probably means something is wrong14:55
zanebthat's my concern, yeah14:57
ricolinAnyway, let's keep trace on that14:59
ramishraricolin: we can probably raise a bug and do the investigation later, meeting time alomost over14:59
ricolinramishra, +114:59
zaneb+115:00
ricolinlet's end meeting now, if nothing to discuss before keep working15:00
ricolin#endmeeting15:01
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thervezaneb: I remember caching the policy before15:05
therveMaybe it got broken by the policy in code15:05
therveOr maybe I only cached some of it15:08
thervezaneb: It's the resource_types API15:13
therveIt calls Environment.get_types15:13
therveWhich creates a ResourceEnforcer15:13
therveWhich does that15:13
zanebah, ok15:14
zanebtherve: why is it loading templates from the global environment though?15:14
zanebthat seems like overkill for listing types15:15
zanebfor the ResourceEnforcer thing we can just get rid of the log messages (I have a patch for that somewhere I think)15:16
therveLet's see15:17
ricolinzaneb, yeah, those just INFO, so move it or remove it will be fine15:17
zanebricolin: ack, I'll clean up that patch and submit it15:17
thervezaneb: So it must be done by TemplateResource15:18
therveIn TemplateResourceInfo we call get_class which calls taht15:19
therveWe need get_class for support status, version and stuff15:20
therveNow, that should probably be cached somewhere15:20
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zanebricolin: reviewed your spec17:44
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Check NotFound with pool property in pool member  https://review.openstack.org/54155817:47
ricolinzaneb, ^^^17:48
zanebricolin: you should be asleep17:48
ricolinzaneb, I should!17:49
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat-specs master: Add multiple OpenStack cloud support  https://review.openstack.org/57836318:23
openstackgerritNakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/heat master: Re-calculate outputs at the end of a stack-update.  https://review.openstack.org/57693618:23
ricolinzaneb, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57836318:23
ricolinzaneb, Maybe we can also allow access cloud provider info from local barbican secret?18:24
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openstackgerritNakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/heat master: Translation validation of older properties fails  https://review.openstack.org/57856021:10
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openstackgerritNakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/heat master: Enhancements to CIDR and IP address constraints.  https://review.openstack.org/57526521:34
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openstackgerritNakul Dahiwade proposed openstack/heat master: delete_trust failure will not block a stack delete  https://review.openstack.org/57665923:42

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