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openstackgerrit | chenyb4 proposed openstack/heat master: Replace create_a_stack doc stack uuid and timestamp https://review.openstack.org/560245 | 03:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat master: remove mox usage from test_subscription https://review.openstack.org/552091 | 03:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat master: DNM test https://review.openstack.org/560287 | 07:04 |
therve | ricolin, ^^ for the oslo review | 07:04 |
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ricolin | therve, thx | 07:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Vu Cong Tuan proposed openstack/python-heatclient master: Use assertRegex instead of assertRegexpMatches https://review.openstack.org/516904 | 07:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Wang Bo proposed openstack/heat master: Add qos_policy property to floatingip resource https://review.openstack.org/560327 | 09:26 |
openstackgerrit | Wang Bo proposed openstack/heat master: Add qos_policy property to floatingip resource https://review.openstack.org/560327 | 09:28 |
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Sharmistha | Hi | 13:12 |
Sharmistha | can we have additional parameters as mentioned in nest_1.yaml | 13:14 |
Sharmistha | http://paste.openstack.org/show/718930/ | 13:14 |
Sharmistha | net_name is present in nest_1.yaml but it is not mentioned in main.yaml | 13:14 |
therve | Sharmistha, You have a default so it doesn't need to be mentioned | 13:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Increment resource atomic key when storing attributes https://review.openstack.org/560417 | 13:23 |
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Sharmistha | if default value is removed ? | 13:36 |
therve | If default value is remove you'll have to pass it | 13:37 |
Sharmistha | pass it in main template or in heat stack-create command ? | 13:43 |
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therve | Well, both if you want | 13:47 |
therve | In the main template first though | 13:47 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Merge before/after 'requires' list on update failure https://review.openstack.org/486267 | 13:51 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Don't pass input_data to Resource.delete_convergence() https://review.openstack.org/486268 | 13:51 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Calculate the requires list in check_resource https://review.openstack.org/486269 | 13:51 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Create replacement resources with correct requires https://review.openstack.org/486270 | 13:51 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Make resource requires a set instead of a list https://review.openstack.org/486271 | 13:51 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Avoid double-write when updating FAILED rsrc with no change https://review.openstack.org/560427 | 13:51 |
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ricolin | #startmeeting heat | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 11 14:00:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 14:00 |
ricolin | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:00 | |
zaneb | o/ | 14:01 |
ricolin | o/ | 14:01 |
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therve | Hi | 14:03 |
ricolin | #topic Moving trademark tests to new repo | 14:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Moving trademark tests to new repo (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:04 | |
zaneb | so the governance review was approved by the TC | 14:04 |
zaneb | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180307-trademark-program-test-location.html | 14:05 |
ricolin | the scope should be what's in current interop tests right? | 14:05 |
zaneb | ricolin: yes, it's whatever is approved by the board | 14:06 |
zaneb | we also have some pending patches that probably need to be merged | 14:06 |
zaneb | #link https://review.openstack.org/550667 | 14:06 |
zaneb | #link https://review.openstack.org/559803 | 14:06 |
zaneb | actually all of https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/heat-tempest-plugin+status:open would be nice :) | 14:07 |
ricolin | agree, we should merged those API relative one at least | 14:08 |
ricolin | before separate | 14:08 |
zaneb | ricolin: could you check with the interop team whether they want to be the repo owners, and then go ahead a submit a review to create the repo? | 14:08 |
ricolin | zaneb, sure, I try to ping down refstack cores today, but got bad luck | 14:08 |
zaneb | cool, thanks | 14:09 |
ricolin | will confirm ownership with them | 14:09 |
zaneb | that's probably all we need to discuss for now then | 14:09 |
ricolin | I pretty much sure hogepodge don't want to own the tests | 14:10 |
ricolin | and by giving the owner ship to refstack, means it is out of TC governance | 14:11 |
zaneb | ok, we can just create it under our governance then | 14:11 |
zaneb | just need to make sure that refstack and QA core teams are also core in gerrit for that repo | 14:12 |
ricolin | Also what's the CI job will looks like after the separate | 14:12 |
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ricolin | zaneb, yeah, that's for sure | 14:12 |
zaneb | I think we'll run tests from both plugins in the gate | 14:12 |
zaneb | and once that's set up then we can think about removing the duplicate tests from heat-tempest-plugin | 14:12 |
ricolin | how about cross test in interop-test repo? | 14:13 |
zaneb | yeah, it will need to gate against old branches | 14:15 |
ricolin | zaneb, cool | 14:15 |
zaneb | and master too, obvs ;) | 14:16 |
ricolin | zaneb, btw is this what you try to bring up last week? | 14:16 |
zaneb | ricolin: yes, I think this is what I was thinking of | 14:16 |
ricolin | zaneb, cheers! | 14:16 |
ricolin | #topic `Permit aborting loopingcall while sleeping` patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558206 | 14:16 |
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zaneb | therve tested it and +1'd already | 14:17 |
therve | Yup | 14:17 |
zaneb | #link https://review.openstack.org/560287 | 14:17 |
ricolin | cool, just try to make sure with you guys if there're other consideration | 14:17 |
zaneb | I don't understand the change at all ;) | 14:18 |
ricolin | before I reply with positive answer to that ML | 14:18 |
zaneb | commit msg seems to indicate it's something to do with unit tests, so if unit tests pass then I say ship it | 14:19 |
ricolin | +1ed | 14:20 |
ricolin | #topic Task tracing | 14:20 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Task tracing (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:21 | |
ricolin | What action we got right now is separate interop repo, | 14:21 |
ricolin | I'm right now WIP for Cross Stack reference | 14:22 |
ricolin | and DB to DLM migrate is pending for a while (waiting for mox removal and for me to have time to keep working on it) | 14:23 |
ricolin | mutable config consider completed, if no one try to bring up more config to mutable(other than debug) | 14:24 |
ricolin | remove mox on the way | 14:24 |
ricolin | zaneb, thanks for review btw, I will update those patch later today | 14:25 |
zaneb | cool | 14:25 |
ricolin | Partial success for ASG still not inprogress yet | 14:25 |
ricolin | ramishra, for the progress for Swift template we got https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551871/ | 14:27 |
ricolin | zaneb, any plan for Multi-cloud support now? | 14:28 |
zaneb | we should totally do that ;) | 14:28 |
ricolin | zaneb, agree, I can help once I'm done with cross-stack ref and ETCD:) | 14:29 |
zaneb | some relevant discussion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480923/ | 14:29 |
ramishra | ricolin: hi, https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1755453+status:open, there is a heatclient patch to list all files | 14:30 |
ramishra | but it seems we want to wait for the mox-removal patches to go in before we do anything tat touches tests;) | 14:31 |
ramishra | So I'm not actively working on anything else:) | 14:31 |
therve | :/ | 14:31 |
ricolin | ramishra, yeah, we should merge those mox patch ASAP... | 14:32 |
ramishra | ricolin: the ball is in your court;) | 14:32 |
zaneb | ramishra: all of the changes are proposed, so you can just submit patches that depend on them | 14:32 |
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ramishra | zaneb: I don't want to rebase again and again | 14:33 |
ricolin | ramishra, I will update those -1 patches | 14:33 |
ricolin | today | 14:33 |
ricolin | Also how about Global Request Id support ? | 14:36 |
ricolin | anyone working on that? | 14:36 |
ricolin | that means none:) | 14:37 |
ramishra | We can do that, we're not moving the client plugins to openstacksdk this relase | 14:37 |
ramishra | but may be later in the cycle | 14:37 |
ricolin | This you mean? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ptg-rocky-heat-client-plugin-openstack-sdk | 14:37 |
ramishra | yes, I'm not sure if we plan to do that, may be I don't know the latest on that | 14:38 |
ricolin | appears we pop out with `Wait for 1.0 released, and investigate` in the PTG:), and agree with you that we can do it later in cycle | 14:40 |
ricolin | Any other task WIP? | 14:41 |
ricolin | #topic Open discussion | 14:42 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: heat)" | 14:42 | |
ricolin | Anything to discuss? | 14:42 |
ricolin | cool, thanks all for join | 14:44 |
ramishra | ricolin: can we merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550716/? | 14:44 |
ricolin | ramishra, done | 14:45 |
ricolin | I will update some mox fix later today | 14:46 |
ricolin | thanks all:) | 14:46 |
ricolin | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Heat Team (logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23heat/)" | 14:46 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 11 14:46:27 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2018/heat.2018-04-11-14.00.html | 14:46 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2018/heat.2018-04-11-14.00.txt | 14:46 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2018/heat.2018-04-11-14.00.log.html | 14:46 |
ramishra | ricolin: thanks! I think we discussed earler, we should merge the patches in heat-tempest-plugin before doing any split or new repo | 14:46 |
zaneb | ricolin: question about the exported stack outputs thing... I forget the name | 14:47 |
zaneb | ricolin: can't users already use external resources to do that? | 14:47 |
ramishra | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529480/ been there for almost 4 months | 14:47 |
* zaneb reviewed it! | 14:48 | |
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ricolin | zaneb, to use external resource, 1. we got less control over it, 2. it's only for `resource` , 3. we still needs to pass around resource id all the way from another stack(that's kind of why tripleO still needs other tools other than hot template right?) | 14:50 |
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zaneb | ricolin: I meant using an OS::Heat::Stack with an external ID and just doing get_attr to get outputs from it | 14:51 |
ricolin | assume to use export and import, we only need the export_name in another template | 14:51 |
tellesnobrega | ricolin, I'm working on a feature to allow creation of sahara clusters booting instances from volume | 14:55 |
tellesnobrega | https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/sahara-specs/specs/newton/boot-from-volume.html | 14:55 |
ricolin | zaneb, how about the update/delete policy through external resource? | 14:55 |
tellesnobrega | this is the spec I'm following (it was written a while back) | 14:55 |
ricolin | tellesnobrega, hi:) | 14:55 |
tellesnobrega | ricolin, hi :) | 14:55 |
zaneb | ricolin: I don't like the update/delete blocking idea anyway :) | 14:56 |
tellesnobrega | I just wanted to make sure that it still makes sense and also ask you the right place to add the bootale_volume resource stuff | 14:56 |
tellesnobrega | In sahara the volume resource stuff is done using file, should the bootable_volume go on that same file? should i be written directly under resources? | 14:57 |
ricolin | tellesnobrega, what you mean with ` the volume resource stuff is done using file` | 14:58 |
tellesnobrega | let me grab an example here | 14:58 |
ricolin | tellesnobrega, thx | 14:59 |
ricolin | zaneb, so we allow making relation between external resource(if that resource is a stack) with current stack | 15:00 |
ricolin | zaneb, but how we decide if resources in that external stack is update-able or not? | 15:01 |
zaneb | ricolin: I'm not sure we have to allow anything; wouldn't it just work already? that's my question really | 15:01 |
zaneb | ricolin: who cares? :) | 15:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Remove mox usage from test_api_ec2token https://review.openstack.org/558110 | 15:08 |
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tellesnobrega | ricolin, http://paste.openstack.org/show/718942/ | 15:10 |
tellesnobrega | this is taken from sahara during the template creation | 15:11 |
tellesnobrega | there are a bunch of other stuff | 15:11 |
tellesnobrega | but this should be enough to explain what I mean but file stuff | 15:11 |
tellesnobrega | if you look at the end, there is file://spark-slave-volume.yaml | 15:11 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Remove mox usage from test_api_ec2token https://review.openstack.org/558110 | 15:12 |
tellesnobrega | that is a file that has the details of volumes needed by the node group | 15:12 |
tellesnobrega | in this case we have two resources volume and volume_attachment (that I believe is responsible for linking the vm to the volume) | 15:13 |
tellesnobrega | in the boot from volume feature we need a bootable_volume resource | 15:13 |
tellesnobrega | my question is, can this be written in this volume specification file as well | 15:13 |
tellesnobrega | ? | 15:13 |
ricolin | zaneb, what I think it not in current design is the control ability to what we been referenced, for example if we reference to a network resource from another stack, and we can allow blocking delete like AWS did, that will help with stable resource dependency IMO. That sounds like the only way in OpenStack to obtain resource dependency if we can do it. Also we have to parsing around IDs or other values, to another Stack, if we can do | 15:17 |
ricolin | it with just a export name(or stack id/name with a output name) will be convenience | 15:17 |
zaneb | ricolin: to me it sounds like a giant chunk of complexity to add a feature that only 2% of users will ever touch, and does something that can already be accomplished using existing mechanisms | 15:19 |
zaneb | not planning to -2 or anything, but it sounds scary and seems unnecessary IMHO | 15:20 |
ricolin | zaneb, I do like to idea to use external_id, but if we can provide a optional way on that and said if it's a stack resource, we build a reference and block the delete will be more likely to be able to replace the export and import idea IMO | 15:23 |
therve | ricolin, Blocking the delete sound weird to me | 15:23 |
therve | We don't block deletion of resources created by heat | 15:23 |
zaneb | why does it matter if somebody updates the referenced stack? we store the attributes at the time we create the (external) resource anyway | 15:24 |
ricolin | zaneb, if we use external resource, update should be fine, but any delete of referenced resources will break the new stack for sure | 15:29 |
zaneb | will it? why would the external resource ever get updated again? | 15:30 |
ricolin | therve, to block delete is part of the design for the cross-stack reference in AWS, https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSCloudFormation/latest/UserGuide/walkthrough-crossstackref.html I'm try to figure out what's the best approach we got | 15:32 |
ricolin | tellesnobrega, if that boot from volume design is for separate files, than you can try to put it in a separate file and call that file (as a child stack) from any place you need | 15:35 |
ricolin | tellesnobrega, is that what you're asking? | 15:36 |
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ricolin | zaneb, agree the external resource won't get update/delete if ops doing well on resource management manually, but no way try to prevent such an operation when it happens(which apply to all over OpenStack services I think) | 15:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Destroy mox forever https://review.openstack.org/560476 | 15:45 |
therve | ricolin, yeah because AWS does it doesn't mean we have to | 15:51 |
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ricolin | therve, so the use case I'm trying to solve here is from a stack to reference to network resources in another stack, when the second stack is deleting, will try to avoid delete that network resource when it's still been referenced | 16:01 |
ricolin | external_id seens like a close approach if we can figure out how can we keep the reference relation, otherwise cross-stack reference is another way to do it | 16:03 |
therve | ricolin, Well yeah. What if you do openstack network delete? | 16:03 |
therve | We don't protect against that either | 16:03 |
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ricolin | therve, fair point, but in cases when user use pure heat-dashboard, directly access to osc command can actually be prevented | 16:05 |
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ricolin | therve, OpenStack don't have any layer to try to do any protection on these kind of cross-project resources referencing:/ | 16:07 |
therve | ricolin, I don't think it would provide much value | 16:07 |
therve | Treat users as grown ups | 16:08 |
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ricolin | therve, that will be harder than try to implement something IMO:) | 16:12 |
therve | No, not implementing something is always better | 16:13 |
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ricolin | therve, agree with that, I do rather trying to figure out how can I build a handy way to cover these mechanism with external_id than do it with new implementation | 16:23 |
tellesnobrega | ricolin, sorry, left for lunch. the boot from volume will probably be a different volume than the ones we attach to the instance | 16:35 |
tellesnobrega | my question is, can it be in the same file? does it have to be on separate file? can it be directly on the main stack? what is the best (most recommended way of doing it) | 16:36 |
tellesnobrega | ? | 16:36 |
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ricolin | tellesnobrega, it can be in the same file(template) and yes, it can be directly on main stack as well, if you worry about conflict for these two volume you can try to specify mountpoint in you VolumeAttachment resource | 17:16 |
tellesnobrega | ricolin, thanks | 17:17 |
tellesnobrega | I will give a try and see what comes up | 17:17 |
ricolin | tellesnobrega, cool! | 17:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Fix lower-constraints https://review.openstack.org/560577 | 18:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/heat master: uncap eventlet https://review.openstack.org/560496 | 19:20 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/heat master: fix lower constraints https://review.openstack.org/560584 | 19:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Destroy mox forever https://review.openstack.org/560476 | 20:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Destroy mox forever https://review.openstack.org/560476 | 20:11 |
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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Docs: Reorganise landing page https://review.openstack.org/552058 | 20:36 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Replace pbr autodoc with sphinxcontrib-apidoc https://review.openstack.org/558262 | 20:36 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Docs: include all useful module docs https://review.openstack.org/552059 | 20:36 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Docs: Eliminate warnings in docs generation https://review.openstack.org/553587 | 20:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Docs: use local references for internal links https://review.openstack.org/552125 | 20:46 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Docs: Fix broken external links https://review.openstack.org/552126 | 20:46 |
openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat master: Docs: modernise links https://review.openstack.org/495124 | 20:46 |
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