Wednesday, 2017-12-13

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openstackgerritHarald Jensås proposed openstack/heat master: Exclude updated networks - match actual interface state  https://review.openstack.org/47196901:42
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: [policy in code] part 6(cfn, cloudwatch)  https://review.openstack.org/50536002:59
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: [policy in code] part 7 add sample and releasenote  https://review.openstack.org/51018902:59
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kiennt26ricolin_: Could you review a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510400/?03:22
kiennt26At this time, I listed all tests in code. We are able to create a file for this, but must port it to prev branch :)03:22
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: [Test][DNM] test on gate failure issues  https://review.openstack.org/52735803:50
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ricolin_kiennt26, sure:)04:42
kiennt26ricolin_: thank you \o/04:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Don't log PolicyNotRegistered when check resource type  https://review.openstack.org/52633904:53
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: [Test][DNM] test on gate failure issues  https://review.openstack.org/52735805:09
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat-tempest-plugin master: Check update complete in test_stack_update_with_conditions  https://review.openstack.org/52759306:24
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat master: WIP Test lbaas with octavia provider  https://review.openstack.org/52732906:42
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Don't observe reality if name property is None  https://review.openstack.org/52735706:50
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat-dashboard master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/52699607:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Remove unused variable  https://review.openstack.org/43953107:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-dashboard master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/52699607:34
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/52761807:45
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openstackgerritKhaled Qarout proposed openstack/heat master: Bypass list length check for None values in repeat function  https://review.openstack.org/52700108:24
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Ignore version in releasenote doc  https://review.openstack.org/52767211:31
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Ignore version and release in releasenote conf  https://review.openstack.org/52767211:33
openstackgerritKhaled Qarout proposed openstack/heat master: Bypass list length check for None values in repeat function  https://review.openstack.org/52700111:34
openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Remove setting of version/release from releasenotes Release notes are version independent, so remove version/release values. We've found that projects now require the service package to be installed in order to build release notes, and this is entirely du  https://review.openstack.org/52767211:36
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat-agents master: Add reno for release notes management  https://review.openstack.org/52658511:40
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/python-heatclient master: Add reno for release notes management  https://review.openstack.org/52647911:43
openstackgerritHarald Jensås proposed openstack/heat master: Exclude updated networks - match actual interface state  https://review.openstack.org/47196912:02
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ricolinmeeting in 10mins feel free to add agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-12-13_1300_UTC.2912:50
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ricolin#startmeeting heat13:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 13 13:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'13:00
ricolin#topic roll call13:00
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kazsho/13:00
kiennt26o/13:00
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ricolino/13:02
therveHi13:02
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ricolin#topic adding items to agenda13:03
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ricolin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-12-06_1300_UTC.2913:03
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ramishrahi13:04
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ricolinramishra, therve, I think our release note job is broken. this should fix it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527672/13:04
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therveOK I'll  look13:05
ricolintherve, thx13:05
ricolin#topic categorize integration tests https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-integration-test-categories13:06
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ricolin#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-integration-test-categories13:06
ricolinzaneb, around?13:06
ricolinSo zaneb helps to categorize tests13:07
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ramishraI had a look, the split looks ok.  I assume we're planning to only keep the regression tests in tree?13:09
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ricolinI'm not sure the separate point13:10
ramishraThough I felt some of the tests in that category would not have regressions13:10
ricolinfirst three categorize seems like will move to plugin13:11
ricolinramishra, you mean test_cancel_update?13:11
ramishraricolin: I'm fine with zaneb's comment there13:12
ricolinalso agree with you that lbaasv1 can just removed13:14
ramishrafunctional/test_create_update.py test_delete13:14
ramishraunctional/test_delete.py13:14
ramishraI'm not sure if those tests would have any regressions. But I'm ok with split13:15
ricolinramishra, seems it only delete a simple rg13:15
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ricolinwe can comment and discuss that one in review13:17
ramishrayeah, deleting CREATE_IN_PROGRESS stack13:17
ricolinCan we just separate into two tempest plugin (in heat and in heat-tempest-plugin) and move the in repo one to other test way later(or keep use tempest)13:19
therveNo using tempest annoys people apparently13:19
ramishraricolin: we can't have an in-tree tempest plugin, that'll defeat the goal13:20
ricolintherve ramishra , so I guess revert (or partially revert) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348570/ first than13:21
therveProbably more last13:21
ricolinlet's make the patch out these two days and start review13:22
ricolinAny concerns or ideas before we start separate tests?13:23
ricolinor warning13:24
ramishrawe would have to maintain common  modules both in-tree and in heat-tempest-plugin, that can probably be problematic13:24
ramishrathey would diverge, but that may be ok I think13:25
ricolinI think we can move all common to plugin?13:25
ramishraand use plugin as a library for in-tree tests? Not sure I understand13:26
ramishraI'm not sure that would work13:27
ricolinramishra, just like you said13:27
therveramishra, Why wouldn't that work?13:28
ramishrayou've to install the tempest-plugin when installing heat and that would again be the same problem, no?13:29
therveWhy? We won't run tempest13:30
ricolinramishra, IMO that only happens if we reference heat in common lib13:30
therveThe issue would be installing heat when you install the plugin, IIUC13:30
chandankumarwhat about moving the gate tests in a seperate folder in heat-tempest-plugin and keep tempest tests in heat-tempest-plugin and re-use it in the gates?13:31
chandankumarfor example https://github.com/openstack/sahara-tests13:32
ramishrathe issue is when you install heat, if the tempest-plugin is installed(which would be the case when it's used in in-tree tests)  and it would create problems for other plugins13:32
ramishraunless the in-tree tests are in a separate package13:33
ramishraif I'm not missing anything, that's the exact reason why we can't have in-tree tempest plugin13:35
ricolinNot sure I fully understand that, but if we only use common libs in plugin that shouldn't lead to discover in-tree temest plugin13:36
ricolinconsidering that we will remove in-tree tempest plugin13:37
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ricolins/ discover in-tree temest plugin/ discover in-tree tests/13:37
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ricolinAnyway, we can do separate tests first and discuss this later13:38
ramishraricolin: you would have heat-tempest-plugin in heat requirements and installing that would be add the entry point for tempest to discover https://github.com/openstack/heat-tempest-plugin/blob/master/setup.cfg#L3113:38
ricolinramishra, so the issue you thinking about is heat-tempest-plugin might be a unwanted plugin which forced installed when install heat?13:42
ramishraricolin: I'm not thinking about it, when heat is installed and then tempest is run it would discover heat-tempest-plugin, which user never wanted and would break other project tests13:44
ramishraanyway, let's move on13:44
ramishrawe'll see when someone works on it:)13:44
ricolinramishra, yeah few more topics to go, let's discuss this later13:44
ricolin#topic grenade-multinode13:44
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kiennt26Hi o/13:44
kiennt26Regarding grenade-multinode job, I have proposed a new patchset to add some additional tests.13:45
kiennt26#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510400/13:45
kiennt26At this time, I have to list all tests in code. We could have an upgradetests file and port it to previous branch, probably.13:45
kiennt26Could you review this patch? I'm not pretty sure about the set of heat functional tests.13:45
kiennt26That's all from me, thanks.13:46
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ricolinkiennt26, so the issues we have is we're moving around tests right now so something like _write_heat_integrationtests in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510400/59/devstack/upgrade/resources.sh might needs to change later13:46
kiennt26ricolin: yeah, I understand.13:47
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ricolinkiennt26, the patch looks good to me, but unfortunately might need to wait for the test migration jobs done:(13:47
kiennt26ricolin: it's ok, thank you :)13:48
ricolinthx:)13:48
ricolinkiennt26, move on?13:48
kiennt26ricolin: Yeah13:48
ricolin#topic CI status13:48
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ricolinanyone like to host this?:)13:49
ricolinCI failure a lot for this few weeks:(13:50
ramishraricolin: Many of those are due to zuul issues and tests using fedora image.13:51
ricolinramishra, this seems works https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52735813:51
ramishraIt would probably be better to take stock of it after the zuul issues are resolved?13:51
ramishraricolin: I would probably not change m1.heat_micro flavor13:52
ramishrait's used with all tests using cirros image, we 're unnecessarliy increasing the memory usage13:53
ricolinheat_int is the main one we use for failed tests13:53
ramishraIf we think flavor memory capacity is an issue, we should use different flavor in the failing tests13:54
ricolinI like the idea therve thinking about, to use default devstack flavor13:54
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ricolins/thinking/thought/13:55
ramishraI don't know the history on why we don't use devstack standard flavors13:56
ricolinmaybe zaneb knows why:)13:56
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ricolinwill ask him later:)13:56
ricolin4mins left, move to next13:57
ricolin#topic Octavia support13:57
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therveSo we have this bug13:57
thervehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/173756713:57
openstackLaunchpad bug 1737567 in OpenStack Heat "Direct support for Octavia LBaaS API" [Medium,New]13:57
ramishraok, someone added the topic, I thought we would discuss next meeting:)13:57
therveI did13:57
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therveRegardless of how bad it is to create another API13:58
therveI'm in favor of creating new resources13:58
ramishraI've added some comments there, it seems there are some issues with neutron-lbaas13:58
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ramishraso the suggestion is to use different api calls based on the 'provider' property. But I think there would be issues when you change the provider13:59
therveYeah I don't like this idea13:59
ramishrasome objects would be in neutron-lbaas and some in octavia13:59
therveJust add new resources13:59
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ramishratherve: I've the patches to do that, I'll post them soon14:00
therveramishra, OK cool14:00
therveThat's all then :)14:00
ricolinhow about original neutron lbaas resource14:00
ricolindeprecate it?14:01
therveAt some point yeah14:01
ramishradeprecate;) we've been doing that with lbaas all the time.14:01
ricolincool14:01
ramishrabut the issue, till the octavia has the support for all drivers we can't depecate the lbaasv2 resources14:02
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therveWhy14:02
therveWe don't have to support things neutron doesn't14:02
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therveAlso we don't have to hurry to deprecate it, it doesn't really matter14:03
ramishrayeah, when neutron-lbaas is not supported, but I've been hearing that probably for some time14:03
ramishrathe api extension is not deprecated yet14:03
ricolinwe can consider to deprecate it after neutron-lbaas does14:04
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ramishrawithout proper support for existing drivers, I don't know how they would deprecate14:05
therveMaybe it won't happen14:05
ramishraIt seem the driver spec for octavia is still in discussion14:05
ricolinramishra, any target schedule for that so far?14:06
ramishraI'll do that this cycle.. may be queens-3?14:07
ricolingot it14:07
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ricolinwe already 7mins pass our time14:07
ricolinanything to discuss?14:07
ricolinOkay, thanks all for join! let's end it14:08
ricolin#endmeeting14:08
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therveThanks14:08
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thervericolin, We haven't decided to delete cloudwatch yet?14:16
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ricolintherve, no objection in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123112.html14:24
therveWe should go ahead14:24
ricolintherve, I think so too:)14:24
ricolinwhat I like to discuss in meeting is the part that how we deprecate ceilometer client:)14:25
ricolinalso maybe we should directly hidden Aodh::Alarm instead of deprecate it14:26
therveI didn't follow that14:27
ricolinso about Alarm14:28
therveWhy deprecate Alarm?14:28
ricolinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/517189/14:28
ricolinit use ceilometer API which is now removed14:28
ricolinalso ceilometer-client as well14:28
therveWhat about event alarm14:29
therveYou can't have a threshold alarm with a the gnocchi backend?14:30
ricolinfor AodhAlarm we have GnocchiAggregationByResourcesAlarm14:31
ricolindidn't notice about  OS::Aodh::EventAlarm14:32
ricolinthat one seems need to change as well14:32
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Remove setting of version/release from releasenotes  https://review.openstack.org/52767215:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat master: Remove setting of version/release from releasenotes  https://review.openstack.org/52767215:28
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Update test image  https://review.openstack.org/52774116:55
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ricolinzaneb, around?17:45
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Modify flavors for integration tests  https://review.openstack.org/52775218:03
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat-tempest-plugin master: [Test] Modify flavors for integration tests  https://review.openstack.org/52775418:09
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