Wednesday, 2017-10-04

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openstackgerritVlad Gridin proposed openstack/heat master: Remove use of auth cache directory  https://review.openstack.org/50913206:32
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ramishratherve: Hi around?07:14
therveramishra, Yup07:14
ramishraI this test_notification is broken with new oslo.messaging07:15
ramishrathink07:15
ramishrahttp://logs.openstack.org/92/507792/1/check/gate-heat-dsvm-functional-orig-mysql-lbaasv2-ubuntu-xenial/f98c1ad/console.html#_2017-10-04_06_08_05_45364707:15
ramishraProbably global requirement was bumped recently07:16
ramishraIt seems we're doing some crazy things to get the url there?07:17
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ramishraoslo_messaging.get_notification_transport().transport_url does not work either07:19
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ramishraseems to be using guest user from the defaults http://logs.openstack.org/92/507792/1/check/gate-heat-dsvm-functional-orig-mysql-lbaasv2-ubuntu-xenial/f98c1ad/logs/rabbitmq/rabbit@ubuntu-xenial-inap-mtl01-11199610.txt.gz07:22
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therveramishra, We're using conf.oslo_messaging_rabbit ?07:25
therveThat's probably deprecated/deleted07:25
ramishrayeah, it's deprecated07:25
shardytherve, ramishra: Hey I'm having another try at fixing bug #1635409 in TripleO - it means switching to using server-side environment merging but ideally I need some way to preview the merged environment (so we can warn about missing or deprecated parameters)07:27
openstackbug 1635409 in tripleo "parameter_merge_strategies: merge behaves like overwrite" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1635409 - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy)07:27
shardydo you think adding an output from preview or nested validation containing the merged environment would be reasonable?07:27
shardycurrently we just do a template validate (with nested stacks enabled), then flatten the parameters schema returned and compare it with the client-side merged environment07:28
shardyanother option is to just iterate over each environment passed to heat I guess07:28
therveshardy, I don't think you can tweak the current validation to do it07:30
therveIt'd be nice to have another validation method returning hot though07:31
shardytherve: Hmm, I thought we merged it here:07:31
shardyhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/service.py#L124607:31
shardyso in theory that data could be exposed07:31
shardyI think we need the merged environment in the case of recursive/nested validation or you can't preview the resources?07:31
therveshardy, Yeah it's just that there is no concept of environments in the result07:32
shardytherve: yeah, I was thinking to add it here https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/service.py#L1271 but it could be a new call without the old cfn-ish format07:33
shardyIf it was a new call we could add the option to flatten the parameters too07:33
shardywhich would be nice as we could remove that logic from tripleo-common07:33
therveshardy, That's a bit hackish, but it gets the job done :)07:33
shardytherve: yeah, that's whay I thought it was worth discussing, e.g if that's too much of a hack to be OK for you guys I'll spend some more time adding a cleaner new interface07:34
* therve shrugs07:35
therveshardy, Maybe hide it behind a flag?07:36
shardytherve: lol, OK I'll try that as a quick fix, then we can perhaps discuss what a cleaner new validation API would look like07:36
shardytherve: thanks for the feedback! :)07:36
ramishratherve: I think we probably need a test config entry for transport_url(we've been leveraging the defaults all along), or may be skip the tests in the meantime?07:44
therveramishra, We can skip for sure07:45
ramishratherve: OK07:45
ramishralet me report a bug and then a patch to skip07:46
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat master: Skip test_notifications.NotificationTest.* functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/50936707:57
therveramishra, What do you think of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509227/ ? Should we just delete the code?08:05
ramishratherve: you mean delete all cloudwatch stuff?08:06
therveramishra, Yeah08:06
ramishratherve: There is one issue, if the templates have some user_data with cfn-push-stats, so it would not be backward compatible08:07
ramishraI assume that's the reason no one ever removed it08:07
therveYeah but no one does that :)08:07
ramishraIf we all agree, then we can just throw it away;)08:08
ramishraI thought of bringing it up again this weeks meeting, so we all are ok with it:)08:08
therveWe can still merge this patch to unblock rdo anyway08:09
therveIf we ever manage to merge a patch again08:09
ramishrayep sure08:10
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therveamoralej, Gate is broken, please don't recheck in a loop :)08:54
amoralejtherve, ok, sorry08:55
shardytherve, ramishra: Yeah IIRC the cloudwatch stuff only exists so there's a way to push stats to telemetry services via a pre-signed URL08:58
shardyI remember discussing it in Vancouver but I'm still not sure if there's a way to do that without using the CW api now08:58
therveshardy, It's been deprecated long enough anyway08:59
therveIf people used it, we'd get some feedback08:59
shardytherve: Yeah, I guess that's true08:59
ramishrashardy: yeah, https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/watchrule.py#L30108:59
ramishraI plan to start a ML thread on it to see if anyone has any concerns09:00
shardysounds good09:00
ramishraLooks like some AWS resources are also using it too. https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/aws/lb/loadbalancer.py#L16309:02
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ramishraHmmm,, zuulv2/v3 both voting our patches:/10:50
ricolinand both fail10:50
ricolinhaha...10:50
ramishrano respite it seems..phew10:51
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openstackgerritRico Lin proposed openstack/heat master: Remove SSLMiddleware  https://review.openstack.org/50690011:19
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ricolinI guess now we have to wait for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50939411:37
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ricolinmeeting in #heat (here) in 8mins feel free to add agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-10-04_1300_UTC.2912:52
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ricolin#startmeeting heat13:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  4 13:01:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.13:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'13:01
ricolin#topic roll call13:01
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kiennt26hi o/13:01
kazsho/13:01
ricolino/13:01
ramishrahi13:01
ricolin#topic adding items to agenda13:02
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ricolin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-10-04_1300_UTC.2913:02
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ricolin#topic Gate rollback13:03
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ricolin#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123049.html13:03
ricolinSo since the buggy of zuul v313:04
ramishrayeah, but we're still stuck with some issue or other..13:04
ricolingate it rollback to v2 for now13:04
ricolinhope this will fix most of issue for us13:04
ricolin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509394/13:04
ricolinanother issue also13:04
ricolin#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/172120213:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1721202 in OpenStack Heat "test_notifications fails with (403) ACCESS_REFUSED" [High,New]13:04
ricolinthat's all I find for now13:05
ricolinthe workaround for devstack issue seems will be landed any mins13:06
ramishrawe probably have to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509367/ which would disable the notification tests13:07
ramishraafter the devstack issue is sorted. Another devstack change which was reverted  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509307/13:08
ricolinyeah, I will try to give a recheck on that after the devstack-gate patch land. Just want to make sure it's clear notification issue13:08
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ramishraI think we can land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509132/ too, but seems the author thinks otherwise;)13:09
ramishrabut anyway, that's not a blocker anymore as the devstack change was reverted13:10
ricolinyeah, let's do your patch an the devstack first:)13:10
ricolinand see how it goes13:11
ricolinThey should make zuul v3 as non blocker first like now at very first place13:12
ramishraHopefully we can land some patches soon. Last patch to merge on master was on 29th Sep13:12
ricolinhopefully:)13:13
ricolinNova only land 6 patches from last Thursday...13:13
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ricolinI also make some patches for heat to migrate to zuul v3, but I guess we will get back on it after v3 become stable13:15
ricolin#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50909813:16
ricolinAnyway today still got few hours left, we surly can do something at last this time!13:16
ricolinmove on13:17
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ricolin#topic new Deprecates and Hiddens13:17
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ricolinramishra, I just forward your ML to ops ML too13:18
ramishraricolin: I intentionally did not mark it to openstack-operators, go gather some feedback in dev list before going to then:)13:18
ramishrabut yeah13:18
ricolinI guess after this release we can get rid of cloud watch13:19
ricolinI also see some stuff that we can try to hidden or remove13:19
ricolinlike SSLMiddleware13:20
ramishrawhy after this release? We plan to do it Queens right? unless there are major concerns13:20
ricolinramishra, right, we can do it between queens-1 to queens-rc113:21
ramishrayeah, let's wait for the feedback;)13:22
ricolinAnd some long hidden resources too OS::Heat::SoftwareDeployments13:22
ricolinOS::Heat::CWLiteAlarm13:22
ricolinOS::Aodh::CombinationAlarm13:22
ricolinOS::Heat::StructuredDeployments13:22
ricolinOS::Neutron::RouterGateway13:22
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ricolinIMO we can trigger a ML and remove them too13:23
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thervericolin, We never remove resources13:25
ramishraHIDEEN only removes it from documentation right?13:25
therveAnd resource type list13:25
ramishratherve: yeah13:26
ricolintherve, so we keep it hidden forever?13:26
therveYes13:26
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ricolintherve, okay that's fine to me13:27
ricolinthen we can move on:)13:28
ricolin#topic Open discussion13:29
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ricolinAny other things to share or discuss?13:29
kiennt26hi everyone, I need your suggestion/advice about the test for rolling upgrade. Thank you ")13:29
ramishrakiennt26: we can probably can make that experimental job non-voting at the check gate first13:30
ramishraand then take it from there13:31
ramishrabut we've a frozen project-config now, so when the whole zuulv3  thing is over13:32
ramishrawe would have better control of jobs I suppose once they are in-tree13:32
kiennt26ramishra: yeah, have to wait for the stable zuulv3. I mean the test, what kind of the test is. Really need your advice about it :)13:33
ramishrabtw, would be good to have some reviews for https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:refactor_nova_microversion, patches look big, but mostly test changes13:34
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ramishraremoves the use of deprecated nova floatingip api and makes nova microversion usage simpler13:35
ramishraAnd that's all from me:)13:37
ricolinramishra, sure, we really need to catch up with reviewing patches(lost of time from these few days...)13:37
ricolinAnything else?13:38
ricolinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/509394/ just landed13:38
ricolinokay, if no other stuff let's end this meeting and back to works:)13:40
ricolin#endmeeting13:40
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zanebdammit. I completely forgot we changed the meeting time13:54
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ricolinzaneb, NP:)14:04
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thervezaneb, We probably need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509367/ to fix the gate14:08
therveAt least to have less failures :)14:08
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zanebthe Zuul v2 gate or v3 gate?14:10
ricolinv2 for now14:10
ricolinrollback to v2 until v3 issue fixed14:11
zanebthey both seem to be borked by the cffi issue anyway14:12
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ricolinzaneb, yeah, the workaround for cffi in devstack-gate just landed14:13
zaneboh, cool14:13
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