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| openstackgerrit | Crag Wolfe proposed openstack/heat: Move properties_data into a separate table https://review.openstack.org/267953 | 05:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/298391 | 05:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Remove multiple use of CooldownMixin https://review.openstack.org/294023 | 06:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Don't scale when action is not complete https://review.openstack.org/294946 | 06:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Don't try scaling when no change in size https://review.openstack.org/294945 | 06:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Add translation rule to delete ssh auth key from Magnum baymodel https://review.openstack.org/298444 | 06:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: lock till resource data is synced https://review.openstack.org/298550 | 06:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Increase timeout of WaitCondition due to ConcurrentTransactions https://review.openstack.org/296947 | 06:48 |
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| prazumovsky | Hi all! Sorry for ad, but can you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286098/ patch? It's translation refactoring, it's large update and it will be easier to review, if you'll download it on your local heat and learn it (because comparing with old code could be hard) | 07:03 |
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| elynn | Looking | 07:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Designate::Domain get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/254260 | 07:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Designate::Domain get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/254260 | 07:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Designate::Record get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/255253 | 07:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Set traversal to empty string on failure https://review.openstack.org/261208 | 07:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Mark resources UPDATE_COMPLETE when they request replacement https://review.openstack.org/296080 | 07:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add lbaas v2 scenario test https://review.openstack.org/237608 | 07:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Designate::Record get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/255253 | 07:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Neutron::Net get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/255287 | 07:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Cancel message https://review.openstack.org/279406 | 08:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Neutron::Net get_live_state implementation https://review.openstack.org/255287 | 08:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Manila::SecurityService get_live_state implement https://review.openstack.org/275344 | 08:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add validate for babican secret https://review.openstack.org/297793 | 09:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Increase timeout of WaitCondition due to ConcurrentTransactions https://review.openstack.org/296947 | 09:01 |
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| pas-ha | morning Heat | 09:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Manila::ShareType get_live_state implement https://review.openstack.org/275363 | 09:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat: Add validation for barbican expiration https://review.openstack.org/297238 | 09:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Provides 'equals' intrinsic function https://review.openstack.org/283365 | 10:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Increase timeout of WaitCondition due to ConcurrentTransactions https://review.openstack.org/296947 | 10:50 |
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| therve | skraynev, So I won't be able to attend the meeting tomorrow (as usual) | 12:20 |
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| therve | skraynev, Are you going to attend? Or do I need to find a volunteer to run it? :) | 12:21 |
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| skraynev | therve: heh. I planed to attend, but thought, that I will be a listener :) | 12:30 |
| therve | Tough luck :p | 12:30 |
| skraynev | therve: so I can be a volunteer . | 12:30 |
| therve | skraynev, Awesome :). I can find someone in a more appropriate timezone too | 12:31 |
| skraynev | therve: do you have any special info, which I need to raise on meeting ? | 12:32 |
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| skraynev | therve: don't worry, It's 10.00 am , so I am ok with it ;) | 12:32 |
| skraynev | good start of the day | 12:32 |
| therve | skraynev, I'll add to the agenda if necessary | 12:32 |
| therve | I think the one tomorrow is the one at night | 12:32 |
| skraynev | therve: wait a sec, I will check | 12:33 |
| skraynev | therve: nope. tomorrow is a morning 7.00 UTC | 12:34 |
| therve | Hum weird that's not what my agenda says | 12:35 |
| therve | skraynev, I think something went wrong at some point | 12:36 |
| therve | It says "Every two weeks (on odd weeks) on Wednesday at 2000 UTC" | 12:36 |
| therve | And we're week 13, so it definitely should be at that time | 12:36 |
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| therve | Yeah we're started the year on the wrong time | 12:38 |
| therve | Maybe it's time to change so that I can attend at least one of them :) | 12:39 |
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| skraynev | therve: I suppose ,that we just used order from previous year and I did not change it . | 12:49 |
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| therve | skraynev, Yeah the trick may be that "week 1" starts jan 4th | 12:50 |
| skraynev | therve: sorry, I did not totally understand your idea. do you want to change tomorrow meeting time ? | 12:51 |
| therve | Well tomorrow may be short notice | 12:51 |
| therve | I do want to change it at some point yeah | 12:51 |
| skraynev | oh... so we will get two meetings tomorrow ;) | 12:51 |
| therve | Right, not that :) | 12:52 |
| skraynev | one at the morning, where I may notify folks and evening :) | 12:52 |
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| therve | I mean let's keep it this way for tomorrow, even if it's wrong. It's been consistently wrong for 3 months anyway | 12:53 |
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| skraynev | therve: ok. :) | 13:01 |
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| kindjal | Does the mechanism used by heat to set OS::Nova::Server.name somehow override or re-write user-data? | 13:57 |
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| elynn | kindjal: It won't touch user-data, I think. | 13:59 |
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| kindjal | If I set “name” explicitly, then user-data works. But if I do not explicitly set “name” then it auto-creates a name, and user-data does not apply. | 14:00 |
| kindjal | That means my ssh key is not applied and I can’t shell in to debug. | 14:00 |
| kindjal | It’s been very difficult to figure this one out. There are no errors in any log. | 14:00 |
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| larsks | kindjal: a good strategy for debugging is to (a) build an image with a default password or (b) build an image with the debug-shell service enabled (if you're using systemd), to allow password-free access on the console. | 14:14 |
| kindjal | ok | 14:14 |
| larsks | kindjal: you could just boot a cirros image (which already has password login), and use that to inspect the user-data. cirros images don't run cloud-init, so you couldn't test functionality, but it would let you verify whether the user-data looks like you think it should. | 14:15 |
| kindjal | that’s a good idea… I’ll try that | 14:15 |
| kindjal | thanks | 14:15 |
| elynn | kindjal: After booting, cloudinit will start to fetch metadata, and get name and ssh key info. Please check the log in /var/log/cloudinit* to see any errors there. | 14:16 |
| kindjal | ok | 14:16 |
| elynn | If the os name or ssh key doesn't set correctly, might because cloudinit can't get these info correctly. | 14:17 |
| kindjal | Yes, I’ve tried config-drive: true, thinking maybe there was some issue with the metadata service. | 14:18 |
| elynn | usually config-drive works for me. | 14:20 |
| kindjal | seems to work fine with the cirros image | 14:20 |
| kindjal | must be something specific to the CoreOS image | 14:20 |
| elynn | What image are you using? | 14:20 |
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| elynn | Might be some bug in cloudinit of CoreOS. | 14:21 |
| kindjal | CoreOS-835.9.0 CoreOS-835.8.0 CoreOS-899.13.0 all behave the same way | 14:21 |
| kindjal | I’ll make a copy and set a password in it. | 14:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Dobies proposed openstack/heat: Added heat.resource_type custom constraint https://review.openstack.org/284960 | 14:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Dobies proposed openstack/heat: Make template available to parameter constraint checking https://review.openstack.org/284919 | 14:39 |
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| jdob | skraynev: ping about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269179/. can you take another look and let me know if your -1 still applies? | 14:43 |
| kindjal | “Failed to start Cloudinit from EC2-style metadata.” | 14:44 |
| kindjal | That’s a good clue. | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Dobies proposed openstack/python-heatclient: OpenStack client plugin for environment show https://review.openstack.org/270934 | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Jay Dobies proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add client library support for retrieving a stack's environment https://review.openstack.org/269179 | 14:45 |
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| skraynev | jdob: hi. the priority is still the same. first of all it should be done for osc, then we may backport it for old CLI | 14:53 |
| jdob | thing is, that patch isn't specific for either client | 14:53 |
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| jdob | that's just the REST call | 14:53 |
| jdob | there are separate reviews for the CLIs (and the old CLI one I abandoned) | 14:54 |
| jdob | so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269179/6 is the server call | 14:54 |
| jdob | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270934/6 is the client plugin | 14:54 |
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| jdob | skraynev: ^ | 14:56 |
| skraynev | jdob: hm. I suggest to make https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269179/6 depends on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270934/6 (without using depends-on, i.e. just rebase patches) | 14:59 |
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| skraynev | so when https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270934/6 be merge, we may land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269179/6 | 14:59 |
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| jdob | shouldn't we land the API call before exposing it as a client option though? | 15:00 |
| jdob | i did it that way so that we can land the internal server call (even if it's not used) and then we can later land the CLI call to actually use it | 15:00 |
| jdob | if we do it the other way, we're landing a CLI command that won't actually rn | 15:00 |
| jdob | run | 15:00 |
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| kindjal | elynn: Looks like heat is supplying metadata as a JSON object, and coreos wants unmodified YAML #cloud-config | 15:02 |
| kindjal | Is there some way to tell heat what format to use? | 15:03 |
| kindjal | I’ve already got: user_data_format: RAW | 15:03 |
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| larsks | kindjal: can you post your heat template somewhere? Using user_data_format: RAW should mean that heat does not modify the user data at all. | 15:04 |
| kindjal | yes standby | 15:04 |
| larsks | kindjal: but I thought you checked using cirros and the user data looked fine? | 15:04 |
| kindjal | https://gist.github.com/mcallaway/f9aa9bd9bd34af48d505 | 15:06 |
| kindjal | Well, cirros does work fine, presumably its cloudinit can operate with JSON formatted user-data? | 15:06 |
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| kindjal | I’ll post logs there too. | 15:06 |
| larsks | kindjal: so, again, using cirros you don't check functionality. You use "curl" or "wget" to fetch the user-data yourself and inspect it manually for correctness. | 15:07 |
| larsks | kindjal: how are you determining the coreos is getting a JSON blob? | 15:07 |
| kindjal | refresh that gist | 15:07 |
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| kindjal | I commented with the details | 15:07 |
| larsks | The log says "Parsing user-data as cloud-config" | 15:08 |
| larsks | That seems correct. | 15:08 |
| kindjal | user-data *is* #cloud-config… and meta_data.json is JSON… | 15:08 |
| kindjal | but then it says | 15:08 |
| kindjal | “Merging cloud-config from meta-data and user-data | 15:08 |
| kindjal | “ | 15:08 |
| larsks | Okay, yeah, that's perfectly normal. | 15:08 |
| larsks | Meta-data is always JSON, because it's a bunch of key/value data. | 15:08 |
| kindjal | then “Failed to start Cloudinit from EC2-style metadata” | 15:09 |
| kindjal | seems that coreos isn’t equipped to handle that JSON data? | 15:09 |
| larsks | So, coreos does *not* use standard cloud-init, so it will behave differently than you see with, e.g., fedora or rhel or ubuntu, etc. | 15:10 |
| larsks | Having said that, I wonder what in your metadata is causing problems; you're not explicitly setting anything in your heat template...so what coreos is getting is perfectly standard. | 15:11 |
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| larsks | Do you see the same behavior when using the network metadata service? (That is, is this just a problem with how coreos handles a config drive...?) | 15:12 |
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| kindjal | Yes. | 15:12 |
| kindjal | Same behavior when configdrive is false | 15:12 |
| larsks | kindjal: interesting. I haven't worked with coreos recently, but the error you're seeing seems like it should crop up all the time for anybody. I'm downloading the stable coreos image right now just to test this out locally. | 15:13 |
| kindjal | All the examples I find from googling around differ from mine in that either: | 15:14 |
| kindjal | 1 ) They specify the name in the OS::Nova::Server. If I set “name” then this doesn’t happen. Something about heat’s autogenerated server names is a trigger. | 15:14 |
| kindjal | 2) They don’t use a ResourceGroup or AutoScalingGroup | 15:14 |
| kindjal | This is a similar issue: https://github.com/coreos/bugs/issues/774 | 15:15 |
| larsks | I wonder if the length of the generated name is causing something? | 15:15 |
| larsks | You could test that easily; set the name: key in your heat template to the generated name from the metadata.json file. | 15:16 |
| larsks | And see if that reproduces the problem. | 15:16 |
| larsks | Then start chopping characters off the end... | 15:16 |
| kindjal | physical_resource_name_limit = 53 | 15:17 |
| kindjal | that’s the max? | 15:17 |
| kindjal | I’m setting name: mc-r-stack-server_cluster-2fnmsxt4aehl-0-qpyiigbbs2z5 which matches what was last autogenerated... | 15:18 |
| kindjal | and disabling config_drive | 15:18 |
| larsks | kindjal: I'm really just trying to guess how setting the name explicitly makes your problem go away, and that's the only theory I came up with... | 15:19 |
| kindjal | 53 char name set explicitly failed | 15:20 |
| kindjal | getting logs now | 15:20 |
| kindjal | when using the metadata service, are temp files written? If so, where? | 15:22 |
| kindjal | I added logs to that gist | 15:23 |
| larsks | kindjal: So, it's failing the same way, which suggests that name length is the issue. It looks as if we may have identified the problem? Re: logs, what sort of logs are you looking for? Server side or client (coreos) side? | 15:24 |
| kindjal | Well, from coreos, I see from journalctl -b -u oem-cloudinit.service --no-pager the fact that it’s failing... | 15:25 |
| kindjal | but | 15:25 |
| kindjal | from ostack/heat, there is no problem, so it doesn’t log anything... | 15:25 |
| larsks | Well, sure. So far this clearly looks like a coreos problem. | 15:26 |
| kindjal | so I think logs are fine, I’ve just recently been educated on how to find them. | 15:26 |
| kindjal | that coreos issue references a need for a “--from-ec2-metadata” flag | 15:26 |
| kindjal | I’m looking for more info on that. | 15:26 |
| kindjal | do you know where the metadata gets written? | 15:26 |
| kindjal | I guess that’s really a coreos question | 15:27 |
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| larsks | Yeah, I'm not sure, and I'm still waiting for my coreos image to upload to a remote glance so I can't check yet :) | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat: Add image_id resolving in Nova Server https://review.openstack.org/298352 | 15:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitriy Uvarenkov proposed openstack/heat: Add image_id resolving in Nova Server https://review.openstack.org/298352 | 15:33 |
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| kindjal | larsks: My hostname is 53 chars, and then there’s also a domain added to it... | 15:39 |
| kindjal | coreos-server-0 ~ # hostname mc-r-stack-server-cluster-2fnmsxt4aehl-0-qpyiigbbs2z5.bing.bong.boo | 15:39 |
| kindjal | hostname: name too long | 15:39 |
| kindjal | appears to be the issue. | 15:40 |
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| kindjal | it might be useful in heat OS::Nova::Server (server.py) to be able to configure physical_resource_name_limit | 15:41 |
| larsks | kindjal: Interesting! I don't know whether to call that a heat issue, or a coreos issue, or just a config issue. The maximum hostname length under linux appears to be 64 characters, so heat using a generated hostname that is already 53 characters seems dicey. | 15:41 |
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| kindjal | yeah the code says “linux HOST_NAME_MAX of 64, minus the .novalocal appended to the name” | 15:42 |
| kindjal | but I’m setting a real domain there | 15:42 |
| larsks | Yeah. Looks like the best solution for now is just continuing to set the hostname explicitly. | 15:42 |
| kindjal | I’d do that… *except* I need to use an AutoScalingGroup, which does not support %index% | 15:43 |
| kindjal | and I can’t have all my servers have the same name. | 15:43 |
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| larsks | Hmm. I don't have a good suggestion, other than hacking at the Heat code to generate shorter names. | 15:47 |
| kindjal | Yeah I think that’s where I’m headed. | 15:48 |
| kindjal | I really appreciate your help. Thanks. | 15:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed openstack/heat: Use a context manager to re-raise local exceptions in StackResource https://review.openstack.org/298835 | 15:50 |
| kindjal | larsks: I file this issue here https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1563402 | 15:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1563402 in heat "Heat OS::Nova::Server hard codes physical_resource_name_limit to 53" [Undecided,New] | 15:52 |
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| therve | kindjal, As a short term solution, just give shorter names to your objects | 16:38 |
| kindjal | yes | 16:39 |
| therve | If you have control of the heat server code, you can quickly write a resource plugin overriding that value | 16:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack/heat-templates: Use new openstack heat plugins for validation https://review.openstack.org/285414 | 16:44 |
| therve | Strangely it looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1238910 which ought to be fixed | 16:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1238910 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova boot operation with servers greater then 63 characters don't get DHCP address" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Chet Burgess (cfb-n) | 16:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Dobies proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Moved -t parameter for visibility https://review.openstack.org/298933 | 18:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Vanderwiel proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add basic read-only function test for template validate https://review.openstack.org/298936 | 18:55 |
| clayton | is there someone that could review this bug fix for the openstack client integration? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291205/ | 18:57 |
| clayton | without this patch the OSC integration doesn't work if you have more than one region | 18:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jay Dobies proposed openstack/heat: Added software deployment timeout policy https://review.openstack.org/298956 | 19:50 |
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| harlowja | zaneb skraynev i recently just moved to godaddy and they are very interseted in seeing how/what is the current kind of summary with regards to heat convergence, heat and containers, heat and ... do u guys have any recommendations on docs or slides or videos or things around this stuff, i haven't been up to date, but thought maybe i could bribe u guys to help, lol | 20:02 |
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| therve | harlowja, We have python code. Not even pretty one. | 20:07 |
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| harlowja | lol | 20:09 |
| harlowja | oh man, i thought it was pretty therve | 20:09 |
| harlowja | not even pretty, lol | 20:09 |
| therve | More seriously, I don't have links to give you. | 20:10 |
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| therve | convergence has mostly been treated as an implementation detail AFAICT, so we don't have docs and stuff like that | 20:11 |
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| harlowja | ya, my musing on it was more about, could it be used to have heat actively manage containers | 20:14 |
| harlowja | if u squint, heat could manager something like containers (let's not call it a COE) | 20:14 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:14 |
| harlowja | *manage, not manager | 20:14 |
| therve | Probably not | 20:15 |
| harlowja | just not able to (convergence is alot like active management right?) or just not the scope (for now/ever) | 20:16 |
| therve | I guess ultimately maybe, but we're not there yet | 20:18 |
| therve | And regarding containers, we still need an API to manage them, whatever that is | 20:18 |
| therve | Presumably those APIs are COEs anyway | 20:18 |
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| harlowja | right, or something else | 20:21 |
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