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| asalkeld | can't believe this place is round the corner from me and i didn't know it until now : http://www.archivebeerboutique.com.au/ | 00:10 |
| asalkeld | mmm, back to doing non-beer reviews | 00:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move WritableLogger in-tree as it is deprecated in olso_log https://review.openstack.org/191597 | 00:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move WritableLogger in-tree as it is deprecated in olso_log https://review.openstack.org/191597 | 01:54 |
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| elynn | morning all :) | 02:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Continue to check if nova task is in progress https://review.openstack.org/190558 | 02:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Use EntityNotFound instead *NotFound https://review.openstack.org/188248 | 03:07 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat-specs: Support snapshot/restore for StackResources https://review.openstack.org/187447 | 03:13 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Correct volume restore behavior https://review.openstack.org/182152 | 03:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Correct volume restore behavior https://review.openstack.org/182152 | 03:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add and apply cinder backup constraint https://review.openstack.org/183433 | 03:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat-specs: Add support for external resources https://review.openstack.org/134848 | 03:38 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/191619 | 03:40 |
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| KanagarajM | good morning all ! | 04:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Kanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Removes redundant validation of template (1) https://review.openstack.org/173710 | 04:15 |
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| ramishra | morning all | 04:18 |
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| asalkeld | KanagarajM: ramishra do you guys get "sqlalchemy/engine/default.py:436: Warning: Truncated incorrect DOUBLE value: '030b84c2-c19a-43ff-aa71-47b87eb4b922'" | 04:22 |
| asalkeld | in convergence testing? | 04:22 |
| asalkeld | is that the motivation of making stack id an int? | 04:22 |
| KanagarajM | asalkeld: hi, i didn't. I will check it today. | 04:25 |
| asalkeld | ok | 04:25 |
| asalkeld | (i'll post what i am working on) | 04:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Add the convergence resource replacement logic https://review.openstack.org/180022 | 04:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: convergence: make sure sender is a tuple https://review.openstack.org/188690 | 04:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move listner rpc client to rpc/listner_client.py https://review.openstack.org/191630 | 04:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: convergence concurrent workflow https://review.openstack.org/191631 | 04:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: ** test-only ** enable convergence https://review.openstack.org/191632 | 04:27 |
| asalkeld | KanagarajM: could you look here : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191631/1/heat/engine/worker.py (line 178) | 04:28 |
| asalkeld | that statement in the spec didn't make sense to me | 04:29 |
| KanagarajM | asalkeld: sure. 1 sec | 04:29 |
| asalkeld | basically someone has done a new update, can't we just abandon the current traversal | 04:30 |
| asalkeld | (i think i am missing something) | 04:30 |
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| KanagarajM | in zaneb code, https://github.com/zaneb/heat-convergence-prototype/blob/master/converge/converger.py#L115 trying again for the check_resource while sync point is missing, for once. | 04:36 |
| KanagarajM | asalkeld: when new update comes, i believe that graph will be updated to make sure that exising resource being updated will be removed and recent update will be done | 04:37 |
| asalkeld | mmm, ok thanks for the link | 04:38 |
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| KanagarajM | asalkeld: sure. | 04:40 |
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| asalkeld | brb, picking kids up | 04:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/191619 | 05:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Implement convergence rollback. https://review.openstack.org/191650 | 05:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/190492 | 06:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Reusable empty template. https://review.openstack.org/191666 | 06:31 |
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| skraynev | good morning | 06:39 |
| asalkeld | hi skraynev | 06:41 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: hi | 06:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Add first pass at post_test_hook for functional https://review.openstack.org/180539 | 06:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Remove deprecated metadata_update method https://review.openstack.org/187160 | 06:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Remove deprecated headers in auth_password https://review.openstack.org/187525 | 06:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Move test_event_utils.py module to unit directory https://review.openstack.org/189699 | 06:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Register ResourceWithComplexAttributes in HeatTest https://review.openstack.org/189749 | 06:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Register ResWithComplexPropsAndAttrs in HeatTest https://review.openstack.org/189748 | 06:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Register ResourceWithPropsAndAttrs in HeatTestCase https://review.openstack.org/189751 | 06:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Register ResourceWithProps in HeatTestCase https://review.openstack.org/189750 | 06:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Move registration of GenericResource to HeatTest https://review.openstack.org/189753 | 06:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Move registration of resources to HeatTestCase https://review.openstack.org/189752 | 06:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Move internal test resources to generic_resource https://review.openstack.org/189754 | 06:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Remove unnecessary registration of glance resource https://review.openstack.org/189704 | 06:48 |
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| sirushti | morning all | 06:53 |
| sirushti | asalkeld, yes, that is indeed the motivation to change stack id from uuid to integer | 06:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Fix KeyError exception when stack snapshot deletion https://review.openstack.org/191702 | 08:50 |
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| asalkeld | sirushti, ananta_ : https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1465204 | 09:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1465204 in heat "convergence: resources not using the correct template on update" [Undecided,New] | 09:14 |
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| sirushti | asalkeld, and that results in this -> http://paste.openstack.org/show/293433/ right? | 09:16 |
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| asalkeld | sirushti: it can if you add a new resource when you update | 09:16 |
| asalkeld | in my test i updated an existing resource | 09:16 |
| ananta__ | asalkeld: thanks for the defect | 09:17 |
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| ochuprykov | shardy: ping | 09:18 |
| asalkeld | once that is fixed we should be progressing well ananta__ | 09:18 |
| ananta__ | the template assigning looks fine | 09:18 |
| ananta__ | asalkeld: sure | 09:18 |
| shardy | ochuprykov: hello | 09:18 |
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| asalkeld | ananta__: yeah, it's the lack of creating new resource instances | 09:19 |
| ochuprykov | shardy: I have updated my spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183506/12 | 09:19 |
| ochuprykov | shardy: maybe new variant will be more acceptable for you? | 09:19 |
| shardy | ochuprykov: thanks, I'll check it out | 09:20 |
| ananta__ | asalkeld: yeah...it looks kind of unintuitive that prev_temp_id == curr_temp_id | 09:21 |
| asalkeld | ananta__: i wonder if we cant't just use the new stack | 09:21 |
| ochuprykov | shardy: fine, thanks | 09:21 |
| asalkeld | ananta__: so instead of current.converge() use new.converge() - it will have the new resource instances | 09:21 |
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| ananta__ | asalkeld: new stack? you mean create another stack? | 09:22 |
| ananta__ | no, id don't think thats a good idea | 09:22 |
| ananta__ | everything is tracked, templates and traversal id etc from stack object | 09:22 |
| asalkeld | ananta__: ok, well copy over the resources? | 09:23 |
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| ananta__ | asalkeld: IMO there is something minor missing.... | 09:24 |
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| ananta__ | we surely don't need another stack | 09:24 |
| ananta__ | for our poc and zane's we never used another stack | 09:24 |
| ananta__ | and it every operation was referring the same stack, given that resources and templates are lightly coupled | 09:25 |
| ananta__ | to the stack | 09:25 |
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| asalkeld | probably just need this: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/stack.py#L220-L222 | 09:26 |
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| asalkeld | (and store them) | 09:26 |
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| ananta__ | asalkeld: resource operations are distibuted among heat engine, so everyone will have a copy then? | 09:30 |
| ananta__ | have to have | 09:30 |
| asalkeld | ananta__: no, just initially | 09:30 |
| asalkeld | to create the resources in the db | 09:30 |
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| asalkeld | we are not creating new db resources | 09:31 |
| asalkeld | that point to the new template | 09:31 |
| ananta__ | asalkeld: yeah, got it | 09:31 |
| asalkeld | ok | 09:31 |
| ananta__ | asalkeld: it just needs to proceed with creating new resources in DB...entries for new ones and the updated ones | 09:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove unnecessary registration of glance resource https://review.openstack.org/189704 | 09:36 |
| asalkeld | ananta__: actually shouldn't we just be assigning the new template id to the resources? | 09:37 |
| asalkeld | then create new resources on UpdateReplace | 09:37 |
| asalkeld | (i have done that in my bp) | 09:37 |
| asalkeld | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/180022/4/heat/engine/resource.py | 09:38 |
| asalkeld | basically we are missing the logic in update.py - what is in new/old -> update template id; new resources -> create new resource in db | 09:39 |
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| ananta__ | asalkeld: yes | 09:40 |
| ananta__ | asalkeld: just reading code to get the context | 09:40 |
| asalkeld | (sorry for the confusion) | 09:40 |
| inc0_ | guys, do we need midcycle? | 09:41 |
| sirushti | agreed on what asalkeld just said^ -> notice this anomolous dependency. deps = [((73, False), None), ((72, False), (72, True))] | 09:42 |
| sirushti | that's on an update | 09:43 |
| sirushti | it's creating that resource and deleting it | 09:43 |
| asalkeld | inc0_: $$$$ | 09:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Remove instance_user and admin_user options https://review.openstack.org/103928 | 09:43 |
| asalkeld | need vs. have money for | 09:43 |
| inc0_ | yeah, I know, that's why I'm asking, if we want to organize it, I should start talking to my superiors... | 09:44 |
| inc0_ | because I doubt it will be in Poland;) | 09:44 |
| asalkeld | in unrelated news: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-15/tree-frog-versus-snake-tries-to-make-a-meal-of-carpet-python/6546992 | 09:46 |
| asalkeld | yes frogs can eat snakes | 09:46 |
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| inc0_ | Australia... | 09:47 |
| asalkeld | yikes and snakes can eat crocodiles: http://www.abc.net.au/local/photos/2014/03/03/3955563.htm | 09:47 |
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| inc0_ | and I'm pretty sure there is a bush or mushroom or whatever which can eat snakes | 09:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: DNM: Take convergence for a spin https://review.openstack.org/191632 | 09:51 |
| cmyster | inc0_: badgers eat them | 09:51 |
| cmyster | and people | 09:51 |
| inc0_ | plants or snakes? | 09:51 |
| inc0_ | I must visit Australia at some point;) | 09:52 |
| inc0_ | http://in1.ccio.co/A5/T2/ID/fbb503c202c417d4f7fd2e885d9bef70.jpg by the way if you haven't seen this | 09:53 |
| sirushti | asalkeld, so I revised https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191632/ with some fixes that I think might help us get better results in the gate | 09:54 |
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| asalkeld | sirushti: nice | 10:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Signal SoftwareDeployment resource https://review.openstack.org/189177 | 10:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: RPC versioning example https://review.openstack.org/191752 | 10:57 |
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| ananta__ | skraynev: hi | 11:45 |
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| skraynev | ananta__Ж рун | 11:47 |
| skraynev | ananta__: hey | 11:47 |
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| sirushti | skraynev, Hi, if you're around, could you revisit these project-config changes? -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/188147/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187725/ | 12:06 |
| sirushti | That should get us running grenade in-tree for good :) | 12:07 |
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| skraynev | sirushti: cool. sure | 12:07 |
| sirushti | thanks skraynev :) | 12:07 |
| skraynev | sirushti: one note, please use change_id for reference on another patches instead of url link :) | 12:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/heat: Implement update for Manila::Share https://review.openstack.org/171845 | 12:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Kairat Kushaev proposed openstack/heat: Implement create-delete-check for Manila::Share https://review.openstack.org/171806 | 12:10 |
| skraynev | sirushti: in commit message I mean | 12:10 |
| sirushti | skraynev, noted :) | 12:10 |
| sirushti | is there any difference though? | 12:11 |
| skraynev | yeap | 12:11 |
| skraynev | look patch on which you referenced https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185050/4 | 12:11 |
| skraynev | in commit message | 12:11 |
| skraynev | it contains change id | 12:11 |
| skraynev | I0847004a8ac023a113cabaee46896abc823a01da | 12:11 |
| skraynev | 1. you can find it in the git history (without gerrit) | 12:12 |
| skraynev | 2. it is metalink and you can just click on it ;) | 12:12 |
| skraynev | sirushti: it's more useful ;) | 12:13 |
| sirushti | sure, makes sense :) will do. | 12:13 |
| sirushti | thanks | 12:13 |
| skraynev | np. I don't want that you loose +2 from Sean ;) | 12:13 |
| skraynev | it was just a suggestion on future :) | 12:14 |
| skraynev | sirushti: about second one. could you rebase it ;) | 12:15 |
| sirushti | skraynev, Is it necessary? | 12:16 |
| skraynev | sirushti: no, just want to make sure, that it will not fail with merge conflict | 12:17 |
| sirushti | I'll click on rebase :) | 12:17 |
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| sirushti | no, you're right :) needs a rebase | 12:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/heat: Use pbr new autodoc feature https://review.openstack.org/180122 | 13:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove deprecated metadata_update method https://review.openstack.org/187160 | 14:45 |
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| gcivitella | Hi all, I'm trying to debug a problem with Heat's autoscaling. I see in the logs Ceilometer curling a Heat's webhook when an alarm fires but I cannot see any trace of the call in heat-engine.log. I'd like to chek if the problem in on Ceilometer's or Heat's side. My question is: how can i fake the call to Heat webhook? | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add additional info for DEPRECATED objects https://review.openstack.org/168868 | 14:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add documentation page for Support Status https://review.openstack.org/168816 | 14:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add HIDDEN status to SupportStatus https://review.openstack.org/186340 | 14:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add previous_status to SupportStatus https://review.openstack.org/186339 | 14:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add translate_properties for Resource https://review.openstack.org/191839 | 14:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Update SupportStatuses for objs where it needed https://review.openstack.org/191840 | 14:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add HIDDEN status to RandomString sequence https://review.openstack.org/191841 | 14:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add HIDDEN status to Server uuid https://review.openstack.org/191842 | 14:50 |
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| shardy | gcivitella: there are two ways, one is to expose the alarm_url attribute of the ScalingPolicy resource and hit it with curl | 14:53 |
| shardy | gcivitella: the second way is to send a signal to the same ScalingPolicy via heat resource-signal | 14:54 |
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| shardy | gcivitella: e.g heat resource-signal <stackname> MyScalingPolicy | 14:55 |
| gcivitella | shardy: I'll try, thanks | 14:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add state_set at the end of update_task https://review.openstack.org/191848 | 15:05 |
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| shadower | what happened to the user guide? This now returns 404: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/enduser/hot-guide/hot_software_deployment.html | 15:22 |
| shardy | shadower: I think it moved, sec | 15:22 |
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| shardy | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/hot-guide | 15:24 |
| shardy | shadower: ^^ | 15:24 |
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| shadower | shardy: that one is a 403 :/ | 15:24 |
| shardy | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/hot-guide/hot.html | 15:25 |
| shardy | try that :) | 15:25 |
| shadower | \o/ | 15:25 |
| shadower | shardy: thanks! | 15:25 |
| shardy | np | 15:26 |
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| bdossant | Hi! can we already upload heat templates to glance? | 15:54 |
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| gcivitella | shardy: the resource-signal works in my installation. Now I'd like to test shell connectivity btw Ceilometer's and Heat's host, so my other question is: do I need to add some content to curl requests to webhooks or is enough to just GET or POST them? Thank you very much | 15:57 |
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| shardy | gcivitella: I think you need PUT if you're using the pre-signed alarm_url: | 15:59 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat-cfntools/blob/master/bin/cfn-signal#L108 | 15:59 |
| shardy | also be careful of shell quoting, you may need to put the url in quotes to avoid the & getting stripped before the query string | 16:00 |
| shardy | gcivitella: alternatively, you can just use python-heatclient if it's installed on the ceilometer host | 16:00 |
| shardy | e.g heat resource-signal as you have already done | 16:01 |
| shardy | gcivitella: note the two approaches use two different APIs though | 16:01 |
| shardy | alarm_url hits heat-api-cfn on tcp/8000 and heat resource-signal hits heat-api on tcp/8004 | 16:01 |
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| shardy | gcivitella: the body of the request is optional via either method | 16:03 |
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| gcivitella | shardy: ok, thanks | 16:03 |
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| shardy | bdossant: Not sure tbh, certainly I've not seen any integration with heat, e.g the ability to pass a glance ID in lieu of the template | 16:05 |
| shardy | There is support in python-heatclient for retrieval of a template object from swift, but I'm not sure how many folks actually use it | 16:06 |
| bdossant | hum | 16:09 |
| bdossant | In the Juno release cycle, Glance went through a theme change. The mission of the Glance project is now: | 16:10 |
| bdossant | “To provide a service where users can upload and discover data assets that are meant to be used with other services, like images for Nova and templates for Heat.” | 16:10 |
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| bdossant | this would be cool because we could include a couple of supported templates on glance | 16:11 |
| bdossant | it would be easier for user | 16:11 |
| shardy | bdossant: Yeah I remember the sessions at the Hong Kong summit, I'd be interested to know the current status of that work tbh | 16:12 |
| shardy | last time I looked was quite a while back, but there didn't seem to be flexible support for things like dependencies between artefacts e.g such as would be needed if you wanted to push a non-trivial tree of nested templates into glance | 16:13 |
| bdossant | i see | 16:14 |
| bdossant | i have inquire the glance guys | 16:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Stack updated error if creation fails https://review.openstack.org/190039 | 16:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rico Lin proposed openstack/heat: Stack updated error if creation fails https://review.openstack.org/190039 | 16:36 |
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| bdossant | *i have to | 16:41 |
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| jdandrea | Is anyone aware of heat plugins (not the built-in ones) that use their own oslo config file? | 16:55 |
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| jdandrea | Is anyone aware of (and can point me toward) add-ons to OpenStack projects (e.g., heat, nova, cinder, neutron, et. al) that use oslo config files that are *separate* from the project config files? | 17:06 |
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| zaneb | jdandrea: I'm not aware that that's a thing for any project | 17:34 |
| zaneb | jdandrea: although obviously you can supply multiple config files to any server, so you're free to split them up any way you like | 17:34 |
| zaneb | but oslo.config recognises the options based on the section they're in, not which file they came from | 17:35 |
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| jdandrea | zaneb: *nodnod* I'm trying to separate my group/options out from heat.conf, as my understanding is it's not a good idea to put my cfg group in heat.conf ... except I'm hearing in openstack-oslo that it's "completely legal" to do so. Of course, legal != advisable I suspect. So I'm a bit stuck as to what to do. | 17:51 |
| jdandrea | zaneb: For now I will leave the options there and provide a sample config/section, letting the deployer/installer know they can put them in whatever config suits them best and just make sure heat-engine knows where to find it. | 17:52 |
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| adrian_otto | hi everyone. I have a question about ScalingPolicy when combined with ScalingGroup resources. When a ScalingPolicy is updated to reduce the target resource count (scale down), is there any way to hint to Heat *which* of the resources it should delete? Ideally, I'm looking for the ability to send in a list of UUID values of resource(s) to delete in addition to my exact_capacity argument for the newer (smaller) group. Thoughts? | 18:25 |
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| zaneb | adrian_otto: we have that for ResourceGroup (not autoscaling), and we have been talking about it since forever for autoscaling. It's possible somebody actually added it in Kilo, but I'm not 100% sure | 18:42 |
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| adrian_otto | thanks zaneb | 18:50 |
| adrian_otto | I will glance at the source and see if I can find it | 18:50 |
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| adrian_otto | zaneb: one more question… I thought when ResourceGroup is used that it will delete *all* resources in the pool, and re-create them. | 18:52 |
| adrian_otto | that would seem contrary to your remarks above. | 18:52 |
| zaneb | adrian_otto: hope not. I think it was doing that at one point, but I consider that a bug | 18:53 |
| zaneb | & I believe it was fixed | 18:53 |
| adrian_otto | I think it might still be acting that way | 18:53 |
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| adrian_otto | ok, I have some code in review that makes reference to that "bug" | 18:54 |
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| adrian_otto | we are about to add a mention of that in our documentation for Magnum | 18:54 |
| adrian_otto | so if that's actually solved, we need to keep that from landing | 18:54 |
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| adrian_otto | let me give you the link, one sec. | 18:54 |
| adrian_otto | zaneb: https://review.openstack.org/191539 | 18:55 |
| adrian_otto | might want to have a look when you get a moment. | 18:55 |
| adrian_otto | my understanding is that adding nodes works fine, and subtracting them causes a full deletion of all resources in the group, and adding new ones to make the desired quantity. | 18:56 |
| adrian_otto | (I hope I am wrong!) | 18:57 |
| zaneb | adrian_otto: I hope so too, because TripleO uses ResourceGroup too and I have big problems coming my way if it deletes every compute nodes every time you remove one ;) | 18:58 |
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| zaneb | adrian_otto: but my team has tested that recently and I didn't hear screaming, so I believe that it works fine | 18:59 |
| zaneb | obviously you lose all the containers on the node that you remove, but you shouldn't lose the whole cluster | 18:59 |
| stpierre | on devstack with no load, calling a ScalingPolicy webhook appears to be synchronous; that is, if i have a scaling policy that scales the stack up, by the time my curl command returns the stack has that additional instance in it. is that call always synchronous, or does it just appear synchronous because i'm testing on a tiny devstack install with no load? | 19:00 |
| zaneb | adrian_otto: this may be the bug you were thinking of? https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1383618 | 19:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1383618 in heat "update asg resource which in FAILED state shouldn't enter UpdateReplace flow" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to huangtianhua (huangtianhua) | 19:01 |
| adrian_otto | zaneb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/magnum/+bug/1465361 | 19:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1465361 in Magnum "Scaling down a Bay destroys all containers" [High,Triaged] | 19:04 |
| adrian_otto | I need to verify this, so I am going to set it back to New state | 19:04 |
| adrian_otto | Incomplete, I mean | 19:05 |
| zaneb | adrian_otto: right, I saw that but it wasn't clear to me what that was based on | 19:05 |
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| adrian_otto | so far based on remarks from other Magnum devs | 19:05 |
| adrian_otto | so I hope it's only rumor | 19:05 |
| adrian_otto | zaneb: I have to step out now, but will revisit this later today | 19:06 |
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| zaneb | stpierre: it's asynchronous | 19:07 |
| stpierre | thanks | 19:08 |
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| zaneb | adrian_otto: right, yeah may be outdated info or just communication misunderstanding | 19:08 |
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| inc0 | zaneb, hi, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191752/ this might interest you a bit. Example of versioned object in RPC. Very ugly, wip, but I hope its enough to show the concept | 19:12 |
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| zaneb | inc0: thanks. tbh, this is a good example of what I don't want to do ;) | 19:16 |
| inc0 | hehe, I said it's ugly. Basic idea is just to register objects and use serializer | 19:17 |
| zaneb | inc0: the "object" that might change (which is not an object) is the one that contains the arguments to check_resource | 19:17 |
| inc0 | well check_resource wasn't best call to prove the concept | 19:18 |
| zaneb | so it's something like {'resource_id': 'foo', 'current_traversal': 'bar', data: {...}, 'is_update': True} | 19:18 |
| zaneb | the problem we have is that we might need to add an argument to that | 19:19 |
| zaneb | and it has to work across version upgrades | 19:19 |
| inc0 | well, that's another matter, backporting | 19:19 |
| zaneb | a problem we *don't* have is that a resource_id may no longer be a resource_id | 19:19 |
| zaneb | that's never going to change | 19:19 |
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| inc0 | yeah, again, PoC | 19:20 |
| inc0 | but if that would be more complicated call, like stack_create | 19:20 |
| inc0 | where we move quite complicated structure across rpc | 19:20 |
| zaneb | so this is why I don't think versioned objects works that well for RPC, because it seems to be all about loading e.g. Resource objects from the database, and I don't care about that at all | 19:20 |
| inc0 | this will come handy | 19:20 |
| zaneb | but we should never move a complicated structure over RPC, that's a horrible design mistake | 19:21 |
| inc0 | then how would you make "stack_create" | 19:21 |
| inc0 | API to Engine call | 19:21 |
| inc0 | you need to push all the info required for creation through rpc | 19:22 |
| inc0 | and that can potentially be complicated datastructure | 19:22 |
| inc0 | also, engine to enigne calls with whole stacks makes point also. If we load stack, we don't need to do it again | 19:22 |
| inc0 | we load an object, and move object around | 19:23 |
| inc0 | if we'd move just id, we'll have numer of db calls | 19:23 |
| inc0 | anyway, let's talk tomorrow ok? | 19:23 |
| inc0 | I gtg | 19:23 |
| zaneb | ok, thanks | 19:24 |
| inc0 | cya all | 19:24 |
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| jasond | ryansb: are you around? | 19:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Fix KeyError exception when stack snapshot deletion https://review.openstack.org/191702 | 19:50 |
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| ryansb | jasond: yeah, I'm about. Rebased that dry-run patch today | 19:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Bump python-troveclient version to 1.0.9 https://review.openstack.org/191954 | 19:54 |
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| jasond | ryansb: oh, ok. was just about to ask about that :) | 19:56 |
| jasond | ryansb: i can help out if you need. let me know | 19:57 |
| ryansb | ;) turned out to be a nontrivial rebase, oddly | 19:57 |
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| jasond | ryansb: oh, i know about those | 19:58 |
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| jdandrea | Are there any logging.conf examples that send, for instance, heat-engine log level DEBUG messages to a particular file/path so that they can be handled separately from /var/log/heat/heat.log? (Trying to help an admin out here. Looking at the python logging tutorials atm.) | 20:02 |
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| saurabhs | Hi, I am running into an issue with heat stack update. If the template has changed when I do heat stack-update, will it force re-creation of the neutron ports? | 22:42 |
| saurabhs | On my stack, I added a new StructuredDeployment resources for all my nova servers, which applies a new StructuredConfig section which has some NTP settings. | 22:42 |
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| saurabhs | This doesn't change anything on neutron networking/ports at all. But still when I do heat-stack update the neutron ports are re-created (I verified neutron port-list before and after the update, and port ids are different) | 22:42 |
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| saurabhs | has anybody seen this behavior? is there a workaround to force heat not to rebuild the neutron ports again? | 22:42 |
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| asalkeld | morning | 23:23 |
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