Wednesday, 2015-04-01

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asalkeldseems difficult to get a patch in without changing strings :-O00:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: Add options for setting and clearing of hooks  https://review.openstack.org/14931900:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: Add wildcard support to hook-clear  https://review.openstack.org/16686700:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Move generic resources to properties schema  https://review.openstack.org/16882901:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Move provider_net test to separate file  https://review.openstack.org/16838901:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: Fix test class names  https://review.openstack.org/16938601:16
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Prove that we can't signal during a suspend  https://review.openstack.org/16957601:23
stevebakerI'll do a heatclient release once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164417/ lands01:23
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asalkeldok sounds good01:30
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* asalkeld looking forward to less launchpad button pushing and meetings01:31
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asalkeldstevebaker: rofl http://www.nitflux.co.nz/01:39
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elynnmorning :)02:10
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openstackgerritLiangChen proposed openstack/heat: Docker plugin add host devices property  https://review.openstack.org/16856502:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-heatclient: Parse nested files if they are template  https://review.openstack.org/16441702:20
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat-specs: Messages for users  https://review.openstack.org/16959102:23
asalkeldstevebaker: ^ :-O02:23
asalkeldstarted off light on detail02:23
openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Fix typo in doc  https://review.openstack.org/16895402:25
stevebakerasalkeld: fyi, swift on its own can't be used to implement a queue02:27
asalkeldstevebaker: :-( ok02:28
stevebakerasalkeld: so it should be a zaqar only solution02:28
asalkeldk, i'll update02:28
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat-specs: Messages for users  https://review.openstack.org/16959102:46
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Make sure snapshot belongs to stack for actions  https://review.openstack.org/16876602:49
htruta_asalkeld (or any other): have a few minutes to discuss some vm migration stuff?02:54
asalkeldi guess02:54
asalkeldnot a migration guru exactly, but can try :-O02:55
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htruta_asalkeld: just was your name in an answer in ask.openstack02:55
htruta_anyway02:55
asalkeldok :-)02:56
htruta_I was thinking about proposing a MigrationPolicy02:56
htruta_with a behaviour similar to the ScalingPolicy, that is triggered through a hook02:56
asalkeldwhat do you mean by "hook"02:57
asalkeldshould probably be "heat resource-signal"02:57
htruta_a webhook, called by ceilomter alarm, for example02:57
asalkeldhtruta_: that is how policies work02:57
asalkeldhtruta_: doesn't seem outlandish, post a spec and see how it goes02:58
asalkeldexplain your use case well02:58
htruta_asalkeld: ok. So, I thought of when the policy is called, it will either say something like "migrate vm x" or "migrate some vm from host y"02:59
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htruta_but I had a problem of how the heat policy would be notified of which VM to migrate02:59
htruta_I had some gaps, that's why I didnt submit a spec yet03:00
asalkeldhtruta_: so ceilometer can't send custom payload03:00
asalkeldso that detail would need to be in the policy03:00
htruta_you mean a vm specific policy?03:01
htruta_I would need one policy for each vm/host?03:01
asalkeldwell this comes down to your use case03:01
asalkeldwhat are you trying to do?03:01
asalkeldwho would normally specify this info03:02
asalkeldsay you have a scaling group, and an alarm fires03:02
asalkeldwhat does that mean?03:02
openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Set stack status to FAILED when engine is down  https://review.openstack.org/16916003:02
asalkeldwhat is the trigger for migrating the vm?03:03
htruta_if a alarm host_cpu > 80 % is triggered, it means that I can migrate some vm of this host to avoid overloading03:03
asalkeldhtruta_: ok so the exact vm doen't really matter03:04
asalkeldso the policy can just pick one03:04
htruta_that's one example.03:04
htruta_I also imagine, for example, and autoscaling group where vms were once placed "far" from the other, and migrating them to become closer could improve performance03:05
htruta_but this is a most complex one03:05
htruta_but I think the first use case may be a good start for a spec, right?03:06
asalkeldhtruta_: yeah that a placement issue - not sure i want heat to turn into a scheduler03:06
asalkeldhtruta_: yeah start simple03:06
htruta_cool. I'll start it by tomorrow03:07
htruta_do you know anyone else that might be interested on this?03:07
asalkeldnot really03:08
asalkeld(they might be, just not aware)03:08
htruta_ok. thanks03:08
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elynnHi asalkeld , when I running command 'tox -egenconfig', I got this error. Do you know how to generate heat.conf?03:13
elynnImportError: No module named oslo_versionedobjects03:14
stevebakerelynn: you likely need to install oslo.versionedobjects03:16
elynnI check my env using pip list , and I already installed oslo.versionedobjects03:16
elynnoslo.versionedobjects (0.1.1)03:16
stevebakertry upgrading it?03:16
elynnrequirements.txt show my version is correct.03:17
elynnoslo.versionedobjects>=0.1.1,<0.2.003:17
elynnAfter upgrade it will have a try.03:18
asalkeldelynn: maybe tox -r -egenconfig03:18
asalkeld(rebuild the tox env)03:18
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elynnthanks asalkeld , that works.03:22
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asalkeldi wish mine would03:31
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stevebakerdhellmann, harlowja_away: is there a script you use to generate openstack-dev [release] messages?03:34
lifelessI believe so03:34
lifelessit was referenced by dhellmann in the discussion about having those messages on the list03:34
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KanagarajMgood morning all04:46
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KanagarajMQiming_: hi, thanks for reading my specs, and shall we discuss now ?04:54
Qiming_hi04:55
Qiming_sure. my feeling is that most of the specs are related to api changes04:56
KanagarajMyes,04:56
Qiming_I don't think we should patch the existing API interface in this way04:57
KanagarajMoh, something missing ? could you let me know if there is different approach ?04:58
KanagarajMin this kilo release, i have made some api changes in similar manner as mentioned in the spec04:58
Qiming_for some specs, the so called 'searching' is actually doable using the filter parameter04:58
KanagarajMso i tried to follow the same in the new specs.04:59
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Qiming_for some specs, I'm not sure if they are actually needed, e.g. the pagination of service list04:59
KanagarajMsure, could you suggest me on the seraching perspective, how do change the spec?05:01
Qiming_also, for the proposed changes, some are contradictary to existing conventions, e.g. users can already do a 'marker/limit' based listing05:01
KanagarajMand for pagination, its required in scale environment where many heat engines are deloyed.05:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: OS::Neutron::Port default replacement_policy=AUTO  https://review.openstack.org/16954305:02
Qiming_KanagarajM, I would suggest you try the filter parameter, and see if they meet your need, then we can come back to these specs related to search05:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Fix typo in doc  https://review.openstack.org/16895405:02
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KanagarajMQiming_: sure, could you kindly suggest me to refer some existing api.05:03
Qiming_KanagarajM, thanks for clarification. If there ARE use cases where you do have a lot of services to list.05:03
Qiming_that would make senses.05:03
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Qiming_KanagarajM, http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-orchestration-v1.html05:04
Qiming_sadly, it is not accurate05:05
KanagarajMQiming_: and i will do the following from your inputs: 1. update the seraching specs based on the filtering one 2. sync paginations spec with existing pagination model marker/limit. and update the specs. for the first one, shall i refer events seraching ?05:05
Qiming_KanagarajM, maybe you can start with the current implementation here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/api/openstack/v1/stacks.py#n19005:06
Qiming_that code means stacks can be filtered by, .e.g. status, action, username, ... etc.05:07
Qiming_Would be happy to know if there are things we need to improve there05:07
KanagarajMQiming_: sure. this will help me. i will update the specs based on this impl. with required seraching parameter in place.05:07
Qiming_okay, cool05:08
KanagarajMsure. i will find if any.05:08
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KanagarajMQiming_: api-ref, we may need to fix any invalid or inconsistency with code base, as this is developer facing api for those who consume heat.05:11
Qiming_sigh ... I once spent a whole day checking the doc and the code, and I filed a dozen of bugs05:12
KanagarajMQiming_: good and thanks :-)05:13
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KanagarajMQiming_: btw, did you get chance to review my other specs?05:14
Qiming_which one? ... the cinder volume encrpt? and the keystone resources?05:15
Qiming_not yet05:15
KanagarajMQiming_: ok.05:17
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/16917306:03
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openstackgerritLiangChen proposed openstack/heat: Docker plugin add host devices property  https://review.openstack.org/16856506:29
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ogzyi am using juno at my devstack installation, if i change the heat branch to master instead of stable/juno, will it continue to work with the rest of the installation? the problem is heat-docker plugin breaks the h-eng because it is updating the requests module06:33
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QuentinMAnyone? https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/143874106:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1438741 in heat "no such option: region_name_for_services" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to rajiv (rajiv-kumar)06:41
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asalkeldQuentinM: i am looking06:46
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QuentinMThanks asalkeld <307:10
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QuentinMI am available if necessary and I may give you an access to the system on which Heat is not working (< 10 servers)07:11
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QuentinMI am not used to OpenStack internals and debugging =/07:12
asalkeldQuentinM: it looks like a setup issue07:12
asalkelddifficult to say with that debug07:12
QuentinMI currently have Heat + Keystone V207:12
QuentinMYeah, there is absolutely no log07:12
asalkeldbut maybe check your /etc/heat/api-paste.ini07:12
QuentinMhold on07:13
QuentinMI looked the api-paste.ini yesterday but I can't identity if something is wrong in by myself *newbie*07:13
QuentinMThere is it http://pastebin.com/4vAAdt5g07:14
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asalkeldyou do have a context in the pipeline07:15
asalkeldQuentinM: i'll be back later - supper time here07:15
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QuentinMThanks07:16
QuentinMBon appétit07:16
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skraynevgood morning guys07:19
KanagarajMskraynev: good morning07:22
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skraynevKanagarajM: hi07:26
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ParsectiXHello,07:34
ParsectiXI'm wandering how I can speedup heat stack deployment and un-deployment. I have a simple stack with 8 nodes and it takes on average 5 minutes to deploy.07:34
ParsectiXI'm using a physical server as a sandbox having on it all OpenStack services and also acts as computing node. The server is not at all heavily loaded.07:34
ParsectiXIs there any guidance how I can speedup things?07:34
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shardyParsectiX: heat is unlikely to be the bottleneck, it's more likely that you need really fast storage to speed up nova spawning the VMs or similar07:51
shardyheat creates resources, then waits for them to be completed, e.g in the case of an OS::Nova::Server we wait for ACTIVE state07:52
shardyyou might consider spawning 8 nodes in a script directly via "nova boot", using the same images and flavors, my guess is the time will be about the same07:53
shardyThe best way to speed up nova booting servers is fast storage and/or small images07:53
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shardyParsectiX: the only thing you can do from a heat perspective is ensure you minimise dependencies between resources, e.g where you use depends_on or get_resource, because that will cause creation of things to be serialize07:55
shardyserialized07:55
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shardyParsectiX: obviously if e.g nova is the bottleneck then the other option is to scale it out, e.g add more compute nodes07:59
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ParsectiXshardy: Thanks for the reply. I'm using the Disks on the physical server. So how it's this bottleneck ?08:03
shardyParsectiX: how big is the image you're booting? What's the max sequential read/write time to your filesystem?08:04
shardyParsectiX: some physical disks are slow - and spawning lots of large images simultaneously is very i/o intensive08:05
shardyParsectiX: It could be something else, but IME that is often the bottleneck, even on fairly fast physical boxes with, say, a single SSD08:06
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ogzyi installed heat-docker plugin, how will i tell murano to use docker while opening the vms?08:08
ParsectiXshardy: I did't measure the  sequential read/write time. I will try doing it. I'm using the default small and rarely large.08:08
maishskwhere can I find the developer documentation for a specific Openstack release. I am looking for the Heat orchestration template reference for Icehouse - http://docs.openstack.org/hot-reference/content/openstack-resource-types.html08:08
shardyParsectiX: I mean how big is your image in glance - there's a huge difference between spawning say a cirros image and a full Fedora image or similar08:09
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shardymaishsk: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/index.html08:10
shardythat has annotations for most resources with "Available since ..."08:10
shardywe don't have docs branches per-release right now08:10
maishskshardy: thanks - but is it not possible to see what was available only in Icehouse?08:11
shardymaishsk: do you have a local icehouse heat running?08:11
ParsectiXshardy: hmm. It's about 1G each image.08:11
maishskshardy: I do08:11
shardymaishsk: can you use heat resource-type-list ?08:12
shardyI forget when we added that but it may work on icehouse08:12
shardythen you get the exact list of resources supported by your heat service08:12
maishskshardy: It does!! Thank you!08:12
shardylikewise resource-type-show for the schema08:12
shardy\o/08:12
QuentinMasalkeld This is not a setup issue I think because using the KeyStone V3 Backend, I am able to init a stack (not creating it because it uses KeyStone V3 that I don't have) and not to delete it too because of a 401 (It tries to use domain to auth I guess)08:13
QuentinMasalkeld But using the KeyStone V2 backend (https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/contrib/heat_keystoneclient_v2) I get: heatclient.exc.HTTPBadRequest: ERROR: Property error : server: image no such option: region_name_for_services08:13
shardyParsectiX: Try using a cirros image which is 13M then I think you'll get my point :)08:14
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openstackgerritLiangChen proposed openstack/heat: Docker plugin add host devices property  https://review.openstack.org/16856508:15
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cmystermorning08:17
maishskshardy: One more question if I may - is there a detailed example of what you can do with X-Container-Read and X-Container-Meta - that you have readily available?08:18
shardyQuentinM: dumb question, you have set region_name_for_services in the [DEFAULT] section of heat.conf?08:18
QuentinMSure I did :)08:18
shardyI have region_name_for_services = RegionOne in my environment08:18
QuentinMWith or without it => same issue using Keystone V2 backend08:19
shardyQuentinM: odd - we reference that in the v3 keystone plugin so it's strange that it's not working08:19
* shardy tries08:19
QuentinMregion_name_for_services=polytech08:19
QuentinMabsolutely ='(08:19
QuentinMDo you use KeystoneV2+Heat? What is your api-paste.conf, heat.conf & heat_keystoneclient_v2/client.py file ?08:22
shardyQuentinM: No, v2 is deprecated and most folks (myself included) use v308:22
QuentinMAlrighty. This is because I am usng Stackforge's Puppet modules08:23
QuentinMAnd they do not support V308:23
QuentinM><08:23
shardyQuentinM: they install keystone with v3 enabled though, no?08:23
shardyit's just that configuring v3 stuff like domains is less convenient?08:24
shardye.g see this:08:24
QuentinMTheir module still mention tenants, not projects/domains.08:24
shardyJust because they're using v2 doesn't mean heat can't use v3 AIUI, provided v3 is enabled (which it is by default)08:25
shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/160279/8/puppet/manifests/overcloud_controller.pp08:25
shardyin TripleO I believe we're using the stackforge modules, and we've just worked around the lack of v3 support08:26
shardythere's even a helper script provided by heat for that purpose08:26
QuentinMhmm08:26
shardyheat-keystone-setup-domain08:26
QuentinMyeah I saw this script before08:26
QuentinMhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/146926/08:27
QuentinMFor me, Puppet Stackforge KeyStone can't work using V308:28
shardyQuentinM: but it can install with both v3 and v2 enabled though?08:28
QuentinMI guess so08:28
shardyit's just you can't install with *only* v3 yet08:29
QuentinMoh alright08:29
shardyor at least, that's my understanding, maybe I'm wrong :)08:29
QuentinMI should create new endpoints for KeyStone V3 if I want to use both, right ?08:29
shardyhttps://github.com/stackforge/puppet-heat/blob/master/manifests/keystone/domain.pp#L5308:29
shardyQuentinM: No, that's not needed, just the v2.0 one is fine, provided keystone has v3 enabled08:30
shardywe just s/v2.0/v3 in our code from the existing endpoint08:30
shardywhich would also work in a pure-v3 environment08:30
QuentinMha yeah, that is what I've done last week to try to use KeyStone V3+V2.008:31
QuentinMs/v2.0/v3 in all my openstack deployment configuration08:31
shardyThat's probably where thr problems started I guess? ;)08:31
shardyheat at least should work fine in a v2 configured environment which also has v3 enabled08:32
QuentinMYeap =D08:32
QuentinMIt broke my entire deployment hah08:32
QuentinMI can't understand why it gives me this creepy no such option: region_name_for_services error tho08:33
shardyI think that is a heat bug, but I'd still reccomend using the v3 plugin if at all possible - that v2 shim is a workaround for a specific group of users, and it's not tested at all in our upstream CI08:34
QuentinMabsolutely08:34
shardyI think we're not registering the config options correctly in the v2 plugin - if you raise a bug I'll look into it08:35
QuentinMI submitted a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1438741 there08:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1438741 in heat "no such option: region_name_for_services" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to rajiv (rajiv-kumar)08:36
shardyQuentinM: ok, thanks08:36
QuentinMIt's me who should say thanks :)08:36
QuentinMI can provide you an access to my deployment if you desire08:36
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ParsectiXshardy: Thanks for your info :)08:47
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QuentinMThe V3 API answers actually, so I think I should just set the auth_uri to v3 in Heat and let all the rest to v2.008:57
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QuentinMSo I don't break anything08:57
shardyQuentinM: You don't even need to set v3 in the heat.conf08:58
QuentinMha yeah? using auth_uri to http://endpoint:5000/v2.0 shall work ?08:58
shardyQuentinM: yes08:59
QuentinMoh really x)08:59
shardyinternally we switch the endpoint version when needed08:59
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QuentinMgreat job hah =p08:59
shardybecause we assumed everyone would still be working in v2 environments for a while, so the code can cope with either :)08:59
shardythe V3 API for keystone just has to be running and accessible, that is all09:00
QuentinMshall just use the V3 Backend + heat-keystone-setup-domain then09:00
QuentinMIt is :)09:00
shardy+109:00
QuentinMThanks a lot09:00
shardynp, hope that resolves your problems :)09:00
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Add separate requirements.txt to integration tests  https://review.openstack.org/16929009:03
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pas-hamorning all09:19
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QuentinMTHANKS a LOT shardy09:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat-templates: Add sample multi region template  https://review.openstack.org/16811809:43
openstackgerritLiangChen proposed openstack/heat: Docker plugin add host devices property  https://review.openstack.org/16856509:48
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Set stack status to FAILED when engine is down  https://review.openstack.org/16916009:51
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openstackgerritEthan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Correct properties.Schema.NUMBER to INTEGER  https://review.openstack.org/16898609:57
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openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Fixes migrate_data utils to avoid created_at filed  https://review.openstack.org/16967810:07
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Updates migrate_repo README  https://review.openstack.org/16968010:10
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Merges sqlalchemy type unit test cases  https://review.openstack.org/16968110:12
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Keeps all db unit test cases under tests/db directory  https://review.openstack.org/16968210:12
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Keeps all db unit test cases under tests/db directory  https://review.openstack.org/16968210:20
openstackgerritKanagaraj Manickam proposed openstack/heat: Merges sqlalchemy type unit test cases  https://review.openstack.org/16968110:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Prove that we can't signal during a suspend  https://review.openstack.org/16957611:53
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asalkeldmeeting time11:59
bdossantHi! I'm creating a heat plugin via this documentation http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/pluginguide.html Can you point me to some code to get the stack owner ?12:02
pas-haby the owner you mean?12:09
bdossantthe user that created the stack12:10
bdossanttypically theres an attribute in a stack called stack owner12:11
bdossantif you do heat stack-show12:11
asalkeldstack.owner_id12:12
bdossanthum yeah12:12
bdossanti tried that but it was empty, probably im not instantiating the class correctly12:12
therveowner_id is not the user who created the stack12:15
thervestack.username may be what you're looking for12:16
bdossantporbably12:17
bdossant*probably12:17
asalkelddoh, sorry therve you right12:17
asalkeldor you can look at the context12:17
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therveyeah self.context ought to contain all the info that you need12:19
zanebNew: stack fails when creating with user admin12:20
zanebthat's one for the books12:20
zanebnormally we have the opposite problem...12:20
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ryansbzaneb: is there an lp for that?12:24
zanebno, it's in bugzilla12:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Add separate requirements.txt to integration tests  https://review.openstack.org/16929012:32
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Use HeatTestCase as parent instead of testtools  https://review.openstack.org/16929612:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Re-factor db sqlalchemy tests  https://review.openstack.org/16932412:33
openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Create an event when signalling fails  https://review.openstack.org/16972512:34
asalkeldshardy: ^12:34
asalkeldthat should make that funct. test better12:34
kbsShould using %index% within a resource group to dereference a CommaDelimitedList work? Trying to set the host property for a OS::Nova::Server via name: {get_param: [list_of_hosts, %index%]} results in a randomized host name rather than the desired host name in the list.12:35
asalkeldphew not sure kbs12:35
* asalkeld heads to bed, getting later here12:35
asalkeldnight all12:35
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bdossanttherve: self.context.username is what i was looking for. thanks!12:41
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dmn_shardy, In this template http://paste.openstack.org/show/197775/, is there any other way to give the configuration file contents to the template other than get_file?13:24
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openstackgerritSergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Deprecate using required=True with default value  https://review.openstack.org/11661513:27
-openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been restarted to restore event streaming. any change events missed by zuul (between 12:48 and 13:28 utc) will need to be rechecked or have new approval votes set13:27
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shardydmn_: yes, you can just specify it inline13:28
shardyhttps://github.com/hardys/heat-templates/blob/docker-host/hot/software-config/example-templates/example-docker-script.yaml#L4313:30
shardydmn_: ^^ example13:30
dmn_thanks :)13:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/heat: Fixes migrate_data utils to avoid created_at filed  https://review.openstack.org/16967813:47
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shardyskraynev: Hi I commented on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169531/13:52
shardymaybe zaneb can confirm, as he's the scheduler expert, but AFAICS the docs are still correct?13:53
skraynevshardy: yeah you are right13:54
dmn_shardy: Is this right - http://paste.openstack.org/show/197780/?13:54
pas-halol http://closedstack.org/13:54
shardyskraynev: it is a bit confusing I admit :)13:54
skraynevI read it as: The task will sleep for `wait_time` seconds13:54
skraynevmissed the most important: between steps13:55
shardy"The task will sleep for `wait_time` seconds between steps"13:55
skraynevyeah.13:55
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skraynevshardy: can we approve it without bug_id?13:57
skraynevshardy: I just wonder it according your comment13:58
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dmn_shardy: It doesn't look like you can specify ansible configuration inline in config. It throws an "config Value must be a string" error.14:00
shardyskraynev: we can, I'd prefer it if we had a bug though as it's easier to track for backports - it looks like something we'll want to backport to stable14:00
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shardyskraynev: maybe I'll just raise one and we can update the commit message14:00
skraynevshardy: make sense for me :) ping me for approving14:01
shardydmn_: you're missing the config: | I think14:01
shardyyour current yaml will parse as a list of dicts14:01
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dmn_shardy: My bad.14:26
dmn_It worked. Thanks.14:26
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zanebdoes anyone else see a giant clippy the paperclip hovering on https://review.openstack.org/#/ or have I finally lost the plot?14:27
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rakesh_hsI also see it since morning :)14:29
zanebI guess it's April 1 again14:29
jruanoi see it, funny14:29
rakesh_hsha ha.. But would be a distraction to reviewers14:30
jasondi had a brief moment of panic when i saw that before i realized it was an april fools joke :)14:31
jasondsince i'm working on a mac now, it seemed possible14:31
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rakesh_hsfirst thing ppl would think is.. did it pop out of my MS word.. lost its way!14:32
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mslyanyone here run into this bug while doing heat autoscaling? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/142158414:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1421584 in Ceilometer "cpu_util volume won't report right for cpu over commit case" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Ilya Tyaptin (ityaptin)14:34
jasondrakesh_hs: haha, yep14:34
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ryansbzaneb: the rest of us see the clippy, but that doesn't mean you haven't lost the plot14:35
ryansbrakesh_hs++14:35
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zanebryansb: yes, I realise those were not mutually-exclusive options14:37
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openstackgerritTomas Sedovic proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Remove the deprecated shell commands  https://review.openstack.org/16762214:55
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spzalazaneb: hmmm... I don't see it16:25
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zanebspzala: yeah, looks like they took it down again16:29
spzalazaneb: LOL... well that was for April 1 ... tried :)16:30
spzalazaneb: but you did better... I still see it :-)16:30
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zanebthe best thing about moving to the US is that you only have to put up with 1 day of April Fools jokes instead of 2 ;)16:31
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spzala:-) but it's a working day instead of holiday16:35
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harlowjastevebaker http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/release-tools/tree/release_notes.py17:03
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harlowjai think thats what u want17:03
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openstackgerritRabi Mishra proposed openstack/heat: Fix stack-update for OS::Nova::Server resource  https://review.openstack.org/16984817:20
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add functional tests for stack tags/hidden stacks  https://review.openstack.org/15334318:24
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sdakeshardy nice post19:05
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sdakestill processing the templates, but initial reaction lgtm :)19:05
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shardysdake: great, thanks19:10
shardyjust wanted to get some ideas out there so we can start working through it19:10
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shardyI know Ian and Ryan have been working with the kolla community re the kolla/docker parts, so it's a question of how we combine that with the work ramishra is doing19:11
shardyI'm pretty excited about it :)19:11
sdakeyar- ryan has a docker container that laucnhes itself on atomic19:12
sdakeusing some label magic incantation19:12
shardysdake: yup, that's derived from ramishra's work I believe19:12
shardynow we need to mangle things so we can launch the services transparently on TripleO, without touching the top-level template interfaces :)19:12
shardyit actually looks not-too-hard19:12
shardy(famous last words..)19:13
sdakei think we are still going to head down the road of ansible - if the community wants to implement it19:13
sdakejob of ptl to act as guide - take these guys on a trip :)19:13
sdakenot dictate :)19:13
sdakebut you nkow that already :)19:14
shardysdake: sure, I guess it's all about choice - I still think there's value in TripleO as an alternative integration point19:14
sdakeoracle wantst o do maestro-ng integation with kolla as well19:14
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sdakewe have already agreed upstream in the core team we will integrate with whoever comes to play :)19:15
sdakethat is why the word "optional" was in my post about ansible deployment with kolla19:16
shardysdake: cool, sounds good19:16
sdakeshardy I think k3 of kolla made all the difference in the world19:20
sdakeI'm glad I didn't give up :)19:20
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openstackgerritJason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add ability to filter stacks by tag  https://review.openstack.org/16053719:56
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed openstack/heat: Ignore migrating environments for deleted stacks  https://review.openstack.org/16485620:05
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QuentinMI was wondering. In the AutoScaling HOT template, what could we do if the MySQL Server Instance crashes ? How to restart the instance ? Using Autoscaling with min=max=1 + ask the template to use an existing volume if possible ?20:21
QuentinMWhat is the good way to think ~~20:21
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Make README.rst comply with expected format  https://review.openstack.org/16992821:41
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stevebakerharlowja: thanks for that21:44
harlowjanp21:44
stevebakerasalkeld: should we put this in rc1? https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/143907121:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1439071 in heat "stack-update with OS::Nova::Server resource fails when using 'network name' rather than 'network id'" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Rabi Mishra (rabi)21:44
harlowjahttps://github.com/stackforge/cloud-init is active btw21:44
harlowjabeware!21:44
harlowjaha21:44
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stevebakerharlowja: ah, what does that mean for development process? is this a fork or the official repo?21:45
harlowjastevebaker new offical repo21:45
harlowjaof the next-generation of cloudinit21:45
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harlowja*Existing one will still exist21:45
harlowjauntil next-generation is ready21:46
stevebakerrewrites sound scary21:47
harlowjameh; i drove to work today21:48
harlowjathats scary sometimes to21:48
harlowjabut we survive21:48
harlowjalol21:48
harlowjawasn't some redhat product recently a rewrite (openshitft?)21:49
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harlowjasp faillll21:49
stevebakerActually one thing Atomic needs is a boot agent that doesn't pull in the python stack. cloud-init is the only thing which needs python, and makes the image way bigger21:51
harlowjaway bigger?21:52
harlowjalike 10mb?21:52
stevebakerI don't know specifically21:54
* harlowja didn't think the python stack was that big in general, but idk21:55
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harlowjamaybe 10mb -> 25mb; or something21:55
harlowjawhich doesn't seem to big21:55
harlowjabut i guess it depends on how many floppies u have21:56
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stevebakerI could see that a ~10% saving would be desirable21:58
stevebakerhttp://ucmirror.canterbury.ac.nz/linux/fedora/linux/releases/21/Cloud/Images/x86_64/21:59
harlowjaguess time to invest in micropython or something21:59
harlowjahttp://micropython.org/21:59
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stevebakerzaneb: to sleep? perchance to dream? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169531 vs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169532/22:13
stevebakerlooks like we could take that sleep out entirely22:13
zanebI don't think it's a bad thing to have in there22:13
zanebgenerally it will occur between e.g. handle_create and check_create_complete22:14
zanebthat's not a bad time to give other threads a go22:14
stevebakeryeah, an explicit yield seems polite22:14
zanebeven if it is a waste of time to sleep22:14
zaneb(for 1s)22:14
stevebakerok, i'll abandon the second one22:15
zanebkk22:15
asalkeldmorning22:15
zanebasalkeld: o/22:16
asalkeldyo zaneb22:16
asalkelddon't see you much anymore, being in the us22:17
zanebif you're here again I think that means I've done enough work for today ;)22:17
asalkeldhuh?22:17
zanebasalkeld: you've had a whole night's sleep since I started work this morning22:18
asalkeldaa, yep22:18
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asalkeldstevebaker: that bug is now on the rc1 list22:19
stevebakerasalkeld: ta22:20
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asalkeldbrb, school run22:24
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stevebakerasalkeld: ok if this goes in rc1? https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/143921622:28
openstackLaunchpad bug 1439216 in heat "Scheduler don't sleep before first step" [Undecided,New]22:28
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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Do sleep(0) for first task sleep  https://review.openstack.org/16953122:35
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Enable software config integration test  https://review.openstack.org/16528722:38
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stevebakerwww.nebula.com22:51
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asalkeldwow23:00
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asalkeldit's in rc1 stevebaker23:03
stevebakerasalkeld: chur23:03
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Create an event when signalling fails  https://review.openstack.org/16972523:15
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asalkeldhttps://review.openstack.org/#/dashboard/?foreach=%28project%3Aopenstack%2Fheat%29+status%3Aopen+&title=Priortized+Bug+Fix+Dashboard&Milestone%3Akilo%252Drc1+Importance+High=change%3A168267+OR+change%3A164856+OR+change%3A169848&Milestone%3Akilo%252Drc1+Importance+Medium=change%3A16972523:34
asalkeldstevebaker: ^23:34
asalkeldrc1 reviews23:34
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