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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Fix Typo in composition guide https://review.openstack.org/158960 | 00:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Increase default for 'max_nested_stack_depth' to 5 https://review.openstack.org/159493 | 00:44 |
asalkeld | on a positive note my bad spelling seems to be paying lots of peoples summit tickets :-) | 00:51 |
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ramishra | stevebaker: Hi! you around? I'm thinking of converting docker hook to use 'docker-compose' rather than 'docker-py'. So we would have 2 hooks docker-hook and kubelet-hook. Your thoughts?? | 02:17 |
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openstackgerrit | Miguel Grinberg proposed openstack/heat: "repeat" function for HOT templates https://review.openstack.org/156744 | 02:37 |
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stevebaker | ramishra: what is required to install docker-compose? | 03:32 |
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ramishra | stevebaker: pip install -U docker-compose | 04:08 |
stevebaker | ah, its all python | 04:08 |
ramishra | yep | 04:08 |
stevebaker | yeah, I'm all for a docker-compose hook | 04:08 |
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stevebaker | ramishra: and since there is no configuration format for declaring docker-py calls I'm happy for us to just have a docker-compose hook and a kubelet hook | 04:11 |
ramishra | ok.. i'll start working on it.. In spite of the fact docker-py is officially maintained by docker, it seems more appropriate to move to docker-compose.. | 04:11 |
stevebaker | ye[ | 04:11 |
stevebaker | p | 04:11 |
stevebaker | hopefully there is enough in place now that you can write unit tests as you go | 04:12 |
ramishra | I was thinking of docker hook to use the app container format, https://github.com/coreos/rocket/blob/master/Documentation/app-container.md | 04:14 |
ramishra | but then this is not yet accepted by docker community as an accepted format.. | 04:14 |
stevebaker | oh, a 3rd hook for rocket ;) | 04:22 |
stevebaker | also we need to figure out how to wire up these hooks in a container so that heat can boot an unmodified atomic/coreos and install the hook by running the hook container on boot | 04:24 |
ramishra | yeah.. docker-compose is expected to work with swarm(docker native clustering), but AFAIK nothing is there yet.. So it's single host at the moment... | 04:24 |
stevebaker | lets not even think about swarm yet | 04:25 |
ramishra | yep.. | 04:28 |
ramishra | IMO, that's tricky one.. I've not seen any work to run kubelet in a container though.. Kueblet is not a separate package yet.. | 04:30 |
stevebaker | actually kubelet may be an exception since it will be on coreos/atomic already? | 04:42 |
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ramishra | may be.. atm it's not there coreos. Not sure whether it would be there in the future. not sure about atomic.. 'll check. | 04:52 |
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ramishra | I think should be possible to have kubelet in a container without etcd.. Not seen anyone doing it. | 04:55 |
ramishra | may be wrong though | 04:56 |
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ramishra | kubernetes/docker comes pre-installed on atomic. | 05:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Handle deleting status during volume detachment https://review.openstack.org/159583 | 05:18 |
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inc0 | good morning | 07:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Apply neutron port constraint https://review.openstack.org/135835 | 07:25 |
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ananta | rakesh_hs: hu | 07:42 |
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rakesh_hs | ananta: Hi GA | 07:47 |
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skraynev | good morning | 07:57 |
asalkeld | hi al | 08:02 |
asalkeld | all | 08:02 |
openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Create an integer id for the resource table https://review.openstack.org/159741 | 08:09 |
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asalkeld | tlashchova: that is a start at the resource.id bug ^ | 08:10 |
asalkeld | still lots to do | 08:11 |
asalkeld | (friday evening my time) | 08:11 |
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inc0 | asalkeld, I'm working on this query for resource count - n+1 queries for count, where n is maximum nested depth looks good? I don't think I could go any better with this schema:/ | 08:19 |
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inc0 | still...unless people go really crazy with nesting, it should be ok | 08:20 |
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shardy | morning all | 08:25 |
inc0 | hi shardy | 08:32 |
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inc0 | guys, do I have take into account situation, when we call Stack.total_resources in a moment, when these aren't in database? | 09:00 |
inc0 | by these I mean resources | 09:01 |
asalkeld | inc0: yeah during validate and preview | 09:03 |
asalkeld | that is problamatic | 09:03 |
inc0 | damn... | 09:03 |
asalkeld | maybe we can ditch that and only test this on create/update? | 09:03 |
asalkeld | this will only get worse with convergence | 09:04 |
inc0 | I don't know, can we?:) I could think of some algorythmic way for this count, but that would be neckbreaking | 09:04 |
asalkeld | as all resources are distibuted | 09:04 |
inc0 | well database approach will work with convergence | 09:05 |
asalkeld | i am not sure if we are distrubuting the validate/preview | 09:05 |
shardy | Given how short-running the validate/preview is, I'm not sure it's worth distributing? | 09:09 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Use mock instead of mox for test_nested_stack.py https://review.openstack.org/159510 | 09:09 |
inc0 | when total_resources becomes problem? | 09:09 |
asalkeld | shardy: it's just the mess of doing things in different ways | 09:09 |
inc0 | during validate and preview? | 09:09 |
shardy | asalkeld: Yeah, I'm not really clear how that will pan out for convergence | 09:10 |
asalkeld | me neither | 09:10 |
inc0 | we could try to make iterative (instead of recursive) way to count total_resources | 09:11 |
inc0 | that would save memory | 09:11 |
asalkeld | if you can inc0 , sounds good | 09:11 |
inc0 | would that solve initial problem of increasing nested depth limit? | 09:12 |
asalkeld | what's a pain is loading all these stacks in every stack | 09:12 |
inc0 | hmm...then maybe use different function for preview and validate? | 09:12 |
inc0 | old one for validate and optimized db-based for rest? | 09:13 |
asalkeld | yeah, or use memcache for validate | 09:13 |
asalkeld | :-O | 09:13 |
inc0 | thats getting messy.. | 09:13 |
inc0 | loading all the stacks all the time will be issue even with linear algorithm...we'll just save a bit of memory during execution | 09:15 |
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inc0 | I have idea, let me code that down | 09:23 |
pas-ha | morning all | 09:24 |
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inc0 | hi pas-ha | 09:28 |
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inc0 | another question...is this function called anywhere besides validation? | 09:30 |
inc0 | because it seems it is not... | 09:31 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add functional test for AWS loadbalancer https://review.openstack.org/153192 | 09:38 |
openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add ability to pass parameters during update https://review.openstack.org/159763 | 09:38 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add sahara image constraint https://review.openstack.org/150076 | 09:50 |
openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Utility for database migration. https://review.openstack.org/159443 | 09:51 |
openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kuznetsova proposed openstack/heat: Integration scenario test refactoring https://review.openstack.org/159057 | 09:52 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add image_id property to node group template https://review.openstack.org/139989 | 09:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Anastasia Kuznetsova proposed openstack/heat: Integration scenario test refactoring https://review.openstack.org/159057 | 09:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Sirushti Murugesan proposed openstack/heat: Convergence: Use cached values when resolving template functions https://review.openstack.org/159774 | 10:08 |
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skraynev | inc0: hi | 10:15 |
inc0 | hi skraynev | 10:15 |
skraynev | about your comment for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159443/ | 10:15 |
inc0 | yeah? | 10:16 |
skraynev | I agree, that it's good candidate for oslo.db | 10:16 |
inc0 | :) | 10:16 |
skraynev | but I think, that will be better get it now in our repo | 10:16 |
inc0 | why? | 10:16 |
skraynev | because we want to use it now and more then one patches requires such utility | 10:17 |
inc0 | for testing? | 10:17 |
inc0 | or for production? | 10:17 |
skraynev | first of all for testing ;) | 10:17 |
skraynev | I am not sure, that somebody use sqlite in production | 10:18 |
inc0 | hmm...then maybe prepare local testing env with this patch? | 10:18 |
inc0 | I would distrust such person | 10:18 |
inc0 | I mean, you could propose patch to oslo.db and locally use oslo.db with this patch applied | 10:18 |
inc0 | having this in heat main repo seems...unclean | 10:19 |
inc0 | moreover, if we implement that, someone might start using it...and we're stuck with this thing forever | 10:19 |
skraynev | if It be temporary I did not see any bad in it | 10:19 |
skraynev | the main reason for me, that I don't want to use upstream code from oslo.db and don't want to wait new release | 10:20 |
skraynev | release for oslo.db | 10:20 |
inc0 | just yesterday I had lengthy talk with dhellman about how people tend to use everythin thats available...even if it was supposed to be temporary or unstable;) | 10:20 |
inc0 | hence having local oslo.db with patch applied | 10:21 |
inc0 | I mean, its just checking out oslo and branchiing it... | 10:21 |
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skraynev | ok, what about case, on gates? | 10:22 |
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inc0 | Depends-On | 10:22 |
skraynev | if our code use "patched local oslo.db" | 10:22 |
skraynev | depends-on oslo? | 10:22 |
skraynev | from Heat code | 10:22 |
inc0 | you can apply gerrit dependency between projects now | 10:23 |
inc0 | its new feature- few weeks tops | 10:23 |
inc0 | but its there | 10:23 |
skraynev | hm. interesting. need take a look | 10:23 |
skraynev | but still.. have all convergence stuff depends on one oslo patch... | 10:24 |
skraynev | looks worse, then use our local implemenation of utility | 10:24 |
skraynev | till we have not such in new oslo.db release | 10:25 |
inc0 | well, I don't think thats really bad | 10:25 |
inc0 | as you've said, its just for testing | 10:26 |
skraynev | ok ;) we need one more person | 10:26 |
ananta | I think it will help us now... at least from kilo perspective that we do it in Heat...we can always refactor later and push in oslo.db | 10:26 |
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skraynev | for me it is for testing, because I don't believe that someone use sqlite in production | 10:27 |
inc0 | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056515.html look at this thread | 10:27 |
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inc0 | ananta, I'm afraid that such things would make people use it | 10:27 |
inc0 | especially if it'll carry on to Kilo release | 10:27 |
skraynev | shardy: asalkeld: ping | 10:28 |
inc0 | code is hard to get rid of - look at HARestarter | 10:28 |
shardy | skraynev: hi | 10:28 |
skraynev | Could you spent couple minutes for discussion above | 10:28 |
skraynev | shardy: hi. | 10:28 |
skraynev | shardy: ^ | 10:28 |
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shardy | If the clone_table thing is only needed for testing, why not put it in test_utils? | 10:33 |
shardy | It seems a weird thing to want to do in a non-test situation | 10:33 |
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shardy | skraynev, inc0: ^^ | 10:34 |
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skraynev | shardy: make sense for me. | 10:35 |
inc0 | yeah, I could agree to that as well. Just don't put it into main code tree. And make patch to oslo.db - then get rid of it from head...ok? | 10:36 |
inc0 | heat* | 10:36 |
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skraynev | inc0: +2 | 10:40 |
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skraynev | ananta: ^ | 10:40 |
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skraynev | shardy: thx ;) | 10:40 |
inc0 | cool, then we're in agreement:) thanks guys! | 10:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: First objects - stack and raw template https://review.openstack.org/146841 | 10:46 |
inc0 | let see how cross-projects dependencies works in practice;) | 10:47 |
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inc0 | meh, it doesn't work on gates... | 11:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add stack_tag table and remove stack.tags column https://review.openstack.org/155496 | 11:10 |
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ananta | skraynev: this utils is needed in migration scripts... and we implement sqlite migration there | 11:31 |
ananta | i am okay to move it to tests dir, but then the migration scripts would import from tests which doesn't look clean | 11:32 |
ananta | sorry I was away for some time :) | 11:32 |
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ananta | shardy: ^ | 11:39 |
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skraynev | shardy: ananta: as was mentioned before, I have not hear about customers who use sqlite in production. So downgrade way for sqlite which uses some utility in test sounds ok for me. | 11:47 |
ananta | skraynev: I think the best then would be to carve out the migration scripts for testing (based on sqlite) to testing folder :) | 11:49 |
ananta | I think that is more clean approach... do you agree? | 11:49 |
inc0 | ananta, +1 - least unused code in heat main tree the better | 11:50 |
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inc0 | if something is just used at tests, it belongs to test folder imho | 11:50 |
skraynev | not sure in this case. from one side I agree about splitting it due to using it only as test stuff, but from other side I don't like to have related code (which easy read in one file) in different place. | 11:52 |
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ananta | skraynev: actually in many of the files we have a 1 to 1 mapping for migration to sqlite... and in many other trivial cases we don't need sqlite specific stuff...so i think we should write the special cases where we need sqlite stuff into the test directory and import the function into actual migration scripts | 11:54 |
ananta | instead of just bloating the actual migration scripts | 11:55 |
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ananta | the migrations scripts should have actual migration code, and when sqlite related code is needed it should just be imported from tests_sqlite* files in tests dir... this would be cleaner because the test runs actual migration scripts | 11:57 |
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skraynev | ananta: so functions as _downgrade_sqlite_** will be just imported in migration scripts and main code will be hosted in testing directories, right? | 12:00 |
ananta | skraynev: yup | 12:01 |
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skraynev | ok. I think it possible, however I am only one from community :) I think the right way will be send email with such solution to openstack-dev. | 12:03 |
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skraynev | may be such idea will be implemented in other projects too ;) | 12:04 |
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skraynev | ananta: may you do it? | 12:04 |
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ananta | skraynev: :) I can...but I doubt Kilo...I have some convergence related BPs to be implemented :( | 12:05 |
ananta | skraynev: and I am going on vacation from 5th march and would be back only after Kilo-3 freeze | 12:06 |
skraynev | ananta: I am ok, if it will not be done in Kilo ;) Just want to have BP or email thread at least do not forget to propagate it | 12:06 |
ananta | skraynev: sure, I can do that! | 12:06 |
skraynev | ananta: I know;) and also heard about reason. | 12:07 |
ananta | ;) | 12:07 |
skraynev | ananta: my congrats :) | 12:08 |
ananta | skraynev: thank-you Sergey! | 12:09 |
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dmn | shardy: Is it possible to schedule os-collect-config to collect data from the metadata server? | 12:28 |
shardy | dmn: Yes, that's basically what it already does | 12:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Utility for database migration. https://review.openstack.org/159443 | 13:25 |
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dimsum__ | hi, we are talking about #heat and it's use of #oslo-messaging (for random named queues for bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1414674) over on #openstack-oslo, can someone please join us? | 13:41 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1414674 in oslo.messaging "Number of Rabbitmq queues is growing from failover to failover" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to sajuptpm (sajuptpm) | 13:41 |
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therve | dimsum__, Coming | 13:51 |
dimsum__ | therve: thanks! | 13:52 |
therve | Oh shardy is there already | 13:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Add extra data to Stack table for Convergence. https://review.openstack.org/155211 | 14:20 |
openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat: Utility for database migration. https://review.openstack.org/159443 | 14:20 |
dimsum__ | yay, thanks everyone for responding! | 14:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Mistral::Workflow for Mistral workflows https://review.openstack.org/147645 | 14:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add resource_definitions check to Stack.validate https://review.openstack.org/140976 | 14:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Tetiana Lashchova proposed openstack/heat: Add OS::Mistral::CronTrigger resource https://review.openstack.org/149327 | 15:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/heat: Change the engine-listener topic https://review.openstack.org/159876 | 15:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add resource_definitions check to Stack.validate https://review.openstack.org/140976 | 15:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add resource_definitions check to Stack.validate https://review.openstack.org/140976 | 15:46 |
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dmn | #heat | 16:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Karolyn Chambers proposed openstack/heat: Implements stack lifecycle scheduler hints https://review.openstack.org/96889 | 17:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Drago proposed openstack/heat: Retrieve service catalog when it is missing https://review.openstack.org/159554 | 18:48 |
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kieleth | hi, checking if someone has managed to do HA in instances, similar to HARestarter, but with ceilometer alerts? | 19:21 |
kieleth | I know the self-healing resources are coming | 19:21 |
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zaneb | kieleth: I'm sure sure if anyone has got it working, but the thread "Application level HA via Heat" on openstack-dev would be a good place to start reading | 19:40 |
zaneb | s/sure sure/not sure/ | 19:40 |
kieleth | zaneb, thanks a lot for the tip, I'll dig there | 19:41 |
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zaneb | kieleth: sure, np. shardy probably has the most knowledge about it, but he's unlikely to be around at this time on a Friday night if he knows what's good for him ;) | 19:42 |
kieleth | zaneb, great, this is pacific time, so full Friday here still ahead :) | 19:44 |
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zaneb | kieleth: ah, yeah, he's in the UK so you'd have to time it just right to catch him | 19:44 |
ryansb | or use the ML. email knows no time zone. | 19:45 |
zaneb | actually I think this is more of an ask.openstack.org question | 19:46 |
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fiorix | hi, I have a question | 19:46 |
ryansb | gp zaneb. Indeed it would be | 19:46 |
fiorix | how can I use get_attr to get the ip address of a particular network of an instance? | 19:46 |
fiorix | the first_address doesn't work for me because I have 2 networks in that instance | 19:47 |
openstackgerrit | Drago proposed openstack/heat: Retrieve service catalog when it is missing https://review.openstack.org/159554 | 19:47 |
fiorix | I tried get_attr: [ instance, networks, my_network_net, 0 ] but didn't work either | 19:47 |
zaneb | fiorix: something like that should work | 19:48 |
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zaneb | fiorix: assuming you have (IIRC) Icehouse or later | 19:48 |
fiorix | this is on icehouse | 19:48 |
fiorix | the 3rd parameter there, all examples use "private" | 19:49 |
fiorix | but im trying with the name of my network actually | 19:49 |
zaneb | I thought it was {get_attr: [ instance, networks, 0 ]} but I could easily be wrong | 19:49 |
fiorix | what i have is this: | 19:49 |
fiorix | networks: | 19:49 |
fiorix | - network: { get_resource: control_net } | 19:49 |
fiorix | - network: { get_resource: service_net } | 19:49 |
fiorix | and I want the addr of the control_net | 19:49 |
fiorix | so that [ instance, networks, control_net, 0 ] returns empty | 19:50 |
fiorix | maybe im missing something | 19:50 |
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zaneb | OK, it is {get_attr: [<server name>, networks, <network name>, 0]} according to the docs | 19:50 |
zaneb | so you were right | 19:51 |
zaneb | it's possible that feature only landed in Juno | 19:51 |
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fiorix | mmm in my instance under networks: they have no name actually | 19:51 |
fiorix | they are just "network: { get_resource... " | 19:52 |
fiorix | maybe there's a way to associate a name to each one? | 19:52 |
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zaneb | fiorix: you may need to use the UUID of the network, perhaps? | 19:53 |
zaneb | I'm not sure how Nova fills in the names | 19:53 |
zaneb | {get_attr: [instance, networks, {get_resource: control_net}, 0]} | 19:54 |
zaneb | try that ^ maybe? | 19:54 |
fiorix | let me try | 19:55 |
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zaneb | actually, easiest way to tell | 19:55 |
zaneb | add an output that returns {get_attr: [instance, networks]} | 19:55 |
zaneb | then you'll see immediately exactly what the keys you need to match are | 19:56 |
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fiorix | let me try the output | 19:58 |
fiorix | the embedded get_resource didn't work, still get empty string | 19:58 |
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fiorix | zaneb: when i do heat output-show stack my-stuff it returns nothing | 20:09 |
fiorix | any ideas? | 20:09 |
zaneb | define "nothing" | 20:09 |
fiorix | $ command | 20:10 |
fiorix | $ | 20:10 |
fiorix | nothing | 20:10 |
zaneb | ok, that's really nothing | 20:10 |
fiorix | :) | 20:10 |
fiorix | damn this thing, i feel so stupid. | 20:10 |
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zaneb | I really have no ideas on that one :/ | 20:11 |
fiorix | i think the stack failed to create actually | 20:12 |
fiorix | due to no more floating ips available | 20:12 |
fiorix | let me check on that... | 20:12 |
zaneb | fiorix: ah, here is the feature https://github.com/openstack/heat/commit/eca6faa83e13a43546f7533b52e0fd3071fd97d4 - it didn't land until Juno | 20:13 |
zaneb | so that's why it's not working in Icehouse | 20:13 |
zaneb | or actually no, that was something different | 20:14 |
zaneb | just ignore me | 20:14 |
fiorix | ok | 20:14 |
fiorix | worst case I make it a static ip in a port and get the fixed_address, but I really need to make it work with dynamic IP | 20:14 |
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zaneb | can you rearrange the order of the networks so that first_address ends up being the one you want maybe? | 20:16 |
fiorix | it's kinda random right.. when I look at them in horizon they are flipped on every stack.. | 20:17 |
fiorix | when python turns that into a map they are not guaranteed any order | 20:17 |
fiorix | the "networks:" map | 20:18 |
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zaneb | ah, right, yeah it depends on how Python hashes each key | 20:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Miguel Grinberg proposed openstack/heat: "repeat" function for HOT templates https://review.openstack.org/156744 | 20:28 |
fiorix | zaneb: i found the issue. my control_net has a fancy name when i create it, will fix that | 20:28 |
fiorix | :) | 20:28 |
zaneb | fiorix: excellent :) | 20:28 |
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fiorix | thank you very much | 20:31 |
fiorix | back to work now :) | 20:31 |
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