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| asalkeld | wow, feeling totally spoilt - I have working aircon and fibre to the home:-) | 02:36 |
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| Qiming | asalkeld, +1 | 02:40 |
| asalkeld | last 3 weeks have been a sweat shop with broken aircon | 02:40 |
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| stevebaker | living the dream | 02:46 |
| asalkeld | har, it's all relative | 02:48 |
| asalkeld | 3 weeks of 30-39 degrees and ~80 humidity and you will crave some coolness | 02:49 |
| stevebaker | ug | 02:50 |
| asalkeld | damn, our logs are chatty | 02:50 |
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| Qiming | is it a good season for touring AU and NZ? | 03:12 |
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| Qiming | looks like the weather is pretty good | 03:13 |
| stevebaker | yep, from now on is best NZ weather | 03:13 |
| Qiming | my 'manager at home' is coming back from the States, I will propose a trip to the Oceania | 03:15 |
| Qiming | hope can get a +2 quickly, :P | 03:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-cfntools: Support dnf when specified or yum is missing https://review.openstack.org/142512 | 03:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed openstack/heat-specs: Retry stack operation after stack has failed. https://review.openstack.org/148422 | 04:44 |
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| asalkeld | KanagarajM, re: review https://review.openstack.org/146044 | 05:37 |
| asalkeld | (lets keep this discussion here) | 05:38 |
| asalkeld | i am just concerned this changes how operators need to deploy heat | 05:38 |
| asalkeld | now nodes that run heat-api need access to the db | 05:38 |
| KanagarajM | yes, i see that the cloud controller node always has the access to db | 05:39 |
| asalkeld | KanagarajM, "cloud controller" ? | 05:39 |
| KanagarajM | asalkeld: and other services also follows it, and heat-api is deployed on the cloud controller mostly, | 05:39 |
| asalkeld | not sure that is a wide spread concept | 05:40 |
| asalkeld | (out side nova) | 05:40 |
| KanagarajM | asalkeld: i mean the cloud controller is one where all the service api get deployed mostly like nova, cinder, glance apis | 05:40 |
| KanagarajM | asalkeld: and i noticed that nova,cinder, neutron service's 'service-list' api does the db lookup directly. | 05:41 |
| asalkeld | KanagarajM, so wouldn't heat-api then need to init the db connection? | 05:42 |
| stevebaker | KanagarajM: yes, asalkeld is right, heat-api will *never* talk directly to the db, so this change will need new rpc calls | 05:42 |
| asalkeld | KanagarajM, i am not massively against this - just concerned this will effect deployment | 05:43 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker, he has a point | 05:43 |
| asalkeld | stevebaker, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146044/2/heat/api/openstack/v1/services.py | 05:43 |
| asalkeld | basically you are using the engine to get at the health of the engine | 05:44 |
| asalkeld | (normally you need to assume it is untrustworthy) | 05:44 |
| KanagarajM | ok. Then let us go with fall back option, that add rpc api, and in case of all engines are down in the system, then report that as INTERNAL SERVER ERROR with proper 'error message' in the body. | 05:44 |
| KanagarajM | ok | 05:45 |
| asalkeld | KanagarajM, i think it needs a bit more discussion | 05:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Return available info for uncreated resource https://review.openstack.org/143425 | 05:45 |
| asalkeld | you have a point there | 05:45 |
| asalkeld | KanagarajM, maybe ping shardy a bit later too | 05:46 |
| stevebaker | i guess if there are zero working engines then you have bigger issues, and at least INTERNAL_SERVER_ERROR would still tell you that | 05:46 |
| cmyster | morning | 05:46 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, one thing: this seems to be a common pattern in the other services | 05:46 |
| asalkeld | tho' this potentially makes upgrades a bit messier | 05:47 |
| asalkeld | the db is less isolated | 05:47 |
| asalkeld | KanagarajM, you sure this is the case in nova | 05:47 |
| asalkeld | i thought all db access was behind nova-conductor | 05:48 |
| stevebaker | maybe nova would prefer to do this via the conductor but it has been too low priority to get done | 05:48 |
| cmyster | internal server error... not service unavailable ? (503 vs 500 which is too generic) | 05:48 |
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| stevebaker | cmyster: +1, 503 | 05:48 |
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| KanagarajM | yes i sure on the nova side. let me confirm | 05:48 |
| asalkeld | KanagarajM, also maybe ask "would they do it like this if they did it again" | 05:49 |
| asalkeld | how does this effect upgrades | 05:49 |
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| KanagarajM | I also getting convinced when we see the upgrade and go with 503. | 05:50 |
| stevebaker | yes, lets not just cargo-cult what other project have done without considering the options | 05:50 |
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| KanagarajM | because, it will isolate the db to one component. i failed to see the upgrade earlier. | 05:50 |
| asalkeld | KanagarajM, great work btw: but lets just make sure on the way forward | 05:51 |
| asalkeld | kind of important thing to think about | 05:51 |
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| KanagarajM | stevebaker, asalkeld: so i will go with 503 in case of all engines are down and will add rpc api for the same. Thanks for your suggestions . | 05:52 |
| cmyster | FYI http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7231#section-6.6.4 unable to handle the request due to a temporary overload or scheduled maintenance, | 05:52 |
| asalkeld | ok sounds good KanagarajM | 05:53 |
| KanagarajM | cmyster: thanks for right status code pointed out here. | 05:53 |
| stevebaker | KanagarajM: do the running services really need to persist to the db? or can heat-api do a cast call to ask every running engine to reply? | 05:54 |
| cmyster | np KanagarajM. 500 is almost never the right answer ;) | 05:55 |
| KanagarajM | stevebaker: in case heat-api is down, admin might not be able to get all the engine status, so all services including nova,cinder,etc supports 'xxx-manage' command which directly uses db api | 05:55 |
| stevebaker | ok, so that is for the heat-manage case. and heat-api just uses the same mechanism | 05:56 |
| KanagarajM | stevebaker: similllarly, as part of this patch, i added 'heat-manage service list' which will talk to db directly. this is required for admin for troubleshooting. | 05:56 |
| KanagarajM | stevebaker: yes, heat-api also used the same mechanism | 05:57 |
| stevebaker | ok | 05:57 |
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| KanagarajM | cmyster: ok. you are right :-) | 05:57 |
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| asalkeld | bbl, playing some tennis | 06:08 |
| cmyster | GLHF | 06:08 |
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| skraynev | Good morning all | 07:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Improve address description by example https://review.openstack.org/148245 | 07:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - Event https://review.openstack.org/142769 | 07:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - WatchRule https://review.openstack.org/142770 | 07:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - Resource https://review.openstack.org/141788 | 07:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - UserCreds https://review.openstack.org/141801 | 07:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - RawTemplate https://review.openstack.org/141046 | 07:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: First placeholder for versioned objects https://review.openstack.org/140393 | 07:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: First objects - stack and raw template https://review.openstack.org/146841 | 07:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/heat: Versioned objects placeholder - ResourceData https://review.openstack.org/141052 | 07:58 |
| inc0 | good morning:) | 07:58 |
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| shardy | morning all | 08:55 |
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| asalkeld | hi shardy | 09:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H305 and H307 style checks https://review.openstack.org/144756 | 09:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Enable H904 style checking rule https://review.openstack.org/144758 | 09:16 |
| asalkeld | pavlo you are supposed to be sick | 09:17 |
| asalkeld | what you doing working | 09:17 |
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| inc0 | sick means only 2 patches per hour | 09:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Move autoscaling update policy to functional https://review.openstack.org/148473 | 09:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Fix update on failed stack https://review.openstack.org/147463 | 10:17 |
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| Qlawy | Hi | 10:53 |
| Qlawy | anyone tried to use redelegated token to create stack? | 10:53 |
| Qlawy | 2015-01-20 11:40:22.175 3427 ERROR root [req-af34d3d4-7924-46b9-84ee-4916bcacd033 ] Unexpected error occurred serving API: Remote error: Remote error: Forbidden Remaining redelegation depth of %(redelegation | 10:53 |
| Qlawy | _depth)d out of allowed range of [0..%(max_count)d] (Disable debug mode to suppress these details.) (HTTP 403) | 10:53 |
| asalkeld | Qlawy, at the moment can't to create the stack, but you can to update the stack | 10:59 |
| asalkeld | shardy, is the redelegation blueprint in keystone? | 11:00 |
| asalkeld | for some reason i thought it was | 11:00 |
| shardy | asalkeld: I think that's what Qlawy is using? | 11:00 |
| shardy | Yeah, there was a patch, I've been meaning to try it | 11:01 |
| asalkeld | ok, we probably haven't tested that | 11:01 |
| * shardy looks | 11:01 | |
| asalkeld | Qlawy, we are looking to get that working | 11:01 |
| asalkeld | but haven't had time to test/fix any issues (assuming the keystone bp is implemented) | 11:01 |
| shardy | asalkeld: If the BP has been implemented correctly, it shouldn't require any changes to heat | 11:02 |
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| asalkeld | but might require a keystone config option? | 11:02 |
| shardy | I wrote the spec, but unfortunately haven't had enough time to follow the patch implementing it closely (someone else kindly picked it up) | 11:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat-specs: Add Mistral resources spec https://review.openstack.org/143989 | 11:03 |
| asalkeld | redelegation_depth? | 11:03 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126897/ | 11:03 |
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| asalkeld | ooo, nice | 11:03 |
| shardy | 'allow_redelegation', default=False, | 11:03 |
| shardy | It's disabled by default | 11:04 |
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| asalkeld | yip, that's going to hurt | 11:04 |
| shardy | I queried that in an earlier review, but looks like it merged like that anyway :( | 11:04 |
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| shardy | Qlawy: have you set that to True in your keystone conf? | 11:04 |
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| mattt | sorry if this is obvious, but how do i remove plugin resources from being used? for example, if i don't run ceilometer in my env, how can i remove those resources? | 11:20 |
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| asalkeld | mattt you can use the environment to do that | 11:22 |
| asalkeld | i'll get a link | 11:22 |
| mattt | asalkeld: cool that's what i thought, but my file has a mapping of old -> new and i wasn't sure how to disable something | 11:23 |
| asalkeld | mattt, map to an empty string | 11:23 |
| mattt | asalkeld: ah! | 11:23 |
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| asalkeld | ok, i am off to bed | 11:24 |
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| skraynev | asalkeld: bb | 11:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Remove TaskRunner from SwiftSignal https://review.openstack.org/147826 | 11:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Remove TaskRunner from WaitCondition https://review.openstack.org/147825 | 11:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: Remove TaskRunner from most Neutron resources https://review.openstack.org/147874 | 11:56 |
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| Qlawy | shardy: yes I think I did it | 12:46 |
| Qlawy | allow_redelegation=True | 12:46 |
| Qlawy | #max_redelegation_count=3 | 12:46 |
| Qlawy | in [trust] | 12:46 |
| Qlawy | shardy: sorry for late reply but .. calls and lunch ;) | 12:48 |
| Qlawy | shardy: what I see is: "redelegation_count": 0, in created trust | 12:49 |
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| Qlawy | DEBUG keystone.openstack.common.service [-] trust.enabled = True log_opt_values /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_config/cfg.py:2083 | 12:53 |
| Qlawy | DEBUG keystone.openstack.common.service [-] trust.max_redelegation_count = 3 log_opt_values /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/oslo_config/cfg.py:2083 | 12:53 |
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| Qlawy | afair in docs (https://github.com/openstack/keystone-specs/blob/master/api/v3/identity-api-v3-os-trust-ext.rst) there is | 12:56 |
| Qlawy | Specifies the maximum remaining depth of the redelegated trust chain. Each subsequent trust has this field decremented by 1 automatically. | 12:56 |
| Qlawy | If allow_redelegation is set to false then redelegation_count will be set to 0 in the trust on the server side. | 12:56 |
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| Qlawy | perhaps its PEBKAC again... | 13:02 |
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| Qlawy | no, I even set in body: "allow_redelegaion": true, and still have "redelegation_count": 0, "remaining_uses": null, and "allow_redelegaion": true, in response | 13:14 |
| Qlawy | When try to redelegate it tells me: Remaining redelegation depth of %(redelegation_depth)d out of allowed range of [0..%(max_count)d] (Disable debug mode to suppress these details.)" | 13:14 |
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| Qlawy | it WAS pebkac :/ | 13:38 |
| Qlawy | damn it | 13:38 |
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| Qlawy | talking to rubber duck helps ;) | 13:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/148631 | 16:48 |
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| IgorYozhikov | Hi, what am i doing wrong - oslo-config-generator --namespace heat.common.config --namespace heat.common.wsgi --namespace oslo.db --namespace oslo.messaging --namespace keystonemiddleware.auth_token | 17:18 |
| IgorYozhikov | produces Trace | 17:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | on Juno code version | 17:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | 2014.2 | 17:19 |
| IgorYozhikov | http://paste.openstack.org/show/159258/ | 17:20 |
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| htrmeira | Hi guys, I am having a heant-engine problema. I keep having this 'Nested stack UPDATE failed: State invalid for UPDATE'. | 17:31 |
| htrmeira | It seems to be a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1353727). | 17:31 |
| htrmeira | Bu reported in 2014-08-06. Does any one know the status of it? | 17:31 |
| htrmeira | Or if there is some workaround? | 17:32 |
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| zaneb | harlowja: random cloud-init question... what do you think is holding up https://code.launchpad.net/~harlowja/cloud-init/py2-3/+merge/225240 | 19:05 |
| zaneb | ? | 19:05 |
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| harlowja | zaneb welllllll | 19:05 |
| harlowja | wellll | 19:05 |
| harlowja | https://etherpad.openstack.org/cloud-init-next (probably this) | 19:05 |
| harlowja | sorta i think a cloud-init v2.0 is gonna be worked on soon | 19:05 |
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| harlowja | otherwise likely not much otherwise | 19:05 |
| zaneb | ah | 19:05 |
| harlowja | i can poke some folks if u guys want that | 19:06 |
| zaneb | harlowja: apparently that's the last thing preventing Fedora to switch its Python from 2 to 3 | 19:06 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:06 |
| harlowja | sounds like the ubuntu situation to :-P | 19:06 |
| harlowja | i think they had a similar statement, lol | 19:07 |
| zaneb | heh, yeah that's not surprising :D | 19:07 |
| zaneb | after 6 months with no reviews I think you're entitled to poke someone ;) | 19:07 |
| harlowja | or just merge it right? | 19:08 |
| harlowja | lol | 19:08 |
| harlowja | *i'm core there, lol | 19:08 |
| harlowja | u wanna review it? | 19:08 |
| harlowja | u know u want to | 19:08 |
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| zaneb | yeah, I knew you were core, not sure how reviews work over there | 19:08 |
| zaneb | I'm happy to review if that would help :) | 19:08 |
| harlowja | sureee | 19:08 |
| harlowja | scott i think is busy trying to figure out cloud-init v2.0 | 19:08 |
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| harlowja | and baby | 19:09 |
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| harlowja | *human baby | 19:09 |
| harlowja | not v2.0 baby | 19:09 |
| zaneb | lol | 19:09 |
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| harlowja | irc just doesn't translate these jokes sometime, lol | 19:09 |
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| harlowja | but let me know if u find anything obviously wrong, i don't think many peopel looked it over (its also sorta big) | 19:10 |
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| zaneb | cool, I will take a look and maybe send some others over that way too. thanks! | 19:11 |
| harlowja | sweet | 19:11 |
| harlowja | np | 19:11 |
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| stevebaker | morning | 19:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add a "tags" parameter to stack-create https://review.openstack.org/143908 | 19:42 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit restarted to address likely memory leak leading to server slowness. Sorry if you were caught in the restart | 19:52 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add "tags" column to stack table https://review.openstack.org/143734 | 19:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add a "tags" parameter to stack-create https://review.openstack.org/143908 | 19:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed openstack/heat: Add ability to hide stacks based on tag https://review.openstack.org/144665 | 20:23 |
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| harlowja | zaneb if u interested jump on #cloud-init | 20:26 |
| harlowja | just saw the following | 20:26 |
| harlowja | [12:14:14] <smoser> ok... i think we have to have a cloud-init 0.7 -> python3 day. | 20:26 |
| harlowja | [12:14:24] <smoser> who is in ... maybe do that friday ? or monday ? | 20:26 |
| harlowja | lol | 20:26 |
| harlowja | how releavent :-P | 20:26 |
| zaneb | heh :) | 20:26 |
| zaneb | harlowja: probably someone else poked him too | 20:27 |
| harlowja | :) | 20:27 |
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| zaneb | harlowja: actually he probably got an email when I posted a comment on that review | 20:29 |
| harlowja | ya, i did, that might of been it ;) | 20:29 |
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| Drago1 | Does anyone know the specific settings needed to get the keystoneclient to skip endpoint discovery? | 21:56 |
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