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| asalkeld | morning | 00:10 |
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| randallburt | asalkeld: evening | 00:27 |
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| asalkeld | randallburt: have a moment to knock some test cleanup patches in? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142265/ | 00:31 |
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| randallburt | asalkeld: might do, 1 sec, helping with homework atm | 00:31 |
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| asalkeld | randallburt: actually there is only one there | 00:31 |
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| randallburt | k. will check in a sec | 00:32 |
| asalkeld | the next one has a pep error:( | 00:32 |
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| asalkeld | mmm, distutils.errors.DistutilsError: Download error for http://pypi.region-b.geo-1.openstack.org/packages/source/p/pbr | 00:33 |
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| randallburt | asalkeld: I'll skip that second one and look at the rest. might be superfluous, but gives you an excuse to self-approve after you sort it ;) | 00:40 |
| asalkeld | :-O | 00:41 |
| asalkeld | there is a painful amount of test rework that needs to happen for decouple-nested (and i think convergence) | 00:41 |
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| randallburt | asalkeld: dinner time for me. Will check back in a bit | 00:44 |
| asalkeld | thanks randallburt , enjoy | 00:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add 'shared' property for OS::Neutron::Firewall https://review.openstack.org/144249 | 01:08 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Correct protocol allowed values for firewall rule https://review.openstack.org/144264 | 01:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add 'shared' property for OS::Neutron::MeteringLabel https://review.openstack.org/144276 | 01:08 |
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| asalkeld | tiantian: a question about "shared" | 01:15 |
| asalkeld | how useful is that? | 01:15 |
| asalkeld | given that the tenant owns the stack | 01:16 |
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| asalkeld | do we really want other tenants sharing resources within a stack? | 01:16 |
| asalkeld | what happens when you delete the stack with a shared firewall | 01:16 |
| asalkeld | (and people are using it) | 01:17 |
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| randallburt | asalkeld: ok, trolled through that patch set. kicked off some rechecks. Will look again in the am. | 01:30 |
| asalkeld | ta | 01:30 |
| randallburt | np | 01:30 |
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| asalkeld | jamielennox: is keyring support to be added in each client? or is that something that could be in a common lib? | 01:38 |
| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/shell.py#L87-L212 | 01:38 |
| asalkeld | novaclient has this | 01:38 |
| asalkeld | seems like a nice feature | 01:38 |
| asalkeld | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-heatclient/+bug/1408519 | 01:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1408519 in python-heatclient "support keyring like novaclient does" [Wishlist,New] | 01:39 |
| jamielennox | asalkeld: ideally we'd provide a common way to do it, because it changes in every place | 01:39 |
| asalkeld | (someone asked on ask.oo) | 01:39 |
| jamielennox | the OSC guys are looking at something similar as well - primarily at the moment i just don't know a good way to generalize it and to serialize all the different types of plugins that could be provided | 01:40 |
| asalkeld | doesn't keyring hide the underlying implemetations? | 01:41 |
| asalkeld | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/keyring | 01:42 |
| asalkeld | seems to | 01:42 |
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| jamielennox | asalkeld: yes, it abstracts like kde, gnome and kernel keyring | 02:27 |
| jamielennox | it's just a matter of getting a unique identifier for all the inputted information and reloading the auth_ref | 02:27 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/145663 | 02:28 |
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| tiantian | asalkeld: hi, about the 'shared' firewall, the default policy is admin only, sometimes admin wants to create a shared firewall and all tenants can use it, and about the deletion, if the resouce is using, neutron can't delete the ones which are using | 02:46 |
| asalkeld | tiantian: ok: seems only marginally useful | 02:48 |
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| tiantian | asalkeld: I think some of the scenes just we didn't meet:) and heat supports it will be flexible and the default value is false | 02:56 |
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| asalkeld | tiantian: approved | 03:11 |
| tiantian | asalkeld: thanks :) | 03:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron network constraint https://review.openstack.org/135823 | 03:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron port constraint https://review.openstack.org/135835 | 03:20 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron subnet constraint https://review.openstack.org/135875 | 03:21 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply neutron router constraint https://review.openstack.org/135880 | 03:22 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Implement 'InstanceId' for LaunchConfiguration https://review.openstack.org/133401 | 03:22 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Implement 'InstanceId' for autoscaling group https://review.openstack.org/133905 | 03:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-templates: Write docker operations log to deploy_stdout/stderr https://review.openstack.org/136144 | 03:23 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Reorganize volume code https://review.openstack.org/139925 | 03:24 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Reorganize volume code https://review.openstack.org/139925 | 03:24 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Split AWS/OS volume tests https://review.openstack.org/143634 | 03:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Replace httpretty with requests-mock https://review.openstack.org/145149 | 03:40 |
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| erkules | wow disconnected right after the question :) | 04:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove duplicate autoscaling adjustment tests https://review.openstack.org/142265 | 04:47 |
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| asalkeld | what do you know ^ | 04:52 |
| asalkeld | finally one in | 04:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Prevent occasional test failures due to duplicate stack names https://review.openstack.org/145226 | 04:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Make the attribute tests not need a nested stack https://review.openstack.org/144924 | 06:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Separate the nested resources attribute tests https://review.openstack.org/144626 | 06:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Rework stack_resource *complete method unit tests https://review.openstack.org/144923 | 06:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Add some crud tests to nested stacks https://review.openstack.org/144624 | 06:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Add missing template resource member list test https://review.openstack.org/144623 | 06:16 |
| asalkeld | reordered these to hopefully get them in faster | 06:17 |
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| asalkeld | taking a break, bbl | 06:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add 'shared' property for OS::Neutron::Firewall https://review.openstack.org/144249 | 07:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Enable E122, E126 and E128 style checks https://review.openstack.org/144750 | 07:58 |
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| shardy | morning all | 08:01 |
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| asalkeld | hi shardy | 08:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-templates: Correct unresolved reference 'true' and 'false' https://review.openstack.org/145424 | 08:04 |
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| ckmvishnu | Hi shardy, I am right in thinking removing backup_stack and not loading resources as part for stack should go in first. Phase 1 convergence (notification based load distribution) might not be needed? | 08:47 |
| shardy | ckmvishnu: By "loading resources as part for stack" do you mean persisting per-resource state so we can restart any action which stops due to a killed engine? | 08:49 |
| ckmvishnu | yeah. | 08:51 |
| shardy | That, to me at least, seems the most immediately valuable enhancement if it's possible to land it without all the other pieces | 08:51 |
| ckmvishnu | shardy: i'll take it up with zaneb | 08:54 |
| ckmvishnu | thanks | 08:54 |
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| shardy | ckmvishnu: Good plan - the load distribution piece seems long-term useful, but if we manage to land decouple-nested, I'm not sure in practice how urgent it is | 08:55 |
| shardy | particularly given that TripleO is moving away from the one-giant-stack model | 08:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/145663 | 09:13 |
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| unmeshg | tiantan: please revisit https://review.openstack.org/143425 when you find time, I've added comment | 10:27 |
| unmeshg | tiantian: please revisit https://review.openstack.org/143425 when you find time, I've added comment | 10:29 |
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| inc0 | o/ | 10:33 |
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| inc0 | quick question - https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/stack.py#L532 - I assume this is update_and_save method in models...isn't it a bit wrong? to call database models methods outside db module? | 10:36 |
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| ananta | inc0: yeah | 10:41 |
| ananta | ideally they should have been passed to DB API, IMHO | 10:41 |
| inc0 | ideally there should be object abstraction layer;) which I'm working on right now | 10:42 |
| inc0 | I'll try to find other examples of this behaviour so we can fix that. | 10:42 |
| ananta | can u elaborate on object abs layer? | 10:42 |
| inc0 | implementation of nova-like versioned objects | 10:43 |
| ananta | ok | 10:43 |
| ananta | why do we need versioned objects in Heat? | 10:44 |
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| inc0 | rolling upgrades | 10:46 |
| inc0 | or no-downtime upgrades | 10:46 |
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| ananta | inc0: ok, got it, thanks! | 10:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Enable H101 style check https://review.openstack.org/144751 | 10:54 |
| asalkeld | from approval to merging is really slow | 11:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | sajuptpm proposed openstack/heat: Remove useless create router code from create VPC https://review.openstack.org/145749 | 11:23 |
| therve | asalkeld, 2h or something? | 11:23 |
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| therve | If you don't count the rechecks :/ | 11:24 |
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| asalkeld | yeah recheck mania | 11:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add missing template resource member list test https://review.openstack.org/144623 | 11:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Add image_id property to node group template https://review.openstack.org/139989 | 12:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Renaming image property to default_image_id https://review.openstack.org/140305 | 12:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Remove deprecated property of router_interface https://review.openstack.org/139990 | 12:06 |
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| Qiming | asalkeld, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132190/6/doc/source/template_guide/composition.rst | 12:11 |
| asalkeld | yar | 12:12 |
| Qiming | line 159 says 'get_attr' should work, but it doesn't | 12:12 |
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| Qiming | maybe I'm doing something wrong? | 12:12 |
| asalkeld | get_attr is not supported, we need to remove that from the doc | 12:13 |
| Qiming | okay, I see | 12:13 |
| asalkeld | that's why we have "resource.x.attr" | 12:13 |
| asalkeld | doh, that was me :-O | 12:14 |
| asalkeld | i'll fix | 12:14 |
| Qiming | asalkeld, http://paste.openstack.org/show/155978/ | 12:15 |
| Qiming | I have tried various ways to get attributes, because I have been asked many times about this | 12:15 |
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| Qiming | I will remove the get_attr's that targeting at template resource with the OS::stack_id shortcut | 12:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Transparent stack_id only works on get_resource https://review.openstack.org/145765 | 12:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat-templates: Add example of SoftwareConfig driving os-apply-config https://review.openstack.org/145769 | 12:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Cleanup heat/openstack/common https://review.openstack.org/144738 | 12:40 |
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| tspatzier | Hey Qiming, asalkeld: is this 'OS::stack_id' special output documented somewhere outside of composition.rst? I was not aware of this magic. | 12:54 |
| openstackgerrit | sajuptpm proposed openstack/heat: Remove useless create router code from create VPC https://review.openstack.org/145749 | 12:54 |
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| Qiming | tspatzier, no | 12:54 |
| asalkeld | hi tspatzier it should be in the hot guide | 12:54 |
| asalkeld | i'll check | 12:54 |
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| asalkeld | tspatzier: should be here: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/doc/hot-guide/source/composition.rst | 12:57 |
| asalkeld | i must have forgotten | 12:57 |
| asalkeld | i post a patch for that | 12:57 |
| openstackgerrit | sajuptpm proposed openstack/heat: Remove useless create router code from create VPC https://review.openstack.org/145749 | 12:57 |
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| tspatzier | asalkeld: ok. so that other file in openstack-manuals. have to check that those reviews make it thru my mail rules :-) | 12:59 |
| Qiming | asalkeld, so the openstack-manuals project is the central place to put this kind of stuff, not just heat doc? | 12:59 |
| asalkeld | so that is the "new" place to do it yeah | 12:59 |
| tspatzier | Qiming: stevebaker ported a lot of stuff over last year | 12:59 |
| asalkeld | tho' we will see with the new project structure what happens | 12:59 |
| asalkeld | personally i like having it in tree | 13:00 |
| asalkeld | (you actually remember to do it) | 13:00 |
| Qiming | cloning | 13:00 |
| tspatzier | asalkeld: agree. I also think having the master in tree is good. and then doing a synch every once in a while | 13:00 |
| Qiming | +1 | 13:01 |
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| asalkeld | tho' the docs team make it more fancy | 13:03 |
| tspatzier | as long as they can just consume our plain rst files and then push it thru some HTML or CSS thing, fine | 13:04 |
| asalkeld | it's also rst | 13:04 |
| tspatzier | but not just our's or link to it? | 13:04 |
| asalkeld | hell no | 13:05 |
| asalkeld | :-) | 13:05 |
| asalkeld | that would be way to efficient | 13:05 |
| tspatzier | :-) | 13:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Enable E265 style check https://review.openstack.org/144752 | 13:13 |
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| asalkeld | https://review.openstack.org/145777 <- manuals | 13:15 |
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| tspatzier | asalkeld: ok, will have a look shortly | 13:16 |
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| zaneb | 9:45am, temperature is climbing towards -15C. yowza. | 14:46 |
| jdandrea | -11C here. Was -14C last night. | 14:47 |
| jdandrea | (Oof.) | 14:47 |
| zaneb | jdandrea: where are you based? | 14:47 |
| jdandrea | New York metro area. | 14:47 |
| zaneb | surprised it's that warm. I guess you're near the ocean | 14:48 |
| mattt | 9C here in UK, hope that cold front doesn't come this way :P | 14:48 |
| ryansb | It's a toasty -8C here in Buffalo | 14:49 |
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| zaneb | oh, I guess the vortex is moving south then | 14:49 |
| jdandrea | zaneb: I'm about 50 km from the ocean, mhm. | 14:49 |
| ryansb | you've got pretty nasty weather when it's warmer in Buffalo. ;) | 14:50 |
| jdandrea | ryansb: Truth. | 14:50 |
| pas-ha | -22 was here in the morning | 14:51 |
| jdandrea | -22! | 14:51 |
| pas-ha | yep | 14:51 |
| pas-ha | but getting warmer, -13 now | 14:51 |
| pas-ha | with the sun being down :) | 14:51 |
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| * pas-ha blames the sun for cold weather | 14:52 | |
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| ryansb | pas-ha: only 18 degrees away from the C and F temperatures converging. | 14:53 |
| mattt | only -8C in buffalo, but 10 feet of snow | 14:54 |
| mattt | (kidding) | 14:54 |
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| jdandrea | Heh. Convergence. *chuckle* | 14:54 |
| pas-ha | I paste this here again - http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/60000/3000/300/63349/63349.strip.zoom.gif | 14:55 |
| zaneb | rofl | 14:55 |
| ryansb | that's amazing | 14:56 |
| ryansb | mattt: http://i.imgur.com/XPYsWGE.jpg | 14:57 |
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| zaneb | ryansb: the story of your life? | 14:58 |
| mattt | ryansb: :P | 14:58 |
| * jdandrea *prints Dilbert strip for the wall* | 14:59 | |
| ryansb | zaneb: only mildly biographical. | 14:59 |
| ccrouch | if you wanted any more signs of the apocalypse its even -3C in Austin, TX. | 14:59 |
| ryansb | o.O really? | 14:59 |
| zaneb | wow, I imagine that doesn't happen often | 14:59 |
| ccrouch | a few days a year maybe | 15:00 |
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| jdandrea | Is there a blueprint out there covering multi-site support in Heat? (Or something similar?) | 15:18 |
| * jdandrea seems to recall there may be, but isn't finding it. | 15:18 | |
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| cmyster | ummm | 15:19 |
| cmyster | familiar | 15:19 |
| zaneb | jdandrea: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/multi-region-support ? | 15:20 |
| cmyster | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Blueprints/Multi_Region_Support_for_Heat | 15:20 |
| jdandrea | Boom. | 15:21 |
| cmyster | morning zaneb | 15:21 |
| zaneb | cmyster: o/ | 15:21 |
| jdandrea | Hmm. Is it stalled, i wonder? *reads ...* | 15:22 |
| zaneb | jdandrea: Status: Complete | 15:23 |
| zaneb | cmyster: I have some work heading your way if I ever get out of meetings ;) | 15:23 |
| jdandrea | zaneb: Good! I saw this and was wondering. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98533/ | 15:24 |
| cmyster | zaneb: don't we have a thing today ? | 15:24 |
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| zaneb | cmyster: yes! that's at the end of a very long list in my calendar | 15:25 |
| cmyster | end ? | 15:25 |
| zaneb | jdandrea: so that is multi-cloud, rather than multi-region | 15:25 |
| cmyster | ummm | 15:25 |
| cmyster | its in 35 minutes no ? | 15:25 |
| cmyster | you me and Arthur | 15:26 |
| cmyster | maybe shardy | 15:26 |
| zaneb | cmyster: yes, but it'll be my 4th meeting of the day | 15:26 |
| cmyster | right | 15:26 |
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| cmyster | zaneb: I am completly out, kid is sick and I left my token at work, can you please send the meeting details to my gmail ? | 15:27 |
| zaneb | cmyster: sure, can you pm me your gmail address? | 15:28 |
| cmyster | hmmm was sure I had it in my ./whois | 15:28 |
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| zaneb | cmyster: sent, thanks | 15:29 |
| cmyster | cheers | 15:29 |
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| jdandrea | zaneb: Ah, ok. It's on the whiteboard for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/multi-region-support | 15:30 |
| jdandrea | I have a resource that needs to know how to obtain tokens for multiple sites, not just the local one. (The resource can be given tokens for a local/remote site at CREATE time, but those could be expired by DELETE time.) | 15:32 |
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| jdandrea | I could brute force it, but I'd rather see if there's something coming down the pike first vs. reinvent the wheel. | 15:32 |
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| jdandrea | Correction: It is *given* tokens as part of the properties. I don't like that either, actually. If only there was a resource that lets me get a token for any arbitrary site, based on my existing username/password credentials (I suppose they'd have to match). | 15:33 |
| pchalupa | zaneb hi, I am wondering about heat-engine. How does it manages Threads and blocking? What happens if there'll be 1000 resources with blocking IO operations for example? | 15:34 |
| zaneb | pchalupa: eventlet | 15:34 |
| pchalupa | which is coruotine basically right ? | 15:34 |
| * pchalupa is not a python guy | 15:35 | |
| pchalupa | zaneb so on IO blocking operation it frees the thread for other coroutine to run until the IO is ready, correct? | 15:35 |
| therve | That's correct | 15:36 |
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| pchalupa | sounds good, thanks | 15:38 |
| zaneb | pchalupa: correct, yet. eventlet is a co-operative multithreading implementation within Python (i.e. there's still only one OS thread) | 15:38 |
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| pchalupa | therve zaneb another question: can you imagine heat-engine as a general orchestration engine? what are the obstacles? How does it deal with failures? (is the process paused for investigation? can it be resumed after the problem is fixed?) | 15:40 |
| zaneb | pchalupa: what does that mean? | 15:40 |
| zaneb | "general orchestration engine"? | 15:41 |
| pchalupa | zaneb using heat-engine to orchestrate e.g. other services through REST API calls | 15:41 |
| zaneb | non-OpenStack services? We have a plugin API for resource types, and some people are using it for that | 15:42 |
| zaneb | authentication is usually the obstacle, since Heat is designed around Keystone auth | 15:43 |
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| pchalupa | zaneb ok thanks | 15:44 |
| pchalupa | zaneb about the failure: let's have A > B > C custom resources with REST API calls, '>' means order (B depends on A). What happens when B fails? Can you go to system of B fix the problem and resume the process ? | 15:46 |
| zaneb | pchalupa: when a resource fails the stack goes into FAILED state and stops or optionally rolls back | 15:46 |
| zaneb | with recent versions of Heat you can do an update with the same template to get it to try again | 15:47 |
| zaneb | where 'recent versions' means Juno (2014.2) and on | 15:47 |
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| pchalupa | ' to get it to try again' which will continue just form the failed point ? it can check that A was already succesful? | 15:48 |
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| pchalupa | zaneb i do not know much about heat-engine :/ should I be looking at resources more like a desired state declarations than dependent actions ? | 15:50 |
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| zaneb | pchalupa: yes | 15:50 |
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| pas-ha | pchalupa, yes, heat templates are a declarative model of your infrastructure state | 15:51 |
| zaneb | if you want a workflow system instead (i.e. define actions rather than states), you should look at Mistral | 15:51 |
| pchalupa | zaneb great, thanks a lot for all the answers! It definitely helped me to understand heat better. | 15:52 |
| zaneb | np | 15:52 |
| pas-ha | what heat-engine essentially does it parses the template to build a graph of dependencies between resources, and then walks along that graph in the right direction creating/deleting/etc those resources | 15:54 |
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| ckmvishnu | zaneb: Hi | 15:59 |
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| zaneb | ckmvishnu: o/ meeting just about to start, sorry | 16:01 |
| ckmvishnu | no problem. will drop a mail | 16:02 |
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| pas-ha | looks like our current master branch fails py27 check o_O, smth with timestamps being not equal for mox-ed calls, investigating.. | 16:05 |
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| ryansb | is it that unicode biz showing up again? | 16:08 |
| pas-ha | no, the timestamps are different | 16:09 |
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| pas-ha | and mox complains | 16:09 |
| pas-ha | for metadata_set() call, from the first look mostly in autoscaling tests, probably something is not mocked out right | 16:10 |
| pas-ha | funny thing is it fails on testr run only, direct subunit test run is ok.. | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Lukjanov proposed openstack/heat: Add ssl support for sahara client https://review.openstack.org/145516 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Lukjanov proposed openstack/heat: Register sahara client specific config opts https://review.openstack.org/145823 | 16:19 |
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| pas-ha | all faiures are in heat.tests.test_autoscaling | 16:26 |
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| pas-ha | and again, running these tests *not* via testr passes, tox+testr fails | 16:28 |
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| shardy | pas-ha: have you tried deleting the tox venv and having it build a fresh one? | 16:28 |
| pas-ha | shardy, I see it in the gate | 16:29 |
| pas-ha | so fresh tox is not a reason | 16:29 |
| pas-ha | somehow mocking oslo.utils.timeutils.utcnow() is not working | 16:29 |
| shardy | pas-ha: oslo.utils just released a new version, and presumably broke us | 16:30 |
| pas-ha | oops, they did it again (c) | 16:31 |
| shardy | yay for oslo graduation all-the-things :( | 16:31 |
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| shardy | I think I preferred it when we could choose when they broke us via manual syncs | 16:31 |
| jdandrea | :-o | 16:33 |
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| shardy | Having said that, it's quite possible we're doing our mocking wrong again.. | 16:37 |
| shardy | pas-ha: want to raise a bug with details and we can look at the fix needed? | 16:37 |
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| therve | Yeah the bug is with the new oslo.utils release, tested locally | 16:40 |
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| therve | There is a set_time_override function, it'd be cool to use that | 16:43 |
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| pas-ha | filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1408704 | 16:53 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1408704 in heat "mocking of oslo.utils.timeutils.utcnow() is not working" [Undecided,New] | 16:53 |
| shardy | pas-ha: thanks | 16:53 |
| shardy | therve: are you fixing it, or should I take a look? | 16:54 |
| shardy | reproduced locally now too | 16:54 |
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| therve | Let me have a quick look | 16:55 |
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| therve | Good lord the test output is really not friendly | 17:07 |
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| therve | shardy, Got it I think | 17:08 |
| shardy | therve: awesome, thanks :) | 17:08 |
| cmyster_ | zaneb: did you want to talk about something else with me? you wanted to give me some work ;) | 17:09 |
| cmyster_ | hmmm | 17:09 |
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| cmyster | better | 17:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed openstack/heat: Remove mocking of timeutils.utcnow https://review.openstack.org/145841 | 17:10 |
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| therve | Heat cores, ^^ blocking the gate apparently | 17:10 |
| zaneb | therve: approved, thanks | 17:12 |
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| pas-ha | tested locally, fix works | 17:14 |
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| ryansb | also tested | 17:15 |
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| zaneb | what is this testing you guys talk about? | 17:20 |
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| pas-ha | therve's patch. I was working on this too in the same manner but somehow got other tests failing. so I just double-checked ^) | 17:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | unmesh-gurjar proposed openstack/heat: Return available info for uncreated resource https://review.openstack.org/143425 | 17:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/145882 | 18:43 |
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| maishsk | Good evening all. | 18:56 |
| maishsk | A question if I may. | 18:56 |
| maishsk | Currently scaling groups are based on the fact that alerts/alarms are set with Ceilometer | 18:57 |
| maishsk | and when a threshold is crossed - a new instance is spawned / terminated. | 18:57 |
| maishsk | Does Heat have the option to do the same with another monitoring engine - besides Ceilometer? | 18:58 |
| maishsk | A 3rd party monitoring solution ? | 18:58 |
| larsks | maishsk: Sure. Instead of configuring a ceilometer alarm with the url from your scalingpolicy, just give that URL to your monitoring tool of choice. | 19:07 |
| larsks | However, if you wanted to configure that via a Heat template you would need to write a resource plugin of some sort. | 19:08 |
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| maishsk | larsks: is there such an example ? | 19:25 |
| larsks | Not that I'm aware of. | 19:26 |
| larsks | But that doesn't mean one doesn't exist...I haven't worked extensively with the autoscaling stuff; someone else may be able to provide a better answer. | 19:26 |
| larsks | Or do you mean an example of a resource plugin? For that, there's the docker plugin in the "contrib" directory of the heat source, I guess. | 19:27 |
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| maishsk | larsks: I mean something that can do this instead of Ceilometer | 19:29 |
| larsks | Yeah, I have no suggestions there. | 19:29 |
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| borodin | I need to find or build a tool (with a UI) which allows me to manage multiple users creating AWS instances from templates (cloudformation maybe). I'd like the users to be able to edit the templates, and the click to build/deploy. Does heat do this? | 20:11 |
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| jdandrea | Reality-check Q: get_attribute (in a plugin) is only ever called at CREATE/UPDATE time, plus it is effectively in "template" scope, not "resource" scope, correct? (That is, a resource plugin shouldn't be asking another resource for an attribute. That happens as part of template processing. (Disabuse me as needed!) | 21:16 |
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| zaneb | jdandrea: the resource definition (and also stack outputs) contains an object that knows how to get the attribute value of a particular resource from the stack, and will do so when it is resolved | 21:48 |
| ryansb | any dnf users around that can peek at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142512/ ? | 21:50 |
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| jdandrea | zaneb: Got it. I'm thinking about how I'd get tokens for two or more sites at any point in the stack lifecycle. For instance, I can pass multiple tokens in as part of a resource plugin's properties. Those tokens can expire though (especially by deletion time). Also, passing credentials in to a template seems a bit off. | 21:52 |
| zaneb | jdandrea: two words: Keystone federation | 21:53 |
| * morganfainberg likes those words. | 21:53 | |
| jdandrea | zaneb: What is this ... "Keystone federation?" *goes and looks that up* | 21:54 |
| * morganfainberg goes back to being a lurker. | 21:55 | |
| jdandrea | Arrgh. I've been informed that won't fly in this particular model. | 21:55 |
| jdandrea | The Keystones will be separate. | 21:55 |
| jdandrea | Perhaps there's misunderstanding on this end about what Federation would offer. Hmm. | 21:56 |
| zaneb | jdandrea: so you are dealing with two separate cloud providers who don'y co-operate with each other? | 21:57 |
| jdandrea | It seems that way, yes. | 21:57 |
| jdandrea | zaneb: I'm not *completely convinced that's the case, so ostensibly, yes. | 21:57 |
| sdake | that sounds like it wont work at all :( | 21:57 |
| jdandrea | sdake: Yeah. :/ | 21:57 |
| zaneb | we had some ideas about implementing multi-cloud on top of multi-region | 21:58 |
| zaneb | but they were all *horrible* | 21:58 |
| zaneb | and then keystone federation was invented | 21:58 |
| jdandrea | Ok, so I've been told that, for all intents and purposes, yes, they are separate providers. | 21:58 |
| zaneb | well, that's the case that keystone federation is meant to address | 21:59 |
| zaneb | if the clouds share one keystone it's multi-region | 22:00 |
| zaneb | if they're separate keystones then it's actually two different clouds | 22:00 |
| zaneb | but they can still federate | 22:00 |
| zaneb | at a technical level | 22:00 |
| zaneb | at a business level... that's your problem ;) | 22:01 |
| sdake | zaneb :) | 22:01 |
| jdandrea | zaneb: Nail. Hit. On head. ;) | 22:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove mocking of timeutils.utcnow https://review.openstack.org/145841 | 22:59 |
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