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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack-dev/heat-cfnclient: Fix the standard port that is inferred from url scheme https://review.openstack.org/138260 | 02:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-templates: Fix env parameters for os_node.yaml https://review.openstack.org/138909 | 02:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/heat-templates: heat-config-puppet: support hiera https://review.openstack.org/138532 | 02:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Use the right log marker functions https://review.openstack.org/138353 | 02:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Support better access to nested attributes https://review.openstack.org/136230 | 02:22 |
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| elynn | morning :) | 02:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add cinder snapshot custom constraint https://review.openstack.org/136279 | 02:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add serial console url attribute for nova server https://review.openstack.org/138941 | 03:04 |
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| tiantian | asalkeld: hi, hope to approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136263/8 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136279/, conflict while merging, thx:) | 03:42 |
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| cmyster | morning | 04:00 |
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| asalkeld | tiantian, re-approved | 04:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Use physical_resource_name to generate the resource ID https://review.openstack.org/138819 | 05:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/138958 | 06:01 |
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| skraynev | good morning all | 06:35 |
| elynn | Hi skraynev :) | 06:36 |
| skraynev | elynn: hi | 06:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Correct group's updates from a failed state https://review.openstack.org/135524 | 07:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed openstack/heat: Use kwargs for ResourcePropertyConflict exception https://review.openstack.org/137641 | 07:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Extract group functions into a utility module. https://review.openstack.org/137356 | 07:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Show the creation time for stack snapshots https://review.openstack.org/138285 | 07:58 |
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| shardy | morning all | 08:25 |
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| tiantian | shardy: hi, would you please to re-approve the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136285/ merge conflict， thx | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Split wait condition into separate files https://review.openstack.org/138993 | 09:05 |
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| inc0 | gmorning | 09:07 |
| inc0 | asalkeld_, ping | 09:10 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Split wait condition into separate files https://review.openstack.org/138993 | 09:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Change ResourceInterface resource's resource_id https://review.openstack.org/138336 | 09:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Add serial console url attribute for nova server https://review.openstack.org/138941 | 10:11 |
| asalkeld_ | hi inc0_ | 10:11 |
| inc0_ | good morning asalkeld_ | 10:12 |
| asalkeld_ | what can i do for you? | 10:12 |
| inc0_ | as promised I'm here to bug you;) I'm trying to build few actions required to get us closer to seamless upgrades | 10:12 |
| inc0_ | oslo.versionedobjects are due at kilo-2 theoretically | 10:13 |
| inc0_ | which gives us very small margin of error if we want to have heat upgradeable by kilo release | 10:13 |
| asalkeld_ | ok | 10:13 |
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| pas-ha | morning all | 10:13 |
| inc0_ | hi pas-ha | 10:13 |
| inc0_ | versioning inside heat? do we have any bps or specs for that? | 10:14 |
| asalkeld_ | inc0_, we could at least start with coping it in heat | 10:14 |
| asalkeld_ | inc0_, yeah i started one | 10:14 |
| asalkeld_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132157/ | 10:14 |
| pas-ha | inc0_, yesterday I took a look at nova versioned objects, and it seemed easy enough (although that was around midnight for me, so I probably missed smth :) ) | 10:15 |
| inc0_ | yeah, heat meetings are late in europe | 10:15 |
| inc0_ | also, is there anything besides versioned objects that stands between us and upgrades? | 10:16 |
| inc0_ | bugs or issues we know of? | 10:16 |
| asalkeld_ | inc0_, so we also need to think about template and plugin versioning | 10:17 |
| asalkeld_ | and long running tasks | 10:17 |
| asalkeld_ | but convergence is suposed to help with that ^ | 10:17 |
| inc0_ | yeah, long running tasks will be problem, you won't put down engine in mid-update | 10:17 |
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| asalkeld_ | basically as a part of HA, we need to be able to cope with a power off | 10:18 |
| asalkeld_ | on the heat-engine | 10:18 |
| asalkeld_ | and recover | 10:18 |
| asalkeld_ | - we are a while off that | 10:18 |
| inc0_ | no argue with that | 10:18 |
| asalkeld_ | but i'd like us to start thinking about it | 10:18 |
| inc0_ | but that not something we can solve right away | 10:19 |
| asalkeld_ | and not make that impossible | 10:19 |
| asalkeld_ | totally | 10:19 |
| inc0_ | well convergence + observer should make that possible...that and breakign down resource handle_* to stateless | 10:19 |
| asalkeld_ | inc0_, is the versioned object bp something you would like to help with? | 10:20 |
| inc0_ | plugin and template versioning? do we keep backward compatibility? | 10:20 |
| asalkeld_ | templates are currently versioned | 10:20 |
| inc0_ | yup, I've noticed | 10:20 |
| asalkeld_ | we don't currently version plugins tho' | 10:21 |
| asalkeld_ | and that makes it tricky changing them | 10:21 |
| inc0_ | about me helping - at least a little, possibly more - depends on what we agree on convergence | 10:21 |
| asalkeld_ | what we need as a part of our functional test is an old plugin | 10:21 |
| asalkeld_ | ok | 10:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Convert x.iteritems() to six.iteritems(x) https://review.openstack.org/138782 | 10:22 |
| inc0_ | I just need to have enough tasks to keep me in heat at 100%;) | 10:22 |
| asalkeld_ | I am currently helping shardy with a k1 bp, then i'll move onto versioned objects | 10:22 |
| asalkeld_ | but i am super happy to offload to you if you wish | 10:23 |
| inc0_ | ok, I'll find out if they stared that in oslo | 10:23 |
| asalkeld_ | dan smith is the guy to chat to | 10:23 |
| inc0_ | I'll at least push that up a little bit and start some work on it | 10:23 |
| asalkeld_ | cool, let me know what you do so we don't duplicate anything | 10:24 |
| inc0_ | allright, I'll read into your spec, find out what they did in oslo | 10:24 |
| asalkeld_ | also feel free to co-author the spec | 10:24 |
| inc0_ | and talk to you when I'll find out anything | 10:24 |
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| asalkeld_ | nice | 10:24 |
| inc0_ | if I'll have something to add;) | 10:24 |
| asalkeld_ | sure | 10:25 |
| inc0_ | ok, thanks for a heads up | 10:25 |
| shardy | asalkeld_: Hey, how's that going? Feel a bit guilty about lumbering you with that test nightmare.. | 10:25 |
| asalkeld_ | shardy, i am breaking instance group into unit tests | 10:25 |
| shardy | I may have time to look at it again tomorrow if needed | 10:25 |
| shardy | asalkeld_: Great! | 10:25 |
| asalkeld_ | and the ones i can't i'll move to functional tests | 10:26 |
| asalkeld_ | there is still the autoscaling tests | 10:26 |
| shardy | Yeah, you already fixed a lot of those, but it's the rolling update stuff I think which will be interesting | 10:26 |
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| asalkeld_ | i think that's a functional test really | 10:27 |
| shardy | That would be better as a functional test anyway I guess | 10:27 |
| shardy | +1 | 10:27 |
| asalkeld_ | maybe just with a random string | 10:27 |
| shardy | I'm sooo happy we have functional tests in-tree now :) | 10:27 |
| asalkeld_ | totally | 10:27 |
| asalkeld_ | also standalone heat functional tests work now too | 10:28 |
| asalkeld_ | so i can use a mirantis lab | 10:28 |
| asalkeld_ | and a local devstack with just heat | 10:28 |
| asalkeld_ | simple | 10:28 |
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| shardy | Awesome, I might use it to run tests on a tripleo deployed overcloud :) | 10:28 |
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| shardy | shadower: ^^ what we discussed about overcloud testing via heat | 10:29 |
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| cmyster | shardy: in my front its getting a lot of attention now. people want to have environments installed with heat asap... | 10:31 |
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| cmyster | I need to get into triple-o soon-ish | 10:32 |
| shadower | shardy: thanks | 10:32 |
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| asalkeld_ | g | 10:46 |
| asalkeld_ | g'night | 10:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/heat: WIP Modify resource_id of AWS LoadBalancer https://review.openstack.org/139018 | 11:31 |
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| inc0_ | shardy, did you reproduced https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1384750 this one? | 11:42 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1384750 in heat "Deleting with an in-progress stack update can fail" [High,Triaged] | 11:42 |
| inc0_ | reproduce* | 11:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Qiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Check if encoded user credential may get truncated https://review.openstack.org/137771 | 11:43 |
| inc0_ | gosh my grammar is horrible | 11:44 |
| shardy | inc0_: No, I've not come up with a simple reproducer unfortunately | 11:45 |
| inc0_ | I've tried to play with it yesterday, but no success | 11:45 |
| shardy | I think it's a timing thing, where if you delete at just the wrong time you end up with a stale reference to the old resource | 11:46 |
| inc0_ | meh, then we'll need a crystal ball to reproduce it | 11:47 |
| shardy | We could take that attitude with all non-deterministic bugs I guess :\ | 11:47 |
| inc0_ | with most of software development really;) | 11:48 |
| inc0_ | was it repeatable when you used this scenerio in tripleo? | 11:49 |
| inc0_ | or just one-time thing? | 11:49 |
| shardy | What was puzzling was that it was trying to delete a resource not visible via resource-list | 11:49 |
| shardy | I was kinda hoping zaneb or someone would have some ideas on why/how that could happen | 11:49 |
| shardy | inc0_: It was a one-time thing, but I raised the bug because the outcome is so bad (permanently undeletable stack) | 11:50 |
| shardy | I dug into the code a bit and it's not obvious how we can end up in that state | 11:51 |
| inc0_ | I'll try to take a look, but I'm not very hopeful given my current knowledge of heat | 11:51 |
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| shardy | inc0_: Ok, but given my failure to reproduce there may be more productive bugs to focus on :) | 11:52 |
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| inc0_ | anything specific you have in mind? | 11:53 |
| inc0_ | on your mind* | 11:53 |
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| shardy | inc0_: Nothing specific, but there are a few unassigned Triaged bugs you can pick up if you like | 11:56 |
| shardy | inc0_: I'd just hate to see you burn a lot of time on that bug given that it could be hard to reproduce | 11:56 |
| * shardy considers marking it incomplete | 11:57 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: StackResource convert check path to RPC https://review.openstack.org/116340 | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: StackResource convert update_with_template to RPC https://review.openstack.org/116341 | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: StackResource convert handle_suspend to RPC https://review.openstack.org/116338 | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: StackResource convert handle_resume to RPC https://review.openstack.org/116339 | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: StackResource convert create operations to use RPC https://review.openstack.org/116336 | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: StackResource convert delete_nested to RPC https://review.openstack.org/116337 | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: engine service add stack_user_project_id to create_stack interface https://review.openstack.org/118136 | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Add stack_user_project_id to _create_stack RPC interface https://review.openstack.org/118137 | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Add some unit tests for the instance group https://review.openstack.org/139029 | 11:57 |
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| ckmvishnu | inc0: hi | 13:13 |
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| inc0 | hello again:) | 13:17 |
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| ckmvishnu | i have a disconnected yet to implement idea. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/execution-stream-and-aggregator-based-convergence let me know what you think. | 13:17 |
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| inc0 | ckmvishnu, http://asciiflow.com/ good tool for make ascii graphs | 13:19 |
| inc0 | also, leaves here means that "there is nothing that depends on me" or "there is nothing I depend on"? | 13:20 |
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| ckmvishnu | there is nothing i depend on | 13:21 |
| ckmvishnu | the ones you get first when iterating over deps.graph | 13:21 |
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| shardy | ckmvishnu: AFAIK "send message to all resources to stop" is wrong for concurrent updates, as the main use-case AIUI is concurrent updates to an autoscaling group, where you need to response to several updates with a short cooldown period | 13:22 |
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| ckmvishnu | By stop, i meant to stop initiating another notifications which will trigger another level. | 13:23 |
| inc0 | ckmvishnu, few things: 1. if you'll end up with very complicated graph, there could be literally hundrets of "streams" (which I understand will mean every possible path through graph) | 13:23 |
| inc0 | streams can be mutually inclusive in parts | 13:23 |
| inc0 | it will be very very costly operation | 13:24 |
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| ckmvishnu | shardy: look at the aggregator code. i intent to talk to eash resource through that. let me know what you think | 13:24 |
| ckmvishnu | each* | 13:24 |
| ckmvishnu | inc0: yeah Aggregator should help us from parallely provisioning same resource | 13:25 |
| inc0 | ckmvishnu, but even then you'll need to calculate *every* possible stream | 13:25 |
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| inc0 | and number of these will grow exponentially | 13:26 |
| ckmvishnu | why, we have to any ways initiate all leaves using dependencues? | 13:26 |
| inc0 | so if I'd add 2 more resources that depends on A | 13:26 |
| inc0 | to your graph | 13:26 |
| inc0 | total number of streams will double | 13:27 |
| inc0 | and when we'll have graphs which consists thousands of resources | 13:27 |
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| ckmvishnu | yea. they are new leaves and so new parallel workers | 13:27 |
| inc0 | things may getugly | 13:27 |
| inc0 | ckmvishnu, I'm talking about calculation | 13:28 |
| inc0 | of streams | 13:28 |
| inc0 | we haven't even started execution | 13:28 |
| ckmvishnu | could happen. just pondering if something if something of this sort can be used | 13:28 |
| ckmvishnu | if dependency class in little inteligent. we could reduce complexity | 13:29 |
| inc0 | what you've done here is essentially depth-first graph search | 13:29 |
| inc0 | that would be useful if we'd like to find whole stream to completely create resource A | 13:29 |
| inc0 | but I don't think we have this use case here | 13:29 |
| inc0 | also, you might want to read a bit about algorithm called A* | 13:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/python-heatclient: Remove remaining deprecated oslo-incubator modules https://review.openstack.org/131829 | 13:30 |
| inc0 | ckmvishnu, my question is that...why do we even care to create a priori list of streams? | 13:31 |
| ckmvishnu | I was hoping to send leniar deps data to each leaf resource | 13:31 |
| ckmvishnu | to reduce db lookup | 13:32 |
| inc0 | but at horrible cost of generating these | 13:32 |
| inc0 | thats my point | 13:32 |
| ckmvishnu | i get it. do you think this ops will be very costly. Dependencies already has this info. we are presenting it in a different format :) | 13:33 |
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| ckmvishnu | atleast that what I thought | 13:33 |
| inc0 | they have info of its dependants and so on | 13:33 |
| inc0 | but generating full paths will be costly | 13:34 |
| ckmvishnu | can we discuss this after our meet on current implementation is complete. | 13:34 |
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| ckmvishnu | i think i need to explain | 13:35 |
| inc0 | maybe | 13:35 |
| inc0 | I may misunderstand your intentions here | 13:35 |
| ckmvishnu | :) | 13:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add serial console url attribute for nova server https://review.openstack.org/138941 | 13:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Convert x.iteritems() to six.iteritems(x) https://review.openstack.org/138782 | 13:36 |
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| ckmvishnu | zaneb: you there | 13:52 |
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| zaneb | ckmvishnu: o/ | 13:54 |
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| ckmvishnu | can you ping your skype id in a private chat | 13:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: ResourceGroup allow update of resource_def https://review.openstack.org/138331 | 14:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Reduce V1.1 test fakes complexity to below 20 https://review.openstack.org/137934 | 14:03 |
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| inc0 | soo...do we start teleco?;) | 14:08 |
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| inc0 | ckmvishnu ? | 14:11 |
| ckmvishnu | hi | 14:12 |
| ckmvishnu | network issue i guess | 14:12 |
| ckmvishnu | :( | 14:12 |
| ananta | inc0 | 14:12 |
| ananta | give me you skype id | 14:12 |
| inc0 | good afternoon ananta | 14:12 |
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| zaneb | ckmvishnu: the execution-stream-and-aggregator-based-convergence is more or less exactly what my PoC does, except I do it in the database instead of in-memory in the engine | 14:13 |
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| inc0 | well I don't really like aggregating these "streams" as it will grow exponentially by number of roots, but I guess that can be solved | 14:17 |
| ckmvishnu | zaneb: :) | 14:17 |
| inc0 | maybe let's talk here if we have problems with skype | 14:17 |
| zaneb | inc0: that's... just not true | 14:17 |
| inc0 | if we create paths through graph, then it is, if we just list resources that are are dependant (not only immediatly dependant) then not really | 14:18 |
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| inc0 | guys? | 14:23 |
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| rakesh_hs | inc0: I have sent u a request | 14:23 |
| rakesh_hs | accept it, i will add to call | 14:24 |
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| inc0 | ahh I haven't got anything | 14:25 |
| inc0 | rakesh_hs, can you please send me invitation again? | 14:25 |
| rakesh_hs | I sent again now | 14:25 |
| rakesh_hs | Please check and let me know | 14:25 |
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| rakesh_hs | r u add me | 14:26 |
| rakesh_hs | my id is rakeshhs1 | 14:26 |
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| zaneb | ananta: https://github.com/zaneb/heat-convergence-prototype/blob/786f367210ca0acf9eb22bea78fd9d51941b0e40/scenarios/update_replace_invert_deps.py | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed openstack/heat-templates: heat-config-puppet: support hiera https://review.openstack.org/138532 | 17:17 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: so if we wanted to give people an upgrade path when a new plugin supersedes an old one, we could have an optional method for resource plugins which takes other resource objects/references as the argument. | 17:32 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: then have some way to tag a new thing as an upgrade of the old one(s) | 17:33 |
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| shardy | SpamapS: possibly we could rename external_resource to existing_resource and allow referencing between resources on update | 17:33 |
| shardy | Seems like it could get really error prone though.. | 17:34 |
| SpamapS | so when you submit an update that removes 5 servers, but has an ASG with "replaces: [ server0, server1, server2, server3, server4 ]" .. the engine will try to feed those resources to ASG | 17:34 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: agreed. Which is why I suggested we just use external reference and do these one-time migrations outside of Heat. | 17:34 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: but wanted to finish the thought as maybe somebody can boil it down to something that isn't totally crackers. :) | 17:35 |
| shardy | SpamapS: Sure, it's good to discuss it | 17:35 |
| shardy | If external_resource will satisfy the requirement, I'm happy that we use it | 17:35 |
| SpamapS | I think it will allow users to solve these problems for themselves. | 17:36 |
| shardy | my original understanding was that resources referenced via external_resource were permanently external | 17:36 |
| shardy | but I see the "Removing the external_reference" element to the spec now | 17:36 |
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| SpamapS | If we find that users are often using it for something that could be in the DSL, then the DSL can evolve, but I like the idea of a blanket "get out of my way" tool first. | 17:36 |
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| SpamapS | shardy: yeah I specifically wanted that part for the task of being able to get under the hood without breaking Heat. | 17:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed openstack/heat: Expose resource attributes in the API https://review.openstack.org/135111 | 17:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed openstack/heat: Expose resource attributes in the engine https://review.openstack.org/135110 | 17:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-heatclient: Convert importutils to oslo.utils https://review.openstack.org/131828 | 18:04 |
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| sdake | larsks can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138611/ | 18:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add support for pass through references https://review.openstack.org/132190 | 18:44 |
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| sdake | asalkeld around? | 19:10 |
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| sdake | ping asalkeld | 20:19 |
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| adam_g | stevebaker, shardy any objections here? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139179/ | 20:49 |
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| stevebaker | adam_g: +2! | 21:06 |
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| adam_g | stevebaker, thanks | 21:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Show the creation time for stack snapshots https://review.openstack.org/138285 | 21:25 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/139205 | 21:28 |
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| stevebaker | uh, now heat_integrationtests/scenario/test_server_cfn_init.py is failing always | 21:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Revert "Extract group functions into a utility module." https://review.openstack.org/139222 | 22:34 |
| stevebaker | I don't think ^ caused test_server_cfn_init to fail, just checking | 22:35 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/139205 | 22:36 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, can you have a look at the external_ref spec sometime: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134848/4/specs/kilo/external_resource.rst | 22:39 |
| asalkeld | seems to be getting a little controversial | 22:39 |
| asalkeld | therve, does not seem to like it | 22:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | yunhong-jiang proposed openstack/heat: Return valid refid for eip if not created yet https://review.openstack.org/139268 | 23:35 |
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