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| wenlock | stevebaker thanks, yep starting to see that. | 00:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Fish proposed openstack/heat: Use environment file in template-validate https://review.openstack.org/134080 | 01:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Expose other deployment outputs in SoftwareDeployments https://review.openstack.org/134088 | 01:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: WIP test for SoftwareDeployments https://review.openstack.org/134089 | 01:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Add support for pass through references https://review.openstack.org/132190 | 02:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed openstack/heat: Add "parameter_defaults" to the environment https://review.openstack.org/131337 | 02:12 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, I'll leave this one up to you: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105496/ | 03:00 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: OK, I'll get to it. | 03:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-specs: Software config notify deployment progress https://review.openstack.org/130114 | 03:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Implement 'InstanceId' for LaunchConfiguration https://review.openstack.org/133401 | 04:15 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Implement 'InstanceId' for autoscaling group https://review.openstack.org/133905 | 04:15 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, hi | 04:16 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, that instanceid thing looks a bit odd on aws docs | 04:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Mark stack_domain_amdin_password as a secret option https://review.openstack.org/134112 | 04:49 |
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| asalkeld | looks like we need a yet another liaison https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 05:18 |
| asalkeld | API | 05:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Add validation constraints on config inputs https://review.openstack.org/105496 | 05:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/133615 | 06:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: ERROR_WAIT_TIME should be a config option https://review.openstack.org/130696 | 06:17 |
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| tiantian | asalkeld: hi | 07:17 |
| tiantian | asalkeld: yes, it seems a bit odd:( | 07:18 |
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| asalkeld | ok | 07:21 |
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| tiantian | asalkeld: And I'm not sure whether there is something wrong of docs | 07:26 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, yeah - it might be worth experimenting with it directly | 07:27 |
| asalkeld | see what the behaviour is | 07:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Implement custom constraint for nova server https://review.openstack.org/133913 | 07:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Do static template validation for nested stacks https://review.openstack.org/132625 | 07:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Use RPC directly for software deployment operations https://review.openstack.org/133605 | 08:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat: Remove die_if_not_set check for var user_roles https://review.openstack.org/131993 | 08:04 |
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| cmyster | morning | 08:14 |
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| elynn | afternoon cmyster :) | 08:21 |
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| mc__ | is there the posibility to use parameter insertion in user_data (shell scripts) section in a HOT? | 08:27 |
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| mc__ | Found an older blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/template-string-function) was it implemented? | 08:28 |
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| mc__ | ah, and its from stevebaker :) | 08:32 |
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| elynn | mc__, do you mean this https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/hello_world.yaml#L55-L61? | 08:37 |
| cmyster | and there is a more complex script in the WrodPress examples | 08:38 |
| mc__ | oh great, thank you both! thats awesome | 08:39 |
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| shardy | morning all | 09:07 |
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| shardy | mc__: Hi, the other day you talked about updating your config to use stack domain users | 09:14 |
| shardy | mc__: I just wanted to point out that you should ensure you have this bugfix if you do that with existing stacks: | 09:14 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119996/ | 09:14 |
| shardy | ref bug #1365332 | 09:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1365332 in heat/icehouse "Heat can sometimes delete end-user's own project " [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1365332 | 09:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Implement custom constraint for nova server https://review.openstack.org/133913 | 09:17 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Remove KeypairConstraint and FlavorConstraint to nova.py https://review.openstack.org/134141 | 09:17 |
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| cmyster | morning shardy | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Do static template validation for nested stacks https://review.openstack.org/132625 | 09:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Mark stack_domain_amdin_password as a secret option https://review.openstack.org/134112 | 09:35 |
| elynn | Hi shardy asalkeld , Do you have time to review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134112/ | 09:35 |
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| maishsk | Hi all | 09:36 |
| maishsk | I was wondering how you handle upgrades/updates of stacks. | 09:37 |
| elynn | heat stack-update ? | 09:38 |
| maishsk | elynn: well - yes and no..... | 09:39 |
| maishsk | say I have a heat template which deploys a web server (for simplicity) | 09:40 |
| maishsk | apache v2 | 09:40 |
| maishsk | they are behind an LB and a pool - that has been provisioned as part of the template | 09:40 |
| maishsk | I want to update apache in the instances to to v2.1 | 09:41 |
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| maishsk | so essentially - I will make the change to the heat template - the question is what happens next.... ? | 09:41 |
| maishsk | Does it stagger the update? | 09:42 |
| maishsk | Can I update only part of them? | 09:42 |
| maishsk | Green/Red testing etc... | 09:42 |
| maishsk | I am not sure that heat stack-update will handle this... | 09:42 |
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| maishsk | elynn: but I could be wrong... | 09:43 |
| elynn | maishsk, this template may help you https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-templates/example-ssh-copy-id.yaml | 09:43 |
| elynn | by using software config resource. | 09:43 |
| elynn | Update apache is just update OS::Heat::SoftwareConfig resource by using shell or other scripts. | 09:44 |
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| maishsk | elynn: so changing the OS::Heat::SoftwareConfig resource in the template - and then heat stack-update will do it? | 09:46 |
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| elynn | yes, but you need to put some agent in your vm. | 09:47 |
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| elynn | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/elements/README.rst | 09:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed openstack/heat: Apply nova server constraints for resources https://review.openstack.org/134151 | 09:48 |
| maishsk | elynn: I am just trying to understand the flow. | 09:49 |
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| maishsk | change the OS::Heat::SoftwareConfig -> which changes the software versions in the template | 09:50 |
| maishsk | -> heat stack-update -> will update the already deployed stack syntax -> update the resources in the deployed stack | 09:50 |
| maishsk | correct? | 09:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Correct error message when query domain id https://review.openstack.org/133895 | 09:54 |
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| elynn | maishsk, yes | 09:55 |
| maishsk | elynn: Can A/B testing also be implemented in Heat? | 09:55 |
| maishsk | elynn: how does it work with rollbacks? Failures? | 09:56 |
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| mc__ | shardy: oh yes, thanks. very thoughtful of you! | 10:07 |
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| elynn | maishsk, I'm afraid I also don't know the details, you can ask steve baker for help. | 10:09 |
| shardy | maishsk: By default a stack update stops on failure, optionally you can enable rollback, which is basically the same as doing another update with the original pre-update template | 10:12 |
| maishsk | shardy: Thanks. Is there such a thing as partial update? i.e. my stack has 5 web servers - I only want update #1 and #5 ? | 10:13 |
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| shardy | maishsk: Then you create a template which only updates two resources | 10:18 |
| shardy | If they're in a ResourceGroup or something, then no, you update everything | 10:19 |
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| maishsk | can they be staggered? | 10:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Catch keystone unauthorized error when creating stack https://review.openstack.org/133896 | 10:22 |
| elynn | Hi tianhua | 10:25 |
| elynn | tiantian, are you around? | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhu Zhu proposed openstack/heat: Fix incorrect ca argument for heat ceilometer client https://review.openstack.org/134158 | 10:42 |
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| shardy | maishsk: AutoScalingGroup supports batched replacement, or you can manually stagger via a series of stack-update's | 11:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in contrib https://review.openstack.org/134170 | 12:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/api https://review.openstack.org/134171 | 12:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/cloudinit https://review.openstack.org/134172 | 12:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/common https://review.openstack.org/134173 | 12:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/db https://review.openstack.org/134174 | 12:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/engine/resources https://review.openstack.org/134175 | 12:07 |
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| asalkeld_ | g'night all | 12:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/engine/resources https://review.openstack.org/134187 | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/engine https://review.openstack.org/134188 | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/tests https://review.openstack.org/134189 | 12:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Qiming Teng proposed openstack/heat: Adds multi-region support for stack resource https://review.openstack.org/53313 | 12:55 |
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| inc0_ | zaneb, is your current (central-graph) algorithm supposed to work? or its just a draft? | 13:41 |
| zaneb | it's supposed to mostly work | 13:41 |
| zaneb | did you find a bug? | 13:41 |
| inc0_ | not sure yet, I'm just writin tests and I'm still not sure if its bug in code or tests | 13:42 |
| zaneb | from trawling the log messages I believe it's correct so far as it goes, but that's obviously a fairly unreliable method of checking ;) | 13:43 |
| inc0_ | yeah, I'm digging into storage;) | 13:44 |
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| inc0_ | anyway, I'll try to finish test cases till tomorrow end of day, and if you could take a look afterwards if asserts looks good, that'd be great | 13:44 |
| zaneb | cool, many thanks for working on this :) | 13:44 |
| inc0_ | no problem, this will make everyones job easyier | 13:45 |
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| zaneb | ++ | 13:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed openstack/heat: Mark stack_domain_amdin_password as a secret option https://review.openstack.org/134112 | 13:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Fish proposed openstack/heat: Use environment file in template-validate https://review.openstack.org/134080 | 13:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/common https://review.openstack.org/134215 | 13:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/db https://review.openstack.org/134220 | 14:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/engine https://review.openstack.org/134225 | 14:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed openstack/heat-specs: Detailed Resource Show https://review.openstack.org/121979 | 14:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/db https://review.openstack.org/134174 | 14:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/common https://review.openstack.org/134173 | 14:50 |
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| inc0_ | zaneb, about mail, I was referring to process which will raise a timeout and take workload from failed engine | 14:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Fish proposed openstack/heat: Use environment file in template-validate https://review.openstack.org/134080 | 14:54 |
| inc0_ | so celery in this case | 14:55 |
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| inc0_ | although I might have used incorrect word for that;)_ | 14:56 |
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| cmyster | heya inc0_ | 14:58 |
| inc0_ | afternoon cmyster | 14:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed openstack/heat: Clarify ResourceGroup properties support status https://review.openstack.org/134241 | 15:00 |
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| cmyster | shardy: there ? | 15:06 |
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| shardy | cmyster: hi | 15:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix [H302] errors in heat/engine https://review.openstack.org/134188 | 15:08 |
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| cmyster | shardy: regarding ^ patch, mot sure that hard coded versions is the best way... why not import from a version file and so something like version=latest version=current version=future etc | 15:09 |
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| cmyster | shardy: nm I thought about it. there is something else that can be done here, but atm this is perfect | 15:18 |
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| zaneb | inc0_: right, yeah the observer is not that | 15:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Add 'required' flag to CW Alarm properties schema https://review.openstack.org/132867 | 15:21 |
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| inc0_ | zaneb, by the way, did Visnu and his team posted any code for graph resolution yet? | 15:22 |
| zaneb | idk | 15:22 |
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| inc0_ | kk | 15:23 |
| zaneb | if they did, nobody has told me about it | 15:23 |
| zaneb | although I am way behind on Gerrit notifications | 15:23 |
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| inc0_ | yeah, summit does that to people | 15:23 |
| zaneb | not seeing it in my dashboard | 15:24 |
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| inc0_ | sure, I just wanted to make sure that I didn't miss anything so far;) | 15:24 |
| inc0_ | kk, back to tests, few more to go | 15:25 |
| zaneb | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:convergence-poc,n,z | 15:25 |
| zaneb | nothing new since summit ^ | 15:25 |
| inc0_ | I'll try to ping them tomorrow - EU is closer to Indian TZ | 15:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix wrong Default val in AWS_CloudWatch_Alarm.yaml https://review.openstack.org/132867 | 15:30 |
| cdwSymfony | Okay I need a flashlight… I am creating an orchestration template to use in Rackspace, and I cannot figure out how to specify what application software to install and how to install it. I would prefer a puppet solution, but am not adverse to using chef… I just need a flashlight to guide me. | 15:31 |
| cdwSymfony | I am lost in the example templates… | 15:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Fix wrong Default val in AWS_CloudWatch_Alarm.yaml https://review.openstack.org/134251 | 15:33 |
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| shadower | shardy: ping | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Peter Razumovsky proposed openstack/heat: Improve Property error msg for properties validate https://review.openstack.org/127150 | 15:56 |
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| shardy | shadower: Hi | 16:00 |
| shardy | sorry, was on a call | 16:00 |
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| shadower | shadower: sorry, I'm on a call now | 16:04 |
| shadower | shardy: ^ | 16:04 |
| shardy | shadower: np | 16:05 |
| shadower | shardy: just wanted to ask if there's a way to remove a specific node (like the elision on ResourceGRoup) for AutoscalingGroup | 16:05 |
| shadower | looking into moving tripleo templates to AS because of the rolling upgrade feature | 16:05 |
| shardy | shadower: Not yet, I'm aware it probably needs to be added though | 16:05 |
| shadower | okay, cool | 16:05 |
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| shardy | shadower: Yeah, I've been thinking about that too | 16:06 |
| shardy | see my comment in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134037/ | 16:06 |
| shadower | will have a look | 16:06 |
| shardy | currently we don't offer any way at all to update ResourceGroup member definition, but after that, we'll allow some in-place updates | 16:06 |
| shadower | shardy: oh and one more thing: so if I attach a ScalingPolicy to the ASGroup and then ping the URL it gives me, I can scale up & down without having to run stack-update, right? | 16:07 |
| shardy | shadower: Yes | 16:07 |
| shadower | cool | 16:07 |
| shardy | shadower: you can also use heat resource-signal | 16:07 |
| shadower | oh, I didn't know about that one | 16:07 |
| shardy | If you just want batched updates though, you don't even need a ScalingPolicy | 16:08 |
| shadower | yeah sure | 16:08 |
| shadower | but I guess we want both resizing and updates | 16:08 |
| shardy | shadower: Yep, it's just a question of what metrics you use for the scaling decisions | 16:09 |
| shardy | there are some credentials complexities with in-instance credentials, which I'm aiming to address via https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132198/ | 16:09 |
| shardy | in-instance metrics I mean | 16:09 |
| shadower | shardy: right. I was thinking kind of out-of-band stuff. I.e. we roll in new hardware and ask Heat to add 10 new servers to the group | 16:10 |
| shardy | shadower: Yup, that should work fine, via a signal or a stack update | 16:11 |
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| shadower | sweet | 16:12 |
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| jasond` | is there a reason that str_replace parameters are limited to strings or numbers? | 19:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed openstack/heat: Remove validation of nested stack for preview https://review.openstack.org/134343 | 19:42 |
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| zaneb | jasond`: what does that leave? booleans maybe | 19:49 |
| jasond` | lists, maps | 19:50 |
| ryansb | jasond`: what would you want to do with a list/map in that context? | 19:53 |
| jasond` | if it was a list of IPs from a resource group, you could write it out to a file via a user_data script | 19:54 |
| jasond` | or you could create a string with the IPs that would be passed to a personality file | 19:55 |
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| zaneb | so the question is how do you convert a list to a string | 19:58 |
| zaneb | (it's a trick question) | 19:58 |
| jasond` | i figured we'd just let python do it | 19:59 |
| ryansb | Uh, would that be a useful format though? | 19:59 |
| zaneb | no, and that's why it's limited to strings or numbers :) | 20:00 |
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| ryansb | to make str_replace make sense with maps+strings we'd have to add in the ability to specify all sorts of different output options | 20:00 |
| zaneb | that's what the Fn::Join function is for | 20:00 |
| zaneb | I think we have one in HOT too? | 20:01 |
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| jasond` | oh really | 20:01 |
| ryansb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102718/ | 20:02 |
| jasond` | that will probably work | 20:02 |
| ryansb | jasond`: ^ | 20:02 |
| jasond` | thanks | 20:02 |
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| stevebaker | morning | 20:17 |
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| ari_ | Is there a way to store metadata associated with a stack in heat that later I can retrieve when the stack is created/completed? | 20:42 |
| ari_ | I have for example a order no in the catalog that I want to associate with the stack that consists of a bunch of custom resources' | 20:43 |
| ari_ | Is there anyway I can acheieve this | 20:43 |
| ari_ | so that later if I make client.stacks.get() I can get it? or is there anyother way to do this? | 20:44 |
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| larsks | ari_: sure. A stack can have "outputs", which are values that you can retrieve through the API. You could have a "order_number" output, and have the value be the value of an "order_number" parameter provided when creating the stack (using the get_param function). | 20:47 |
| larsks | You may be able to query the parameters directly via the api. Not sure off the top of my head. | 20:48 |
| zaneb | larsks: that's quite brilliant | 20:49 |
| ari_ | so technically I would add an extra parameter and do nothing with it in the stack itself but just to have it set as output of the stack? | 20:49 |
| larsks | ari_: Sure. | 20:50 |
| larsks | zaneb: Really? ...I mean, yes! Yes it was! :) | 20:50 |
| ari_ | I see get(stack.id) call returns the parameters too...so I guess I don't have to set it as output through get_param | 20:51 |
| zaneb | larsks: well we were talking last week about adding a metadata API, but it had never occurred to me just now that we already sort-of have one :) | 20:51 |
| zaneb | *until just now | 20:51 |
| ari_ | Man this is going to be messy since we have to add to every single template a new parameter now | 20:52 |
| zaneb | sed is your friend | 20:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/heat-templates: Add in-instance docker software config hook https://review.openstack.org/128182 | 20:54 |
| stevebaker | this hook is experimental ^, I approved it so we can start playing with it | 20:55 |
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| ari_ | Does openstack community have any stress utility? | 21:56 |
| ari_ | to check the stress performance on heat engine? | 21:57 |
| ari_ | How so you guys do stress testing? | 21:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed openstack/heat: Integration test for software-config tools https://review.openstack.org/113711 | 22:03 |
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| SpamapS | ari_: I don't know of one. | 23:37 |
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