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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/128038 | 00:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Removing openshift-enterprise and moving the templates to a private github repo that the OpenShift Enterprise team will use to maintain the templates and package an rpm for RHEL from. https://review.openstack.org/129999 | 00:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Make HARestarter do a proper lookup of the RefID https://review.openstack.org/129981 | 02:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Failed res no need UpdateReplace which has nested_stack https://review.openstack.org/130107 | 03:32 |
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| ramishra | asalkeld: Hi! | 03:44 |
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| asalkeld | hi ramishra | 03:47 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: I would like propose a session on 'heat and containers' to discuss some work I've been doing on the following | 03:47 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: should I put that in etherpad? | 03:48 |
| asalkeld | sure, that's what's it's for | 03:48 |
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| ramishra | asalkeld: ok..the only issue is, I may not be able to attend the meeting where you plan to discuss the topics.. However, stevebaker is aware of the work, you guys can decide whether to include it or not | 03:49 |
| asalkeld | remember the sessions are for discussing the implementation of something | 03:50 |
| asalkeld | ramishra, as long as stevebaker is happy to do it | 03:50 |
| asalkeld | and core team think it is important enough | 03:50 |
| asalkeld | there are lots of potential topics | 03:51 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: We've a few options and approaches to dicsuss https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat-templates/+bug/1380886, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/k8s-container-pod-config-resource | 03:51 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1380886 in heat-templates "software config hook for docker" [Undecided,In progress] | 03:51 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: stevebaker can probably decide if it is important enough:) | 03:52 |
| ramishra | asalkeld: let me put that and see what the core decides | 03:53 |
| asalkeld | sure, sounds good | 03:53 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, maybe zaqar for that ^ | 04:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add some imports to hacking import_exceptions https://review.openstack.org/129846 | 04:29 |
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| asalkeld | bbl: school run | 04:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Kuberntes pod resources for container management https://review.openstack.org/130117 | 04:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Kubernetes pod resources for container management https://review.openstack.org/130117 | 04:43 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: Hi! | 04:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Rabi Mishra proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Kubernetes pod resources for container management https://review.openstack.org/130117 | 04:52 |
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| asalkeld | ramishra_, re: that spec | 05:17 |
| ramishra_ | asalkeld: yep | 05:17 |
| asalkeld | what resources are involved? any new ones? | 05:17 |
| ramishra_ | asalkeld: two new resources.. I've mentioned in the spec.. | 05:18 |
| asalkeld | you should probably add an example template snippet | 05:18 |
| asalkeld | it really helps see what it will look like | 05:18 |
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| asalkeld | ramishra_, it looks very interesting tho' - power on! | 05:19 |
| ramishra_ | asalkeld: I can do that. However, wanted to validate if the direction is correct.. I myself is not 100% convinced.. wanted to know views from others | 05:20 |
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| ramishra_ | asalkeld: probably there is a better way to implement it.. or we stay with the sofware-config docker hook for the time being.. | 05:22 |
| asalkeld | this is somewhat like a scaling group? | 05:23 |
| asalkeld | ramishra_, can you move your summit topic above the "not enough information" line? | 05:25 |
| ramishra_ | asalkeld: sure | 05:26 |
| asalkeld | thanks | 05:27 |
| skraynev | good morning | 05:27 |
| asalkeld | hi skraynev | 05:27 |
| skraynev | hi asalkeld, ramishra_ :) | 05:27 |
| ramishra_ | hi skraynev.. morning | 05:28 |
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| skraynev | ramishra_: yeap, good morning without rain and with clear blue sky (exception in our autumn) :) | 05:29 |
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| asalkeld | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-useablity-improvements | 05:49 |
| asalkeld | ideas welcome ^ | 05:49 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, you about? | 05:58 |
| asalkeld | i think we will need to combine the 2 useablity sessions | 05:58 |
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| asalkeld | so trying to extract some concrete ideas | 05:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/130124 | 06:01 |
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| Qiming | hi, skraynev | 07:21 |
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| skraynev | good day Qiming | 07:22 |
| Qiming | skraynev, how did you find the unused imports? | 07:22 |
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| Qiming | I tried flake8 and pep8, neither had complained before I committed the code | 07:22 |
| skraynev | Qiming: yeah, pep8 and flake8 catchs such things | 07:23 |
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| Qiming | skraynev, it is strange that they are not complaining this time, though I am pretty sure they were checking that before | 07:24 |
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| skraynev | however if it used one time in template | 07:25 |
| skraynev | the problem is, that you never use LOG variable | 07:26 |
| skraynev | so if you delete it you will get unused import | 07:26 |
| Qiming | skraynev, that's interesting ... how did you find LOG was not used? | 07:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Qiming Teng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Further split ASG code. https://review.openstack.org/129620 | 07:29 |
| skraynev | open review in browser and find (ctrl F) LOG | 07:29 |
| Qiming | skraynev, got it. I have to say: good catch! | 07:30 |
| Qiming | ;) | 07:31 |
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| skraynev | np :) | 07:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Don't stop create immediately on error for stack resources https://review.openstack.org/130152 | 07:52 |
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| shardy | morning all | 08:03 |
| tiantian | shardy: hi | 08:07 |
| shardy | tiantian: hi | 08:07 |
| asalkeld | hi shardy | 08:07 |
| Qiming | morning, shardy | 08:10 |
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| pas-ha | morning all | 08:34 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: Hey, looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125251/ | 08:46 |
| shardy | I wondered why the validation moved from validate() to handle_create()? | 08:46 |
| shardy | seems like the resource_by_refid should resolve in either place? | 08:46 |
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| asalkeld | shardy, stevebaker really didn't like it in the validate | 09:07 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: uh, OK, I guess I need to read the other reviews to find out why | 09:07 |
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| shardy | I thought fail-fast-via-validate was always preferred | 09:08 |
| asalkeld | yeah, i dont' think he liked calling resource_byref in validate | 09:08 |
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| shardy | well there's no ID associated with the launchconfig, so I personally don't see the problem | 09:09 |
| shardy | but w/e ;) | 09:09 |
| asalkeld | "The resource isn't there because validate occurs before resource creation. Validate isn't a good place to do this form of validation. The only other appropriate place we have currently is handle_create." | 09:09 |
| cmyster | morning | 09:09 |
| cmyster | sort of.. | 09:09 |
| shardy | asalkeld: FWIW I disagree, we should be able to traverse the graph before creating the resources, I don't get why we have to have created everything to validate the template dependencies | 09:10 |
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| shardy | Makes template-validate pretty pointless IMHO :( | 09:11 |
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| shardy | Hey, your template isn't necessarily valid, but we think it'd kinda, sorta, OK ... ish | 09:11 |
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| asalkeld | well part of it is we need fake resource_id's and attributes | 09:12 |
| inc0 | hello everyone | 09:12 |
| asalkeld | hi inc0 | 09:12 |
| shardy | asalkeld: well the default refid is just the resource name, which should be enough for dependency validation, e.g resolving all the get_resources | 09:12 |
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| cmyster | hi inc0 | 09:13 |
| shardy | I suppose get_attr is a little harder | 09:13 |
| asalkeld | yeah, one person says x another y :-) | 09:13 |
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| asalkeld | not stressed, just fixing your bug | 09:13 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Ok, I'll remove my objection so as not to put you in review ping-pong | 09:13 |
| asalkeld | btw: what's wrong with the tempate? | 09:13 |
| shardy | asalkeld: Yeah, appreciate it, thanks | 09:13 |
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| asalkeld | using the same template as the other tests | 09:14 |
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| asalkeld | shardy, i need to get up super early for the meeting tomorrow | 09:15 |
| asalkeld | can you and zane have a look at the summit topics | 09:16 |
| asalkeld | "vote" for sessions | 09:16 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: Ok will do! :) | 09:17 |
| inc0 | guys, I was thinking...convergence might be really cool autohealing framework | 09:19 |
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| asalkeld | inc0, that's the idea | 09:22 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Halt test_cinder_volume_create_backup_restore on error https://review.openstack.org/129746 | 09:24 |
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| ananta | Hi! Good afternoon/evening | 09:39 |
| ananta | Is it a good idea to store the requestcontext that comes from api in DB? | 09:40 |
| shardy | ananta: definitely not IMO | 09:40 |
| ananta | shardy, ok. Is there a way to re-generate it? | 09:41 |
| shardy | ananta: that's the point of the user_creds table - where we store either an encrypted username/password, or (preferably) a trust_id which enables delegation between the stack owner and the heat service user | 09:42 |
| ananta | ok, I was just wondering about it because when we talk about distributing the convergence work/jobs, we need to have this context to be passed everywhere | 09:42 |
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| shardy | ananta: Yes, it'll be passed via RPC to the various places as a result of the request | 09:43 |
| shardy | There's no need to store it to the DB IMO | 09:43 |
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| ananta | shardy: that's how the it's designed...but what if process having the context object go down? | 09:44 |
| shardy | It's potentially large, and security sensitive, so storing it would be bad, IMHO | 09:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix add_dependencies for floating_ip resource https://review.openstack.org/130176 | 09:44 |
| shardy | ananta: then it goes down, and we have to re-start whatever it was doing on another worker | 09:44 |
| shardy | the request context is still transient, as e.g the token in it will expire, so passing it between processes makes sense, storing it does not | 09:45 |
| ananta | shardy: I agree! what if everything restarts because they happen to be on one host? won't we lose that context? sorry if I am asking naive questions! | 09:45 |
| shardy | For truly deferred operations (like autoscaling) we use the stored context: | 09:45 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/stack.py#L139 | 09:45 |
| shardy | I think if you have all your heat services running on one host, you can't expect to be resilient to host failure | 09:46 |
| shardy | AFAIK that's true for all openstack services | 09:47 |
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| ananta | shardy: okay! So in worst case, the requests which were being processed will be lost for-ever... but ocnvergence is about continous activity...so we need to somehow have the context object somewhere | 09:49 |
| ananta | even when all the observers/workers have restarted for some reason beyon us :) | 09:49 |
| shardy | ananta: I think your definition of convergence and mine may be a little differnent | 09:49 |
| shardy | there are provent patterns for deploying openstack services in a highly available way, we don't need to reinvent them | 09:50 |
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| shardy | what we do need is some way to scale stuff to multiple workers, and to recover if transient outages happen | 09:51 |
| tiantian | shardy: hi, about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130104/, may be like: if the configuration is ['heat_stack_owner'], we inherit the all roles, otherwise delegate the roles which configuration, is't ok? | 09:51 |
| shardy | that's not the same as loosing all processes containing the context forever | 09:51 |
| shardy | If your deployment pattern is highly available, some processes will still be running, thus they will have the context | 09:51 |
| shardy | ananta: worst case, we still have the stored_context() | 09:52 |
| shardy | (which is *not* actually, the stored context, but one reconstructed from user_creds) | 09:52 |
| shardy | my bad on the naming there :) | 09:52 |
| ananta | shardy: I agree! but the requestcontext is the single object which I feel ... which may be at some point of time available only in those workers which happen to re-start | 09:52 |
| shardy | tiantian: No, the existing behavior on Juno must be unchanged, so only if the deployer changes deployed roles to None do we use the new code path | 09:53 |
| ananta | shardy: so we re-generate in worst case. | 09:54 |
| ananta | from the user_creds | 09:54 |
| shardy | tiantian: basically, split your change, we only want the change to heat_keystoneclient, not config.py or config.sample | 09:54 |
| cmyster | ananta: and how does the original request is kept? creds is one thing, but the actions that were lost are another | 09:56 |
| ananta | cmyster: actions are there in DB, stack-wide action and the resource action | 09:57 |
| tiantian | shardy: What I said will not to change the config.py or config.sample, just change the logic in heat_keystoneclient, like this: if configuration == ['heat_stack_owner'], delegate all roles of the trustor, else delegate the roles which config | 09:57 |
| shardy | tiantian: No, we can't do that, because it will silently change the current behavior on Juno | 09:58 |
| cmyster | ananta: so you move the failure point to the DB... its a bit time consuming imo | 09:58 |
| shardy | If there are roles in the list, we must delegate just those roles | 09:58 |
| shardy | Just like in master | 09:58 |
| shardy | so there's no need to change heat_keystoneclient, just don't change the default in conf.sample | 09:59 |
| shardy | Then if folks want to select the new behavior, they have to change their config file, but nobody does an update and suddenly gets something they didn't expect | 09:59 |
| shardy | ananta: request context is actually the one thing which is available... everywhere which is handling the request, hence the name | 10:00 |
| ananta | cmyster: not really, ultimately, we have to persist enough information in DB so that any other heat engine/worker can pick up the tasks | 10:00 |
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| ananta | cmyster: and in production DBs are highly available | 10:01 |
| cmyster | personally I like using memory better then db, its speed vs resiliency | 10:03 |
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| tiantian | shardy: ok, thanks, but where to warning this, is't engough to put the warning in service.py just like in master? | 10:04 |
| ananta | shardy: yup! I agree...i think safe to assume that the request context is never ever lost in the sense that we have to re-construct it from somehwere else | 10:06 |
| ananta | shardy: Thanks! | 10:06 |
| shardy | tiantian: no | 10:07 |
| shardy | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Appropriate_Fixes | 10:08 |
| shardy | "Incompatible config file changes" | 10:08 |
| shardy | That means, IMO, you can't change the default, and you *definitely* can't silently change the meaning of an existing setting | 10:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rakesh H S proposed a change to openstack/heat: Functionality to read graph from db https://review.openstack.org/130182 | 10:12 |
| tiantian | shardy: yes, agree and I won't to change the default, I try to understand you: 1. don't change the default 2. keep the same logic as master in heat_keystoneclient | 10:14 |
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| shardy | tiantian: yes. I thought I said that in the review, sorry if it was unclear :) | 10:15 |
| tiantian | shardy: my question is that where to put the warning message, in service.py is't enough? | 10:15 |
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| tiantian | shardy: if people didn't notice this warning, errors will happen, so I'm worry about this :) | 10:17 |
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| shardy | tiantian: we don't need a warning, because the default hasn't changed - perhaps we can update the Juno release notes to mention this as a "known issue" | 10:22 |
| shardy | we could also look at proposing the config change to the various heat installers, e.g the puppet modules many folks are using | 10:23 |
| shardy | tiantian: Having said that, if you wish we could leave your warning in service.py and reword it to explain why you might want to change to the new config setting | 10:24 |
| tiantian | shardy: ok, I got it, thanks:) | 10:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move to oslo.middlware request_id module https://review.openstack.org/128268 | 10:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove oslo middleware.base module https://review.openstack.org/128269 | 10:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove oslo sslutils https://review.openstack.org/128270 | 10:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: sync oslo-incubator request_id shim https://review.openstack.org/130185 | 10:55 |
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| shardy | lsmola: Hey, looking at bug #1383709, I can't reproduce it, any additional info you can provide? | 11:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1383709 in heat "ResourceGroup count is causing increment on stack-update" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1383709 | 11:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed a change to openstack/heat: Alter models and add migration https://review.openstack.org/127535 | 11:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add ModelSMigrationSync classes https://review.openstack.org/127536 | 11:06 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Remove the deprecated heat/db/sync https://review.openstack.org/129944 | 11:08 |
| lsmola | shardy: hm | 11:09 |
| lsmola | shardy: I tried it on instack | 11:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed a change to openstack/heat: Alter models and add migration https://review.openstack.org/127535 | 11:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add ModelSMigrationSync classes https://review.openstack.org/127536 | 11:10 |
| lsmola | shardy: so I guess trying that would be easier to reproduce | 11:10 |
| lsmola | shardy: I also got some timeout when updating, haven't have time to investigate | 11:11 |
| shardy | lsmola: If you can try my minimal reproducer, that would be helpful | 11:11 |
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| lsmola | shardy: I think trying instack would be probably easiest | 11:12 |
| shardy | lsmola: Ok, so you no longer have your test environment, and you want me to setup instack? | 11:12 |
| lsmola | shardy: if it works in another template with ResourceGroups, that is weird | 11:12 |
| lsmola | shardy: if you have time for that | 11:12 |
| shardy | lsmola: :\ | 11:12 |
| lsmola | shardy: I could lend you my lab with instack installed | 11:13 |
| lsmola | shardy: and you can just try the update | 11:13 |
| lsmola | shardy: would that work? | 11:13 |
| lsmola | shardy: :-) | 11:13 |
| shardy | lsmola: sigh. Normally bug reporters are prepared to do a tiny amount of diagnosis themselves :( | 11:14 |
| lsmola | shardy: yeah, I would have to postpone it few weeks then :-( | 11:14 |
| lsmola | shardy: we need to finish all the bugs in UI first | 11:14 |
| lsmola | shardy: we moved heat stack-update to K for Instack | 11:15 |
| lsmola | shardy: so it has lower priority at this moment, but super high later :-) | 11:15 |
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| lsmola | shardy: so if you don't mind wait 1-3 weeks, I am going to dive into it then | 11:16 |
| shardy | lsmola: alright, I'm not going to argue over who's busiest, please provide more info when you have time | 11:16 |
| lsmola | shardy: ok, will do :-) | 11:16 |
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| asalkeld | gus, when you are up and about, I am trying to gather feedback into this: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-useablity-improvements | 11:48 |
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| gus | asalkeld: ack, I'll give it some thought tomorrow when I'm more awake ;) | 11:52 |
| asalkeld | o, you are there | 11:52 |
| asalkeld | :-) thought you were a irc robot | 11:52 |
| asalkeld | thanks gus this feedback is very valuable | 11:52 |
| shardy | asalkeld: I added one more | 11:53 |
| gus | Perhaps I am a robot. | 11:53 |
| * gus waves his "hand" mysteriously. | 11:53 | |
| asalkeld | har | 11:53 |
| asalkeld | thanks shardy | 11:53 |
| asalkeld | shardy, can you move it | 11:54 |
| asalkeld | you put in the middle of something else | 11:54 |
| asalkeld | ta | 11:54 |
| shardy | Sorry ;) | 11:55 |
| asalkeld | we almost need interfaces | 11:55 |
| asalkeld | this resource implements x resource type | 11:55 |
| asalkeld | :-O | 11:55 |
| asalkeld | maybe we can seperate the properties/attributes from the implementation | 11:56 |
| shardy | asalkeld: I think a special __resource_ref__ output would work and be simpler | 11:56 |
| shardy | and the introspection via outputs is resolved via (1) | 11:56 |
| shardy | So, mostly, outputs become optional | 11:57 |
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| shardy | maybe for all stacks, not just nested - folks have asked for a way to get any resource attribute without defining outputs ahead of time before | 11:57 |
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| asalkeld | wow we have our work cut out | 12:10 |
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| asalkeld | g'night all - early morning heat meeting:-( | 12:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed a change to openstack/heat: Alter models and add migration https://review.openstack.org/127535 | 12:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Oleksii Chuprykov proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add ModelSMigrationSync classes https://review.openstack.org/127536 | 12:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: sync oslo-incubator request_id shim https://review.openstack.org/130185 | 13:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move to oslo.middlware request_id module https://review.openstack.org/128268 | 13:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove oslo middleware.base module https://review.openstack.org/128269 | 13:33 |
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| pscheie | Is there a way to assign a volume label to an ephemeral disk within a heat template? | 13:39 |
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| my_openstack_use | hello | 14:17 |
| my_openstack_use | I am experiencing a problem in heat when trying to start a stack from custom template | 14:18 |
| my_openstack_use | stack creation fails | 14:18 |
| my_openstack_use | I get the following in my heat-api log: | 14:18 |
| my_openstack_use | [u'Traceback (most recent call last):\n', u' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/openstack/common/rpc/amqp.py", line 462, in _process_data\n **args)\n', u' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/openstack/common/rpc/dispatcher.py", line 172, in dispatch\n result = getattr(proxyobj, method)(ctxt, **kwargs)\n', u' File | 14:18 |
| my_openstack_use | "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/engine/service.py", line 63, in wrapped\n return func(self, ctx, *args, **kwargs)\n', u' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/engine/service.py", line 520, in create_stack\n env, **common_params)\n', u' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/engine/parser.py", line 107, in __init__\n | 14:18 |
| my_openstack_use | user_params=self.env.params)\n', u' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/engine/hot/template.py", line 142, in parameters\n user_params=user_params)\n', u' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/engine/parameters.py", line 384, in __init__\n schemata = self.tmpl.param_schemata()\n', u' File | 14:18 |
| my_openstack_use | "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/engine/hot/template.py", line 138, in param_schemata\n for name, schema in params)\n', u' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/engine/hot/template.py", line 138, in <genexpr>\n for name, schema in params)\n', u' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/engine/hot/parameters.py", line 109, in | 14:18 |
| my_openstack_use | from_dict\n label=schema_dict.get(HOTParamSchema.LABEL))\n', u' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/engine/parameters.py", line 64, in __init__\n label=label)\n', u' File "/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/heat/engine/constraints.py", line 84, in __init__\n raise InvalidSchemaError(_(\'Invalid type (%s)\') % self.type)\n', | 14:18 |
| my_openstack_use | u'InvalidSchemaError: Invalid type (m1.nano)\n']. | 14:18 |
| my_openstack_use | sorry, I got no pastebin suggestion | 14:19 |
| ryansb | my_openstack_use: can you please use http://paste.openstack.org/ to send your template and the logs? | 14:20 |
| my_openstack_use | http://pastebin.com/RqLd1Rsh | 14:20 |
| my_openstack_use | one step ahead of you | 14:20 |
| my_openstack_use | my client usually prompts for pastebin, but it didnt this time | 14:20 |
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| ryansb | Oh, that's a neat feature. | 14:21 |
| ryansb | Can you also paste in the section of your template where you use m1.nano? | 14:21 |
| my_openstack_use | http://paste.openstack.org/show/123160/ | 14:21 |
| my_openstack_use | ryansb: what do you mean? | 14:22 |
| my_openstack_use | ryansb: sec | 14:23 |
| ryansb | To help you with your template I'll need to see the relevant section of it, which in your case will likely be an OS::Nova::Server resource declaration | 14:23 |
| openstackgerrit | William C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implements stack lifecycle scheduler hints https://review.openstack.org/96889 | 14:25 |
| openstackgerrit | William C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implements stack lifecycle scheduler hints https://review.openstack.org/96889 | 14:25 |
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| my_openstack_use | ryansb: Start of my template parameter section looks like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/123166/ | 14:27 |
| my_openstack_use | I think heat fails when processing the first parameter | 14:27 |
| my_openstack_use | ryansb: I got this from template-show | 14:27 |
| my_openstack_use | ryansb: hold on for NOva Server | 14:28 |
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| shardy | my_openstack_use: one of your parameters has the type "m1.nano" | 14:29 |
| shardy | which is not a valid type | 14:29 |
| shardy | probably, you meant type: string and default: m1.nano | 14:30 |
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| Putns | does the ordering of the parameter options matter? | 14:30 |
| Putns | its a dictionary, isnt it? | 14:30 |
| ryansb | the parameter section seems to parse correctly ( http://yaml-online-parser.appspot.com/?yaml=parameters%3A%0A++AA_BB_Flavor%3A+%7Bdefault%3A+m1.nano%2C+type%3A+string%7D%0A&type=json ) | 14:30 |
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| my_openstack_use | ryansb: The template is usign a scaling goup: http://paste.openstack.org/show/123167/ | 14:31 |
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| my_openstack_use | shardy: part of template is automatically generated using py-yaml, I don't really have control of order, which shouldn't matter anyway | 14:33 |
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| my_openstack_use | ryansb full template seems to parse ok for me | 14:37 |
| ryansb | my_openstack_use: yeah, it does look correct | 14:40 |
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| ryansb | maybe try hard coding "m1.nano" into the template to see if the problem is in the get_attr call or somewhere else. | 14:43 |
| therve | my_openstack_use, The error message would say that you have type: m1.nano in your template | 14:43 |
| therve | Not what you pasted | 14:43 |
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| my_openstack_use | ryansb: will try | 14:48 |
| ryansb | also make sure the template you're using is up-to-date with what you pasted | 14:48 |
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| my_openstack_use | ryansb: I posted output from heat template-show | 14:49 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Don't import HeatTestCase directly https://review.openstack.org/130130 | 14:50 |
| shardy | my_openstack_use: the errors you pasted were from a failed create, so probably template-show won't give you what you need | 14:51 |
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| shardy | please paste the template you passed to the stack-create command when the failure happened | 14:51 |
| my_openstack_use | shardy: I can't paste all of the template | 14:52 |
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| ryansb | would it be possible to post the template w/ sensitive data *****'d out? | 14:54 |
| shardy | my_openstack_use: Ok, well I assume you have grepped for "type: m1.nano"? | 14:55 |
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| my_openstack_use | shardy: where? | 14:55 |
| shardy | in your template(s) | 14:55 |
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| my_openstack_use | ok, I've tried hard-coding 'm1.nano' and I still get the same error. I've dumped the tempalte before stack creation and it only contains 'm1.nano' in parameter section | 15:02 |
| my_openstack_use | I'll try to edit the template now | 15:06 |
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| my_openstack_use | This should be the template without sensitive data: http://paste.openstack.org/show/123185/ | 15:09 |
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| my_openstack_use | I';ve changed a few resource and parameter names, removed a few parameters and resources and some metadata properties | 15:10 |
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| hdd | I have a template with an InstanceGroup. In Havana, I could dig down into the group using resource-list to get the instance details. I'm upgrading to Icehouse, and see that the same template creates and InstanceGroup with a ScaledResource type | 17:59 |
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| hdd | I wasn't able to do resource-list on the ScaledResource, and didn't see that resource type listed in described in the template guide | 18:00 |
| hdd | how do I find the instances contained in the InstanceGroup? | 18:01 |
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| larsks | hdd: If you run 'heat resource-show <yourstack> <instancegroup_name>' to get the physical id, and then 'heat resource-list <physical-id>' does that work? Or is that what you're already doing? | 18:02 |
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| hdd | larsks, yes, resource-list for the InstanceGroup shows me the ScaledResource in the InstanceGroup | 18:08 |
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| larsks | hdd: can you post the output? I don't have a stack with an instancegroup handy. | 18:08 |
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| hdd | larsks, have a look: http://paste.openstack.org/show/123252/ | 18:16 |
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| larsks | hdd: I see...aaaaaand, I have no idea. | 18:18 |
| hdd | (-: | 18:19 |
| hdd | larsks, ah, figured it out: OS::Heat::ScaledResource is an alias resource type. Its physical_resource_id is the id of the nova instance | 18:22 |
| larsks | hdd: Ah, nice. I was reading through http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-November/019659.html and thought it might be saying something like that. | 18:23 |
| hdd | thanks for looking into it | 18:25 |
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| asalkeld | morning | 19:51 |
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| asalkeld | meeting in 2 mins | 19:58 |
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| pas-ha | ok guys, see you tomorrow, midnight here :) g'night | 21:00 |
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| ryansb | seeya pas-ha | 21:01 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker, zaneb: I agree with your arguments about moving from nova to neutron. However couple questions still worry me: 1. How to easy should migrate user from nova to neutron (I suppose , that deleting all old resource is not solution)? 2. Should we support old nova resources (by making they compatible with other new OS resources) till nova network be deprecated? | 21:03 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: some nova-network APIs will proxy through to neutron, so that helps. | 21:03 |
| skraynev | p.s. I have no objections about spending more time for improvement usability session :) | 21:04 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: also this might help a bit by making it possible to write nova-network templates which just work on neutron https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130093/ | 21:04 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: specifically the server-with-floating-ip pattern | 21:05 |
| zaneb | skraynev: have you read https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101921/ ? | 21:05 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: what about loadbalancer? | 21:06 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: probably not portable | 21:06 |
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| skraynev | zaneb: Honestly, no. however I will discuss it tomorrow ;) Also it's not resolve main problem for me: if user had nova resource (and he do not want to delete it), how he can switch from deprecated nova network to new neutron resources in Heat? | 21:09 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: a neutron port can currently have multiple fixed_ips defined. Do you know if it would upset anyone if we limit that to one IP per port for blueprint rich-network-prop? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130093/ | 21:09 |
| zaneb | I didn't say it resolved the problem, just that it might be worth reading | 21:09 |
| skraynev | ok, got it. | 21:10 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: oh, probably | 21:10 |
| asalkeld | skraynev, well i think it might be worth writing up the issues and some possible solutions | 21:10 |
| skraynev | so aim of previous topic was to make sure that users with old nova resources will not kill us during migration on neutron :) | 21:10 |
| asalkeld | to get the rest of the team understanding the pain | 21:11 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: sure :) | 21:11 |
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| asalkeld | on issue is we have project names in the resource | 21:11 |
| skraynev | just wanted to clarify worries. I did not want to argue with folks :) | 21:12 |
| asalkeld | maybe we need compatible OS::BasicNetworking::* resources | 21:12 |
| asalkeld | that can work with both nova and neutron | 21:12 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: maybe it will be enough to define an OS::Neutron::Port resource if they want more than one address | 21:12 |
| skraynev | hm. sounds interesting | 21:12 |
| skraynev | and with less pain | 21:12 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: yeah | 21:13 |
| zaneb | would be nice if Nova fixed their *glaring* bug though :( | 21:13 |
| skraynev | ok, will think about it tomorrow. need to sleep. | 21:13 |
| skraynev | g'night all :) | 21:14 |
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| shardy | If anyone else has seen recent ResourceGroup misbehavior, please add into to bug #1383709 | 21:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1383709 in heat "ResourceGroup count is causing increment on stack-update" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1383709 | 21:17 |
| asalkeld | night skraynev | 21:17 |
| shardy | s/into/info | 21:17 |
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| zaneb | shardy: yikes | 21:19 |
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| shardy | zaneb: Yeah, I'm not yet sure what's going on | 21:20 |
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| ccrouch | zaneb: ping | 21:32 |
| zaneb | o/ | 21:32 |
| ccrouch | call? | 21:32 |
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