Friday, 2014-09-12

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openstackgerritWinnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for reset parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10946500:06
openstackgerritWinnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for patching parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10910500:06
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asalkeldstevebaker, what's allowed to be approved now?00:38
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asalkeldwe haven't branched yet have we00:39
stevebakerasalkeld: bug fixes or juno-rc1 blueprints. we don't branch until rc100:39
asalkeldok, to00:39
asalkeldta00:39
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openstackgerritWinnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for reset parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10946500:47
openstackgerritWinnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for patching parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10910500:47
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asalkeldstevebaker, do we support provider templates around sofwareconfig?01:12
asalkeldhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/113260/8/heat/engine/resources/software_config/software_deployment.py01:12
asalkeld^01:12
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stevebakerasalkeld: yes we do see the comments in patch set 701:14
stevebakerasalkeld: yes we do. etc01:14
asalkeldlooking01:14
asalkeldstevebaker, but it's in a validate01:15
asalkeldnothing is created yet01:15
stevebakerhonestly the case should be so rare that I'd prefer not to validate for this at all, or do it in handle_create01:16
asalkeldyeah, I am not a fan of validate01:16
asalkeldas we dont01:16
asalkeldas we don't have the tools to deal with missing data01:16
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asalkeld(static checking on a dynamic template is tricky)01:17
asalkeldall it seems to do is duplicate the validation lookups01:17
asalkeldosprofiler made that obvious01:17
asalkeld2* calls to nova.flavor_list and glance.image_list01:18
stevebakerhmm, we should be caching that01:22
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asalkeldyip01:24
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Qiminghi, stevebaker01:31
stevebakerQiming: hi01:31
Qimingdo you know if this will land in Juno? https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/multi-region-support,n,z01:31
asalkeldQiming, i wish it would01:31
asalkeldit's been up for ages01:32
Qimingasalkeld, I agree with you, so I brought up this question01:32
asalkeldin one month it will be one year01:32
asalkeldyikes!01:32
stevebakerQiming: It won't, its not ready yet and it missed the feature freeze. Do you want to ask bgorski to give someone else a go... like you ;)01:34
Qimingstevebaker, I'd like to talk to him01:35
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.api  https://review.openstack.org/10948705:28
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/12000406:01
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inc0good morning everyone06:08
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Manually update requirements to oslo.messaging  https://review.openstack.org/11779107:16
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Qiminghi, therve07:20
TinoHi07:20
therveHi07:20
TinoIt is the first time I use this service07:20
TinoI am having a problem with heat07:20
Qimingtherve, if you are not so busy, I would appreciate your review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120756/ and the dependent patches07:21
Tinook, I'll do that07:21
TinoThanks07:21
Qimingtherve, I don't mean to nagging you. I'm raising this request because, as you know it well, the restructure thing is a lot of work07:23
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therveQiming, I know. I'm unlikely to review it though.?07:23
therves/?//07:23
Qimingtherve, thanks anyway. any hint who else might feel comfortable reviewing this?07:24
therveQiming, Maybe you can add as reviewers people who approved the spec?07:25
Qimingif the depended patch is not reviewed, the whole work will accumulate into a long train/chain ..07:25
Qimingtherve, good suggestion!07:25
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therveTino, That comment wasn't addressed to you FWIW07:26
TinoAhm yes I see07:26
TinoI am having problem with heat, testing a basic command heat stack-list it blocks forever07:27
TinoI have enabled the logs but little I can see there07:28
Qimingtherve, btw, I completely understand that the team has to prioritize reviews as the release deadline is approaching07:28
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therveTino, How did you deploy Heat?07:29
Tinoby following the instructions on the openstack web07:30
Tinoit's in the controller node07:30
therveI don't know what's the openstack web07:30
TinoThe ones here: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/yum/content/heat-install.html07:31
therveOkay. What's your distrib and version?07:32
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TinoIt's an Ubuntu07:32
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therveSo you probably didn't follow those intructions :)07:32
therveBecause they are for a RPM based distrib07:33
Tino3.13.0-24-generic #47-Ubuntu07:33
Tinoyes, had to install the packages with apt07:33
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therveI'd suggest looking at http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/heat-install.html to see if you missed something07:35
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therveThen check that all the heat services are running07:35
therveYou should also run heat client with the --debug option to see where it's blocked07:35
TinoAh, ok, I'll have a look to them07:36
Tinoit sends the request to heat-api but this rever respond07:36
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QimingTino, for Ubuntu, you may want to check this link: http://docs.openstack.org/icehouse/install-guide/install/apt/content/ch_heat.html07:36
TinoOK07:37
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TinoThanks!07:37
TinoI'll review these docs and I will came again if the problem persists07:37
TinoThanks a lot07:37
shardyTino: that happens if either heat-engine is not running, or if heat-api can't reach heat-engine via RPC (e.g the broker is not running)07:37
shardythere could be other reasons, but that's the first thing to check IMO07:38
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Tinomust be the second because heat-engine is all time in wait instruction07:38
shardyQiming: I'll review your patches today07:38
Qimingthanks, shardy.07:38
TinoThe broker is rabbitMQ?07:39
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pas-hamorning all07:40
shardyQiming: I know you want your stuff reviewed, but given it's not been posted that long, you may find it's counterproductive to chase on IRC07:40
shardyQiming: also, it's not been granted a FFE, so we can't merge it for Juno anyway07:41
shardyI think it's worthwhile work though, so I will provide feedback07:41
Qimingshardy, I know I should not be chasing on IRC, and I know it won't land in Juno.07:42
Qimingshardy, the reason I was pleading here is that I am a little worried -- if I'm building a long chain for review, that means it will take much much long time, considering some rebase requirement07:43
shardyTino: probably, it depends what you installed, I run qpid for example07:44
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Qimingmorning, pas-ha07:44
shardyQiming: Sure, but that's a consequence of starting the work during feature freeze, not a lack of reviews ;)07:44
shardymost of the patches are pretty small so the rebase pain shouldn't be too bad07:45
Qimingshardy, got your point. The work wasn't started at the ideal moment -- just realized that.07:45
Qimingshardy, I intended to balance between number of patches and size of each patch.07:46
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Qimingsmaller patches are much easier for review, but it also means more commits to bother the cores07:47
Tinoshardy, I use RabbitMQ, so I will try to enable logs there..ç07:47
shardylots of small patches is almost always better (within reason of course)07:48
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Qimingshardy, please let me know if you see something I need to improve07:49
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therveshardy, I responded to your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92124/ btw08:01
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shardytherve: ah, thanks08:02
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shardytherve: +2 - added zaneb, if he's happy to add it to RC1 as a FFE we might be able to merge those two remaining patches08:09
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therveshardy, Great, thank you.08:10
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thervehttps://review.openstack.org/117791 would be good to land, to unblock the sync requirements job09:18
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gstaicuhi larks!09:23
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add --show-nested option to stack-list  https://review.openstack.org/11423910:55
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Add a server with volumes ResourceGroup example  https://review.openstack.org/11901510:59
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ishantHi11:01
ishantwhen stack is persisted in DB in stack.store() , the stack resources are not persisted. Can you please tell me why it is like this?11:03
ishantdue to this every "heat resource-list" api creates a whole stack object and then returns the parameters list11:04
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therveishant, What's your expectation?11:22
ishantwhen it is storing the stack, it should store the resources also11:22
therveIt does store everything it needs11:23
therveI'm wondering what you think is missing11:23
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ishanttherve: no it is not done while stack is persisted11:35
therveishant, What "it" ?11:36
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ishantpersisting resource in db11:36
ishantresources are persisted when they are in process of creation11:36
therveOkay, so if I rephrase, you're saying that resources are persisted too late in the process?11:38
ishantyes correct11:38
therveSo what kind of issues does it create?11:38
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ishantfor every "heat resource-list" api call it creates the whole stack object and then gives the list of resources11:42
therveAnd?11:43
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therveresource-list result is not correct until all resources are started to be created?11:43
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ishantresource-list output is correct but it is not efficient11:49
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ryansbGood (us-east) morning all12:02
Qiming_ryansb, good (ap) evening, :)12:03
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shardyishant: creating one python object is not all that expensive, in comparison to say the actual call to a remote database to get the stack and raw_temlate record12:51
shardyIf we persisted a bunch of empty resources then it would be even less efficient12:52
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ishantshardy: it is already doing both the operations, creating a new object and also fetching from db12:53
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add snapshot restore HTTP API  https://review.openstack.org/9212513:28
openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement stack restore  https://review.openstack.org/9212413:28
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add --show-nested option to stack-list  https://review.openstack.org/11423913:53
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shadowershardy: I think I've finally cracked it! (the ec2 instance tempest test we talked about yesterday)14:00
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shadowerthe test that was always failing finally passed. Will see if the rest passes, clean it up and let you know14:00
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enable SoftwareDeployment for SoftwareComponent  https://review.openstack.org/11295414:01
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enhance SoftwareComponent property validation  https://review.openstack.org/11325914:01
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS::Heat::SoftwareComponent resource  https://review.openstack.org/11295214:01
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Validate SoftwareDeployment with SoftwareComponent  https://review.openstack.org/11326014:01
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larsksshardy: I've run into a problem with Fn::Join where it seems to be behaving differently in the 'params' section of str_replace vs. the 'value' of an output...have you seen that before?14:06
larsksSpecifically: http://chunk.io/f/76940063501b4430a4830ab6dbe656c614:06
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Validate SoftwareDeployment with SoftwareComponent  https://review.openstack.org/11326014:08
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thervelarsks, Presumably your get_attr is returning None when calculating user_data14:12
larskstherve: maybe, but I can't figure out why.14:12
thervelarsks, Maybe you have a wrong dependency order?14:13
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therveAlthough that should raise an error14:13
larskstherve: Right, and I thought that calling get_attr on another resource set a dependency.14:14
larsks...is that not the case?14:14
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therveYeah14:14
larskstherve: if you care to take a look, the full template is here: https://github.com/larsks/heat-kubernetes/tree/getattr_problems14:17
larsksI've solved this for now by including the list in a metadata: key, and then getting that with curl from inside the user_data script.14:17
larsksIt works, but it's a little hacky.14:18
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larskstherve: what's odd is that the same get_attr call returns a non-empty value in the metadata: key, defined in the same resource as the user_data.14:21
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shardylarsks: Does it work if you put a depends_on in the definition of the server resource where you're referencing kube_minions in the user_data?14:23
shardyIt sounds like we're not adding the implicit dependency correctly14:24
shardyshadower: good news, thanks! :)14:24
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shardylarsks: failing that, can you confirm if the get_attr works in the user_data if not wrapped by the Fn::Join?14:28
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larsksshardy: I think then I get a "params must be strings" error...14:28
larsksshardy: Let me try an explicit depends_on...this would be against the kube_minions ResourceGroup.14:29
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shardylarsks: you can also check dependencies via heat resource-show, the "required_by" data14:31
larsksRight; the problem being in this case that because of the error the stack doesn't get created, so I can't run resource-show against it.14:32
larsksshardy: So, without the Fn::Join, the stack ends up as CREATE_FAILED with: "params must be strings or numbers"14:32
shardyHrm, we should really allow that even on failed stacks shouldn't we..14:33
larsksBut the same call, in the metadata: property, is demonstrably working.14:33
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larsksshardy: It's odd.  The Fn::Join error acts more like a parse error (the stack simply doesn't get created at all).14:34
shardylarsks: this is on Icehouse right?14:36
larsksThat's correct.14:36
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shardylarsks: Have you seen bug #1358831 ?14:41
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1358831 in heat "get_attr used within list_join in SoftwareConfig returns none" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135883114:41
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larsksI had not, but that sure sounds relevant :)14:42
shardyYeah, it does sound very similar :)14:42
shadowershardy: okay, this should be it (once the tests pass) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120749/714:42
* shardy sees if it applies cleanly to Icehouse14:42
larsksshardy: seems to apply cleanly.14:43
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larsksAnd look at that, now the template validates, at least.14:44
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larsksAnd it generates the correct value in the resulting user_data.14:47
larsksshardy: Thanks!14:47
shardy\o/ :)14:47
shardylarsks: would you be interested in proposing the backport to stable/icehouse, or shall I do it?14:47
shardy(if you propose, I can review it ;)14:47
larsksshardy: sure, I will do that...and since I've never done that before, what exactly do I do?14:48
larsksJust cherry-pick the patch to stable/icehouse and 'git review'?14:48
shardyhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch14:48
shardySee "Proposing fixes"14:48
shardybasically yes, check out a branch locally from stable/icehouse, then git review stable/icehouse14:49
shardyNote you should maintain the ChangeId from the patch in master14:49
larsksRight.14:49
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larsksshardy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121139/14:51
ryansbjpeeler: when you get a chance can you un- and re-workflow+1 this patch?14:51
shardylarsks: thanks!14:51
ryansbjpeeler: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120426/ the tests failed on gate, but reverify didn't rerun them.14:52
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jpeelerryansb: is that a known workaround for getting it unstuck? it does appear to have been in the queue for while14:58
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thervejpeeler, There is a 26h wait in the queue15:00
zanebjpeeler, ryansb: reverify has some odd limitations. basically always use recheck15:00
therveAnd it's only been there 22h30!15:00
thervePatience is everything15:01
ryansbzaneb: ah. The docs appeared to recommend reverify.15:01
therveI think it worked in this case15:01
therveIt's just atrociously long15:01
ryansb26h....jeez.15:01
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ryansbCan I expense meditation classes to cope with the CI?15:02
jpeelerryansb: did you know about this here: http://status.openstack.org/zuul/15:02
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ryansbjpeeler: yeah I did, but I didn't think the queue would be >1 day long15:04
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zanebryansb: welcome to release time ;)15:13
* ryansb was not prepared15:15
pscheieIs there an example somewhere of using get_attr and networks attribute of OS::Nova::Server?15:15
pscheieI can't quite get my head around the syntax.15:16
ryansbzaneb: but it's just a docs change!15:16
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shardypscheie: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/F20/WordPress_2_Instances.yaml#L14015:44
pscheieshardy, thank you!  I instantly spotted my mistake looking at the example.15:45
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make InstanceGroup subclass of ResourceGroup  https://review.openstack.org/11961915:52
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larsksshardy: Thanks for your help earlier; this is now working just dandy: https://github.com/larsks/heat-kubernetes15:53
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shardylarsks: np, glad we found a simple fix :)15:53
DandyPandythat means it's working well. I should know.15:54
DandyPandysorry, notification went off and I couldn't help it15:54
larsksWow.15:54
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* larsks would say, "Geez, Louise", but is afraid of attracing someone else...15:54
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Qiming_shardy, for your information, just revised the validate() method to make it a little less obtrusive.15:57
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove _environment method from ASG.  https://review.openstack.org/12040916:04
openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove timeout from ResourceGroup method call.  https://review.openstack.org/12067616:04
openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove unncecessary child_params parameter.  https://review.openstack.org/12075616:05
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shardyQiming_: Ok, thanks16:12
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shardylifeless: Hey, FYI I updated bug #1306294 with some thoughts following related ML discussions16:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1306294 in tripleo "Heat fails to re-authenticate when faced with authentication failure during stack operations" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130629416:12
Qiming_shardy, many thanks to your other comments as well, really appreciate them.16:13
shardyI'm trying to decide if we should attempt any "fix" in heat or just live with the extended token expiry workaround, in the light of the ML thread16:14
shardyIf you have time to provide feedback at some point it would be much appreciated :)16:14
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shardySpamapS: ^^ also, I see it was actually you who raised the bug ;)16:15
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jdandreaHeat resource plugin question: Do I use _resolve_attribute or FnGetAtt to resolve my attributes? I'm seeing both used in the underlying plugins. Suspecting the latter is for CFN compatibility but I'm not 100% sure.16:49
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openstackgerritIonut-Madalin Balutoiu proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: HOT for IIS with Drupal  https://review.openstack.org/12020217:29
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zanebSpamapS: I think the point you're missing on this Zaqar thread is that everybody now agrees that the inbox thing was a bad idea and nobody wants it17:40
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SpamapSzaneb: browsing messages is still inbox18:00
SpamapSIt was a side effect of wanting _that_18:00
zanebdefine 'browsing'18:00
SpamapSThe API lets you paginate what is in the queue18:00
zaneband that doesn't go away when they remove access to individual messages?18:02
zanebhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/121141/18:02
SpamapSzaneb: They've stated that it is desired. But I may have fully misunderstood that.18:02
zaneb"The feedback from Zaqar's early adopters is that the endpoint is indeed not useful."18:03
zanebpatch above removes it18:03
SpamapSzaneb: the resulting API still takes limit and marker in list messages.18:03
SpamapSso by ID now becomes by arbitrary window18:03
zanebyou have to claim them to get them, though, presumably?18:04
SpamapSclaimed holding pen is still a queue of sorts18:04
SpamapSanyway I'm late for a meeting18:04
zanebthat's fair18:05
* SpamapS is VERY happy to be proven wrong btw. :)18:05
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SpamapSI just want to feel good about using it18:05
* zaneb just wants to get to the bottom of all the confusion18:05
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-specs: Add RSS feed  https://review.openstack.org/12051118:30
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-specs: Remove templates from toctrees  https://review.openstack.org/12051218:32
lifelessshardy_afk: cool18:38
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lifelessshardy_afk: at conf today, may need a reminder to poke at it on monday18:39
bjornar_How can I provide feedback from a script on an instance that the instance is ready?18:43
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bjornar_waitcondition..18:49
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zanebwait, HP bought Eucalyptus?19:06
* zaneb is so far behind19:06
jpeelerwhy would they do that?19:07
ryansbjpeeler: I'm not totally sure either19:08
ryansbbut I know they did19:08
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ryansb\o/ my docs change is now being run by gate19:09
jpeeleris that like 28 hours?19:10
ryansb26.6 hr19:10
ryansbbut that's not counting the previous time where gate failed, which was probably 10-12 hr19:10
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vahidhHi all. does anyone know the answer to this question? http://goo.gl/S8crJe19:17
zanebjpeeler: it appears they wanted to hire the CEO19:17
ryansbzaneb: he was the CTO/lead something of mysql prior to eucalyptus, right?19:18
jpeelerhrm, interesting19:18
zanebryansb: according to wikipedia he was the CEO of MySQL until Sun bought it19:20
ryansbyeah, "lead something". Also: "The deal calls for Marten Mickos, CEO of Eucalyptus, to take over as Senior VP and head of HP’s cloud business unit"19:21
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zanebI sure won't miss the last guy19:22
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor AWS::EC2::SecurityGroup resource  https://review.openstack.org/11630419:26
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement update of AWS::EC2::SecurityGroup rules  https://review.openstack.org/8854819:27
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Unittests: refactor AWS::EC2::SecurityGroup tests  https://review.openstack.org/12120719:27
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pscheieI've got a MultipartMime resource that pulls in two other resources that each create a file in the same directory.19:37
pscheieThe two files created have different names.19:37
pscheieThe MultipartMime resource also pulls in a resources for puppet and yum configuration.19:38
pscheieBut WRT the two resources that each create a file, only the last one listed works.19:38
pscheieThat is, if in the parts section I list ResourceA then ResourceB, only ResourceB's file gets created.19:39
pscheieIf I change the order in the parts section to ResourceB then ResourceA, then only the file from ResourceA gets created on the instance.19:40
pscheieWhat would cause this?19:40
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Add heat-keystone-setup-domain to sphinx conf.py  https://review.openstack.org/12042620:14
jpeelerjj20:20
larsksShould I expect the alarm_url from a ScalingPolicy resource to be usable without modification via, e.g., curl?20:20
jpeeler/20:23
larsksjpeeler: cat got yer keyboard?20:24
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jpeelermosh session hung, that was weird. that's supposed to be the whole advantage of using mosh...20:24
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pas-havahidh, answered20:29
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shardylarsks: yes, curl should work21:26
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larsksshardy: I'm getting "user is unauthorized" messages from the API. I will look closer layer... Kid soccer time.21:30
larsksErrr, later.21:30
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vahidhpas-ha, got it. thanks a lot. I'll try your approach on my environment.21:39
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