Wednesday, 2014-09-10

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harlowjaoh man, time to go read the tc notes about zaquar, popcorn time!00:08
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kfox1111harlowja: have a link? :)00:18
harlowjahttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/045499.html00:18
kfox1111thx. :)00:18
harlowjaget a couple of bags of popcorn, lol00:18
asalkeldme too00:19
harlowjahttp://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-09-09-20.01.log.txt (also intersting)00:19
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openstackgerritAdrian Vladu proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: HOT for MSSQL Server 2012 SP2 with unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/12028900:43
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openstackgerritAdrian Vladu proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: HOT for MSSQL Server 2012 SP2 with unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/12028900:54
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openstackgerritAdrian Vladu proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: HOT for MSSQL Server 2012 SP2 with unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/12028901:01
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stevebakerjoeroyall: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120280/01:48
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stevebakerjoeroyall: Feel free to make any comments in the review. I've done image building and boot config, doing software config and software deployment resources next.01:48
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joeroyallwill do01:49
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.contrib  https://review.openstack.org/10948401:54
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.api  https://review.openstack.org/10948701:59
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stevebakerasalkeld: should we just make osprofiler a mandatory dependency for heatclient?02:03
asalkeldhi stevebaker, probably not02:03
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asalkeldthe patches to other clients have optional imports02:04
stevebakeror optional but added to requirements.txt?02:04
asalkeldif it's in requirements.txt it is mandory isn't it02:04
stevebakerit is for pip instals02:04
asalkeldyeah02:04
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asalkeldstevebaker, re: the observer (convergence)02:07
asalkeldwhat are the resources we wait for the most?02:07
asalkeldserver02:07
asalkeldsoftware deployment?02:07
stevebakersignals/waitconditions02:07
asalkeldthat's right02:07
stevebakertrove/sahara02:07
stevebakernested stacks02:07
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asalkeldjust thinking it doesn't need to be totally general02:08
asalkeldmost are webhooks now02:08
stevebakerglance image would take a while sometimes02:08
asalkeld(when we discover that they are ready, we could make ceilometer alarms for server ready)02:09
asalkeld(and that glance download)02:09
asalkeld2 things02:09
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stevebakersome neutron resources have lifecycle states02:09
asalkeldI didn't know that02:10
stevebakersearch for what implements check_create_complete02:11
asalkeldgood point02:11
stevebakerNet, Port, Router, lb Pool02:12
stevebakerVolume02:12
asalkeldso i *could* make a webhook that ends up calling check_create_complete02:12
asalkeldmmm02:13
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stevebakerI remember talk of the ceilometer alarm option, that it was quite heavy-weight and the resource might already be live by the time it is set up so the event will be missed02:14
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asalkeldyeah, it would have to be a generic alarm02:14
asalkeld(builtin)02:14
asalkeldlooks for stack_id in notification metadata02:14
asalkeldbut maybe we send rpc message instead of webhook02:15
asalkeld(to lessen the keystone chatter)02:15
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.engine  https://review.openstack.org/10951203:04
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openstackgerritAdrian Vladu proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: HOT for MSSQL Server 2012 SP2 with unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/12028903:29
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openstackgerritunmesh-gurjar proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fixed adopt failure for stack with resource group  https://review.openstack.org/11935505:49
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inc0good morning06:34
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inc0Qiming, ping06:48
Qiminginc0, hi06:49
inc0hello06:49
inc0you have said that you have patch to nova with notifs about hosts down?06:50
Qimingyes, inc006:50
inc0can I see it anywhere?06:51
Qimingat service_group api06:51
QimingI haven't submit it yet06:51
QimingI can share with you the patch, if that is what you want06:51
inc0I could help you with that if you want06:52
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Qimingyour email?06:54
inc0michal.jastrzebski@intel.com06:55
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Qimingokay, sent06:56
inc0thanks:)06:56
inc0I'll take a look06:56
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Qiminginc0, it was based on icehouse, but you can figure out how things can be done there06:56
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inc0Qiming, do you mind if I push this forward a bit?06:57
inc0I'll need that functionality06:57
Qimingnot sure I understand what do you mean by 'push this forward'06:58
inc0finish it or rewrite it and post it upstream06:58
Qimingsure.06:58
inc0thanks :)06:59
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-specs: Decouple Nested Stacks from parents  https://review.openstack.org/11329607:12
openstackgerritIonut-Madalin Balutoiu proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: HOT for IIS with Drupal  https://review.openstack.org/12020207:13
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shardyQiming: Sharing patches as WIP via gerrit is better than person-to-person email IMO :)07:21
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shardyothers may be interested in seeing the work and discussing it07:21
shardymorning all btw ;)07:21
shardyor, sometimes we push experimental branches of stuff to forks on our personal github repos07:22
shardy(if it's lots of patches and/or really not ready for pushing to gerrit)07:22
cmystermorning shardy07:24
openstackgerritIonut-Madalin Balutoiu proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: HOT for IIS with Drupal  https://review.openstack.org/12020207:25
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10516607:33
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Qiminghi, shardy07:42
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Qiminghow can I share this via gerrit?07:43
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shardyQiming: You can just post the patch for review, then set workflow -1, which means "work in progress"07:44
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.engine  https://review.openstack.org/10951207:56
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Qimingshardy, it is a nova patch, but the WIP way still works, right?08:02
shardyQiming: Yes, the process is the same for all OpenStack projects AFAIK08:02
Qimingokay, can try that08:02
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pas-hamorning all08:10
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inc0shardy, Qiming I'll post it upstream in following days so don't worry:) morning shardy08:21
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_shaps_Hi, I'm creating a stack with heat, but it keeps failing with "Unkown property index_var", an excerpt of the template is here: http://pastebin.com/LHLVKY7308:38
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Qiming_shaps_, heat resource-type-show OS::Heat::ResourceGroup | grep index_var08:43
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_shaps_It's not there08:52
_shaps_http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Heat::ResourceGroup08:52
_shaps_But it is here...08:52
Qiming_shaps_, then you need to check your heat version, because 'index_var' is a pretty new property08:53
_shaps_0.2.808:54
_shaps_Which apparently is the latest in ubuntu08:55
Qiming_shaps_, 'heat --version' only tells you the version of python-heatclient08:55
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_shaps_That's true, sorry08:56
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_shaps_They're all on 2014.1.2-0ubuntu108:57
_shaps_heat-api, heat-engine, heat-common and python-heat08:57
Qiming_shaps_, the 'index_var' property was merged on 2014-08-0908:57
_shaps_aww08:57
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inc0shardy, tell me please, is there any working going on convergence observer currently?09:00
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inc0besides spec09:00
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shardyinc0: you can track progress via the blueprint whiteboard:09:02
shardyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/convergence-observer09:02
inc0ah, thanks09:02
shardyThere have been a couple of patches posted, but we won't be landing them until Kilo opens09:02
inc0ok, I guess, I'll take a look at them if you don't mind. I'm processing what I have learned yesterday;)09:04
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inc0also, is there any correct way to run heat over existing deployment? Because, as I understand, now you eighter create your stack using heat template or you don't use heat at all. Can I for example import my current vms to heat and turn them into heat stack?09:07
shardyinc0: It is possible, but not reccomended, via stack-adopt09:08
inc0shardy, why its not reccomended?09:08
shardyYou'd have to create a file equivalent to what stack-abandon gives you by hand, which will invariably be error-prone09:08
shardyalso there are some outstanding bugs related to stack-adopt which may prevent adopt of some resources working correctly09:09
shardyadopting just some instances would probably work OK though09:09
inc0ok, thanks, may be worth fixing this thing, seems like good feature to heat09:10
shardyYeah, there are some patches up for most of the issues09:11
inc0allright, I'll work on that as well09:13
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix file mode, remove executable bit.  https://review.openstack.org/12035709:39
Qimingah, https mode 'git review' did worked, but it is very very slow09:40
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tiantianQiming: hi, about the https://review.openstack.org/120357, how I can see the file mode is changed?09:47
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Qimingtiantian, I was wondering about the same question, :)09:48
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tiantianQiming: ?09:50
shardyQiming: I think if you change the patch so it *only* changes the mode, it's visible in the view of the file09:52
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Qimingtiantian, click (gitweb) link on the "patch set 1 ...." line, then you can see a detailed diff where "old mode 1000755, new mode 100644" is shown09:53
Qimingshardy, I didn't know that.  I was worrying the other way around -- maybe I had to change something.  :)09:54
shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/24943/1/heat/db/sync.py,unified09:56
shardyThere's an example of such a patch, but your way works too :)09:56
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Qimingshardy, thanks.09:56
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tiantianshardy: hi, you mean if only change the mode, it's visible in the view of the file, right?10:01
shardytiantian: yes10:01
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tiantianshardy: I got it:)10:02
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Help message of configurations support i18n  https://review.openstack.org/11900210:04
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix AWS::EC2::VPC resource delete failure  https://review.openstack.org/11933910:05
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shardyryansb: Hey, when you're around I have a request for http://supb.ro/heatdash :)10:10
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.engine  https://review.openstack.org/10951210:31
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ryansbshardy: what would you like?11:10
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Implement AWS::EC2::EIPAssociation updatable  https://review.openstack.org/11856211:12
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shardyryansb: Hey, would it be possible to modify the query for "Needs final +2" so it doesn't include those which have one +2 but also negative feedback?11:38
shardyI looked at the giant query string and it wasn't immediately obvious how to do it11:39
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cmystershardy: iirc you can flag those out, sec lemme find something here11:49
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cmystershardy: try this http://tinyurl.com/klcysxo11:53
cmysterit has a +No+Negative+Feedback in the link11:54
cmystershardy: this one splits them all, you should see a needs a final +2 down there somewhere. atm its empty11:55
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shardyUnsupported query:Negative11:57
shardyhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/109494/11:58
shardyI'm probably doing something dumb, normally I've used queries you can paste into the search box rather than constructing via URL11:58
shardyI really like the idea of having a dashboard that's actually useful though, vs the My Changes one11:59
* shardy has also been experimenting with gertty :)12:00
ryansbshardy: lemme look12:00
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Qimingshardy, how do you feel about gertty?12:02
shardyQiming: I think it's a cool idea but I've not really mastered it yet12:03
ryansbshardy: yeah, here http://bit.ly/WIeqqA12:04
ryansbnow without negative feedback12:04
Qimingcool. I'm installing it now12:04
shardyryansb: thanks! :)12:04
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Qimingno meeting today?12:05
ryansbshardy: protip, gerrit-dash-creator is amazing12:05
ryansbhttps://github.com/stackforge/gerrit-dash-creator/blob/master/dashboards/heat.dash12:05
shardyryansb: cool, I did not know about that :)12:06
praveenkumarwhich property in OS::Nova::Server provide created server/instance UUID, I can see only reservation_id but as per description it's defined uuid for set of servers requested?12:06
ryansbQiming: I have the meeting down for 20:00 UTC today12:06
shardypraveenkumar: get_resource: my_server12:06
ryansbsince last week (03/09/14) was at 12:00 UTC12:06
Qimingah, 20:00 UTC, I must be sleeping like a baby12:07
ryansbshardy: fun fact, the heat dash URL is over 1KB12:07
praveenkumarshardy: thanks, will try it out.12:08
shardypraveenkumar: np, all resources return the resource_id after they are created via get_resource12:08
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praveenkumarshardy: yes, it also worked with output section.12:14
praveenkumars/output/outputs12:14
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zanebQiming, tiantian: after some experimentation, I discovered that if you view the Unified diff instead of side-by-side, the mode changes show up12:22
Qimingzaneb, checking ...12:22
Qimingzaneb, yes, the patch head is shown.. that is cool!12:23
zanebI actually regard that as a bug in Gerrit. it should show mode changes all the time, even if they don'12:23
zanebdon't get it for free12:23
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Qimingmmm, gertty is not for prisoners like me behind the great firewall, sigh ...12:31
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Don't delete stack domain project on stack-abandon  https://review.openstack.org/11984712:53
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inc0shardy, small comment from me12:59
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shardyinc0: thanks, replied :)13:02
inc0meh, one day I'll make constructive comment, I promise:)13:03
shardyinc0: no worries, I appreciate the review anyway :)13:04
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openstackgerritEndre Karlson proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make str(json_param) return string vs python  https://review.openstack.org/12008413:14
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add --show-nested option to stack-list  https://review.openstack.org/11423913:14
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openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove _environment method from ASG.  https://review.openstack.org/12040913:17
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shardyinc0: You might consider removing your -1 since we have dicussed the comment :)13:28
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shardy(many folks filter reviews with existing -1 feedback via queries)13:28
inc0sure, give me a minute13:28
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openstackgerritRyan Brown proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add heat-keystone-setup-domain to sphinx conf.py  https://review.openstack.org/12042614:02
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ryansb^ 3-line change required for juno-3 package release14:03
ryansbif anyone has a minute please review.14:03
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pscheie_Can I use a MultipartMime to merge a str_replace template and a params section?14:21
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openstackgerritRakesh H S proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: handles keyboard interrupt  https://review.openstack.org/12044014:40
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zaneboh man, this Zaqar thread is going to chew up my whole day isn't it15:07
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openstackgerritVijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow filtering of stacks by username, tenant and owner_id  https://review.openstack.org/12023515:19
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ryansbzaneb: yup.15:20
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openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor template simple_parse  https://review.openstack.org/12047116:24
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openstackgerritIonut-Madalin Balutoiu proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: HOT for IIS with Drupal  https://review.openstack.org/12020217:03
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larsksIs there a sane way to use str_replace to insert multiline content into a cloud-config write_files section?  I almost wish there was a str_replace_respecting_current_nesting_level function...18:16
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andersonvomlarsks: I remember folks complaining about that in the past, but AFAIK there's not a lot of ways around it18:24
larsksandersonvom: Thanks.  Bleah.18:25
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Add RSS feed  https://review.openstack.org/12051118:29
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Remove templates from toctrees  https://review.openstack.org/12051218:29
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Use the current date for the copyright statement  https://review.openstack.org/12051318:29
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openstackgerritWilliam C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: AZ spanning for OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup  https://review.openstack.org/11798718:47
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Use the current date for the copyright statement  https://review.openstack.org/12051319:44
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Remove templates from toctrees  https://review.openstack.org/12051219:44
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stevebakermeeting time?20:00
ryansbyup20:00
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stevebakerzaneb, about?20:01
zanebo hai20:01
shardymeeting-o-clock?20:02
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Add RSS feed  https://review.openstack.org/12051120:03
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Use the current date for the copyright statement  https://review.openstack.org/12051320:03
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Remove templates from toctrees  https://review.openstack.org/12051220:03
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pscheie_Does https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1306036 mean nested MultipartMime doesn't work?20:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1306036 in heat ""Layered" MultipartMime for user_data no longer works" [Undecided,Triaged]20:06
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bjornar_Is it possible to choose network, and not having to type in id?20:20
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pas-habjornar_, yes, but depends on what resource are you talking about. with some recent resources you can supply a name of the Neutron resource (like "public")20:50
bjornar_ok.. but you cant autofill a dropdown?20:50
pas-haon horizon - I'm affraid not yet.20:51
pas-habut I might be wrong, not using the Dashboard very often..20:51
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stevebakerbjornar_: if a parameter has a custom constraint then horizon could pre-populate with a list for what that constraint checks for20:59
stevebakerbjornar_: except maybe glance image, there might be too many of those20:59
bjornar_stevebaker, sure, but it cant allocate list from api calls (neutron net-list)21:01
stevebakerbjornar_: I assume horizon doesn't do that currently, but it could21:01
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openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enable SoftwareDeployment for SoftwareComponent  https://review.openstack.org/11295421:03
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enhance SoftwareComponent property validation  https://review.openstack.org/11325921:03
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS::Heat::SoftwareComponent resource  https://review.openstack.org/11295221:03
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Validate SoftwareDeployment with SoftwareComponent  https://review.openstack.org/11326021:03
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bjornar_stevebaker, would be nice21:06
stevebakerbjornar_: yeah, someone should go do that ;)21:07
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bjornar_stevebaker, so do it! ;)21:08
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shardystevebaker: I chatted with jomara about this recently - we were talking about an idea where heat would return the list of constraint allowed values via template-validate (or some similar validation call)21:10
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stevebakershardy: yeah, thats a good idea21:10
shardygiven that we already get the values, and horizone doesn't necessarily know how to introspect the template to figure out what to get21:10
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zanebshardy: I like that idea too21:21
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andersonvomhey everyone, is it possible that there could be a race condition between these three saves during a stack.store()? https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/stack.py#L284-L31421:38
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andersonvomanybody who knows sqlalchemy/mysql that well to explain why it would happen? =)21:39
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10516623:03
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/12060923:09
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openstackgerritSumit Naiksatam proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implements neutron group based policy resources  https://review.openstack.org/11141923:38
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