asalkeld | it just means the user *must* provide the full registry | 00:00 |
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asalkeld | you are also one of the many people changing the rpc api :-( | 00:01 |
tango | asalkeld: Right, the registry is specified the same way as it is done now | 00:02 |
asalkeld | ok, but it is a PATCH | 00:02 |
tango | asalkeld: Hmm, I don't think the RPC api is changed | 00:02 |
asalkeld | and is behaving like a mixture of update and patch | 00:02 |
tango | asalkeld: The ReST API is implemented as a PATCH | 00:03 |
tango | asalkeld: So the api change is a a new PATCH for stack-update | 00:04 |
tango | asalkeld: there should be no change to the existing ones | 00:04 |
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stevebaker | tango: I don't see any rpc api changes. The only other rpc changes I've seen have been adding optional arguments, which is fine as long as engine is upgraded before API | 00:16 |
asalkeld | stevebaker, exactly: do we tell users this? | 00:17 |
stevebaker | asalkeld: release notes would be the appropriate place for that | 00:18 |
asalkeld | and we should really support both forms of upgrade api first or engine first | 00:18 |
lifeless | asalkeld: +100000 | 00:18 |
lifeless | any arbitrary order please | 00:18 |
asalkeld | we keep adding options to the rpc | 00:18 |
lifeless | consider three engines and three apis, each in a pair, over three machines | 00:18 |
asalkeld | and not doing any versioning | 00:18 |
lifeless | if we upgrade one machine | 00:19 |
lifeless | we'll have mixed engine and apis | 00:19 |
asalkeld | lifeless, what about the db? | 00:19 |
asalkeld | schema change | 00:19 |
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asalkeld | hows the old engines going to talk to the new db | 00:19 |
asalkeld | nova object here we come | 00:20 |
lifeless | asalkeld: You can either say 'don't upgrade the db until all engines are upgraded', and make sure the new code works with old db | 00:20 |
lifeless | or say 'upgrade the db first' and make sure old code works with new db | 00:20 |
lifeless | this is a fairly standard pattern | 00:20 |
asalkeld | lifeless, with convergence this is going to get more difficult: more moving pieces and api | 00:21 |
asalkeld | we are hopeless at this atm | 00:22 |
lifeless | atm I thought only engine talked to db | 00:22 |
lifeless | thats actually a pretty good place to be | 00:22 |
asalkeld | yip | 00:22 |
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lifeless | so say you add a column | 00:22 |
lifeless | you add it with a default rather than a required value | 00:23 |
lifeless | and you calculate the value just-in-time if its missing | 00:23 |
lifeless | that sort of thing | 00:23 |
lifeless | then you do the db migration before upgrading the engine or api anywhere | 00:23 |
lifeless | if there's contractions required, do those after the entire environment is upgraded | 00:24 |
lifeless | (dropping columns, tables etc) | 00:24 |
asalkeld | but then we need 2 forms of schema change | 00:24 |
asalkeld | no one in openstack has this | 00:24 |
lifeless | we've had sessions on doing exactly this for the last three summits | 00:24 |
asalkeld | heat-db-mange dbsync-stepone | 00:24 |
asalkeld | heat-db-mange dbsync-final | 00:25 |
asalkeld | this needs to be a requirement before we do convergence | 00:25 |
lifeless | I don't understand how convergence makes this worse | 00:26 |
lifeless | it certainly will be hard to get all the uptime benefits without this for multi-engine sites | 00:26 |
asalkeld | lifeless, just more daemons with api that we need to make sure we are versioning correctly | 00:26 |
asalkeld | we are not atm | 00:26 |
asalkeld | we need to have a plan for upgrading | 00:27 |
stevebaker | column renames may not ever be practical now though http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/db/sqlalchemy/models.py#n235 | 00:28 |
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asalkeld | stevebaker, I hope we can have system where we can | 00:30 |
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asalkeld | we just need 1: a plan, 2: tests to back it up | 00:31 |
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huangtianhua | stevebaker: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117938/ already modify the pep8 nit, would you have a look | 01:10 |
stevebaker | huangtianhua: sorry, my actual comment was in Draft. Posted now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117938/4/heat/engine/resources/eip.py | 01:11 |
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huangtianhua | stevebaker: ok, will change, tks | 01:12 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add validate function for AWS::EC2::EIPAssociation https://review.openstack.org/117938 | 01:19 |
openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Modify the way to get 'network_id' of the port https://review.openstack.org/117961 | 01:19 |
openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix delete failed because association creation failed https://review.openstack.org/117962 | 01:20 |
openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor functions in eip.py https://review.openstack.org/117970 | 01:20 |
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openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement BlockDeviceMappings for LaunchConfiguration https://review.openstack.org/105647 | 01:26 |
stevebaker | asalkeld: do you also have time to look at the oslo.i18 series? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108924/16 | 01:29 |
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asalkeld | stevebaker, done as much as possible | 01:34 |
asalkeld | bunch of jenkins -1 | 01:34 |
stevebaker | oh, might have to defer for that | 01:35 |
stevebaker | will put it in rc-1 for now | 01:36 |
asalkeld | i wonder how many patches go in the last 24hrs | 01:39 |
stevebaker | gate queue is 13 hours :O | 01:39 |
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larsks | I wrote a quick hack for visualizing heat stacks with graphviz: http://blog.oddbit.com/2014/09/02/visualizing-heat-stacks/ | 01:50 |
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asalkeld | nice larsks | 01:52 |
asalkeld | you could also just look at horizon | 01:53 |
larsks | asalkeld: the horizon ui seemed kind of ridiculous (look, it spins!), didn't seem to have all that much information, and did not appear to recurse into nested stacks. | 01:54 |
asalkeld | yeah, tho' it should be capable of doing that | 01:55 |
larsks | oh, totally :) | 01:55 |
larsks | If someone were to switch out that elastic-graph-widget thing for something less bouncy and more informative that would be awesome. | 01:55 |
larsks | I particularly wanted to render images offline so that they could be included in documentation. | 01:56 |
asalkeld | larsks, there is some work underway | 01:56 |
larsks | That is awesome. | 01:56 |
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asalkeld | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042128.html | 01:56 |
asalkeld | larsks, ^ | 01:56 |
larsks | asalkeld: Thanks, that looks interesting. | 01:57 |
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asalkeld | np | 01:58 |
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stevebaker | larsks: I've wondered if heatclient should have an option to generate dot output | 02:18 |
larsks | stevebaker: I was almost sure it did when I started out earlier today :) | 02:19 |
larsks | I thought, "*surely* this already exists"... | 02:19 |
stevebaker | if only | 02:19 |
stevebaker | I've thought about it, does that count? | 02:19 |
asalkeld | ASCII art | 02:20 |
asalkeld | ;) | 02:20 |
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larsks | asalkeld: I am startled that 'dot' doesn't appear to offer ascii output as an option... | 02:21 |
asalkeld | http://search.cpan.org/~tels/Graph-Easy/ | 02:21 |
asalkeld | http://search.cpan.org/~tels/Graph-Easy/lib/Graph/Easy/As_ascii.pm | 02:22 |
stevebaker | ahh, cpan | 02:22 |
asalkeld | instantly feel better:-O | 02:22 |
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larsks | asalkeld: ooo, pretty: http://chunk.io/f/90be43a9856243368d979bacb6d1df64 | 02:24 |
larsks | asalkeld: Thanks, now my day is complete. | 02:24 |
asalkeld | wowzer | 02:24 |
asalkeld | :-) | 02:24 |
larsks | That is almost a nicer layout than graphviz, actually. | 02:25 |
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huangtianhua | stevebaker, asalkeld : hi, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105647/, would you please to review it, this bp'spec has been merged, and tomorrow is ff, tks:) | 02:54 |
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asalkeld | huangtianhua, done | 03:02 |
asalkeld | brb: nipping out to the post shop | 03:03 |
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huangtianhua | asalkeld: tks:) | 03:29 |
stevebaker | huangtianhua: done, also targetted the blueprint to j-3 | 03:30 |
openstackgerrit | Hongbin Lu proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix a wrong argument name at Heat keystoneclient plugin https://review.openstack.org/107830 | 03:30 |
huangtianhua | stevebaker: thanks very much:) | 03:32 |
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stevebaker | asalkeld: any chance of a review of this series? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115444/ | 05:03 |
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asalkeld | okie dokie | 05:17 |
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openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/116796 | 06:00 |
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pas-ha | morning all | 06:26 |
asalkeld | hi pas-ha | 06:26 |
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asalkeld | shardy_afk, let me know when you are in | 06:52 |
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cmyster | morning btw | 06:57 |
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skraynev | MOrning | 07:13 |
skraynev | hi pas-ha, asalkeld | 07:13 |
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asalkeld | yo | 07:13 |
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skraynev | asalkeld: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109333/12. I tend agree with your and Steve's opinions. But when I see raise with message which will be thrown I want to remove this message at all and just leave raise. | 07:16 |
skraynev | asalkeld: I think that such messages are useful for users and we should create some way to show it. | 07:17 |
asalkeld | skraynev logging is not the way, but i think in the meetup people wanted to use zaqr | 07:18 |
asalkeld | (was marconi) | 07:18 |
asalkeld | so users can get messages | 07:18 |
openstackgerrit | Anant Patil proposed a change to openstack/heat: Save files while updating a template. https://review.openstack.org/114924 | 07:19 |
skraynev | asalkeld: agree about logging, it was just easiest way. | 07:19 |
asalkeld | yeah, only if the user == operator | 07:19 |
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openstackgerrit | unmesh-gurjar proposed a change to openstack/heat: Database models and apis for convergence https://review.openstack.org/109012 | 07:20 |
skraynev | asalkeld: yeah. could you tell more about this idea (using zaqar)? it will become required part instead of contrib resource? and is it one of aims for Kilo? | 07:22 |
asalkeld | skraynev honestly not sure, we haven't gotten a lot back from the meetup | 07:22 |
asalkeld | i don't want to tell you something that's not totally true | 07:23 |
* skraynev sighs | 07:23 | |
asalkeld | I am hoping we will get some more info | 07:23 |
asalkeld | mid term meetups not so nice for people that dont' go:( | 07:23 |
skraynev | totally agree :( | 07:24 |
skraynev | something happens... but you do not know about it :) | 07:24 |
asalkeld | yeah | 07:24 |
skraynev | ok, will try to ask zaneb about it at today meeting | 07:25 |
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shardy | morning all | 07:29 |
asalkeld | there he is | 07:30 |
skraynev | morning:) | 07:30 |
asalkeld | shardy, I haven't reposted anything as some were approved | 07:30 |
asalkeld | but i have rewritten half of test_autoscale.py | 07:30 |
asalkeld | (into actual unit tests) | 07:31 |
shardy | asalkeld: awesome, thanks! | 07:31 |
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asalkeld | shardy, but not all problems solved | 07:31 |
shardy | That sounds like the way to go, I was headed towards stubbing the create|update_with_template and just proving the template generation works | 07:31 |
asalkeld | yeah do that | 07:31 |
asalkeld | shardy, maybe I can push to github for a while? | 07:32 |
shardy | asalkeld: cool, well thanks for spending time on it, I appreciate it! :) | 07:32 |
asalkeld | i am not sure what happens to approved reviews | 07:32 |
shardy | asalkeld: Sure, then I can rebase and re-post later | 07:32 |
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shardy | asalkeld: Yeah, if you've rebased the series then posting the lot again will remove the +A on the approved ones AFAIK | 07:33 |
openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement AWS::EC2::EIPAssociation updatable https://review.openstack.org/118562 | 07:33 |
shardy | If the branch hasn't been rebased it's a no-op (I think), but not sure if that's still the case if someone else pushes | 07:33 |
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asalkeld | shardy, https://github.com/asalkeld/heat/commits/decouple-nested | 07:35 |
openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/105166 | 07:35 |
asalkeld | i like this one: https://github.com/asalkeld/heat/commit/d7720872c1365f7b0f38e463a94a7910a2e9ff86 | 07:35 |
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asalkeld | ok brb: kids getting hungry | 07:36 |
shardy | asalkeld: Ha, yeah that is neat! :) | 07:36 |
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shardy | better than my _stub_create_template approach | 07:36 |
asalkeld | shardy, that's needed | 07:37 |
asalkeld | for basic ops | 07:37 |
asalkeld | create/update/delete | 07:37 |
shardy | Yeah, but for just proving the template generator the scenario approach looks cleaner | 07:37 |
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shardy | asalkeld: Thanks for this, looks like good progress, I owe you some beers in Paris! :) | 07:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Winnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for reset parameters https://review.openstack.org/109465 | 07:44 |
openstackgerrit | Winnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for patching parameters https://review.openstack.org/109105 | 07:44 |
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asalkeld | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/46486/heat-create-failed-bad-network-format-missing-uuid-http-400/ | 08:12 |
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shardy | asalkeld: They need to specify a port and pass that to the instance don't they? | 08:19 |
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asalkeld | brain fried :-( | 08:20 |
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shardy | "This post is awaiting moderation" | 08:20 |
shardy | by who? | 08:20 |
asalkeld | that qu. is also on the user ml | 08:21 |
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shardy | skraynev: Hey, re bug #1364463, can you clarify is this a backwards incompatible change to the keystone API? | 08:59 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1364463 in keystone "Incorrect key in endpoint dictionary" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1364463 | 08:59 |
shardy | From the description, it sounds like it is? | 08:59 |
shardy | Their docs say "endpoint" has been deprecated in favor of "endpoint_id", but that shouldn't mean they just remove it between releases IMO | 09:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Rakesh H S proposed a change to openstack/heat: fixes stack deletion failure, when vol in deleting https://review.openstack.org/118374 | 09:07 |
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shardy | If any heat-cores have time, there are a couple of remaining patches for the deployment-multiple-servers BP which need +2/+A for us to land them in J3: | 09:38 |
shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/deployment-multiple-servers,n,z | 09:38 |
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openstackgerrit | Adrian Vladu proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: HOT for Windows Active Directory Controller https://review.openstack.org/118472 | 10:43 |
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skraynev | shardy: I am here. lunchtime was + local meeting then :) | 11:10 |
skraynev | shrady: I just reproduce got outputs of endpoints when reproduce it and these dicts did not include 'region' at all, only region_id. | 11:11 |
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skraynev | shardy: I may try describe step by step what I did for this problem. Unfortunately it may be huge (and requires local heat). | 11:13 |
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skraynev | shardy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1364463/comments/5 | 11:21 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1364463 in keystone "Incorrect key in endpoint dictionary" [Undecided,New] | 11:21 |
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unmeshg | Hi, I would like to get a consensus regarding column name nova_instance | 11:28 |
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unmeshg | There is a change specifically addressing this (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110557/) | 11:28 |
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unmeshg | so, should a new db table name the column as 'physical_resource_id' or 'nova_instance' ? | 11:32 |
unmeshg | to be specific, here is my review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109012/ | 11:34 |
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asalkeld | unmeshg, seems like a cosmetic change really | 11:40 |
asalkeld | and potentially effecting upgrades | 11:41 |
asalkeld | we *really* need to plan how we are going to tell users to upgrade to minimise downtime | 11:41 |
asalkeld | I think we need a summit session on how to achieve this | 11:42 |
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unmeshg | @asalkeld: so, you mean the name nova_instance is ok to go with for now? | 11:43 |
asalkeld | unmeshg, it's has worked fine up until now | 11:44 |
asalkeld | it's mildly irratating | 11:44 |
asalkeld | but until we have a better thought out upgrade system in place, less schema changes the better | 11:45 |
unmeshg | yes, I agree | 11:45 |
asalkeld | unmeshg, what is the state of convergence? | 11:46 |
asalkeld | where can people help? | 11:46 |
asalkeld | where is the current design | 11:47 |
unmeshg | we are working on the observer changes | 11:47 |
asalkeld | for the simplist case we need to know more details to do reviews | 11:47 |
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asalkeld | unmeshg, "we"? | 11:48 |
unmeshg | sirushti and myself | 11:48 |
asalkeld | ok | 11:48 |
openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enable SoftwareDeployment for SoftwareComponent https://review.openstack.org/112954 | 11:49 |
openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enhance SoftwareComponent property validation https://review.openstack.org/113259 | 11:49 |
openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS::Heat::SoftwareComponent resource https://review.openstack.org/112952 | 11:49 |
openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Validate SoftwareDeployment with SoftwareComponent https://review.openstack.org/113260 | 11:49 |
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unmeshg | we have a couple of reviews on which we need feedback | 11:49 |
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asalkeld | unmeshg, i'd love to help - but don't really know the design | 11:50 |
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unmeshg | did you get a chance to look at the etherpad of mid-cycle meet up ? | 11:51 |
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asalkeld | unmeshg, it was probably ok if you were there | 11:53 |
asalkeld | (i have read it, but had no context) | 11:53 |
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unmeshg | agreed | 11:54 |
unmeshg | for Juno, our plan is to cover the convergence-observer part | 11:55 |
unmeshg | with a flag to disable it by default | 11:56 |
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unmeshg | we will be uploading the sequence diagrams for the entire convergence implementation (targeted: Kilo) soon | 11:57 |
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asalkeld | nice | 11:58 |
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asalkeld | do we have a meeting soon? | 12:01 |
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skraynev | I suppose we wait zaneb ;) | 12:01 |
KanagarajM | do we have a wiki for today's meeting agenda? | 12:03 |
ryansb | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282014-09-03_1200_UTC.29 | 12:03 |
ryansb | KanagarajM: ^ | 12:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement CFN CancelUpdateStack action https://review.openstack.org/102852 | 12:11 |
openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add RPC API for cancel update stack https://review.openstack.org/102851 | 12:11 |
openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Heat REST API action for cancel update stack https://review.openstack.org/116911 | 12:11 |
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inc0 | hello | 12:27 |
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pas-ha | inc0, hi | 12:33 |
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shardy | skraynev: hi | 12:37 |
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asalkeld | night all | 12:38 |
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skraynev | shardy: hi. | 12:39 |
skraynev | asalkeld: night | 12:39 |
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skraynev | shardy: want clarify: what approach better: propagate version (date) from template class to constraint through init methods all it should be some separate class which store information about currently used version (version id, supported resources and functions)? | 12:41 |
mspreitz | The supported resources are a function of configuration, among other things | 12:43 |
shardy | mspreitz: no we're discussing template validation for different HOT versions | 12:43 |
shardy | ref https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116615 | 12:44 |
skraynev | I just try to think about better way to implement it. (the easiest way IMO to add attribute version in constraint class) | 12:45 |
mspreitz | Regarding the suggestion "separate class which store information about currently used version (version id, supported resources and functions)?)" | 12:45 |
skraynev | and init method | 12:45 |
mspreitz | ... I am doubting supported resources goes together with version | 12:45 |
shardy | mspreitz: they don't, but functions do | 12:46 |
skraynev | mspreitz: it's just related idea. Alternative is to create some abstract class with all this information | 12:46 |
mspreitz | shardy: yes, I agree | 12:46 |
shardy | skraynev: I'd probably subclass Replace and set the class appropriately in the function_mapping for each version | 12:46 |
mspreitz | regarding supported resources: it's complicated | 12:46 |
shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/hot/functions.py#L280 | 12:47 |
shardy | skraynev: would that work? | 12:47 |
shardy | I've not looked into it until like 10 seconds ago tbh ;) | 12:48 |
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shardy | skraynev: wait, I'm thinking of a completely different patch! | 12:49 |
shardy | sorry | 12:49 |
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skraynev | lol.. head shot... | 12:50 |
skraynev | shrdy: I think where is trick ;) | 12:51 |
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skraynev | shardy: ^ | 12:51 |
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skraynev | shardy: as I understand the solution just to add additional parameter in constraint class and pass it during initialization. | 12:52 |
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shardy | skraynev: and pass the version into HOTParamSchema? | 12:55 |
shardy | That sounds reasonable, but I guess we need to be careful we don't end up with a mess if conditionals everywhere, if the new HOT version has significant differences | 12:55 |
shardy | atm it doesn't seem like that will be a problem | 12:55 |
skraynev | shardy: yes | 12:57 |
skraynev | ok, I will try to do it more small | 12:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Encrypt Heat template hidden parameters https://review.openstack.org/97900 | 14:06 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Implement AWS::EC2::EIP updatable https://review.openstack.org/117935 | 14:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat: AZ spanning for OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup https://review.openstack.org/117987 | 15:15 |
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openstackgerrit | Mike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat: AZ spanning for OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup https://review.openstack.org/117987 | 15:19 |
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blinky_ghost | sdake: Hi, are you there? Did you had the chance to test Centos7 image with DIB elements? | 15:23 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Fix and improve autoscaling.yaml https://review.openstack.org/116490 | 15:30 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Add example of using native waitcondition resources https://review.openstack.org/106424 | 15:31 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-specs: Reorg AutoScalingGroup code https://review.openstack.org/113242 | 15:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement CFN CancelUpdateStack action https://review.openstack.org/102852 | 16:07 |
openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add RPC API for cancel update stack https://review.openstack.org/102851 | 16:07 |
openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Heat REST API action for cancel update stack https://review.openstack.org/116911 | 16:07 |
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wirehead_ | So, Shardy, I fully intend to find some excuses to spend a few days in the UK before or after OpenStack. | 16:09 |
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wirehead_ | So as to maximally enjoy Real Ale. :P | 16:09 |
shardy | wirehead_: ha, good plan :) | 16:09 |
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jpeeler | does "cherry pick to" with branch master essentially rebase the change? | 16:12 |
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ryansb | pretty much | 16:15 |
ryansb | (as long as you cherry pick all the commits from the change) | 16:15 |
jpeeler | to be clear, i'm talking about the gerrit button | 16:16 |
ryansb | Ah. Well I'm not qualified to answer that question. | 16:16 |
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sjmc7 | hi all. i'm consistently getting 500 errors in os-collect-config when signalling to heat. the only log message i see is in the engine logs indicating a 401 "The request you have made requires authentication" | 16:23 |
sjmc7 | any clues where i should start looking? | 16:23 |
shardy | sjmc7: not related to bug #1341936 ? | 16:26 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1341936 in os-collect-config "Require keystone v3 auth_url in heat collector" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1341936 | 16:26 |
sjmc7 | i don't think so, shardy. i get "WARNING os_collect_config.heat [-] No auth_url configured", but i'm using CFN signalling | 16:27 |
shardy | sjmc7: ah, that was going to be my next question, heat or CFN signalling | 16:28 |
shardy | can you paste the backtrace from the heat-api-cfn denying the request somewhere please? | 16:29 |
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sjmc7 | well, that's the weird thing - i'm having trouble finding any evidence in the api-cfn logs it DID deny it | 16:29 |
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shardy | sjmc7: weird - you should be able to take the pre-signed URL when using CFN signalling and just use curl to hit the API and see an error each time it get's denied (or non-error logging if it works) | 16:31 |
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shardy | sjmc7: you say 500 errors - you're getting that response from heat? | 16:32 |
sjmc7 | os-collect-config is getting 500 | 16:32 |
sjmc7 | heat-engine shows 401 | 16:32 |
sjmc7 | trying to find the missing api-cfn log | 16:32 |
shardy | Oh, can you paste the engine log related to the 401 please? | 16:33 |
shardy | If the request gets to the engine then the API is not denying the request | 16:33 |
shardy | the 500 may just be an exception incorrectly mapped in the faultwrap middleware | 16:34 |
sjmc7 | shardy - http://paste.openstack.org/show/105296/ | 16:34 |
sjmc7 | huh. yeah, you're right. that is strange | 16:35 |
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shardy | It's failing passing the signal on to the software deployment, I think stevebaker fixed a bug similar to this recently, sec | 16:36 |
sjmc7 | ok, thanks. i know there were some issues around updates that zane fixed but they were different | 16:36 |
shardy | sjmc7: You're not signalling a deployment resource in one stack from a server in another are yoU? | 16:39 |
shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117058/ | 16:39 |
sjmc7 | nope. single server stack | 16:39 |
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sjmc7 | shardy - if i hit the signal URL after it's failed through os-collect-config, i get a 403 | 16:53 |
sjmc7 | though i'm still not seeing anything in the heat-api-cfn logs. i'll check the config | 16:54 |
sjmc7 | hmm.. though if i re-run heat-config, i get the 500 error | 17:01 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeff Peeler proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.tests https://review.openstack.org/109514 | 17:03 |
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sjmc7 | shardy - how long are the aws-style auth attributes valid for? | 17:04 |
sjmc7 | you're right, it's weird it's getting through to the engine and failing there | 17:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeff Peeler proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.api https://review.openstack.org/109487 | 17:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeff Peeler proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.common https://review.openstack.org/109506 | 17:07 |
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sjmc7 | ahhh.. shardy, it may be related to that bug - the debug log from heat-engine: http://paste.openstack.org/show/105310/ | 17:15 |
sjmc7 | 2014-09-03 17:11:06.785 24945 TRACE heat.engine.resource self._client = self._v3_client_init() | 17:15 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Implements stack lifecycle plugpoints https://review.openstack.org/89363 | 17:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Ton Ngo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass list of parameters to engine service to reset https://review.openstack.org/109284 | 17:51 |
openstackgerrit | Ton Ngo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass flag to engine service to patch parameters https://review.openstack.org/109042 | 17:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Sarvesh Ranjan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Spelling mistakes fixed in comments. https://review.openstack.org/118711 | 18:13 |
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sdake | blinky_ghost yes I did, it does not work | 18:33 |
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blinky_ghost | sdake: Ok, I'll wait then, I'm following this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/1363146 | 18:34 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1363146 in diskimage-builder "Cannot create Centos7 image with DIB software elements config" [Low,In progress] | 18:34 |
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sjmc7 | shardy - if you're still there, it looks like we're not configuring stack_domain_admin or stack_domain_admin_password in heat | 18:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Template not required on stack-adopt https://review.openstack.org/111844 | 19:03 |
openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Include parameters info in stack-abandon data https://review.openstack.org/111843 | 19:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor nested stack create/update/preview https://review.openstack.org/114673 | 19:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Template is not required on stack-adopt https://review.openstack.org/112044 | 20:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Encrypt Heat template hidden parameters https://review.openstack.org/97900 | 20:08 |
openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Encrypt Heat template hidden parameters https://review.openstack.org/97900 | 20:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/heat: warn against sorting requirements https://review.openstack.org/118761 | 20:21 |
openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: warn against sorting requirements https://review.openstack.org/118763 | 20:24 |
openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/heat: warn against sorting requirements https://review.openstack.org/118761 | 20:24 |
jdandrea | Semantics question: Does the depends_on resource attribute create a dependency upon the successful creation of a resource, or upon the resource creation being kicked off? | 20:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/heat: warn against sorting requirements https://review.openstack.org/118761 | 20:29 |
openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: warn against sorting requirements https://review.openstack.org/118763 | 20:29 |
shardy | jdandrea: it creates a dependency when we parse the template and create the graph, e.g before anything is created | 20:30 |
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jdandrea | shardy: So far, so good! Now, how is the dependency satisfied? Let's say Cinder::Volume A depends upon Cinder::Volume B. Does that mean A can't exist until B exists? Or ... does that mean A can't exist until a request to create B has been made? | 20:31 |
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shardy | sjmc7: sorry been afk for a while, just looking at your pastes | 20:33 |
sjmc7 | shardy - i think i got to the bottom of it | 20:34 |
sjmc7 | we're not configuring the stack_domain stuff | 20:34 |
shardy | sjmc7: Aha, cool - in theory that is optional, but it will require you to be admin when creating the stack | 20:35 |
sjmc7 | yeah, which won't work for us | 20:35 |
sjmc7 | i've spoken to clint; the triple-o changes for that aren't emrged yet | 20:35 |
shardy | sjmc7: :( We started talking about getting the domain updates into heat many months ago | 20:36 |
shardy | I didn't realize it still hadn't happened | 20:36 |
sjmc7 | yeah.. i've been working in devstack so long i hadn't considered it | 20:36 |
shardy | jdandrea: it depends on how the resource is implemented, but resource B can't start getting created until resource A is in CREATE_COMPLETE state | 20:38 |
sjmc7 | shardy - thankyou for your very easy to follow blog posts on this subject :) | 20:38 |
shardy | mostly that means the underlying resource is created, but not necessarily fully active, e.g nova server is ACTIVE but probably still booting | 20:39 |
shardy | sjmc7: np, I'm probably overdue a few more, just never seem to have the time lately ;) | 20:39 |
jdandrea | shardy: Understood, and good news! Thanks. :) | 20:39 |
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shardy | jdandrea: btw, you never need to use depends_on unless there is some relationship between resources where they don't reference each other via e.g get_resource or get_attr | 20:41 |
shardy | In most cases, heat will add the necessary dependencies for you impliclty, based on the resource interaction inside the template definition | 20:42 |
sjmc7 | shardy - with the domain stuff in place, everything works as planned. thanks so much for the help and blog posts | 20:43 |
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stevebaker | morning | 20:59 |
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asalkeld | morning | 21:35 |
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asalkeld | shardy, hows your patches going? | 21:40 |
asalkeld | need some more help? | 21:40 |
openstackgerrit | Winnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for reset parameters https://review.openstack.org/109465 | 21:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add nested_depth to internal _create_stack RPC interface https://review.openstack.org/115732 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add nested_depth column to stack table https://review.openstack.org/115730 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: engine service add nested_depth to create_stack https://review.openstack.org/115731 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: engine service add stack_user_project_id to create_stack interface https://review.openstack.org/118136 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add user_creds_id to _create_stack RPC interface https://review.openstack.org/116335 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add stack_user_project_id to _create_stack RPC interface https://review.openstack.org/118137 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: engine service add user_creds_id to create_stack interface https://review.openstack.org/116334 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: StackResource add show_deleted option to nested() accessor method https://review.openstack.org/116333 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: StackResource add force_reload to nested() accessor method https://review.openstack.org/116332 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move TestInstanceGroup to test_instance_group.py https://review.openstack.org/118906 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Unit test autoscaling._calculate_new_capacity https://review.openstack.org/118907 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move some AutoScalingGroup validation tests to a separate file https://review.openstack.org/118908 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Convert the autoscaling policy tests into unit tests https://review.openstack.org/118909 | 21:51 |
openstackgerrit | Sarvesh Ranjan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Spelling and grammatical mistakes fixed in comments. https://review.openstack.org/118711 | 21:52 |
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stevebaker | cores, we've been asked not to approve things to give the gate queue a chance to drain | 21:56 |
shardy | stevebaker: I'll WIP the top of that series, just posted as asalkeld and I have been collaborating on the test rework | 21:57 |
stevebaker | shardy: ok, thanks | 21:57 |
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stevebaker | larsks: hey, are you about? | 22:03 |
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openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Import oslo.i18n and port heat bins to use oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/108924 | 22:08 |
openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Switch heat api to oslo i18n https://review.openstack.org/109479 | 22:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OSprofiler integration into Heat https://review.openstack.org/118115 | 22:29 |
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larsks | stevebaker: briefly :) what's up? | 23:12 |
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stevebaker | larsks: I'm playing around with building a docker image for a standalone heat appliance, and have been looking at your images. | 23:13 |
larsks | Okay. NB, they seem to work, but have barely been tested :) | 23:13 |
stevebaker | larsks: am pondering all-in-one image or wiring together mysql+rabbitmq+heat images. What do you do to orchestrate your containers? | 23:14 |
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stevebaker | larsks: do you use a mysql container or just a system mysql? | 23:14 |
larsks | stevebaker: I was playing around with ansible. I use a mysql container. You can see my ansible playbook here: | 23:15 |
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larsks | https://github.com/larsks/openstack-containers | 23:15 |
stevebaker | larsks: ah, perfect. thanks | 23:15 |
larsks | I started looking at fig but I would have to rework how I handle configuration (with fig it's not possible to run the sort of one-off scripts that I'm using in the ansible playbook) | 23:16 |
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larsks | In your place...I would build a standalone heat container that could work with either a mysql container *or* a system mysql. It shouldn't matter. This might make it easy for people to try out heat from master without disturbing an existing openstack deployment on the same hardware. | 23:18 |
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stevebaker | yeah | 23:18 |
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dsampath | quick noob q on the autoscaling api/service - which heat module will maintain the state of all the services that are dynamically being brought up and down? | 23:24 |
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stevebaker | dsampath: we don't really have an autoscaling api/service. The autoscaling is implemented in the heat resources themselves. Also, what do you mean by "maintain the state of all the services"? | 23:26 |
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dsampath | Oh I think that sort of answers the question - what I meant was, if I create an autoscaling group in heat that has a bunch of loadbalancers, will heat track the number of lbs, their ips, etc | 23:29 |
stevebaker | dsampath: heat tracks them as nested stacks, with their respective resources | 23:31 |
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tango | Hmm, one of my patch failed a tempest test in check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full, but the other one passed: | 23:38 |
tango | tempest.scenario.test_network_advanced_server_ops.TestNetworkAdvancedServerOps.test_server_connectivity_resize [346.004786s] ... FAILED | 23:38 |
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tango | Could this be an intermittent error? | 23:38 |
asalkeld | tango, could be | 23:39 |
asalkeld | try search for it | 23:39 |
stevebaker | tango: likely yes. compare the logs with what is in http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/ | 23:39 |
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asalkeld | Bug 1297560 - *tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow fails with WaitConditionTimeout | 23:41 |
asalkeld | 1 fails in 24hrs / 11 fails in 10 days | 23:41 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1297560 in tempest "*tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow fails with WaitConditionTimeout" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297560 | 23:41 |
asalkeld | quiet a few hits ^ | 23:41 |
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stevebaker | unfortunately anything in the stack could cause that | 23:43 |
openstackgerrit | Ziad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update api docstrings to match guidelines https://review.openstack.org/73515 | 23:44 |
tango | Murphy's Law, when you are in a hurry ... | 23:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Ziad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update api docstrings to match guidelines https://review.openstack.org/73515 | 23:50 |
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