Wednesday, 2014-09-03

asalkeldit just means the user *must* provide the full registry00:00
asalkeldyou are also one of the many people changing the rpc api :-(00:01
tangoasalkeld: Right, the registry is specified the same way as it is done now00:02
asalkeldok, but it is a PATCH00:02
tangoasalkeld: Hmm, I don't think the RPC api is changed00:02
asalkeldand is behaving like a mixture of update and patch00:02
tangoasalkeld: The ReST API is implemented as a PATCH00:03
tangoasalkeld: So the api change is a a new PATCH for stack-update00:04
tangoasalkeld: there should be no change to the existing ones00:04
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stevebakertango: I don't see any rpc api changes. The only other rpc changes I've seen have been adding optional arguments, which is fine as long as engine is upgraded before API00:16
asalkeldstevebaker, exactly: do we tell users this?00:17
stevebakerasalkeld: release notes would be the appropriate place for that00:18
asalkeldand we should really support both forms of upgrade api first or engine first00:18
lifelessasalkeld: +10000000:18
lifelessany arbitrary order please00:18
asalkeldwe keep adding options to the rpc00:18
lifelessconsider three engines and three apis, each in a pair, over three machines00:18
asalkeldand not doing any versioning00:18
lifelessif we upgrade one machine00:19
lifelesswe'll have mixed engine and apis00:19
asalkeldlifeless, what about the db?00:19
asalkeldschema change00:19
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asalkeldhows the old engines going to talk to the new db00:19
asalkeldnova object here we come00:20
lifelessasalkeld: You can either say 'don't upgrade the db until all engines are upgraded', and make sure the new code works with old db00:20
lifelessor say 'upgrade the db first' and make sure old code works with new db00:20
lifelessthis is a fairly standard pattern00:20
asalkeldlifeless, with convergence this is going to get more difficult: more moving pieces and api00:21
asalkeldwe are hopeless at this atm00:22
lifelessatm I thought only engine talked to db00:22
lifelessthats actually a pretty good place to be00:22
asalkeldyip00:22
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lifelessso say you add a column00:22
lifelessyou add it with a default rather than a required value00:23
lifelessand you calculate the value just-in-time if its missing00:23
lifelessthat sort of thing00:23
lifelessthen you do the db migration before upgrading the engine or api anywhere00:23
lifelessif there's contractions required, do those after the entire environment is upgraded00:24
lifeless(dropping columns, tables etc)00:24
asalkeldbut then we need 2 forms of schema change00:24
asalkeldno one in openstack has this00:24
lifelesswe've had sessions on doing exactly this for the last three summits00:24
asalkeldheat-db-mange dbsync-stepone00:24
asalkeldheat-db-mange dbsync-final00:25
asalkeldthis needs to be a requirement before we do convergence00:25
lifelessI don't understand how convergence makes this worse00:26
lifelessit certainly will be hard to get all the uptime benefits without this for multi-engine sites00:26
asalkeldlifeless, just more daemons with api that we need to make sure we are versioning correctly00:26
asalkeldwe are not atm00:26
asalkeldwe need to have a plan for upgrading00:27
stevebakercolumn renames may not ever be practical now though http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/db/sqlalchemy/models.py#n23500:28
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asalkeldstevebaker, I hope we can have system where we can00:30
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asalkeldwe just need 1: a plan, 2: tests to back it up00:31
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huangtianhuastevebaker: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117938/ already modify the pep8 nit, would you have a look01:10
stevebakerhuangtianhua: sorry, my actual comment was in Draft. Posted now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117938/4/heat/engine/resources/eip.py01:11
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huangtianhuastevebaker: ok, will change, tks01:12
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add validate function for AWS::EC2::EIPAssociation  https://review.openstack.org/11793801:19
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Modify the way to get 'network_id' of the port  https://review.openstack.org/11796101:19
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix delete failed because association creation failed  https://review.openstack.org/11796201:20
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor functions in eip.py  https://review.openstack.org/11797001:20
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement BlockDeviceMappings for LaunchConfiguration  https://review.openstack.org/10564701:26
stevebakerasalkeld: do you also have time to look at the oslo.i18 series? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108924/1601:29
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asalkeldstevebaker, done as much as possible01:34
asalkeldbunch of jenkins -101:34
stevebakeroh, might have to defer for that01:35
stevebakerwill put it in rc-1 for now01:36
asalkeldi wonder how many patches go in the last 24hrs01:39
stevebakergate queue is 13 hours :O01:39
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larsksI wrote a quick hack for visualizing heat stacks with graphviz: http://blog.oddbit.com/2014/09/02/visualizing-heat-stacks/01:50
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asalkeldnice larsks01:52
asalkeldyou could also just look at horizon01:53
larsksasalkeld: the horizon ui seemed kind of ridiculous (look, it spins!), didn't seem to have all that much information, and did not appear to recurse into nested stacks.01:54
asalkeldyeah, tho' it should be capable of doing that01:55
larsksoh, totally :)01:55
larsksIf someone were to switch out that elastic-graph-widget thing for something less bouncy and more informative that would be awesome.01:55
larsksI particularly wanted to render images offline so that they could be included in documentation.01:56
asalkeldlarsks, there is some work underway01:56
larsksThat is awesome.01:56
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asalkeldhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042128.html01:56
asalkeldlarsks, ^01:56
larsksasalkeld: Thanks, that looks interesting.01:57
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asalkeldnp01:58
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stevebakerlarsks: I've wondered if heatclient should have an option to generate dot output02:18
larsksstevebaker: I was almost sure it did when I started out earlier today :)02:19
larsksI thought, "*surely* this already exists"...02:19
stevebakerif only02:19
stevebakerI've thought about it, does that count?02:19
asalkeldASCII art02:20
asalkeld;)02:20
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larsksasalkeld: I am startled that 'dot' doesn't appear to offer ascii output as an option...02:21
asalkeldhttp://search.cpan.org/~tels/Graph-Easy/02:21
asalkeldhttp://search.cpan.org/~tels/Graph-Easy/lib/Graph/Easy/As_ascii.pm02:22
stevebakerahh, cpan02:22
asalkeldinstantly feel better:-O02:22
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larsksasalkeld: ooo, pretty: http://chunk.io/f/90be43a9856243368d979bacb6d1df6402:24
larsksasalkeld: Thanks, now my day is complete.02:24
asalkeldwowzer02:24
asalkeld:-)02:24
larsksThat is almost a nicer layout than graphviz, actually.02:25
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huangtianhuastevebaker, asalkeld : hi, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105647/, would you please to review it, this bp'spec has been merged, and tomorrow is ff, tks:)02:54
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asalkeldhuangtianhua, done03:02
asalkeldbrb: nipping out to the post shop03:03
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huangtianhuaasalkeld: tks:)03:29
stevebakerhuangtianhua: done, also targetted the blueprint to j-303:30
openstackgerritHongbin Lu proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix a wrong argument name at Heat keystoneclient plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10783003:30
huangtianhuastevebaker: thanks very much:)03:32
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stevebakerasalkeld: any chance of a review of this series? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115444/05:03
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asalkeldokie dokie05:17
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/11679606:00
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pas-hamorning all06:26
asalkeldhi pas-ha06:26
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asalkeldshardy_afk, let me know when you are in06:52
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cmystermorning btw06:57
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skraynevMOrning07:13
skraynevhi pas-ha, asalkeld07:13
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asalkeldyo07:13
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skraynevasalkeld: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109333/12. I tend agree with your and Steve's opinions. But when I see raise with message which will be thrown I want to remove this message at all and just leave raise.07:16
skraynevasalkeld: I think that such messages are useful for users and we should create some way to show it.07:17
asalkeldskraynev logging is not the way, but i think in the meetup people wanted to use zaqr07:18
asalkeld(was marconi)07:18
asalkeldso users can get messages07:18
openstackgerritAnant Patil proposed a change to openstack/heat: Save files while updating a template.  https://review.openstack.org/11492407:19
skraynevasalkeld: agree about logging, it was just easiest way.07:19
asalkeldyeah, only if the user == operator07:19
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openstackgerritunmesh-gurjar proposed a change to openstack/heat: Database models and apis for convergence  https://review.openstack.org/10901207:20
skraynevasalkeld: yeah. could you tell more about this idea (using zaqar)? it will become required part instead of contrib resource? and is it one of aims for Kilo?07:22
asalkeldskraynev honestly not sure, we haven't gotten a lot back from the meetup07:22
asalkeldi don't want to tell you something that's not totally true07:23
* skraynev sighs07:23
asalkeldI am hoping we will get some more info07:23
asalkeldmid term meetups not so nice for people that dont' go:(07:23
skraynevtotally agree :(07:24
skraynevsomething happens... but you do not know about it :)07:24
asalkeldyeah07:24
skraynevok, will try to ask zaneb about it at today meeting07:25
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shardymorning all07:29
asalkeldthere he is07:30
skraynevmorning:)07:30
asalkeldshardy, I haven't reposted anything as some were approved07:30
asalkeldbut i have rewritten half of test_autoscale.py07:30
asalkeld(into actual unit tests)07:31
shardyasalkeld: awesome, thanks!07:31
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asalkeldshardy, but not all problems solved07:31
shardyThat sounds like the way to go, I was headed towards stubbing the create|update_with_template and just proving the template generation works07:31
asalkeldyeah do that07:31
asalkeldshardy, maybe I can push to github for a while?07:32
shardyasalkeld: cool, well thanks for spending time on it, I appreciate it! :)07:32
asalkeldi am not sure what happens to approved reviews07:32
shardyasalkeld: Sure, then I can rebase and re-post later07:32
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shardyasalkeld: Yeah, if you've rebased the series then posting the lot again will remove the +A on the approved ones AFAIK07:33
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement AWS::EC2::EIPAssociation updatable  https://review.openstack.org/11856207:33
shardyIf the branch hasn't been rebased it's a no-op (I think), but not sure if that's still the case if someone else pushes07:33
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asalkeldshardy, https://github.com/asalkeld/heat/commits/decouple-nested07:35
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10516607:35
asalkeldi like this one: https://github.com/asalkeld/heat/commit/d7720872c1365f7b0f38e463a94a7910a2e9ff8607:35
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asalkeldok brb: kids getting hungry07:36
shardyasalkeld: Ha, yeah that is neat! :)07:36
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shardybetter than my _stub_create_template approach07:36
asalkeldshardy, that's needed07:37
asalkeldfor basic ops07:37
asalkeldcreate/update/delete07:37
shardyYeah, but for just proving the template generator the scenario approach looks cleaner07:37
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shardyasalkeld: Thanks for this, looks like good progress, I owe you some beers in Paris! :)07:38
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openstackgerritWinnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for reset parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10946507:44
openstackgerritWinnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for patching parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10910507:44
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asalkeldhttps://ask.openstack.org/en/question/46486/heat-create-failed-bad-network-format-missing-uuid-http-400/08:12
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shardyasalkeld: They need to specify a port and pass that to the instance don't they?08:19
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asalkeldbrain fried :-(08:20
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shardy"This post is awaiting moderation"08:20
shardyby who?08:20
asalkeldthat qu. is also on the user ml08:21
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shardyskraynev: Hey, re bug #1364463, can you clarify is this a backwards incompatible change to the keystone API?08:59
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1364463 in keystone "Incorrect key in endpoint dictionary" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136446308:59
shardyFrom the description, it sounds like it is?08:59
shardyTheir docs say "endpoint" has been deprecated in favor of "endpoint_id", but that shouldn't mean they just remove it between releases IMO09:00
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openstackgerritRakesh H S proposed a change to openstack/heat: fixes stack deletion failure, when vol in deleting  https://review.openstack.org/11837409:07
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shardyIf any heat-cores have time, there are a couple of remaining patches for the deployment-multiple-servers BP which need +2/+A for us to land them in J3:09:38
shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/deployment-multiple-servers,n,z09:38
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openstackgerritAdrian Vladu proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: HOT for Windows Active Directory Controller  https://review.openstack.org/11847210:43
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skraynevshardy: I am here. lunchtime was + local meeting then  :)11:10
skraynevshrady: I just reproduce got outputs of endpoints when reproduce it and these dicts did not include 'region' at all, only region_id.11:11
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skraynevshardy: I may try describe step by step what I did for this problem. Unfortunately it may be huge (and requires local heat).11:13
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skraynevshardy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1364463/comments/511:21
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1364463 in keystone "Incorrect key in endpoint dictionary" [Undecided,New]11:21
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unmeshgHi, I would like to get a consensus regarding column name nova_instance11:28
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unmeshgThere is a change specifically addressing this (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110557/)11:28
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unmeshgso, should a new db table name the column as 'physical_resource_id' or 'nova_instance' ?11:32
unmeshgto be specific, here is my review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109012/11:34
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asalkeldunmeshg, seems like a cosmetic change really11:40
asalkeldand potentially effecting upgrades11:41
asalkeldwe *really* need to plan how we are going to tell users to upgrade to minimise downtime11:41
asalkeldI think we need a summit session on how to achieve this11:42
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unmeshg@asalkeld: so, you mean the name nova_instance is ok to go with for now?11:43
asalkeldunmeshg, it's has worked fine up until now11:44
asalkeldit's mildly irratating11:44
asalkeldbut until we have a better thought out upgrade system in place, less schema changes the better11:45
unmeshgyes, I agree11:45
asalkeldunmeshg, what is the state of convergence?11:46
asalkeldwhere can people help?11:46
asalkeldwhere is the current design11:47
unmeshgwe are working on the observer changes11:47
asalkeldfor the simplist case we need to know more details to do reviews11:47
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asalkeldunmeshg, "we"?11:48
unmeshgsirushti and myself11:48
asalkeldok11:48
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enable SoftwareDeployment for SoftwareComponent  https://review.openstack.org/11295411:49
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enhance SoftwareComponent property validation  https://review.openstack.org/11325911:49
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS::Heat::SoftwareComponent resource  https://review.openstack.org/11295211:49
openstackgerritThomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Validate SoftwareDeployment with SoftwareComponent  https://review.openstack.org/11326011:49
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unmeshgwe have a couple of reviews on which we need feedback11:49
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asalkeldunmeshg, i'd love to help - but don't really know the design11:50
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unmeshgdid  you get a chance  to look at the etherpad of mid-cycle meet up ?11:51
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asalkeldunmeshg, it was probably ok if you were there11:53
asalkeld(i have read it, but had no context)11:53
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unmeshgagreed11:54
unmeshgfor Juno, our plan is to cover the convergence-observer part11:55
unmeshgwith a flag to disable it by default11:56
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unmeshgwe will be uploading the sequence diagrams for the entire convergence implementation (targeted: Kilo) soon11:57
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asalkeldnice11:58
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asalkelddo we have a meeting soon?12:01
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skraynevI suppose we wait zaneb ;)12:01
KanagarajMdo we have a wiki for today's meeting agenda?12:03
ryansbhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282014-09-03_1200_UTC.2912:03
ryansbKanagarajM: ^12:03
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement CFN CancelUpdateStack action  https://review.openstack.org/10285212:11
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add RPC API for cancel update stack  https://review.openstack.org/10285112:11
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Heat REST API action for cancel update stack  https://review.openstack.org/11691112:11
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inc0hello12:27
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pas-hainc0, hi12:33
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shardyskraynev: hi12:37
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asalkeldnight all12:38
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skraynevshardy: hi.12:39
skraynevasalkeld: night12:39
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skraynevshardy: want clarify: what approach better: propagate version (date) from template class to constraint through init methods all it should be some separate class which store information about currently used version (version id, supported resources and functions)?12:41
mspreitzThe supported resources are a function of configuration, among other things12:43
shardymspreitz: no we're discussing template validation for different HOT versions12:43
shardyref https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11661512:44
skraynevI just try to think about better way to implement it. (the easiest way IMO to add attribute version in constraint class)12:45
mspreitzRegarding the suggestion "separate class which store information about currently used version (version id, supported resources and functions)?)"12:45
skraynevand init method12:45
mspreitz... I am doubting supported resources goes together with version12:45
shardymspreitz: they don't, but functions do12:46
skraynevmspreitz: it's just related idea. Alternative is to create some abstract class with all this information12:46
mspreitzshardy: yes, I agree12:46
shardyskraynev: I'd probably subclass Replace and set the class appropriately in the function_mapping for each version12:46
mspreitzregarding supported resources: it's complicated12:46
shardyhttps://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/hot/functions.py#L28012:47
shardyskraynev: would that work?12:47
shardyI've not looked into it until like 10 seconds ago tbh ;)12:48
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shardyskraynev: wait, I'm thinking of a completely different patch!12:49
shardysorry12:49
* shardy needs more coffee12:50
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skraynevlol.. head shot...12:50
skraynevshrdy: I think where is trick ;)12:51
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skraynevshardy: ^12:51
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skraynevshardy: as I understand the solution just to add additional parameter in constraint class and pass it during initialization.12:52
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shardyskraynev: and pass the version into HOTParamSchema?12:55
shardyThat sounds reasonable, but I guess we need to be careful we don't end up with a mess if conditionals everywhere, if the new HOT version has significant differences12:55
shardyatm it doesn't seem like that will be a problem12:55
skraynevshardy: yes12:57
skraynevok, I will try to do it more small12:58
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openstackgerritVijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Encrypt Heat template hidden parameters  https://review.openstack.org/9790014:06
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Implement AWS::EC2::EIP updatable  https://review.openstack.org/11793514:12
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openstackgerritMike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat: AZ spanning for OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup  https://review.openstack.org/11798715:15
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openstackgerritMike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat: AZ spanning for OS::Heat::AutoScalingGroup  https://review.openstack.org/11798715:19
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blinky_ghostsdake: Hi, are you there? Did you had the chance to test Centos7 image with DIB elements?15:23
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Fix and improve autoscaling.yaml  https://review.openstack.org/11649015:30
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Add example of using native waitcondition resources  https://review.openstack.org/10642415:31
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-specs: Reorg AutoScalingGroup code  https://review.openstack.org/11324215:36
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement CFN CancelUpdateStack action  https://review.openstack.org/10285216:07
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add RPC API for cancel update stack  https://review.openstack.org/10285116:07
openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Heat REST API action for cancel update stack  https://review.openstack.org/11691116:07
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wirehead_So, Shardy, I fully intend to find some excuses to spend a few days in the UK before or after OpenStack.16:09
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wirehead_So as to maximally enjoy Real Ale. :P16:09
shardywirehead_: ha, good plan :)16:09
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jpeelerdoes "cherry pick to" with branch master essentially rebase the change?16:12
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ryansbpretty much16:15
ryansb(as long as you cherry pick all the commits from the change)16:15
jpeelerto be clear, i'm talking about the gerrit button16:16
ryansbAh. Well I'm not qualified to answer that question.16:16
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sjmc7hi all. i'm consistently getting 500 errors in os-collect-config when signalling to heat. the only log message i see is in the engine logs indicating a 401 "The request you have made requires authentication"16:23
sjmc7any clues where i should start looking?16:23
shardysjmc7: not related to bug #1341936 ?16:26
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1341936 in os-collect-config "Require keystone v3 auth_url in heat collector" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134193616:26
sjmc7i don't think so, shardy. i get "WARNING os_collect_config.heat [-] No auth_url configured", but i'm using CFN signalling16:27
shardysjmc7: ah, that was going to be my next question, heat or CFN signalling16:28
shardycan you paste the backtrace from the heat-api-cfn denying the request somewhere please?16:29
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sjmc7well, that's the weird thing - i'm having trouble finding any evidence in the api-cfn logs it DID deny it16:29
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shardysjmc7: weird - you should be able to take the pre-signed URL when using CFN signalling and just use curl to hit the API and see an error each time it get's denied (or non-error logging if it works)16:31
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shardysjmc7: you say 500 errors - you're getting that response from heat?16:32
sjmc7os-collect-config is getting 50016:32
sjmc7heat-engine shows 40116:32
sjmc7trying to find the missing api-cfn log16:32
shardyOh, can you paste the engine log related to the 401 please?16:33
shardyIf the request gets to the engine then the API is not denying the request16:33
shardythe 500 may just be an exception incorrectly mapped in the faultwrap middleware16:34
sjmc7shardy - http://paste.openstack.org/show/105296/16:34
sjmc7huh. yeah, you're right. that is strange16:35
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shardyIt's failing passing the signal on to the software deployment, I think stevebaker fixed a bug similar to this recently, sec16:36
sjmc7ok, thanks. i know there were some issues around updates that zane fixed but they were different16:36
shardysjmc7: You're not signalling a deployment resource in one stack from a server in another are yoU?16:39
shardyhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/117058/16:39
sjmc7nope. single server stack16:39
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sjmc7shardy - if i hit the signal URL after it's failed through os-collect-config, i get a 40316:53
sjmc7though i'm still not seeing anything in the heat-api-cfn logs. i'll check the config16:54
sjmc7hmm.. though if i re-run heat-config, i get the 500 error17:01
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openstackgerritJeff Peeler proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.tests  https://review.openstack.org/10951417:03
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sjmc7shardy - how long are the aws-style auth attributes valid for?17:04
sjmc7you're right, it's weird it's getting through to the engine and failing there17:04
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openstackgerritJeff Peeler proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.api  https://review.openstack.org/10948717:06
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openstackgerritJeff Peeler proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.common  https://review.openstack.org/10950617:07
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sjmc7ahhh.. shardy, it may be related to that bug - the debug log from heat-engine: http://paste.openstack.org/show/105310/17:15
sjmc72014-09-03 17:11:06.785 24945 TRACE heat.engine.resource     self._client = self._v3_client_init()17:15
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Implements stack lifecycle plugpoints  https://review.openstack.org/8936317:46
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openstackgerritTon Ngo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass list of parameters to engine service to reset  https://review.openstack.org/10928417:51
openstackgerritTon Ngo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Pass flag to engine service to patch parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10904217:51
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openstackgerritSarvesh Ranjan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Spelling mistakes fixed in comments.  https://review.openstack.org/11871118:13
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sdakeblinky_ghost yes I did, it does not work18:33
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blinky_ghostsdake: Ok, I'll wait then, I'm following this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/+bug/136314618:34
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1363146 in diskimage-builder "Cannot create Centos7 image with DIB software elements config" [Low,In progress]18:34
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sjmc7shardy - if you're still there, it looks like we're not configuring stack_domain_admin or stack_domain_admin_password in heat18:40
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openstackgerritVijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Template not required on stack-adopt  https://review.openstack.org/11184419:03
openstackgerritVijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Include parameters info in stack-abandon data  https://review.openstack.org/11184319:03
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openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor nested stack create/update/preview  https://review.openstack.org/11467319:06
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openstackgerritVijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Template is not required on stack-adopt  https://review.openstack.org/11204420:05
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openstackgerritVijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Encrypt Heat template hidden parameters  https://review.openstack.org/9790020:08
openstackgerritVijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Encrypt Heat template hidden parameters  https://review.openstack.org/9790020:10
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/heat: warn against sorting requirements  https://review.openstack.org/11876120:21
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: warn against sorting requirements  https://review.openstack.org/11876320:24
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/heat: warn against sorting requirements  https://review.openstack.org/11876120:24
jdandreaSemantics question: Does the depends_on resource attribute create a dependency upon the successful creation of a resource, or upon the resource creation being kicked off?20:27
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/heat: warn against sorting requirements  https://review.openstack.org/11876120:29
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: warn against sorting requirements  https://review.openstack.org/11876320:29
shardyjdandrea: it creates a dependency when we parse the template and create the graph, e.g before anything is created20:30
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jdandreashardy: So far, so good! Now, how is the dependency satisfied? Let's say Cinder::Volume A depends upon Cinder::Volume B. Does that mean A can't exist until B exists? Or ... does that mean A can't exist until a request to create B has been made?20:31
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shardysjmc7: sorry been afk for a while, just looking at your pastes20:33
sjmc7shardy - i think i got to the bottom of it20:34
sjmc7we're not configuring the stack_domain stuff20:34
shardysjmc7: Aha, cool - in theory that is optional, but it will require you to be admin when creating the stack20:35
sjmc7yeah, which won't work for us20:35
sjmc7i've spoken to clint; the triple-o changes for that aren't emrged yet20:35
shardysjmc7: :(  We started talking about getting the domain updates into heat many months ago20:36
shardyI didn't realize it still hadn't happened20:36
sjmc7yeah.. i've been working in devstack so long i hadn't considered it20:36
shardyjdandrea: it depends on how the resource is implemented, but resource B can't start getting created until resource A is in CREATE_COMPLETE state20:38
sjmc7shardy - thankyou for your very easy to follow blog posts on this subject :)20:38
shardymostly that means the underlying resource is created, but not necessarily fully active, e.g nova server is ACTIVE but probably still booting20:39
shardysjmc7: np, I'm probably overdue a few more, just never seem to have the time lately ;)20:39
jdandreashardy: Understood, and good news! Thanks. :)20:39
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shardyjdandrea: btw, you never need to use depends_on unless there is some relationship between resources where they don't reference each other via e.g get_resource or get_attr20:41
shardyIn most cases, heat will add the necessary dependencies for you impliclty, based on the resource interaction inside the template definition20:42
sjmc7shardy - with the domain stuff in place, everything works as planned. thanks so much for the help and blog posts20:43
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stevebakermorning20:59
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asalkeldmorning21:35
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asalkeldshardy, hows your patches going?21:40
asalkeldneed some more help?21:40
openstackgerritWinnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for reset parameters  https://review.openstack.org/10946521:41
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openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add nested_depth to internal _create_stack RPC interface  https://review.openstack.org/11573221:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add nested_depth column to stack table  https://review.openstack.org/11573021:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: engine service add nested_depth to create_stack  https://review.openstack.org/11573121:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: engine service add stack_user_project_id to create_stack interface  https://review.openstack.org/11813621:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add user_creds_id to _create_stack RPC interface  https://review.openstack.org/11633521:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add stack_user_project_id to _create_stack RPC interface  https://review.openstack.org/11813721:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: engine service add user_creds_id to create_stack interface  https://review.openstack.org/11633421:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: StackResource add show_deleted option to nested() accessor method  https://review.openstack.org/11633321:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: StackResource add force_reload to nested() accessor method  https://review.openstack.org/11633221:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move TestInstanceGroup to test_instance_group.py  https://review.openstack.org/11890621:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Unit test autoscaling._calculate_new_capacity  https://review.openstack.org/11890721:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move some AutoScalingGroup validation tests to a separate file  https://review.openstack.org/11890821:51
openstackgerritSteven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Convert the autoscaling policy tests into unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/11890921:51
openstackgerritSarvesh Ranjan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Spelling and grammatical mistakes fixed in comments.  https://review.openstack.org/11871121:52
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stevebakercores, we've been asked not to approve things to give the gate queue a chance to drain21:56
shardystevebaker: I'll WIP the top of that series, just posted as asalkeld and I have been collaborating on the test rework21:57
stevebakershardy: ok, thanks21:57
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stevebakerlarsks: hey, are you about?22:03
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Import oslo.i18n and port heat bins to use oslo.i18n  https://review.openstack.org/10892422:08
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Switch heat api to oslo i18n  https://review.openstack.org/10947922:08
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openstackgerritAngus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OSprofiler integration into Heat  https://review.openstack.org/11811522:29
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larsksstevebaker: briefly :) what's up?23:12
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stevebakerlarsks: I'm playing around with building a docker image for a standalone heat appliance, and have been looking at your images.23:13
larsksOkay. NB, they seem to work, but have barely been tested :)23:13
stevebakerlarsks: am pondering all-in-one image or wiring together mysql+rabbitmq+heat images. What do you do to orchestrate your containers?23:14
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stevebakerlarsks: do you use a mysql container or just a system mysql?23:14
larsksstevebaker: I was playing around with ansible.  I use a mysql container.  You can see my ansible playbook here:23:15
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larskshttps://github.com/larsks/openstack-containers23:15
stevebakerlarsks: ah, perfect. thanks23:15
larsksI started looking at fig but I would have to rework how I handle configuration (with fig it's not possible to run the sort of one-off scripts that I'm using in the ansible playbook)23:16
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larsksIn your place...I would build a standalone heat container that could work with either a mysql container *or* a system mysql.  It shouldn't matter.  This might make it easy for people to try out heat from master without disturbing an existing openstack deployment on the same hardware.23:18
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stevebakeryeah23:18
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dsampathquick noob q on the autoscaling api/service - which heat module will maintain the state of all the services that are dynamically being brought up and down?23:24
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stevebakerdsampath: we don't really have an autoscaling api/service. The autoscaling is implemented in the heat resources themselves. Also, what do you mean by "maintain the state of all the services"?23:26
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dsampathOh I think that sort of answers the question - what I meant was, if I create an autoscaling group in heat that has a bunch of loadbalancers, will heat track the number of lbs, their ips, etc23:29
stevebakerdsampath: heat tracks them as nested stacks, with their respective resources23:31
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tangoHmm, one of my patch failed a tempest test in check-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full, but the other one passed:23:38
tangotempest.scenario.test_network_advanced_server_ops.TestNetworkAdvancedServerOps.test_server_connectivity_resize [346.004786s] ... FAILED23:38
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tangoCould this be an intermittent error?23:38
asalkeldtango, could be23:39
asalkeldtry search for it23:39
stevebakertango: likely yes. compare the logs with what is in http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/23:39
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asalkeldBug 1297560 - *tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow fails with WaitConditionTimeout23:41
asalkeld1 fails in 24hrs / 11 fails in 10 days23:41
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1297560 in tempest "*tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow fails with WaitConditionTimeout" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129756023:41
asalkeldquiet a few hits ^23:41
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stevebakerunfortunately anything in the stack could cause that23:43
openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update api docstrings to match guidelines  https://review.openstack.org/7351523:44
tangoMurphy's Law, when you are in a hurry ...23:44
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openstackgerritZiad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update api docstrings to match guidelines  https://review.openstack.org/7351523:50
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