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| asalkeld | ga: gnome lockup | 00:04 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, if i have 2 software config's getting deployed on one server and i remove one of them does the server get rebuilt? | 00:31 |
| asalkeld | (to remove the one config) | 00:32 |
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| stevebaker | asalkeld: no, you would have to have some config which gets executed during DELETE. This will be easier to organise in your template when OS::Heat::SoftwareComponent lands | 00:50 |
| asalkeld | ok | 00:50 |
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| tiantian | morning :) | 01:15 |
| stevebaker | tiantian: hi | 01:15 |
| tiantian | <stevebaker>: hi | 01:16 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement BlockDeviceMappings for LaunchConfiguration https://review.openstack.org/105647 | 01:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix port residue when instance deletion https://review.openstack.org/115234 | 01:18 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Match tenant_id when name ambiguity in get_secgroup_uuids() https://review.openstack.org/109222 | 01:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement GroupSet updatable for AWS::EC2::NetworkInterface https://review.openstack.org/109809 | 01:19 |
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| asalkeld | urg: heat UI | 01:53 |
| asalkeld | parameters edit boxes ignores the environment that you provide | 01:54 |
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| asalkeld | swell, the UI doesn't know what to do with get_file | 02:14 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: Jordan O'Mara has been working on improving that area | 02:21 |
| asalkeld | ok | 02:21 |
| asalkeld | wanted to do demo via horizon, but can't | 02:21 |
| asalkeld | wanted to have puppet config | 02:21 |
| asalkeld | it's got a get_file | 02:22 |
| asalkeld | o well, it's ok -> cli | 02:22 |
| stevebaker | it will have to be inline config if you want to use horizon. Eventually there will be a flow which prompts for required files, and loading templates from remote URLs should just work | 02:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Jun Jie Nan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add preview option to stack abandon https://review.openstack.org/84664 | 02:23 |
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| tiantian | stevebaker&asalkeld: would you please to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105647/, tks | 02:30 |
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| asalkeld | tiantian, I am somewhat busy prep'ing for a demo this afternoon | 02:34 |
| tiantian | np, when you free :) | 02:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jun Jie Nan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move name resolving before get server https://review.openstack.org/112208 | 02:37 |
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| asalkeld | o I love it when neuton doesn't work :-( | 02:57 |
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| cmyster | morning | 03:17 |
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| skraynev | good morning | 05:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement AZ spanning for ASGs https://review.openstack.org/116139 | 06:01 |
| cmyster | morning | 06:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/111628 | 06:15 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Moving network_id_from_subnet_id to neutron client https://review.openstack.org/105382 | 06:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Examples that test scaling across AZs https://review.openstack.org/116558 | 06:24 |
| praveenkumar | why heatclient have *exc* filename for all exceptions handling instead of having standard filename *exceptions* like other clients have? | 06:34 |
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| ckmvishnu | praveenkumar: just a deviation. Heat needs and is slowly converging towards openstack standard. | 06:45 |
| praveenkumar | ckmvishnu: alright, will file bug and send patch. | 06:46 |
| ckmvishnu | praveenkumar: like logging is started to use oslo | 06:46 |
| praveenkumar | ckmvishnu: oh ok | 06:47 |
| ckmvishnu | zaneb: Hi | 06:47 |
| ckmvishnu | shardy: Hi, Addressed changes that broke CloudWatch api. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106054/ | 06:50 |
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| therve | Good morning! | 07:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement AZ spanning for ASGs https://review.openstack.org/116139 | 07:38 |
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| Qiming | hi, therve | 07:46 |
| Qiming | therve, I have got a question using ceilometer plugin where exception types are not correctly mapped | 07:47 |
| therve | Qiming, okay | 07:47 |
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| Qiming | therve, file heat/heat/engine/clients/os/ceilometer.py is importing ceilometerclient.exc and using HTTPNotFound class there | 07:48 |
| Qiming | however, ceilometerclient has changed the exception to be ceilometerclient.openstack.common.apiclient.exceptions.NotFound | 07:49 |
| Qiming | my understanding is that this is a move to use a common apiclient with shared exception classes | 07:49 |
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| Qiming | so I want to change line 15 to this "from ceilometerclient.openstack.common.apiclient import exceptions as exc" | 07:50 |
| Qiming | and line 45 to this "return isinstance(ex, exc.NotFound)" | 07:50 |
| Qiming | now the ignore_not_found() logic works as expected, i.e. a ceilometer alarm that has disappeared won't stop the stack-delete operation | 07:51 |
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| Qiming | the problem with this modification is importing "ceilometerclient.openstack.common.apiclient.exceptions", ... it looks ugly | 07:52 |
| Qiming | therve, any suggestions? | 07:52 |
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| krypto | hi can autoscaling of instance work with nova-network or is there any dependency on neutron | 08:05 |
| Qiming | krypto, in general, autoscalign should work with nova-network | 08:07 |
| Qiming | though, if you want to use a load balancer, it won't be a Neutron LBaaS based one | 08:07 |
| therve | Qiming, nope | 08:07 |
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| Qiming | therve, nope == this modification is not appropriate? | 08:09 |
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| therve | Qiming, nope, no suggestion :) | 08:09 |
| Qiming | therve, :P | 08:10 |
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| therve | I don't think an import looking ugly is big deal | 08:10 |
| krypto | Qiming : is there any other option to create load balancer using nova-network | 08:10 |
| Qiming | therve, thanks, my understanding is that it is temporary hack, eventually it may become just "import apiclient" ... | 08:11 |
| Qiming | krypto, check this: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat-templates/tree/cfn/F17/WordPress_With_LB.template | 08:13 |
| Qiming | krypto, this template should work under nova-network, with a load-balancer | 08:14 |
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| krypto | Qiming : i never tried Open stack load balancer,but i am worried that HA proxy load balancer with keepalived will not work with instances as concept of fail over IP conflicts with ip/mac stealing rules.If this wont work then that means no autoscaling :( | 08:19 |
| Qiming | krypto, I would suggest to give neutron LBaaS a try then | 08:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Skip validation if depends on not created resource https://review.openstack.org/108951 | 09:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Skip validation if depends on not created resource https://review.openstack.org/108951 | 09:36 |
| inc0 | hi guys, I have few questions about HA restarter...its just a restarter right?:) it just restarts vm if alarm is triggered. There are no migrations, shared storage boot etc?> | 09:37 |
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| pscheie | Can I use OS::Heat::CloudConfig as part of the metadata for a OS::Nova::Server instance? | 14:40 |
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| pscheie | Similar to how I've been using AWS::CloudFormation::Init: as part of the Metadata in a AWS::EC2::Instance? | 14:41 |
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| SpamapS | pscheie: yes definitely | 14:48 |
| SpamapS | pscheie: they work quite differently | 14:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | unmesh-gurjar proposed a change to openstack/heat: Database model and apis for convergence https://review.openstack.org/109012 | 14:52 |
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| pscheie | SpamapS, how do they work differently? Different syntax? | 14:58 |
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| SpamapS | pscheie: Yeah, the Heat ones go in as their own resources, not just snippets in Metadata. | 15:05 |
| SpamapS | pscheie: that way they are more reusable. | 15:05 |
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| pscheie | SpamapS, so is my resource type OS::Nova::Server or OS::Heat::CloudConfig? | 15:08 |
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| SpamapS | pscheie: both :) | 15:13 |
| SpamapS | pscheie: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat-templates/tree/hot/software-config/example-templates/example-cloud-init.yaml | 15:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Prevent using required=True with default value https://review.openstack.org/116615 | 16:47 |
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| zaneb | SpamapS: I hope you're not about to feed that troll on Quora | 16:53 |
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| SpamapS | zaneb: I did.. I couldn't resist. :-P | 16:58 |
| SpamapS | but.. WOW | 16:58 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: http://www.quora.com/If-you-were-to-make-a-competitor-matrix-for-the-open-source-IaaS-PaaS-and-commercial-cloud-provider-market-what-would-it-look-like-Include-the-major-and-the-up-and-coming-players/answer/Clint-Byrum?share=1 here tho.. not the NASA question which is just stupid. | 16:58 |
| SpamapS | It's almost laughable how inaccurate that is. | 16:58 |
| zaneb | it's more than laughable | 16:59 |
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| zaneb | but note that it was the same guy who posted both questions, the ridiculous made-up answers and the link to the -dev list | 16:59 |
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| SpamapS | Yeah | 17:01 |
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| SpamapS | My guess: somebody pulled their funding or even suggested his company just get on board with OpenStack. | 17:01 |
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| zaneb | SpamapS: probably. reply on the ML was hilarious I thought | 17:02 |
| zaneb | "This is hardly a development related question." | 17:02 |
| zaneb | "Your answers just confirm NASA was right" | 17:02 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: "With every bit your modems modulate into the internets I am proven binary 0" --troll | 17:04 |
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| SpamapS | zomg lol | 17:14 |
| SpamapS | "The apache license does not direct forbid the sell of the software or making a profit it on (GPL is the only license that does that)" | 17:14 |
| SpamapS | It's like he's a machine invented to prove that you can in fact make every sentence you say completely inaccurate AND slightly unintelligible. | 17:14 |
| stevelle | consulting! | 17:15 |
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| SpamapS | stevelle: you sir, have just won #heat for the day | 17:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | David J Hu proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Re-add keystone v3 auth with fixes https://review.openstack.org/110750 | 17:24 |
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| ankurrr | hello, I had a question about hot templates. Is there a way, within a template, to reference the "instance_user" that was used when deploying a given OS::Nova::Server object? Is there also a way to ensure that the deployment of the SW Config script happens strictly after that user's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file contains the value specified to Nova, perhaps through a depends_on value or something? | 18:33 |
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| mspreitz | ankurrr: (1) not that I know of. (2) I am not sure, that may already be a consequence of the current mechanism | 18:36 |
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| ankurrr | mspreitz: ok, thanks for the info. | 18:37 |
| mspreitz | yw | 18:37 |
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| ankurrr | One more question: is there a way to reference, within a template, the value that is copied to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file for the ec2-user? | 18:51 |
| mspreitz | ankurrr: What I know is what's documented in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/ | 18:54 |
| mspreitz | That says there is an attribute that exposes what the API does | 18:54 |
| mspreitz | Which I think includes the name of the authorized key, but not its contents | 18:55 |
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| ankurrr | mspreitz: ok, thank you again | 18:55 |
| mspreitz | yw | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Spec for balancing scaling groups across AZs https://review.openstack.org/105907 | 20:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Mike Spreitzer proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Spec for balancing scaling groups across AZs https://review.openstack.org/105907 | 20:29 |
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| stevebaker | morning | 20:51 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: we need to come up with a package name for functional tests to live in | 20:52 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: in the heat namespace | 20:52 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: I glanced through the scrollback... are we going to post to the ML and try to get a project-wide agreement on how it should be done? | 20:53 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: the established convention so far is heat.tests.functional, as I originally suggested. (granted, other projects have unit tests in foo.tests.unit but that could be done later) | 20:54 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: do functional tests run against the copy of Heat in the same tree as the tests? Or against whatever Heat server happens to be running in DevStack? | 20:55 |
| zaneb | because if it's the latter then having them in the heat namespace makes zero sense to me | 20:55 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: it tests against whatever heat the sourced credentials send you to | 20:56 |
| zaneb | that's what I thought | 20:56 |
| stevebaker | distros could package the functional tests separately | 20:56 |
| stevebaker | like api, engine | 20:56 |
| zaneb | what's the point of creating a single directory of tests that runs against (potentially) two separate versions of the codebase? | 20:57 |
| zaneb | how can that ever be a win for common sense? | 20:58 |
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| stevebaker | just install the tests for the version of heat you want to test. | 21:03 |
| zaneb | so why would they be in the Heat namespace? | 21:05 |
| zaneb | let's ignore OS packaging | 21:05 |
| stevebaker | but that is not the problem I'm trying to solve right now, which is gating on a decent set of functional tests. Having everything in a single repo for now should in theory remove most barriers to getting tests actually written and reviewed. Once we have a decent suite we can decide what to do with it (separate repo, whatever) | 21:05 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: so they can be packaged in the heat release | 21:06 |
| zaneb | I like the single repo idea, it's the single namespace idea that I'm questioning | 21:06 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: its a packagable namespace we need. | 21:07 |
| zaneb | and we can't produce two packages from one repo? | 21:07 |
| zaneb | I thought we were already doing that with /contrib stuff | 21:08 |
| stevebaker | we're not packaging contrib. users do a git checkout and build/install their own package locally | 21:09 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: I've asked sdague to come here | 21:11 |
| zaneb | thanks :) | 21:12 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: see his comment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110171/2/specs/functional-tests.rst | 21:12 |
| zaneb | I agree with him that we should find an openstack-wide standard | 21:13 |
| zaneb | unfortunately the first 3 projects took the crazy option ;) | 21:13 |
| stevebaker | I really don't see the issue | 21:16 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: in the meantime could I get a review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116529/ which makes no assumptions about where the tests will be? | 21:16 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: what does ^(?!functionaltests) do? | 21:24 |
| stevebaker | match for anything except what starts with functionaltests | 21:24 |
| stevebaker | regex negative lookahead | 21:25 |
| zaneb | ah | 21:29 |
| zaneb | ok, approved | 21:29 |
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| stevebaker | ta | 21:32 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: so what is your suggestion for a functional tests package? | 21:33 |
| zaneb | somewhere, in the heat repo but outside the heat/ tree, in a separate python package | 21:34 |
| zaneb | btw I added a comment to the spec review, since it seems like sdague is not about | 21:34 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: if your running tests with tox then unit and functional tests won't be run together | 21:43 |
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| metral | hi all - trying to add the passing of a ssh private key as a param but user_data + str_replace + params is not working | 22:05 |
| metral | any ideas/ | 22:05 |
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| metral | randallburt? | 22:06 |
| zaneb | metral: you're going to have to be a lot more specific | 22:06 |
| randallburt | metral: sorry, in a meeting atm. will check back in a bit. | 22:06 |
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| metral | zaneb snippet of my template | 22:09 |
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| metral | creating via: heat stack-create Test2 -f template.yaml -P private-key="$(< ~/.ssh/id_rsa)" | 22:10 |
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| metral | doing a stack-show shows that the private key is being passed into the param | 22:10 |
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| metral | http://sprunge.us/YcMD | 22:10 |
| metral | but the actual str replace is not working | 22:11 |
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| metral | not sure why it could | 22:11 |
| metral | be | 22:11 |
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| zaneb | metral: - vs _ | 22:13 |
| zaneb | oh, sorry, that's correct | 22:13 |
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| metral | it matches up | 22:13 |
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| metral | when i substitue another param thats also a string i pass in, it works | 22:13 |
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| metral | but something in the private key breaks it | 22:13 |
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| metral | but something in the private key breaks it | 22:16 |
| zaneb | so str_replace only works on a string as template... it looks like your template might be a map? | 22:16 |
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| metral | it is, its a cloud config script | 22:16 |
| metral | it works with other params that are also strings | 22:17 |
| metral | but something in the private key is screwing with it | 22:17 |
| metral | taking it could be the new lines or something | 22:17 |
| zaneb | could be, yeah. loading it in yaml I do get a string for the template | 22:18 |
| metral | hmm, even wrapping it in double quotes didnt do it | 22:18 |
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| metral | is there any examples of others importing ssh private keys into heat templates via params? | 22:19 |
| zaneb | not that I know of | 22:19 |
| metral | hmm k thx | 22:19 |
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| stevebaker | metral: why don't you use the OS::Heat::CloudConfig resource instead of building a yaml string? | 22:25 |
| stevebaker | metral: how are you passing in your private key? | 22:25 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: replied https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110171/2/specs/functional-tests.rst | 22:28 |
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| metral | stevebaker the cloud config is for coreos's cloud init, a modified version of cloud-config, so os::heat::cloudconfig wouldnt be applicable, i wouldnt think | 22:30 |
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| stevebaker | metral: its exactly what you need. All it does is let you write cloud-config in heat-template yaml, and it produces a string with #cloud-config\n prepended to the front. There is no cloud-config specific validation donw | 22:33 |
| stevebaker | done | 22:33 |
| metral | ah ok | 22:33 |
| metral | ill check it out | 22:33 |
| stevebaker | metral: then you can just have content: {get_param: private_key} | 22:33 |
| stevebaker | metral: how are you passing in your private key? | 22:33 |
| metral | thats what im currently using, but something in the private key itself is not working | 22:34 |
| metral | cause when i pass in a regular string such as "foobar" it works | 22:34 |
| zaneb | metral: does your private key have an '=' in it? | 22:35 |
| stevebaker | metral: how are you passing in your private key? -P parameter? | 22:35 |
| zaneb | pretty sure the CLI code breaks on that | 22:35 |
| zaneb | or used to | 22:35 |
| metral | zaneb yes it does | 22:35 |
| metral | stevebaker ya via heat stack-create Test2 -f template.yaml -P private-key="$(< ~/.ssh/id_rsa)" | 22:36 |
| zaneb | I suspect it's something to do the the = | 22:36 |
| zaneb | s/the/with/ | 22:36 |
| metral | interesting | 22:36 |
| stevebaker | metral: you may need to create an environment file and include the key contents in the parameters: section | 22:36 |
| metral | stevebaker i was thinkign about that just now | 22:37 |
| stevebaker | metral: I'm fairly sure multiple = is handled on parameter passing, but double quotes after the = isn't | 22:37 |
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| zaneb | the shell should take care of the quotes shirley | 22:45 |
| stevebaker | actually yes | 22:46 |
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