Thursday, 2014-07-31

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openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Support classes for heat functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/11049600:03
openstackgerritSteve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move test_server_cfn_init from tempest to heat  https://review.openstack.org/11049700:03
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use Constraint stubs in common.py  https://review.openstack.org/11083001:37
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use Constraint stubs in common.py  https://review.openstack.org/11083001:38
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openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement BlockDeviceMappings for AWS::EC2::Instance  https://review.openstack.org/10372502:00
openstackgerrithuangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement BlockDeviceMappings for LaunchConfiguration  https://review.openstack.org/10564702:00
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Port rackspace clients to client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9868702:15
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement marconi client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9868302:29
asalkeldrandallburt, is going to have to change the name of that02:30
asalkeldwhat macaroni's new name?02:30
randallburtasalkeld:  had no idea there was a new name for it.02:31
randallburtasalkeld:  it'll have to wait for another patch tho ;)02:31
asalkeldkurt sent a message to the ml02:31
asalkeldZaqar02:31
randallburtdidn't see it. I can ping him tomorrow or Friday, though02:31
* asalkeld does not know how to say that02:31
randallburtreally? that's kinda aweful.02:31
asalkeldgo beat up on him;)02:32
randallburtI will indeed.02:32
asalkeldit should be easily pronounceable02:32
asalkeldq without a 'u' confuses me02:33
asalkeldqantus - wtf02:33
randallburtlol02:34
elynn morning all guys :)02:43
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement barbican client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9868402:44
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Only support client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9868802:47
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Port rackspace clients to client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9868703:13
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement marconi client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9868303:16
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement barbican client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9868403:18
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Only support client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9868803:20
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openstackgerritDavid J Hu proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Re-add keystone v3 auth with fixes  https://review.openstack.org/11075005:03
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openstackgerritSirushti Murugesan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Observer Service and RPC Methods for it  https://review.openstack.org/11085405:50
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/10497506:00
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elynnHi guys, I have a question. Does heat support keystoneV3 now?06:24
cmystershould06:24
cmysterelynn: IIRC it was supported even before IceHouse06:25
elynnI found a maillist about it. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-February/026086.html06:26
elynnBut not sure if it was supported in Icehouse...06:26
cmysterit was06:27
cmysterand it06:27
cmysteris06:27
cmysterelynn: why, are you having issues with v3 ?06:27
tspatzierSpamapS: still around?06:27
elynncmyster, When using keystoneV3, Should I change heat.conf?06:28
cmysterelynn: looking at the default heat.conf I see this line is commented out (as in this is a default) #keystone_backend=heat.common.heat_keystoneclient.KeystoneClientV306:30
cmysterelynn: though this is devstack so you might want to consider looking for that line in IceHouse and see that it is the same or uncomment it06:32
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elynnthx cmyster :) I will try that. Maybe my env is not ready, or heat.conf is not right. Need some time to repair it.06:34
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therveGood morning06:53
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cmystermorning therve06:54
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openstackgerritIgor Milovanovic proposed a change to openstack/heat: Correct syntax in example on the Heat Plug-in Development Guide  https://review.openstack.org/11081107:26
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skraynevgood day08:25
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openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix downgrades in migration scripts 016 and 035  https://review.openstack.org/10998008:56
openstackgerritVictor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Run migration tests on PostgreSQL and MySQL  https://review.openstack.org/10965808:56
viktorstherve: hi! I've modified my patches (see ^^), could you please look at them?08:57
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Akshikis it possible to execute some script on a running instance09:11
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ckmvishnutherve: patch to add UUID and alter id to integer is around for more than 20 days. can you have a look09:14
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ckmvishnutherve: review url https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106054/09:16
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement snapshots for servers and volumes  https://review.openstack.org/8728010:40
openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add snapshot restore HTTP API  https://review.openstack.org/9212510:40
openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement stack restore  https://review.openstack.org/9212410:40
openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement snapshot listing  https://review.openstack.org/9212610:40
openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add APIs to create and manipulate snapshots  https://review.openstack.org/8727910:40
openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add RPC method to snapshot stacks  https://review.openstack.org/8727810:40
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openstackgerritRikimaru Honjo proposed a change to openstack/heat: Restore resource_id from backup_stack  https://review.openstack.org/10276711:24
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat: Prevent excessive validation for maxPersonality limit  https://review.openstack.org/10192611:43
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joeroyallcan key/value pair be passed to the heat stack-create command via a file?13:30
ryansbjoeroyall: you mean the parameters (-P or --parameter)?13:31
joeroyall-P13:32
joeroyallyes13:32
joeroyallor can they be passed as environment variables?13:32
ryansbYes, that is possible using an environment file13:33
ryansbhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Environments13:33
ryansbon the command line you would use stack-create -f <your template file> -e <your environment file>13:33
ryansbif you wanted "-P myuser=joeroyall;mypass=123" you would make an environment file like13:34
ryansbparameters:13:34
ryansb  myuser: joeroyall13:34
ryansb  mypass: 12313:34
joeroyallthanks13:34
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zanebelynn: python-heatclient doesn't support v3 yet: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110750/14:03
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openstackgerritPeter Belanyi proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add support for multiple environment files  https://review.openstack.org/11098414:52
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viktorstherve: hi! Are you around?15:00
therveviktors, Hi15:00
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viktorstherve: can I ask you to look at patch  https://review.openstack.org/109658 (Run migration tests on PostgreSQL and MySQL ) ? We discussed this change yesterday.15:01
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therveviktors, You can always ask!15:01
viktorstherve: :)15:01
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therveIt's unlikely that I'll look before end of next week15:03
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openstackgerritunmesh-gurjar proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Added timeout and rollback params in stack-preview  https://review.openstack.org/10355215:38
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SpamapStspatzier: I'm here now.16:17
tspatzierhey SpamapS16:17
tspatzierSo you said you thought again about the action-aware-swconfig spec?16:18
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SpamapStspatzier: did not get a chance to share my thoughts yesterday. Basically I'm starting to think software config is a big enough thing it might need to be its own thing, rather than tightly coupled with HOT/Heat.16:18
SpamapStspatzier: It basically already is.. with the public API being used for the objects. I just want to make sure we keep the separation strong, and we might want to consider allowing other software config API's.16:19
tspatzierSpamapS: what I want to achieve is to give users the change to invoke their sw config tools of their choice for all of Heat's resource actions, i.e. provide them hooks in accordance with Heat's resource model.16:20
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tspatzierone can do this today as I argued in the spec, but then you end up with multiple resources in a stack that basically represent the same sw installation, which is pretty un-intuitive IMO16:21
SpamapStspatzier: right. What I'm thinking is that those hooks should be engine -> API, with swconfig being the default API, rather than 'engine->swconfig->yourtool'16:22
tspatzierSpamapS: but with engine -> API this would mean we need dedicated resource plug-ins per API, so users would have to get into the resource plugin programming model.16:23
SpamapSAs an example, instead of calling swconfig into the instance, I may want to poke Icinga to disable checks on a box, or hit an API to evoke a tool like Ansible to put the box in a certain state.16:23
SpamapStspatzier: Yeah, I'm not sure how to get around that.16:24
SpamapStspatzier: It may be that we just have to make those things in-instance.16:24
SpamapS<sigh> .. that's really the problem. Good point.16:24
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tspatzierSpamapS: I see, triggering tools that sit outside the instance that can work with the instance (your example above) is a good point. Because the in-instance tools also have some implications and can cause issues.16:25
SpamapStspatzier: ok, so really then what I'm on about is how painful it is to use swconfig API, with metadata updating, polling, and signal credentials being needed.16:25
SpamapSPerhaps we should just improve that, and then we get my desire anyway.. people just have to implement proxies in-instance.16:26
tspatzierSpamapS: yeah, that API thing with the polling etc. is really not easy, and we have to think of some enhancement.16:26
SpamapSThis is where I shake my fist at Marconi for not being performant.16:26
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tspatzierSpamapS: anyway, with the current bp I just want to give users a more intuitive way to express stuff in a template. I.e. have one "swcomponent" that gets associated to a server via SoftwareDeployment, instead of having multiple of both16:27
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tspatzierIt actually looks like very little implementation overhead based on what we have. The API and in-instance polling etc. is an orthogonal topic IMO16:28
tspatzierSpamapS: so marconi would have something that could be triggered to do something on an instance?16:29
SpamapStspatzier: Marconi would just pass messages to an agent.16:30
SpamapStspatzier: to/from an agent16:30
tspatzierSpamapS: ok, fair enough16:30
SpamapStspatzier: no you're right, the actual approach of triggering a swconfig "wait" on actions is good. We just need to make the swconfig "wait" better to make me happy.16:30
tspatzierSpamapS: ha, you found the right words :)16:31
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SpamapStspatzier: appreciate your time discussing this. I'll try to record my thoughts in the spec review later today.16:31
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tspatzierSpamapS: thanks. and I think those are all good points. on the current spec again, this will not solve the problem, but it would improve user experience for template authors IMO. And the coding effort is reasonable. If we have that, I am all for attacking the nofication/signaling topic.16:33
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tspatzierSpamapS: anyway, thanks for your time as well, and for sharing your thoughts. I'll move to homeoffice now. ttyl16:36
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jdandreaIs there any example code that shows how to obtain a token, given a username/tenant/password? (This is for a plugin that calls out to a service that itself needs a token. If I can/should get a token for the heat user in the service tenant though, that would be even better.)17:09
jdandrea(Yes, I went looking. Didn't find anything yet.)17:10
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement barbican client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9868417:11
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use setuptools to install contrib plugins  https://review.openstack.org/10344117:11
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Only support client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9868817:11
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Port rackspace clients to client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9868717:11
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove function get_software_config  https://review.openstack.org/10139617:11
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Cinder, trove, ceilo use ignore_not_found etc  https://review.openstack.org/10139717:11
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Glance, swift use ClientPlugin.ignore_not_found  https://review.openstack.org/10042417:11
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement marconi client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9868317:11
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Client plugin exception handling methods  https://review.openstack.org/10042117:11
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Neutron use ClientPlugin.ignore_not_found etc  https://review.openstack.org/10042317:11
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Nova use ClientPlugin.ignore_not_found  https://review.openstack.org/10042217:11
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move nova_utils functions to nova client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10178217:11
randallburtjdandrea:  if this is a heat plugin, you should have access to the user's token in the context.17:12
jdandrearandallburt: Excellent. (Any user?)17:14
randallburtjdandrea:  the user that's calling Heat.17:14
jdandreaThat's what I was afraid of. That user doesn't necessarily have the necessary privs.17:14
jdandreaSo there is a separate user that has been pre-added to the service tenant with admin privs, and they want to use that. However, now I'm wondering if that is superfluous and the heat user/tenant would be enough.17:15
zanebjdandrea: why do you want to let the user do something they don't have privileges to do? that kind of defeats the definition of privileges17:16
sjmc7morning all. is there a short version of the reason keystone v3 support got reverted from heatclient?17:16
jdandreaHeat does things on behalf of me, that I don't have privileges to do, correct?17:16
randallburtjdandrea:  generally, no17:16
jdandreaGenerally ... so sometimes?17:16
randallburtjdandrea:  it doesn't do anything that the user couldn't do except create some domain user stuff that Heat owns in order to grab trusts tokens to do things the user could also do.17:17
* jdandrea may be getting confused by what he saw at Atlanta with no longer needing the password field in Horizon.17:17
jdandreaAh. That may be where my disconnect is. I'm still trying to wrap my head around that.17:17
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randallburtjdandrea:  I think so. Moving to trusts means we don't need the user's credentials any more17:18
jdandreaSo I should (somehow) get the user's token (out of the context) and just go with that.17:19
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jdandrea... and if the user needs admin privs to do some things, then we have to bump them up at that point.17:19
randallburtjdandrea:  esentially, yes17:19
jdandreaOk, thx.17:19
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jdandreaOk, I see what my confusion was (I think). I DO want to pass the user's token and tenant id, not this other (admin-privileged) user I was referring to. What this third party service does, however, is make operations on the cloud (much like nova or neutron would do with its credentials), but that service already knows about that admin privileged user and gets its own token separately.17:39
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openstackgerritAnderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Display stack owner when formatting stacks  https://review.openstack.org/10165717:59
andersonvomzaneb: hey, I just rebased the patch you just approved cause jenkins failed to merge it.  can you take a look at it again?18:02
zanebsure18:02
andersonvomzaneb: thanks18:02
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andersonvomzaneb: I failed to add the link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101657 =)18:03
zanebit was posted just above by the openstackgerrit bot ;)18:04
zanebandersonvom: re-approved18:05
andersonvomdoh, this is what you get for doing things too automatically.18:05
andersonvomzaneb: thanks! =)18:05
zanebnp18:05
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openstackgerritIgor Milovanovic proposed a change to openstack/heat: Correct example syntax and whitespace  https://review.openstack.org/11081118:28
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-GitHub127- [heat-jeos] sdake pushed 4 new commits to master: http://git.io/jIo8Pg18:32
-GitHub127- heat-jeos/master c1b44c1 Jon A: Update CentOS-6.3-x86_64-cfntools.tdl...18:32
-GitHub127- heat-jeos/master 62152b8 Jon Archer: Updating CentOS version to reflect latest release. Kept original.18:32
-GitHub127- heat-jeos/master a9885f8 Jon Archer: Creating new versions for Fedora 19 and 20.18:32
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zanebwhew, finally scrubbed my Gerrit mailbox18:42
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zanebnow if someone adds me to a review, I might actually see it18:42
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boris-42Hi heat people!19:47
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boris-42zaneb hi19:52
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zanebo/19:52
boris-42zaneb so performance job is ready19:54
boris-42zaneb https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110920/19:54
boris-42zaneb you'll need to +1 this if you would it19:54
zanebboris-42: ok, cool. I'll take a look. thanks!19:55
randallburtI can't wait for this presentation in Paris: http://www.openstack.org/vote-paris/Presentation/astrologer19:55
boris-42zaneb and as soon as I see +1 from heat=) I'll make heat patch19:55
boris-42zaneb that adds rally-scenarios with default stuff like in other projects19:56
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zanebboris-42: +1'd19:57
boris-42zaneb fu** to fast19:57
boris-42=)19:57
boris-42too*19:57
boris-42zaneb okay I will make asap patch=)19:57
zanebboris-42: you can workflow-1 it if it's not ready to merge yet :)19:57
boris-42zaneb that one is ready for merge19:58
boris-42zaneb we are adding non voting job19:58
zanebok cool19:58
boris-42zaneb so it will just fail without patch in heat19:58
boris-42zaneb but it won't break heat gates=)19:58
f13ohi all!19:59
f13othe last build of review failed (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110811/) but quick look at the console20:00
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f13oindicates something around authentication, while my change is pure doc change.20:00
f13owhat i am supposed to do in this case? wait?20:01
ryansb_f13o: see https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GerritJenkinsGit#Test_Failures20:01
* f13o reading through that20:01
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zanebhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/update-dry-run <- if anyone is looking for a bp to pick up20:29
zanebjpeeler, ryansb_ ^20:29
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ryansb_o/20:30
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jpeelerhe's fast20:34
jpeeleror i'm slow20:34
ryansb_Thanks, weechat-inotify20:35
ryansb_zaneb: what's the priority on that? Is it alright if I toss it in my queue after the current pass of openstackclient work?20:36
zanebnot a priority20:37
zanebjust an idea I had reading http://www.terraform.io/intro/vs/cloudformation.html20:37
zanebso I raised a bp, but I don't have time to work on it in the foreseeable future20:38
ryansb_Gotcha. Terraform looks pretty sweet. I ran across it last night.20:38
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zaneblooks like they're at a pretty early stage, but it is definitely interesting20:44
ryansb_yeah. hashicorp almost always gets awesome publicity when they release anything, even if it's super early20:45
ryansb_perks of writing vagrant, I guess.20:45
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stevebakerzaneb: did my joke reply miss the point? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100421/26/heat/engine/clients/client_plugin.py21:17
zanebstevebaker: heh. that would work but you'd lose the traceback21:18
stevebakerahh21:18
zanebor rather, you'd acquire a new, less helpful, traceback21:18
stevebakermeh, its a NotFound exception. The actual source is outside heat21:18
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zanebI just assumed you'd used "raise" instead of "raise ex" because you cared about that21:19
stevebakerno, I forgot to change it when the ex argument was added21:19
zaneblol21:20
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sloweI have somehow managed to get a stack "stuck" in Heat. It won't deploy (reports an error), won't delete (reports an error), and won't update (reports an error). Any suggestions on how to clear this out?21:27
stevebakerzaneb: the try: blocks for ignore_not_found are generally a single API call, so I think the traceback from just doing a "raise ex" should still be reasonably useful21:30
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zanebstevebaker: fair enough21:33
stevebakerslowe: it depends on the error, but you may progress by deleting the problem OpenStack resource directly using its cli tool21:34
slowestevebaker: Ah, so delete the offending Nova instance or Neutron network, for example?21:35
stevebakerslowe: yes21:35
slowestevebaker: OK, let me see if that will work at all. If that doesn't work, any other suggestions? Start hacking on the back-end DB for Heat?21:36
stevebakerslowe: that is a viable last resort, can you paste the error?21:37
slowestevebaker: One sec...let me pull it from the logs21:37
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stevebakerrandallburt: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100421/ needs a couple of small changes, it might be safer if you do it21:38
randallburtstevebaker:  looking21:39
randallburtstevebaker:  k. will do21:40
stevebakerrandallburt: thanks21:40
randallburtnp21:40
slowestevebaker: So the error is in relation to the Docker plugin (which I was able to get working earlier this week with help from this channel). The Docker resource in the template was lacking a property (a TCP/UDP port on which to bind), and now all operations fail because that property wasn't there21:42
slowestevebaker: I've since added the property to the template and attempted to update the stack, but that fails as well (same error)21:43
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zanebhttps://zaneb.fedorapeople.org/kilo/talks.html <- keep this under your hats21:46
stevebakerslowe: in that case deleting won't help, the docker plugin lacks the appropriate NotFound error handling. It is at this point I explain *why* this resource is in contrib ;)21:46
slowestevebaker: Fair enough :-)21:46
slowestevebaker: So...MySQL hacking it is, then?21:46
randallburtzaneb:  nice, thanks!21:48
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Client plugin exception handling methods  https://review.openstack.org/10042121:49
randallburtzaneb stevebaker: done ^^21:49
stevebakerzaneb: the titles for the heat related talks look like they were generated by an OpenStack jargon bot21:49
zanebalso, vote for me and shardy: http://www.openstack.org/vote-paris/Presentation/heat-beyond-the-basics21:50
zanebslowe: or fix the plugin ;)21:51
slowezaneb: Then MySQL hacking it is :-)21:51
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randallburtzaneb:  did. while we're politicking: http://www.openstack.org/vote-paris/Presentation/glance-artifacts-its-not-just-for-images-anymore and http://www.openstack.org/vote-paris/Presentation/maintaining-data-integrity-in-openstack-web-apps-using-barricade-js :D21:52
asalkeldand I have one solum-mistrl21:59
asalkeldhttp://www.openstack.org/vote-paris/Presentation/solum-making-full-use-of-mistral-for-ci-cd-tasks22:00
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openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement barbican client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9868422:01
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use setuptools to install contrib plugins  https://review.openstack.org/10344122:01
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Only support client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9868822:01
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Port rackspace clients to client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/9868722:01
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove function get_software_config  https://review.openstack.org/10139622:01
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Cinder, trove, ceilo use ignore_not_found etc  https://review.openstack.org/10139722:01
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Glance, swift use ClientPlugin.ignore_not_found  https://review.openstack.org/10042422:01
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement marconi client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/9868322:01
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Neutron use ClientPlugin.ignore_not_found etc  https://review.openstack.org/10042322:01
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Nova use ClientPlugin.ignore_not_found  https://review.openstack.org/10042222:01
openstackgerritRandall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move nova_utils functions to nova client plugin  https://review.openstack.org/10178222:01
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/heat-specs: Action-aware software config specification  https://review.openstack.org/9874222:08
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uberj_I think there is a bug in how you are deleting things with 'heat stack-delete'. On first attempt I am getting "Delete_Failed: Resource DELETE failed: NeutronClientException: 409-{u'NeutronError': {u'message': u'Router interface for subnet 5ca586c8-ec66-447f-8b95-4414ebf2aa6a on router 6d0cf0ca-790d-4e0b-a98a-885fc8f6ee69 cannot be deleted, as it is required by one or more floati"22:36
uberj_if I issue a second delete it successfully deletes the entire stack22:37
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Dambleshello22:56
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openstackgerritDavid J Hu proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Re-add keystone v3 auth with fixes  https://review.openstack.org/11075023:19
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randallburtuberj:  sorry so late, but sounds like a timing issue with neutron. perhaps some of the retry work stevebaker is doing will help23:24
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