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| openstackgerrit | Winnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for patching parameters https://review.openstack.org/109105 | 01:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Winnie Tsang proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add stack-update argument for reset parameters https://review.openstack.org/109465 | 01:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Update theme for docs https://review.openstack.org/109434 | 01:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Import the stack module directly https://review.openstack.org/107292 | 01:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use the template module to access the Template class https://review.openstack.org/107291 | 01:28 |
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| liusheng | asalkeld: Hi Angus Salkeld, could you please approve the spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105952/ ? if you think it valuable :) | 01:31 |
| asalkeld | looking liusheng | 01:32 |
| liusheng | asalkeld: if so, I will upload patchesets for that | 01:32 |
| liusheng | asalkeld: thanks :) | 01:32 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker, what's our "policy" on approving specs? | 01:33 |
| asalkeld | how many +2's do we need? does ptl need to approve? - I seem to have missed the memo | 01:34 |
| tiantian | <asalkeld>: they said stevebaker in UK this week | 01:35 |
| asalkeld | o, ok - thanks | 01:35 |
| asalkeld | them openstack people really seem to travel :-O | 01:36 |
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| tiantian | <asalkeld>: may be zaneb is around :) | 01:36 |
| * zaneb hides | 01:37 | |
| asalkeld | zaneb, just qu about approving specs | 01:37 |
| asalkeld | do you have to approve, how many +2's etc... | 01:37 |
| zaneb | I don't want to the PTL to be a single point of failure | 01:37 |
| asalkeld | you mean single point of success? | 01:38 |
| asalkeld | :) | 01:38 |
| zaneb | aim for consensus... more controversial changes require more consensus | 01:38 |
| zaneb | no hard and fast rule | 01:38 |
| asalkeld | dang | 01:38 |
| asalkeld | that's the worst | 01:38 |
| zaneb | asalkeld: well, if I don't see it and nothing gets approved as a result, then it's a single point of failure | 01:38 |
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| asalkeld | o, totally - but could be hard and fast 3 * +2 | 01:39 |
| asalkeld | ? | 01:39 |
| zaneb | there is too much stuff in OpenStack that relies on the PTL as a SPOF | 01:39 |
| asalkeld | if 3 cores agree then really should be ok | 01:39 |
| zaneb | asalkeld: add it to the meeting agenda, we can discuss a hard-an-fast rule | 01:39 |
| zaneb | in almost all cases yes | 01:39 |
| asalkeld | zaneb, it just makes it more likely to impove spec approval rate | 01:40 |
| zaneb | for wide sweeping changes, I can imagine wanting more to look at it | 01:40 |
| asalkeld | zaneb, sure | 01:40 |
| asalkeld | aka convergance | 01:40 |
| zaneb | exactly | 01:41 |
| asalkeld | so tiantian I'll leave your spec at a +2 | 01:41 |
| zaneb | it's a tradeoff | 01:41 |
| zaneb | I don't want to put anyone in a difficult position in terms of worrying that they may have approved too early | 01:41 |
| zaneb | but I trust everyone's judgement in the core team | 01:42 |
| asalkeld | zaneb, maybe is you are the third core you *can* approve if confident | 01:42 |
| zaneb | maybe if we said that it's OK but not compulsory to approve after 3 | 01:42 |
| asalkeld | but if not just +1 | 01:42 |
| zaneb | yeah, exactly | 01:42 |
| asalkeld | exactly | 01:42 |
| asalkeld | zaneb, do you mind if i delete some old agenda's | 01:44 |
| zaneb | nah, go ahead | 01:44 |
| asalkeld | got about a dozen there | 01:44 |
| zaneb | I just added that to next week's agenda though | 01:44 |
| zaneb | so check for conflicts | 01:44 |
| asalkeld | yeah i see it | 01:45 |
| asalkeld | cool thanks | 01:45 |
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| Qiming | hi, your comments/suggestions to this bug are appreciated: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1343873 | 01:46 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1343873 in heat "'rolling_update' property should be treated as implicitly specified" [Undecided,New] | 01:46 |
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| zaneb | tiantian: I approved your spec :) | 01:46 |
| tiantian | <asalkeld>: correct, it's not my spec | 01:47 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108917/ | 01:48 |
| asalkeld | need some specialist areas | 01:48 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-specs: Add log translation hints for Heat https://review.openstack.org/105952 | 01:49 |
| tiantian | <zaneb>: in fact I have a spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105644/ hope your review/approve :) tks tks | 01:49 |
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| asalkeld | seems like we need a 'team' interested in aws compat. | 01:52 |
| zaneb | tiantian: +2 | 01:52 |
| asalkeld | seems to be a lot of interest | 01:52 |
| zaneb | what is the opposite of "to volunteer"? | 01:53 |
| asalkeld | to hide in the corner? | 01:54 |
| asalkeld | :) | 01:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-specs: Add specification to implement LaunchConfiguration bdm https://review.openstack.org/105644 | 01:55 |
| asalkeld | Coercion? | 01:56 |
| asalkeld | conscripted | 01:57 |
| Qiming | seduction | 01:58 |
| tiantian | <asalkeld>: first volunteer | 01:58 |
| asalkeld | zaneb this might need you eyes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105742/ | 01:58 |
| asalkeld | tiantian not sure, haven't used it in a while | 01:59 |
| asalkeld | wow tspatzier is verbose, phew now I have a heap to read | 02:00 |
| nanjj | asalkeld: :) | 02:02 |
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| tiantian | <asalkeld>: happy when need | 02:02 |
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| nanjj | asalkeld: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108949/ needs your comments | 02:03 |
| tspatzier | hi asalkeld, what are you referring to? | 02:03 |
| asalkeld | hi tspatzier | 02:03 |
| asalkeld | the action spec | 02:04 |
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| asalkeld | it's all good | 02:04 |
| asalkeld | tspatzier, a question while you are here | 02:05 |
| tspatzier | ah, I see ;) It actually did not really change since you gave a +2 some time back. More minor changes in response to comments IIRC. | 02:05 |
| asalkeld | configs:168 | 02:05 |
| asalkeld | - actions: [ CREATE ] | 02:05 |
| tspatzier | asalkeld: sure | 02:05 |
| nanjj | tspatzier: where you are now? | 02:05 |
| asalkeld | but you say one action | 02:05 |
| asalkeld | why the list | 02:05 |
| tspatzier | nanjj: I am in Austin this week. 9pm here. | 02:05 |
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| tspatzier | asalkeld: stevebaker suggested we make this a list, so you could re-use a config for multiple actions if desired. E.g. if you have a script or chef recipe that can be used for both CREATE and UPDATE, you can specify this. And then only have something else for e.g. SUSPEND and RESUME. | 02:06 |
| asalkeld | I see, does the action get passed into the script? | 02:07 |
| asalkeld | can the script know that's it an update or create | 02:07 |
| tspatzier | Yeah, we decided that the in-instance hook would get all the config hooks for all the actions. And then we would also pass the current action, so the in-instance hook can select the right one execute. | 02:08 |
| asalkeld | ok | 02:08 |
| asalkeld | seems to be counter to: | 02:08 |
| asalkeld | Use of scripts that conditionally handle actions267 | 02:09 |
| asalkeld | It would be possible to provide scripts that get invoked for all of a268 | 02:09 |
| asalkeld | resource's lifecycle actions. Those scripts would have to include a lot of269 | 02:09 |
| asalkeld | conditional logic, which would make them very complicated. | 02:09 |
| tspatzier | Alternative would have been to let the SoftwareDeployment resource only pass the one config for the current action down. | 02:09 |
| asalkeld | anyways that is been super critical | 02:09 |
| asalkeld | could be argued either way | 02:09 |
| asalkeld | +2'd | 02:10 |
| tspatzier | agree, either way would have worked. The only important point IMO is that you really don't have to code the conditions in the script, but either the generic in-instance hook logic or the SoftwareDeployment resource logic does it. | 02:10 |
| tspatzier | thanks asalkeld | 02:10 |
| asalkeld | why is this even a spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108949/5/specs/vnc-console.rst | 02:11 |
| asalkeld | seems like a bug/ very minor feature | 02:11 |
| asalkeld | nanjj, ^ | 02:11 |
| asalkeld | why not just post a patch | 02:11 |
| asalkeld | o, well approved | 02:13 |
| asalkeld | lunch bbl | 02:14 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-specs: VNC console attribute support https://review.openstack.org/108949 | 02:14 |
| nanjj | asalkeld: yes, tiny | 02:14 |
| tspatzier | asalkeld: btw, maybe we could also approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105742 - 5 +2's already, not sure if we have any particular threshold ... | 02:15 |
| elynn | morning all :) | 02:19 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Match tenant_id when name ambiguity in get_secgroup_uuids() https://review.openstack.org/109222 | 02:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-specs: Implement AWS "Updates are not supported" https://review.openstack.org/105742 | 02:38 |
| tiantian | <zaneb><asalkeld>: hi, about the quota-api | 02:38 |
| tiantian | <zaneb><asalkeld> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96696/, is it valuable? | 02:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move UpdateReplace exception to exception.py https://review.openstack.org/109194 | 03:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enable lazy translation on heat https://review.openstack.org/108917 | 03:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Import oslo.i18n and port heat bins to use oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/108924 | 03:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Switch heat api to oslo i18n https://review.openstack.org/109479 | 03:08 |
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| asalkeld | tiantian, looking | 03:22 |
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| tiantian | <asalkeld>: this blueprint has been approved by shardy, and the code is finished, seens Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum disagree, I and shardy reply the ml, then no reply, so may be this should be discuss? | 03:28 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, the ml thread suggests most cores are thinking it's not needed | 03:30 |
| asalkeld | so we should use the quotas exposed via other services | 03:30 |
| asalkeld | and there is not much to quota | 03:31 |
| asalkeld | SpamapS, maybe one thing that could have a quota is convergance worker jobs | 03:31 |
| asalkeld | (so one stack donesn't flood the message queues) | 03:32 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, that is a way off tho' | 03:32 |
| SpamapS | that is an operator concern | 03:33 |
| asalkeld | ok, so then no need for quota api | 03:34 |
| SpamapS | I'm still not convinced that Heat, even though it ends up being heavy now because "reasons"... needs a per-user quota system. | 03:34 |
| SpamapS | But I could be wrong. It's just my opinion. | 03:35 |
| SpamapS | And I don't really run a massive Heat install. I think the people who would be most interesting to ask would be those at Rackspace running their beta Heat service. | 03:35 |
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| tiantian | <asalkeld>I hear the rally needs this | 03:35 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, what for ? | 03:36 |
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| tiantian | <asalkeld>:Specific I don't know, may be Sergey Kraynev know this, or rally need absolutely-limit to show the pie | 03:38 |
| asalkeld | I see, maybe this is just and admin/operator api then? | 03:39 |
| asalkeld | (readonly) | 03:39 |
| asalkeld | tho' adding an api purely for a test tool seems a little weird | 03:39 |
| tiantian | <asalkeld>: another blueprint about the absolutely-limit depends on this blueprint: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99589/ | 03:40 |
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| asalkeld | tiantian, so this is just a "show" - readonly | 03:41 |
| asalkeld | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99589/5/heat/engine/service.py | 03:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move UpdateReplace exception to exception.py https://review.openstack.org/109194 | 03:42 |
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| tiantian | <asalkeld>: for absolutely-limit, it is | 03:43 |
| asalkeld | maybe just a show would be ok, people are unsure of the use of crud api for quotas | 03:43 |
| asalkeld | tiantian, does rally want to modify quota's | 03:43 |
| asalkeld | or just read what they are | 03:43 |
| asalkeld | I think exposing the limits is reasonable | 03:44 |
| asalkeld | to view | 03:44 |
| tiantian | asalkeld: I don't know much, I will ask Sergey Kraynev later, about the rally whether is need the quota-api | 03:45 |
| asalkeld | ok, cool | 03:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enable lazy translation on heat https://review.openstack.org/108917 | 03:46 |
| tiantian | <asalkeld>: if the quota-api isn't need, the implemention of absolutely-limit need modify | 03:47 |
| SpamapS | tiantian: I don't mean to be a party-pooper. I am merely concerned that doing quotas "just because somebody might want it" is a large undertaking without a large use case. | 03:47 |
| SpamapS | tiantian: as I said, I am not running a large heat. My biggest heat has 1 user, 2 stacks and just manages 40 baremetal servers. So it's possible I have no clue whatsoever how expensive it is to let Heat manage hundreds of users and thousands of stacks. | 03:48 |
| asalkeld | I am all for starting small, maybe just view what limits we have is useful for a user | 03:48 |
| asalkeld | like the recursion limits | 03:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Import oslo.i18n and port heat bins to use oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/108924 | 03:49 |
| SpamapS | asalkeld: I do wonder if we could eliminate the recursion limits by implementing a "root stack resource counter". | 03:50 |
| SpamapS | I was hesitant to do that when I was putting in the limits | 03:50 |
| asalkeld | shouldn't be hard | 03:50 |
| SpamapS | But I actually think convergence will give us a good opportunity to do it. | 03:51 |
| tiantian | SpamapS: Of course not,you are pretty:) | 03:51 |
| SpamapS | Since we're not going to be parsing whole stacks all the time, we can just maintain it in the resource create/delete methods. | 03:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Switch heat api to oslo i18n https://review.openstack.org/109479 | 03:51 |
| SpamapS | Anyway, I'm jet lagged and grumpy.. time to hit the sack. | 03:52 |
| SpamapS | tiantian: aw thanks. ;) | 03:52 |
| asalkeld | har | 03:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.contrib https://review.openstack.org/109484 | 04:00 |
| tiantian | asalkeld: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103725/ has modified according your comments, hope you review it again, tks | 04:03 |
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| asalkeld | looking now | 04:06 |
| asalkeld | getting review weary ... | 04:09 |
| tiantian | <asalkeld>: tks :) | 04:14 |
| asalkeld | np | 04:14 |
| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.api https://review.openstack.org/109487 | 04:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Switch heat engine to oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/109488 | 04:39 |
| asalkeld | elynn, are you and liusheng working together? | 04:40 |
| elynn | asalkeld, no... | 04:40 |
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| asalkeld | ok, as long as what both of you are doing is heading in a sensible direction | 04:41 |
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| elynn | he has a plan to switch to oslo.i18n? | 04:41 |
| asalkeld | Log translation hint for Heat.api | 04:41 |
| asalkeld | brb: picking kids up from school | 04:43 |
| elynn | ok, I will not do that part when switching to oslo.i18n, if his patches landed first, I will do rebase work. | 04:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/104975 | 06:01 |
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| rakesh_hs | Hi guys.. I have proposed an patch for defect fix (bug#: 1290565).. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107551/ | 06:16 |
| rakesh_hs | can you guys please review it | 06:16 |
| Dev_Jin | In HEAT::AutoScalingGroup how to give unique names to instances getting launched? By default it gives same name (from properties) | 06:16 |
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| Qiming | Dev_Jin, what do you mean by 'same name'? | 06:18 |
| Dev_Jin | Qiming .. e.g. type: OS::Nova::Server | 06:19 |
| Dev_Jin | properties: | 06:19 |
| Dev_Jin | name: Worker | 06:19 |
| Dev_Jin | all the instances come up with Woker.. how to make them say Worker1 Worker2… | 06:20 |
| Qiming | Dev_Jin, I see what you are talking about | 06:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.contrib https://review.openstack.org/109484 | 06:22 |
| Qiming | Dev_Jin, when I ignore the name property, Heat will automatically give them one | 06:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Replace str(err) with six.text_type in tests https://review.openstack.org/109502 | 06:23 |
| Qiming | Dev_Jin, tbh, I didn't try what will happen if 'name' is explicitly specified | 06:23 |
| Dev_Jin | Qiming is there anyway to have more control? | 06:24 |
| Qiming | Dev_Jin, not that I know of | 06:24 |
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| Dev_Jin | Qiming, thanks | 06:26 |
| Qiming | Dev_Jin, it sounds like something backed by a use case? Why are you referencing an individual member of the group? | 06:27 |
| Dev_Jin | Qiming.. well what’s happening is s/w configuration management identifies individual clients by hostnames.. but if all of them have same then it treats them as 1 | 06:28 |
| Qiming | Dev_Jin, if I'm understanding this correctly, each instance will have a dedicated SoftwareDepolyment resource. | 06:31 |
| Qiming | Qiming, unless you are referring to some other out-of-band configuration management tools? | 06:32 |
| Qiming | Dev_Jin, as I said, I have no idea what will happen if you have instance name explicitly specified. By default, each instance WILL get a different hostname. | 06:33 |
| Dev_Jin | Yes Qiming I am using out of band config management tool (like chef/puppet) … Anyways.. for now I can work with not specifying name in the property and let the openstack ensures uniquness | 06:33 |
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| Qiming | Dev_Jin, ahh, now I understand your question... | 06:34 |
| elynn | Hi guys, could anyone can review this patch and help it merge? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105101/ | 06:38 |
| Dev_Jin | Qiming.. some unrelated question.. I am bit strugling with how call heat stack create from python client (or curl) .. my real struggle is how to form payload of stack create call (which consists of template file + stack name info and parameters…) | 06:39 |
| Dev_Jin | is there something simple which I am missing ( I dont want to reinvent the wheel ) it works well with heat stack-create command.. but I want to do it programatically using python | 06:39 |
| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.common https://review.openstack.org/109506 | 06:39 |
| Qiming | Dev_Jin, and environments ... | 06:40 |
| Dev_Jin | Quming.. yes.. that’s correct | 06:40 |
| Dev_Jin | Qiming — typo | 06:40 |
| Qiming | Dev_Jin, my feeling is that you have quite some work to do before invoking the ReST API if you decide to do that, maybe I'm missing something as well | 06:44 |
| Dev_Jin | Qiming.. my experience tells the same.. I have spent good amount of time trying to read heat template file convert it into json format etc etc.. | 06:45 |
| Qiming | Dev_Jin, I hope you really have fun doing that | 06:46 |
| Dev_Jin | Qiming.. You bet [:) | 06:46 |
| Qiming | Dev_Jin, horizon file openstack_dashboard/dashboards/project/stacks/forms.py could be a good reference, :) | 06:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | lvdongbing proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Don't expose X-Auth-Token in heat CLI https://review.openstack.org/109234 | 07:06 |
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| Dev_Jin | Qiming.. I just had a quick pass.. it might be helpful.. let me dig dip now | 07:08 |
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| Qiming | Dev_Jin, at first glance, it is must simpler than Heat shell, because it is dealing with lesser options | 07:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Switch heat api to oslo i18n https://review.openstack.org/109479 | 07:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Import oslo.i18n and port heat bins to use oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/108924 | 07:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Switch heat engine to oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/109488 | 07:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Enable lazy translation on heat https://review.openstack.org/108917 | 07:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move UpdateReplace exception to exception.py https://review.openstack.org/109194 | 07:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Switch heat resources to oslo.i18n https://review.openstack.org/109510 | 07:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.engine https://review.openstack.org/109512 | 07:16 |
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| skraynev | Good Morning | 07:37 |
| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.tests https://review.openstack.org/109514 | 07:37 |
| tiantian | <skraynev>:hi | 07:40 |
| skraynev | hello tiantian | 07:40 |
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| tiantian | <skraynev>: this morning we talked about whether quota-api blueprint is needed, see the history :) I remember you said it's usesful for rally?for what? I don't know much about this, or I remember wrong | 07:44 |
| skraynev | tiantian: you mean IRC discussion or where? | 07:44 |
| skraynev | tiantian: It's really need for rally - you remember it correct :) It should be used for test case, when we try to create a lot of stacks for one tenant. | 07:46 |
| tiantian | <skraynev>: on july, in IRC | 07:47 |
| skraynev | tiantian: thx, I will look it later ;) | 07:48 |
| tiantian | <skraynev>: about the quota-api blueprint, no reviewer now, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96696/ and I don't know whether it's needed. It seems most core member thinking it's no need | 07:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove gettextutils from heat https://review.openstack.org/109517 | 07:52 |
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| elynn | Hi skraynev , do you have time to review this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109502/ | 07:56 |
| skraynev | tiantian: I understand your worries. Unfortunately, I had not time before to speak about it with other reviewers. | 07:56 |
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| skraynev | tiantian: I will ask zaneb about it. Let's see what he will say. | 07:57 |
| tiantian | <skraynev>: thanks very much:) | 07:57 |
| skraynev | tiantian: np | 07:58 |
| skraynev | elynn: thx, as soon as possibly. | 07:58 |
| elynn | skraynev, :) | 07:58 |
| therve | elynn, I have some troubles with your switch to oslo.i18n | 08:00 |
| therve | elynn, Why do you think the 2 libraries can coexist? | 08:01 |
| elynn | hi therve | 08:01 |
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| elynn | therve, I just wanna to make sure that every patch will not break unittests. | 08:02 |
| elynn | and I remove gettextuitls in patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109517/ | 08:03 |
| therve | Mokay | 08:04 |
| elynn | Split this patch into several patches just to benefit me, so I won't miss any place :) | 08:05 |
| elynn | therve, sorry I have to leave for a while, I have a meeting... | 08:06 |
| therve | Well it's nice to have smaller patches for sure | 08:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.api https://review.openstack.org/109487 | 08:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.contrib https://review.openstack.org/109484 | 08:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.common https://review.openstack.org/109506 | 08:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.engine https://review.openstack.org/109512 | 08:38 |
| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed a change to openstack/heat: Log translation hint for Heat.tests https://review.openstack.org/109514 | 08:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | xu-haiwei proposed a change to openstack/heat: Show correct error messages https://review.openstack.org/108603 | 09:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement BlockDeviceMappings for AWS::EC2::Instance https://review.openstack.org/103725 | 09:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Remove deprecated tools/README instructions https://review.openstack.org/109404 | 09:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexey Ivanitskiy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adding log messages to improve error handling https://review.openstack.org/109333 | 09:55 |
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| blinky_ghost | hi all, I'm testing OS::Heat::SoftwareDeployment function in a fedora instance I've created following this procedure: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot/software-config/elements. However when I launch the instance I get this error os-collect-config: (heat-config) [ERROR] No config file /var/run/heat-config/heat-config | 10:48 |
| blinky_ghost | [2014-07-25 10:49:53,861] (os-refresh-config) [ERROR] during configure phase. [Command '['dib-run-parts', '/opt/stack/os-config-refresh/configure.d']' returned non-zero exit status 1] | 10:48 |
| blinky_ghost | What am I missing? thanks | 10:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexey Ivanitskiy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adding log messages to improve error handling https://review.openstack.org/109333 | 11:07 |
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| therve | blinky_ghost, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108330/ I'd say | 11:19 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Rename os-config-applier to os-apply-config https://review.openstack.org/108330 | 11:19 |
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| blinky_ghost | therve: can you tell me if this patch is in merged in RDO already? | 11:26 |
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| therve | blinky_ghost, It's in heat-templates, so I don't think it gets in RDO at all | 11:27 |
| therve | You need to rebuild your image with those elements AFAIU | 11:27 |
| blinky_ghost | therve: but I've build my image yesterday, I've built it from a CentOS box. | 11:29 |
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| therve | blinky_ghost, The patch got merged 10 minutes ago | 11:30 |
| blinky_ghost | therve: :P | 11:30 |
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| blinky_ghost | therve: Sorry, I'm a moron :P | 11:30 |
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| blinky_ghost | therve: can you tell me if that elements will be available soon for Centos 6? | 11:33 |
| therve | blinky_ghost, No idea. Why is not available now? | 11:33 |
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| blinky_ghost | therve: stevebaker told me yesterday here that it was only available for Fedora | 11:34 |
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| therve | He would know better than me | 11:35 |
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| blinky_ghost | therve: ok thanks I'll rebuild the fedora image and try again :) | 11:36 |
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| unmeshg | therve: can you please revisit https://review.openstack.org/104471 | 11:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: SoftwareDeployments move signal reason into resource plugin https://review.openstack.org/106825 | 13:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add native WaitConditionHandle resource https://review.openstack.org/102888 | 13:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add template version for the provider template https://review.openstack.org/96999 | 13:34 |
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| therve | shardy, Hi, around? I have a question about native wait condition | 15:10 |
| shardy | therve: Hi | 15:11 |
| therve | shardy, So I wonder what's that token storage about :) | 15:12 |
| therve | Was it present in the original patch? | 15:12 |
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| shardy | therve: It's so we avoid requesting a new token every time the attribute is referenced | 15:12 |
| therve | shardy, Do we really want to do that? I thought the point of the stack user was being able to use regular authentication | 15:13 |
| therve | It seems using a token would have several shortcomings, expiration being the main one | 15:13 |
| shardy | therve: well the point is to avoid having a password in the instance, although we could optionally allow that later | 15:14 |
| shardy | therve: That's true, but it's designed for use-once signalling, where expiration is not really an issue | 15:14 |
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| shardy | for more complex scenarios, SoftwareDeployments should probably be used instead | 15:14 |
| shardy | happy to hear other ideas though ;) | 15:14 |
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| therve | Hum | 15:15 |
| shardy | I wanted to avoid the instance needing to talk to keystone to get a token, e.g so one-line signalling from cirros is possible | 15:15 |
| shardy | An alternative would be to enable signalling via python-heatclient using username/password, but that won't work for cirros | 15:15 |
| shardy | And cirros was my main use-case for this :) | 15:16 |
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| therve | Well requestion a token from keystone is just an additional request | 15:18 |
| therve | I guess you don't have replay problems with wait conditions, so that's one thing | 15:18 |
| therve | I can understand the need of convenience, I wish we'd be able to have the ability to use regular auth, which seems impossible with current implementation | 15:21 |
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| shardy | therve: what do you mean by "regular auth"? | 15:22 |
| shardy | It's using regular auth via a token via the native rest API? | 15:22 |
| therve | shardy, As the server stack user, signal the wait condition | 15:22 |
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| therve | Or does it work regardless? | 15:23 |
| shardy | That's exactly what the patch does | 15:23 |
| shardy | only using a stack-domain user identity | 15:23 |
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| shardy | as you don't want to put the actual stack owner's token in the instance | 15:23 |
| therve | Yeah but it's creating a new one? | 15:23 |
| shardy | They can dignal using their credentials via heat resource-signal too if they wish | 15:24 |
| shardy | Yeah, like all SignalResponder resources do | 15:24 |
| shardy | We could optimise in future to only have one per stack I guess | 15:24 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: hey, you about? | 15:24 |
| therve | shardy, I guess my question is: Can I signal that resource using another stack user | 15:24 |
| shardy | but eg. SoftwareDeployments (and the AWS WaitConditionHandle) do the exact same thing, just using different credentials | 15:25 |
| shardy | therve: Yes | 15:25 |
| therve | Okay that's what I misunderstand then :) | 15:25 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: hey | 15:25 |
| shardy | therve: Ok, cool :) | 15:25 |
| therve | Presumably we could have a property to control whether creating a user or not | 15:26 |
| shardy | therve: Yeah, we could add that later if folks need it, but then where would the user get created? | 15:26 |
| shardy | Have a OS::Heat::StackUser resource? | 15:26 |
| therve | shardy, In the server that uses it? | 15:26 |
| shardy | therve: Ok, so like SoftwareDeployments work for polling | 15:27 |
| shardy | therve: sure, we can do that later if needed | 15:27 |
| therve | It's just a small optimization I suppose | 15:27 |
| * shardy is in a meeting and needs to go for a bit | 15:27 | |
| therve | Cheers, thanks for the answers | 15:27 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: I'm rejigging create-retry on your refactor, but I have some inline comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102397/ | 15:28 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: I'm heading to the airport soon, we may have time to discuss the options | 15:29 |
| zaneb | ok, looking | 15:29 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: I see what you mean about creating events for the failing create/delete | 15:33 |
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| stevebaker | yup | 15:33 |
| zaneb | that does make things tricky if we want to do that :/ | 15:33 |
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| stevebaker | I can just put with self._action_recorder(action): inside the loop? | 15:34 |
| zaneb | the other option is to move the retry loop outside of _do_action altogether | 15:34 |
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| zaneb | you could, but as soon as the loop goes outside action_recorder, it changes your exception handling | 15:35 |
| stevebaker | right now this only seems to make sense for create | 15:36 |
| zaneb | you'd have to look at the ResourceException to see what type of exception triggered it | 15:36 |
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| stevebaker | maybe I should just move this to create() | 15:36 |
| zaneb | yeah, I would support that | 15:37 |
| zaneb | even better would be to spin it out as a separate context manager or something, but that will be quite intricate work and YAGNI for now | 15:37 |
| stevebaker | don't make me think, its been a big week ;) | 15:38 |
| zaneb | lol | 15:38 |
| zaneb | put it in create() | 15:38 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: and how about my point about the backoff applying to deletes too? | 15:39 |
| zaneb | I think that resolves the dependency issue between our patches too :) | 15:39 |
| stevebaker | \o/ | 15:39 |
| zaneb | I think in my implementation the backoff increases, but only if the delete fails | 15:40 |
| zaneb | I believe that's what we want? | 15:40 |
| stevebaker | that seems appropriate | 15:40 |
| zaneb | arguably we should reign in the backoff (but keep the jitter) when a delete succeeds | 15:42 |
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| zaneb | rein | 15:42 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: ok, I've got something to hack on the plane now | 16:01 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: hacks on a plane | 16:01 |
| zaneb | lol | 16:01 |
| SpamapS | I'm tired of these monkey fightin hacks, on this monday friday plane! | 16:01 |
| stevebaker | yus | 16:02 |
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| zaneb | it's times like these I wish we had an IRC greatest hits wiki pages of quotes | 16:02 |
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| randallburt | I'm sick of all these m-effing patches on this m-effing plane!!! | 16:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Randall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement barbican client plugin https://review.openstack.org/98684 | 16:04 |
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| blinky_ghost | therve: I've rebuilt my fedora image and now I'm getting this message: WARNING os_collect_config.heat [-] No auth_url configured. WARNING os-collect-config [-] Source [heat] Unavailable. WARNING os_collect_config.cfn [-] 500 Server Error: Internal Server Error | 16:14 |
| blinky_ghost | any hint? | 16:14 |
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| ryansb | can someone take a peek at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108399/ for me? It's a pretty trivial delete-old-stuff change. | 16:21 |
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| zaneb | ryansb: found a typo | 16:31 |
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| ryansb | thanks zaneb, will re-submit | 16:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryan Brown proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove rst2script.sed and integration.sh https://review.openstack.org/108399 | 16:40 |
| ryansb | zaneb: fixed ^ | 16:40 |
| zaneb | +2 | 16:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Randall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Only support client plugins https://review.openstack.org/98688 | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Sergeyev proposed a change to openstack/heat: WIP: fix migrations https://review.openstack.org/109658 | 17:00 |
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| stevebaker | so we appear to have come full circle, and heat functional tests are heading back to the heat tree | 17:13 |
| SpamapS | wtf? | 17:14 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: how so? | 17:14 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: see thread [openstack-dev] Thoughts on the patch test failure rate and moving forward | 17:15 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: I'm going to assume it won't be too hard to forklift the tempest orchestration scenario tests into heat and remove the tempest dependencies | 17:15 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: Oh I didn't see that was how things were going. I think it's good actually. Heat's problems shouldn't be Cinder's problem. | 17:19 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: yeah, the extra work is a pain but it will be good | 17:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | William C. Arnold proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implements stack lifecycle plugpoints https://review.openstack.org/89363 | 18:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS::Ironic::Port resource https://review.openstack.org/104224 | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS::Ironic::Node resource https://review.openstack.org/104223 | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Ironic resource base class https://review.openstack.org/104222 | 18:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add OS::Ironic::Chassis resource https://review.openstack.org/103133 | 18:26 |
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| jpeeler | zaneb: i guess you pretty much did this last week? https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1336072 | 18:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1336072 in heat "Purge remaining CFN functions in HOT" [Undecided,New] | 18:27 |
| zaneb | I guess I did :) | 18:27 |
| zaneb | except for Fn::Select | 18:27 |
| zaneb | maybe leave a comment to that effect and target it to j-3 with high priority | 18:29 |
| jpeeler | i'll take it if that's cool | 18:29 |
| zaneb | that's fine, but to help out TripleO we don't want to remove Fn::Select until late in the Juno cycle | 18:30 |
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| jpeeler | ah well okay | 18:31 |
| zaneb | that's the only reason I left it in for now | 18:31 |
| zaneb | you can submit a patch and -1 the workflow (i.e. make it WIP) if you want | 18:32 |
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| jpeeler | cody-somerville: whatever happened with this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1226287 | 19:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1226287 in oslo "Unable to prevent heat from logging to stdout without all heat proccesses logging to the same file" [Medium,Fix released] | 19:18 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: should I be decorating create() with @scheduler.wrappertask? | 19:57 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: yes, you'll probably have to | 19:57 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: and yeild _do_action instead of return its result? | 19:58 |
| zaneb | exactly | 19:58 |
| stevebaker | k, thx | 19:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: timeutils function retry_backoff_delay https://review.openstack.org/108477 | 20:30 |
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| uberj | stevebaker: the SoftwareConfig/SoftwareDeploy pattern is quite elegant! | 22:30 |
| uberj | thanks for mentioning it | 22:31 |
| uberj | I SoftwareConfig resource needs to define its type (i.e. OS::Heat::SoftwareConfig::Chef) and a SoftwareDeploy resource needs to also define its type. If a SD is responsible for simply instantiating a SC instance (who already has an underlying type), why does a SD need a type? | 22:53 |
| uberj | !s/^I/If/ | 22:53 |
| openstack | uberj: Error: "s/^I/If/" is not a valid command. | 22:53 |
| uberj | openstack: worst.sed.bot.ever | 22:53 |
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