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| tiantian | stevebaker: would you please to review/approve the patch again: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100804/ thanks | 01:27 |
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| stevebaker | tiantian: approved. You might want to try Amazon and see if volume tags are actually updatable without replacement. Their docs could be wrong | 01:35 |
| tiantian | <stevebaker>: ok, I will try this :) | 01:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Events pagination and sorting Specification https://review.openstack.org/101133 | 01:41 |
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| tiantian | <stevebaker>:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101125/ could you have a look, about show the physical_resource_id in resource-list command, user perhaps want to know the physical resource id such as instance_id, volume_id | 01:45 |
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| stevebaker | tiantian: some crazy people parse the pretty-table outputs of openstack commands, that change would break their scripts. I'm not sure what to do about that. Either abandon the change or move physical_resource_id to the end. Both options are not that nice | 01:48 |
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| tiantian | <stevebaker>: I commit this patch, because I create a resource_group with some instances, but I couldn't know the ids of instances when run resource-list, but the response of heat the physical_resource_id is returned, so why not to show these? | 01:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhang Yang proposed a change to openstack/heat-specs: Specification for filtering stacks by status for cfn API https://review.openstack.org/101140 | 02:18 |
| elynn | morning all :) | 02:19 |
| stevebaker | higgins: | 02:19 |
| stevebaker | hi! | 02:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Only support client plugins https://review.openstack.org/98688 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Glance, swift use ignore_not_found() https://review.openstack.org/100424 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement keystone client plugin https://review.openstack.org/97985 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement heat client plugin https://review.openstack.org/97984 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Client plugin exception handling methods https://review.openstack.org/100421 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move network constraint to neutron plugin https://review.openstack.org/100420 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Neutron use ignore_not_found() https://review.openstack.org/100423 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Nova use ignore_not_found() https://review.openstack.org/100422 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move nova_utils functions to nova client plugin https://review.openstack.org/101782 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Store clients in context https://review.openstack.org/98935 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Move glance_utils functions to glance client plugin https://review.openstack.org/100419 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove function get_software_config https://review.openstack.org/101396 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Cinder, trove, ceilo use ignore_not_found() https://review.openstack.org/101397 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement barbican client plugin https://review.openstack.org/98684 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove unused rackspace clients imports https://review.openstack.org/98685 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use config region_name_for_services for rackspace clients https://review.openstack.org/98686 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Port rackspace clients to client plugins https://review.openstack.org/98687 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Deprecate direct access to clients methods https://review.openstack.org/97973 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make heat.engine.clients a package https://review.openstack.org/97974 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Base class for client plugins https://review.openstack.org/97975 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement marconi client plugin https://review.openstack.org/98683 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Initialise client plugins https://review.openstack.org/97976 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement nova client plugin https://review.openstack.org/97977 | 02:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement swift client plugin https://review.openstack.org/97978 | 02:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement glance client plugin https://review.openstack.org/97979 | 02:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement neutron client plugin https://review.openstack.org/97980 | 02:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement cinder client plugin https://review.openstack.org/97981 | 02:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement trove client plugin https://review.openstack.org/97982 | 02:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement ceilometer client plugin https://review.openstack.org/97983 | 02:47 |
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| tiantian | <stevebaker>:I have modify this according your comment:) review again:) thanks https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101133/ | 03:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Instructions on image creation for SoftwareConfig. https://review.openstack.org/99859 | 04:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Make some properties updatable for Volume resource https://review.openstack.org/100804 | 04:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Order intrinsic function docs alphabetically https://review.openstack.org/102717 | 04:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: HOT intrinisic function list_join like Fn::Join https://review.openstack.org/102718 | 04:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Re-organise top-level template guide structure https://review.openstack.org/102721 | 05:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Exceptions ResourceInError, ResourceUnknownStatus https://review.openstack.org/102394 | 05:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/heat: Retry resource create until success https://review.openstack.org/102397 | 05:17 |
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| Qiming | stevebaker, are you around? | 05:21 |
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| therve | 'morning! | 05:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/89750 | 06:03 |
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| skraynev | good day | 07:14 |
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| cmyster | shardy: there ? | 07:24 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker, could you please post comment about mentioned nit for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72336/ | 07:33 |
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| tspatzier | stevebaker: you're around? | 07:46 |
| cmyster | tspatzier: I doubt it at this time | 07:47 |
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| cmyster | its 19:47 there I think | 07:47 |
| tspatzier | cmyster: yeah, probably. But you never know - I've seen him at strange times ;) | 07:48 |
| tspatzier | Is anyone working with SoftwareConfig at the moment? | 07:48 |
| cmyster | < | 07:49 |
| cmyster | well working as in trying to make the tempest devs happy with my tests | 07:49 |
| tspatzier | Ah, good. | 07:49 |
| cmyster | tspatzier: just ask, someone might surprise you | 07:50 |
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| tspatzier | So i am running with current Heat master and build a fedora image for software config with diskimage-builder just yesterday. And I am getting an error "os_collect_config.heat [-] No auth_url configured" | 07:50 |
| tspatzier | Cannot remember to have seen this a few weeks ago. | 07:51 |
| Qiming | tspatzier, we are looking into this as well ... | 07:51 |
| cmyster | there is an issue with diskimage and rhel7... I think it might be the same-ish issue | 07:51 |
| tspatzier | The strange thing is that some simple templates still seem to work (e.g. example-deploy-sequence from heat-templates) and others (e.g. wordpress) don't work. | 07:52 |
| tspatzier | cmyster: so giving it a try with ubuntu might be worthwhile? | 07:52 |
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| tspatzier | Qiming: good to hear :) Keep me posted! | 07:53 |
| Qiming | tspatzier, did you configure the software_config_transport ? | 07:53 |
| cmyster | I havn't tested diskimage at all I'm afraid | 07:53 |
| Qiming | if you configure software_config_transport to POLL_SERVER_HEAT, it seems things won't work | 07:53 |
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| tspatzier | Qiming: I used the default, which I think is cfn. Are you using heat transport? | 07:53 |
| Qiming | I'm getting the same message as you if I'm doing that. | 07:53 |
| Qiming | tspatzier, yes, we are trying heat transport, but got no luck so far ... | 07:54 |
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| Qiming | tspatzier, in your instance, do you see heat.py under this directory? /opt/stack/venvs/os-collect-config/lib/python2.7/site-packages/os_collect_config | 07:57 |
| tspatzier | Qiming: yes | 07:59 |
| Qiming | that file is not working, I think | 07:59 |
| Qiming | tspatzier, in the end, the parameters required by heat.py should come from /etc/os-collect-config.conf | 08:01 |
| Qiming | ? | 08:02 |
| tspatzier | Qiming: ok, so that config file is not prepared correctly. Is there something out of synch between the os-* tools and heat? | 08:02 |
| Qiming | I'm not quite sure | 08:03 |
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| Qiming | I'm doubting the tripleo elements need an update | 08:03 |
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| Qiming | so that /opt/stack/os-config-applier/templates/etc/os-collect-config.conf will contain a section [heat] that provides 'auth_url', and other options | 08:04 |
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| Qiming | I'm a little bit confused at the moment, which tool created and populated the first /etc/os-collect-config.conf file? | 08:05 |
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| gnstack | Hi Everyone! | 08:06 |
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| gnstack | I would like to know if heat can be used to deploy windows servers clusters with database clusters in it? | 08:07 |
| gnstack | in openstack of course.Is there also a need for clustering in openstack, since it is already HA? | 08:07 |
| shardy | tspatzier: It's possible this could be related to this: | 08:09 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat/commit/a6a4920b8d68a29c7546a41b922be1612c1f6895 | 08:09 |
| shardy | Can you try reverting that patch and see if the problem is solved please? | 08:09 |
| shardy | I think maybe the SoftwareDeployment is relying on the context auth_url, when it should get it from clients.keystone().auth_ref instead | 08:09 |
| shardy | or rather, from the service catalog, not via the context | 08:09 |
| shardy | Oh. Hmm. It's not using the context | 08:11 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/software_config/software_deployment.py#L323 | 08:11 |
| Qiming | shardy, https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-collect-config/tree/os_collect_config/heat.py#n50 | 08:12 |
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| tspatzier | shardy: I am using signal transport cfn | 08:13 |
| Qiming | my suspicion is that the 'heat' collector hasn't yet tried to do authentication | 08:13 |
| shardy | Qiming: Ah, OK - I was just getting paranoid I broke it with my recent heat_keystoneclient changes ;) | 08:13 |
| Qiming | tspatzier, if you are using CFN transport, the error message won't affect you actually | 08:13 |
| tspatzier | hm, would still be strange | 08:14 |
| Qiming | tspatzier, yes, if you have explicitly specified software_config_transport to be POLL_SERVER_HEAT, then you are trapped | 08:15 |
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| pas-ha | morning all | 08:47 |
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| shardy | therve: Are you ready for the oslo.messaging patch to go in? | 09:03 |
| shardy | therve: check jobs have passed and stevebaker's +2'd so I'm ready to approve | 09:04 |
| shardy | If anyone else wants to review, now is the time ;) | 09:04 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99648/ | 09:04 |
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| tiantian | hi all, would you please to review the spec : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102139/ thanks | 09:11 |
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| shardy | tiantian: I had a couple of minor comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101133/ | 09:11 |
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| shardy | If you can fix those I'll +2 it, thanks! | 09:11 |
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| tiantian | shardy: glad to do it, thanks | 09:14 |
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| tiantian | shardy: about the tempest, just need to write the scenario or both(scenario and api orchestration)? | 09:17 |
| tiantian | shardy: I think the two need add | 09:18 |
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| tiantian | shardy : Done | 09:24 |
| therve | shardy, Yes please do! | 09:24 |
| therve | 1 rebase and 2 rechecks later | 09:24 |
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| Qiming | hi, where is the place to report bugs to tripleo-image-elements ? | 09:25 |
| sy01 | After autoscaling, ceilometer meters are not getting attached to the newly spawned VM ? | 09:26 |
| sy01 | cpu-util is not getting attached to the new vm | 09:26 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: Hi, Are you around ? | 09:27 |
| asalkeld | hi sy01 | 09:27 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: Hello | 09:27 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: I am tetsing autoscaling, After scaling up, cpu_util meter is not getting attached to the newly spawned VM ? | 09:28 |
| asalkeld | it should apply metadata to the server | 09:28 |
| asalkeld | so that it is included in the query | 09:29 |
| asalkeld | maybe that is not happening? | 09:29 |
| shardy | tiantian: as it involves python-heatclient changes, I'd say add it to a scenario test, or create a new one, but yes we could do both | 09:29 |
| asalkeld | (I haven't tested this in _ages_) | 09:29 |
| therve | sy01, What's your template? | 09:30 |
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| tiantian | shardy: thanks, and hope you to review the spec about implement bdm for ec2 instance : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102139/ | 09:33 |
| tiantian | If anyone else wants to review, welcome:) | 09:34 |
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| shardy | tiantian: content looks OK, there are some formatting issues | 09:37 |
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| sy01 | Sorry folks, my router crashed. | 09:40 |
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| asalkeld | sy01, https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/autoscaling.py#L261-L272 | 09:42 |
| asalkeld | make sure that is happening ^ | 09:42 |
| sy01 | therve: Here is the relevant part of the template http://paste.openstack.org/show/84953/ | 09:42 |
| tiantian | shardy: Yes, the formatting is bad :(, I will modify soon for both specs | 09:43 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: matching_metadata: {'metadata.user_metadata.groupname': {get_resource: web_server_group}} | 09:44 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: this should do it , right ? | 09:44 |
| asalkeld | I think so | 09:44 |
| sy01 | If you look at my template here, I have mentioned it http://paste.openstack.org/show/84953/ | 09:44 |
| sy01 | therve: http://paste.openstack.org/show/84953/ | 09:46 |
| shardy | therve, tspatzier: convergence spec looks ready to me, held off approval so we can get a few more cores feedback: | 09:47 |
| shardy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/95907/ | 09:47 |
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| Qiming | tspatzier, jsut submitted a patch to tripleo, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102784/1 | 09:53 |
| Qiming | hope this can help at least debugging any existing issues | 09:53 |
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| sy01 | asalkeld: After scaling up to 3 instances from 1 instance. If I scale down, Heat deletes the "original instance" and stack does not scale down further to delete the VM spawned by autoscaling policy. | 09:54 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: And there are no cpu_utils meter attached to these VMs | 09:55 |
| asalkeld | sy01, what do you mean by "attached" | 09:55 |
| asalkeld | are you using ceilometer or cwlite? | 09:56 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: Ceilometer | 09:56 |
| asalkeld | the stats should have metadata that shows it belongs to the group | 09:56 |
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| asalkeld | you should be able to query the metadata of the server to see if it is there | 09:57 |
| asalkeld | can't remember the command | 09:57 |
| asalkeld | nova -h | 09:57 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: I mean if i query ceilometer to see the list of meters for the instance, then there is no cpu_util meter. | 09:57 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: Do i have to pass some specific metadata parameters in the ceilometer alarm definition | 09:58 |
| asalkeld | ok, well that is weird | 09:58 |
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| asalkeld | how long are you waiting for the meter to arive? | 09:58 |
| sy01 | 4 minutes | 09:58 |
| sy01 | i have cooldown period of 60 seconds | 09:59 |
| asalkeld | look in /etc/ceilometer/* | 09:59 |
| asalkeld | for the period | 09:59 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: you mean evaluation_period | 10:00 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: I did not change it, its default | 10:00 |
| asalkeld | it's been a while | 10:00 |
| asalkeld | what is the value? | 10:00 |
| asalkeld | it should be 60s I think | 10:01 |
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| sy01 | there is no period option, but there is a "#evaluation_interval=60" option | 10:06 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: there is no period option, but there is a "#evaluation_interval=60" option, Is this the one you were thinking of | 10:06 |
| asalkeld | probably | 10:07 |
| asalkeld | you should be getting the meter from ceilometer | 10:07 |
| asalkeld | if you are not then heat cant' do much | 10:07 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: yes, thats the problem, autoscaled vm is not getting the meter from ceilometer | 10:08 |
| asalkeld | so nova should be sending it | 10:08 |
| asalkeld | ceilometer just stores it | 10:08 |
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| sy01 | asalkeld: Any pointers, where should i look to fix this | 10:11 |
| tspatzier | shardy: I have blocked some time in my calendar to review the specs. So I'll add my comments soon - might be early next week but in time for the next IRC meeting. | 10:12 |
| tiantian | <shardy>: done for both specs, thanks for review again | 10:12 |
| asalkeld | if you start a "normal" server outside of heat, do you get cpu_utils | 10:12 |
| asalkeld | sy01, ^ | 10:12 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: Yes | 10:13 |
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| sy01 | asalkeld: The meter is not coming up only for the autoscaling group vm's | 10:13 |
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| asalkeld | I really find that odd, as nova should not care | 10:14 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: As soon as the alarm is trigerred, and a new vm say "alice" spawns | 10:15 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: then "alice" will not have the cpu_util meter | 10:15 |
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| sy01 | asalkeld: And since my alarms are based on cpu_util meter, further autoscaling is not possible. | 10:15 |
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| asalkeld | how are you querying the ceilometer meters? | 10:18 |
| asalkeld | are you using the nova resource_id | 10:18 |
| tiantian | bye all:) | 10:20 |
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| sy01 | ceilometer statistics -m cpu_util -q "resource_id=$instance_id" | 10:22 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: ceilometer statistics -m cpu_util -q "resource_id=$instance_id" | 10:22 |
| asalkeld | perfect | 10:22 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: Yes, the nova server id | 10:22 |
| asalkeld | sy01, check your ceilo config for; | 10:22 |
| asalkeld | interval: 600 | 10:22 |
| sy01 | interval is 60 | 10:22 |
| asalkeld | change | 10:22 |
| asalkeld | cool | 10:23 |
| sy01 | asalkeld: Even i waited for 15 mins to check it, but no luck | 10:24 |
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| asalkeld | sy01, at this point I'd put some debug in nova | 10:24 |
| asalkeld | actually ceilometer might be the best start point | 10:24 |
| asalkeld | in that pipeline | 10:25 |
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| asalkeld | sy01, https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/compute/pollsters/cpu.py | 10:25 |
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| asalkeld | it does a LOG.debug() | 10:26 |
| asalkeld | turn on ceilometer debug | 10:26 |
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| tspatzier | shardy: btw, I'm still working on the property validation stuff to only do validation when needed. I think the real code itself should be fine, but I have to do a lot of updates in test cases. | 10:45 |
| tspatzier | basically because many test against old assumptions that property validation hits with each get on an attribute. | 10:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Guaranteed password complexity using OS::Heat::RandomString https://review.openstack.org/101634 | 14:05 |
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| SpamapS | o/ | 14:57 |
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| Qiming | SpamapS: can you please help review this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102784/ | 15:24 |
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| SpamapS | Qiming: looking now | 15:32 |
| Qiming | SpamapS, thanks. Still trying to figure out how the first /etc/os-collect-config.conf is populated now, so I'm really not sure I'm fixking or breaking things, :P | 15:33 |
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| SpamapS | Qiming: good work. +2'd | 15:35 |
| Qiming | Thanks, SpamapS. Will double check tomorrow if this is actually fixing the 'heat' collector. | 15:36 |
| SpamapS | Qiming: the first one is populated in the image build | 15:36 |
| Qiming | ahh, I was not so sure about it | 15:37 |
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| SpamapS | Qiming: we actually need to start setting the collector list in that config so that we don't even try heat/cfn until we've configured them. | 15:38 |
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| Qiming | so without cfn or heat credentials at the very beginning, when the instance is launched, how is it getting the metadata? | 15:39 |
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| Qiming | through ec2? (169.254.169.254) ? | 15:39 |
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| SpamapS | Qiming: ec2 metadata | 15:39 |
| SpamapS | Qiming: actually heat_local | 15:39 |
| Qiming | heat_local is stealing info from cfninit, :) | 15:39 |
| SpamapS | Qiming: so heat_local is populated when Heat writes /var/lib/heat-cfntools/cfn-init-data via cloud-init | 15:39 |
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| SpamapS | Qiming: thats why we moved it to /var/lib/heat-cfntools | 15:40 |
| Qiming | I see. | 15:40 |
| SpamapS | Qiming: so it's not cfn-init's, it is Heat's. | 15:40 |
| Qiming | thanks for the explanation. | 15:40 |
| Qiming | anyway, cloud-init will be functioning, that is how the whole chain/loop gets started, right? | 15:41 |
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| shakamunyi | bandarji hey there | 16:06 |
| shakamunyi | bandarji how are things | 16:06 |
| shakamunyi | bandarji let me know if you have what you wanted re: NFV | 16:06 |
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| bandarji | shakamunyi, things here are quite busy | 16:20 |
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| shakamunyi | bandarji got it | 16:22 |
| shakamunyi | bandarji would it make sense for me to drop in next week or week following? | 16:23 |
| bandarji | I'll be traveling next week | 16:23 |
| bandarji | maybe we should chat the week thereafter | 16:23 |
| randallburt | anybody know if the magic script for specs should be updating blueprints in launchpad when they're merged? | 16:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-specs: Encrypt hidden template parameters specification https://review.openstack.org/100343 | 16:29 |
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| shardy | randallburt: last time I asked it wasn't working yet | 16:37 |
| shardy | (few days ago) | 16:37 |
| randallburt | shardy: k. so we should manually update the bps in launchpad? | 16:37 |
| zaneb | randallburt: yes, please update manually | 16:38 |
| shardy | randallburt: atm that's my understanding, yes | 16:38 |
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| randallburt | zaneb, shardy cool. will do and thanks | 16:38 |
| zaneb | for now I think we will have to manage blueprints in both places | 16:38 |
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| zaneb | which is disappointing, because I wanted the specs repo partly to displace launchpad | 16:38 |
| randallburt | zaneb: stevebaker was asking last night, do you want reserve the +A on the specs? | 16:39 |
| randallburt | zaneb: agreed. I think lots of projects were hoping that. | 16:39 |
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| zaneb | randallburt: no, that sounds like too much work ;) | 16:39 |
| randallburt | zaneb: indeed :D | 16:39 |
| zaneb | my goal as PTL is to make sure that the PTL does *not* become the single point of failure :) | 16:40 |
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| zaneb | but perhaps we should aim for more than 2 +2s | 16:40 |
| shardy | I'd suggest the normal 2*+2/A process, unless it's a big/contentious change, in which case folks can use their judgement and leave it a while for consensus with multiple +2's | 16:40 |
| shardy | zaneb: I'd suggest there should have been more than 2*+2's, e.g reasonably wide review feedback, but not necessarily all on the final patch | 16:41 |
| shardy | due to all the cosmetic/minor churn that happens | 16:41 |
| shardy | my £.02 ;) | 16:41 |
| zaneb | yeah, I'd say aim for consensus and use whatever heuristics necessary to judge when that has happened | 16:41 |
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| shardy | My fear if we make it too longwinded is folks will delay working on code waiting for the "yes do it" signal of an approved spec | 16:45 |
| therve | zaneb, We had a few topics related to specs in yesterday meeting BTW | 16:46 |
| zaneb | thanks therve, I will check out the logs at some point | 16:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor service readiness notification https://review.openstack.org/92456 | 16:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Convert WaitConditionHandle to use handle_signal https://review.openstack.org/101351 | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: heat_keystoneclient add get_user_token https://review.openstack.org/102885 | 16:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: clients make heat_url public https://review.openstack.org/102886 | 16:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: stack user add _user_token https://review.openstack.org/102887 | 16:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add native WaitConditionHandle resource https://review.openstack.org/102888 | 16:56 |
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| ckmvishnu | Is it right to base stack pagination UTs assuming on total stack count when heatclient cannot get one? | 17:28 |
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| bodepd | why does get-file expect a directory and not a file | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | eh | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | it doesn't? | 19:22 |
| SpamapS | bodepd: you mean get_file in the template language, or something else? | 19:23 |
| bodepd | SpamapS: https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/hot/functions.py#L186 | 19:23 |
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| bodepd | I was trying to use it to allow a user to specify a filename to convert into metadata, but I guess the user would need to pass in . and then have file/file_to_convert_to_metadata | 19:25 |
| bodepd | or am I confused? | 19:25 |
| SpamapS | bodepd: yes you're confused | 19:26 |
| SpamapS | bodepd: the client will actually traverse the template and if it sees get_file, will send the file(s) along with the request. | 19:27 |
| zaneb | bodepd: dictionary != directory | 19:27 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: oh you're here. Confirmed for the meetup in August. | 19:27 |
| zaneb | SpamapS: yay! :) | 19:27 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: and looks like at least 1 from Bangalore, hopefully 2. | 19:27 |
| zaneb | eeeexcellent | 19:27 |
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| zaneb | looking forward to it | 19:28 |
| * SpamapS was just about to alt-tab and send that as email :) | 19:28 | |
| * zaneb is also looking forward to spending the week of the TripleO meetup at the beach | 19:28 | |
| SpamapS | nice | 19:29 |
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| zaneb | I'll still be working | 19:31 |
| zaneb | just at the beach :) | 19:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix early resource property value validation https://review.openstack.org/93080 | 19:34 |
| bodepd | I don't see any other reference that explains how to pass the files dictionary to heat | 19:38 |
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| tango | zaneb: Hi Zane, been looking for you | 19:49 |
| zaneb | tango: hey, sorry I was out of the office for a few days | 19:49 |
| zaneb | bodepd: if you're using python-heatclient, it will grab them for you automatically | 19:49 |
| tango | So I finished rewriting https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/troubleshooting-low-level-control per our discussion | 19:49 |
| tango | wonder if you can take a look to see if it's good enough to move forward | 19:50 |
| openstackgerrit | David J Hu proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add keystone v3 auth support https://review.openstack.org/92728 | 19:51 |
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| zaneb | tango: thanks! looks good, I changed the definition to approved :) | 19:53 |
| tango | Great, thanks, I will start uploading patches | 19:53 |
| zaneb | tango: do you think that will be in for juno-2? I will set a milestone target for you | 19:54 |
| bodepd | zaneb: I only see -f and -e and they both seem to want some special kind of stuctured data | 19:54 |
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| tango | I will have patches ready for j2, but not sure how long the reviews will take | 19:55 |
| tango | zaneb: BTW, we still need SpamapS: patches for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/retry-failed-update to be able to retry failed stack | 19:56 |
| zaneb | bodepd: I believe that python-heatclient will read your template, retrieve any files referenced with get_file and include them | 19:56 |
| tango | otherwise Heat does not allow update to failed stack | 19:56 |
| SpamapS | tango: indeed, the bp isn't finished, but some of the hard work is. | 19:58 |
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| tango | SpamapS: I am taking your current patch to test my new code | 19:59 |
| bodepd | zaneb: I have a feeling I'm trying to use the feature incorrectly. Here's an example of what I'm trying to do: https://gist.github.com/bodepd/55ba54057a3d46bd4521 | 19:59 |
| SpamapS | tango: cool! | 19:59 |
| * SpamapS decides it has been too long since doing a review binge | 19:59 | |
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| bodepd | zaneb: with a similar example, I get: https://gist.github.com/bodepd/5e29104c82cd999cfbaf | 20:01 |
| zaneb | bodepd: aha! you're missing a : after get_file for a start. but yeah, using a non-fixed filename makes it impossible for python-heatclient to automatically do the Right Thing for you | 20:01 |
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| bodepd | zaneb: snap! thanks for taking a look. I'm having fun poking heat with a stick today. | 20:03 |
| bodepd | zaneb: is there a best way to pass files in? (and is metadata even a reasonabe place to keep secrets?) | 20:04 |
| bodepd | s/files/input files/ | 20:04 |
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| zaneb | it's not a _great_ place to keep secrets. it will end up stored in plaintext in a number of places (Heat DB, Nova metadata server) | 20:08 |
| zaneb | but it's not the worst | 20:08 |
| zaneb | you just have to decide how secure you want your secrets to be | 20:08 |
| bodepd | yeah, for now I'm just playing. It looks like heat will integrate with barbican by the time that I really care | 20:08 |
| stevebaker | good morning | 20:09 |
| bodepd | and I guess it looks like people are trying to figure out a better way :) | 20:09 |
| zaneb | bodepd: yeah, barbican will be the official way to do it at some point | 20:09 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: I would like to draw your attention to this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102397/ | 20:09 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: do we have a way to manually add files to upload in python-heatclient? | 20:10 |
| bodepd | zaneb: does it make sense to open a ticket for ensuring that heatclient resolves get_param for figuring out what files to upload? I saw that code is in the engine, so I'm not sure it fits into the overall design of heat? | 20:10 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: other than get_file? | 20:10 |
| bodepd | stevebaker: my previous message explains the issue that I am running into | 20:11 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: other than inferring automatically from get_file. bodepd is using get_param to specify the filename | 20:11 |
| zaneb | bodepd: I don't think we're ever going to want to implement complete parsing of templates in the client | 20:12 |
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| stevebaker | we're doing partial parsing now, looking for get_file and types with filenames | 20:13 |
| stevebaker | bodepd: if you document your use case I'm sure it could be implemented | 20:13 |
| bodepd | stevebaker: sure. I'll open a ticket | 20:13 |
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| bodepd | stevebaker: I'm not opposed to givig the patch a try | 20:14 |
| stevebaker | bodepd: go for it | 20:14 |
| bodepd | stevebaker: /me starts reading heatclient code | 20:14 |
| zaneb | yeah, and that is OK with me. but parsing the whole template seems like a bad idea. template formats are pluggable on the server, but the client should work everywhere | 20:14 |
| bodepd | zaneb: yeah, that is kind of my concern is that I work on a patch and it winds up not fitting in with the overall design | 20:14 |
| SpamapS | a good argument could be made to require some kind of special notation for client-side functions like get_file | 20:15 |
| SpamapS | like it should be client_side_get_file or @get_file | 20:15 |
| zaneb | I think we should treat the automatic inference as a handy feature that makes it easier when you template happens to be in HOT format, but also allow files to be manually specified | 20:15 |
| stevebaker | bodepd: so you want to be able to specify the contents of a file to be the value of a param? | 20:15 |
| bodepd | I can share the entire template I'm working on | 20:16 |
| zaneb | SpamapS: it's trickier than that though - the function is resolved server-side, but the client uses it to infer which extra files to upload | 20:16 |
| bodepd | basically, I want to pass in an entire file as a user argumemnt | 20:16 |
| bodepd | I can get more into the specifics | 20:16 |
| bodepd | I'm trying to write in a generic Puppet template where all user data is passed as a hiera override file | 20:17 |
| bodepd | (not sure if that makes sense to anyone :) ) | 20:17 |
| SpamapS | zaneb: indeed, Im suggesting we shouldn't allow client side inspection unless the @ is there.. client_side_ is just something that popped in my brain. | 20:17 |
| SpamapS | bodepd: I've suggested before there should be a "file" type of parameter that just uploads the file to swift and passes the URL as the value. | 20:18 |
| bodepd | SpamapS: when I first envisions this feature, that is the first thing I looked for in the docs | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | bodepd: until then, you're talking about 2 steps instead of 1. ;) | 20:18 |
| bodepd | SpamapS: that probably does make more sense as a patch | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | swift put local_file $container $path ; heat stack-create -P my_path=$url_from_container_and_path | 20:19 |
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| bodepd | thanks guys I have my resolution. for now. I'll just require that the file have a special name user.yaml | 20:20 |
| bodepd | I can also open a ticket documenting the use case | 20:20 |
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| bodepd | and it looks like I don't really have to store it as metadata, I can just pass my secrets right to disk. | 20:21 |
| bodepd | is putting secrets into templates bad? I guess they reside on the heat server? | 20:21 |
| SpamapS | bodepd: in template, yeah. in parameters is better. | 20:22 |
| SpamapS | bodepd: there's a current feature landing that will encrypt "hidden" parameters in the DB | 20:22 |
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| SpamapS | bodepd: Secrets are best left to software config / software deployments .. because they won't get passed in the EC2 user-data for the server. You can delete the deployment and the data is gone from the heat server. | 20:23 |
| bodepd | SpamapS: I may get fancier for how I handle secrets eventually. For some of them, they have to be stored somewhere secure so that they can be shared between machines | 20:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Update to latest version of pyrax and add Swift support https://review.openstack.org/94658 | 21:05 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Account for differences in Rackspace Cloud Glance https://review.openstack.org/96337 | 21:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | David J Hu proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add keystone v3 auth support https://review.openstack.org/92728 | 21:15 |
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| randallburt | oh, stevebaker why do you hate me so… ;) | 21:37 |
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| stevebaker | randallburt: I was thinking the same thing ;) | 21:40 |
| randallburt | lol. Really good changes though. The clients plugin thing is pretty awesome and will make my job much easier once it all lands (and you and I get out of merge hell) | 21:41 |
| stevebaker | randallburt: just joking. I'm going to be in rebase hell until people actually start reviewing client-plugins. Its averaging 4 hours of rebasing every day ;( | 21:42 |
| randallburt | stevebaker: ouch. I'll try and keep on them then. | 21:43 |
| stevebaker | I'd like to think that since it is such a long series then it should be the top priority for reviews, so that resolving rebase conflicts can be spread to all developers, not just me | 21:44 |
| randallburt | indeed. | 21:47 |
| bodepd | I'm going to at least update the heat docs to mention that get_file does not work with get_param | 21:48 |
| bodepd | I assume that someone from here will just see the notifications from the patch? | 21:48 |
| bodepd | is there someone I should copy on it? | 21:48 |
| zaneb | bodepd: great idea, thank you | 21:48 |
| stevebaker | bodepd: we all see them | 21:48 |
| SpamapS | we need to release heatclient | 21:48 |
| bodepd | ah. cool. I saw it was one giant project so I wasn't sure | 21:48 |
| SpamapS | events order sorted by resource right now | 21:49 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: I don't see any burningly urgent changes in https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-heatclient,n,z so I'm +1 on doing a release now | 21:50 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: could you review this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101359/ | 21:51 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: actually, I'll just release without it | 21:52 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: yeah that one is worth it to land | 21:53 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: +A'd.. | 21:53 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: can wait if you haven't done it yet :) | 21:53 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: less spurious logs == winning | 21:53 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: OK, I'll wait for it to land | 21:54 |
| SpamapS | I +A'd the unicode one too | 21:55 |
| stevebaker | ok | 21:56 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: so what is left on blueprint update-failure-recovery? | 22:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Dan Bode proposed a change to openstack/heat: Document get_file get_param incompatibility https://review.openstack.org/102956 | 22:10 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: we have to remember the old property values, because the parameters can change between the old and new templates and we will have a mixture of old and new resources | 22:16 |
| stevebaker | ok | 22:20 |
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