| openstackgerrit | Steve McLellan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Removed 'message' keyword when raising Error https://review.openstack.org/91838 | 00:05 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: yes indeed! That's a pretty good reason to just stick with the cfn API.. :) | 01:47 |
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| stevebaker | SpamapS: or cache a token | 02:16 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: argh stab stab on token refresh failures | 02:44 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1291905 | 02:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1291905 in tripleo "new resources are not available for signalling during an update -> heat stack update timeout" [High,In progress] | 02:45 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1316389 | 02:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1316389 in heat "token expiring mid-operation cause failures" [Undecided,New] | 02:52 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: whats the default timeout on software-deployment things ? | 03:02 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: yes I'm quite aware of the fact that we try to use 1 token for an entire action. We hit that back when we were co-located in Sunnyvale IIRC | 03:35 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: and yes aware that we can't signal new resources during update. :-/ | 03:35 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: right, but you were going to file a bug for the token thing; I couldn't find one and I re-hit it - so filed a new one | 03:38 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: its the timeout of the stack operation as a whole. If you're not setting it, default=60mins | 03:39 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: where do I set that ? | 03:39 |
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| stevebaker | lifeless: with the call to heat stack-update | 03:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Ziad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update common docstrings to match guidelines https://review.openstack.org/73519 | 03:40 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: --timeout | 03:40 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: ah, odd. | 03:41 |
| lifeless | sttanks | 03:41 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: thanks' | 03:41 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: (is tehre a bug open to make that be stored in the stack ? | 03:42 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: I'm not aware of one | 03:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ziad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update api docstrings to match guidelines https://review.openstack.org/73515 | 03:46 |
| lifeless | I think we'll need one to know when to fail converging-forever things | 03:46 |
| SpamapS | It would make sense as a thing that the template would be able to override. | 03:48 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1316395 | 03:49 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1316395 in heat "stack timeout is ephemeral per update" [Undecided,New] | 03:49 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I'd expect the CLI to override the template actually | 03:49 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: default>template>cli | 03:51 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: ah, so you meant the template can override the default | 03:51 |
| SpamapS | right | 03:52 |
| SpamapS | can we at least put it in environment files though? | 03:52 |
| lifeless | not today | 03:53 |
| lifeless | environment == parameters | 03:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Ignore nova limits set to '-1' https://review.openstack.org/89389 | 04:49 |
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| sab_ | Hi, is there a function in HOT that takes an callback URL and resolves and returns the result back? I didnt find any :) | 05:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Update common docstrings to match guidelines https://review.openstack.org/73519 | 05:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/89750 | 06:09 |
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| lifeless | stevebaker: have you looked at delete performance at all? | 06:11 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: it takes many minutes to delete a 30 node heat stack even after I delete all the nova servers by hand | 06:11 |
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| lifeless | hmmm I wonder if there's a stuck coroutine somewhere | 06:16 |
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| lifeless | how is cancelling meant to happen ? | 06:21 |
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| lifeless | indeed, I think structuredconfig or some such doesn't cancel | 06:24 |
| lifeless | so if you delete an inprogress stack, it wedges | 06:24 |
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| pas-ha | morning | 06:44 |
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| mattoliverau | morning pas-ha | 06:52 |
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| shardy | morning all | 07:16 |
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| mattoliverau | morning shardy | 07:18 |
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| therve | Good morning! | 07:23 |
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| mattoliverau | Well, I'm calling it a night. Have a great day all. | 07:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Correct Ubuntu WordPress Template https://review.openstack.org/92312 | 08:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ethan Lynn proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Correct Ubuntu WordPress Template https://review.openstack.org/92312 | 08:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Include exception in custom constraints errors https://review.openstack.org/82881 | 08:50 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Make Server CONFIG_DRIVE property a boolean https://review.openstack.org/89939 | 08:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Add WordPress example using software config https://review.openstack.org/89885 | 09:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Validate user_data_format for server with deployment https://review.openstack.org/82992 | 09:56 |
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| ekarlso | abtw, is multi-engine supported yet ? | 10:41 |
| shardy | ekarlso: yes, from Icehouse | 10:42 |
| ekarlso | cool shardy ! | 10:45 |
| ekarlso | shardy: how does it do locking or so ish ? | 10:45 |
| shardy | ekarlso: it uses a DB lock when stack actions are in-progress | 10:46 |
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| ekarlso | ok | 10:47 |
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| pas-ha | hi all, question o stack updates - currently if the rollback is triggered during update, the stack.status still remains in update_inprogress, and then at the very end flips to rollback_complete | 11:11 |
| pas-ha | should we better indicate that something went wrong and set rollback-inprogress status as soon as rollback triggered? | 11:12 |
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| shardy | pas-ha: Yes | 11:13 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/parser.py#L556 | 11:13 |
| shardy | the self.UPDATE in the state assignment should probably be self.ROLLBACK | 11:14 |
| shardy | or we should just set the state with action | 11:14 |
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| pas-ha | you ment this line probably? https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/parser.py#L563 | 11:15 |
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| shardy | pas-ha: sorry, yes | 11:15 |
| pas-ha | ok, wil file a bug | 11:16 |
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| pas-ha | on another topic - is gate for the heat-templates functioning? | 11:19 |
| pas-ha | I've just seen ERROR: Unknown Property wait_for_signal | 11:19 |
| pas-ha | 2014-05-06 09:30:39.539 | 2014-05-06 09:30:39.503 | Got error validating example-structured-template.yaml | 11:19 |
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| pas-ha | in the log but the gate still passes | 11:20 |
| pas-ha | is it a known bug? | 11:20 |
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| pas-ha | that's in the latest verify log of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89885/ | 11:26 |
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| shardy | pas-ha: it's a non-voting job, which probably means issues with the test are still being worked out | 11:36 |
| shardy | therve: ^^ IIRC you were working on that? | 11:36 |
| therve | Yes | 11:36 |
| therve | pas-ha, https://review.openstack.org/91543 | 11:36 |
| therve | It took a long time to fix the job so some bogus template was merged in the mean time | 11:37 |
| therve | https://review.openstack.org/91544 would be cool to merge too :) | 11:37 |
| asalkeld | done therve | 11:41 |
| therve | asalkeld, Thanks! | 11:42 |
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| asalkeld | therve, : https://review.openstack.org/86228 , https://review.openstack.org/91720 , https://review.openstack.org/91730 | 11:46 |
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| SnowDust | Hi therve, | 11:50 |
| SnowDust | here is the paste url : http://paste.openstack.org/show/79140/ please look at the problem we are facing | 11:50 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: is the child_params one missing a test? | 11:51 |
| asalkeld | I could add, just noticed it was calling a totally non existant function | 11:52 |
| shardy | broken, like most of abandon/adopt :( | 11:53 |
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| SnowDust | someone plz look at the nested template issue .. http://paste.openstack.org/show/79140/ | 11:53 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Deprecate Stack.resolve_runtime_data() https://review.openstack.org/89968 | 11:54 |
| pas-ha | could someone try to find a relevant tempest bug for this fail https://review.openstack.org/#/c/89232/ ? my google-launchpad-fu has failed me.. :( | 11:55 |
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| shardy | asalkeld: +2'd, a test would be nice, if you find time to add one :) | 11:56 |
| asalkeld | just seeing if there is something I can steal;) | 11:56 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Remove unknown property in config example https://review.openstack.org/91543 | 11:57 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat-templates: Fix exit code of validate-templates script https://review.openstack.org/91544 | 11:57 |
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| SnowDust | therve, zaneb, shardy ; http://paste.openstack.org/show/79140/ can u help with this ? | 12:06 |
| therve | SnowDust, We'd need the output of heat --debut stack_create | 12:07 |
| SnowDust | u mean debug ? | 12:07 |
| therve | I mean what I just said :) | 12:07 |
| SnowDust | debut ?? | 12:07 |
| dims_ | debug :) | 12:09 |
| therve | Or possibly what's in the heat-engine at the start of the create, I'm not sure there is anything there though | 12:11 |
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| SnowDust | therve : http://paste.openstack.org/show/79141/ | 12:24 |
| SnowDust | therve : http://paste.openstack.org/show/79142/ | 12:24 |
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| tspatzier | shardy, therve: If you have time, could you have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91485 ? This is related to a custom_constraint validation bug (actually two) we talked about recently | 12:39 |
| shardy | tspatzier: sure, will do | 12:41 |
| therve | SnowDust, I don't know | 12:44 |
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| tspatzier | thanks shardy | 12:47 |
| SnowDust | therve : wht u dont know :) | 12:49 |
| therve | Why it doesn't work | 12:49 |
| SnowDust | hmm .. | 12:49 |
| SnowDust | ok .. i has shared .. the reason .. | 12:50 |
| SnowDust | <therve> SnowDust, You can paste the whole output of "heat --debug stack-create ..." ? | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <SnowDust> when i pingd :) i was doing that .. now will have to repeat the excercise the vm is deleted :D | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <SnowDust> but i can comeback with that output | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <SnowDust> as u need | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <SnowDust> but as i debugged i shared the lines where i saw the nested template was giving invalid URI due to https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/template_resource.py#L73 | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <SnowDust> evaluating to true | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <therve> But that's irrelevant. It should not get there. | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <SnowDust> i see | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <therve> So I presume you're not passing the stack files properly. But I don't know because you don't give enough information | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <SnowDust> actually urlfetch is being called two times .. first for the top level with allowed_scheme = "file" | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <SnowDust> and second time .. getting into this loop and .. doing wrong things | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <SnowDust> ok therve let me repeat this excercise with very common templates so that all the info is open | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | <SnowDust> and sharable | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | i had debugged it earlier .. as u saw .. | 12:51 |
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| shardy | SnowDust: please use paste.openstack.org | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | shardy : ok ! | 12:51 |
| SnowDust | my earlier chat .. did give the reason for the failure .. but .. dont know what else i need to provide .. | 12:52 |
| therve | SnowDust, https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat/engine/resources/template_resource.py#L157 | 12:53 |
| therve | here the template should be retrieved in the stack files | 12:53 |
| therve | You don't enter the urlfetch if every works correctly | 12:53 |
| SnowDust | strange ... | 12:54 |
| SnowDust | i have pasted both templates .. just give it a try if u have some time.. | 12:55 |
| SnowDust | atleast add it to your TODO :) | 12:55 |
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| therve | Well I tested already a small template and it work for me | 12:57 |
| SnowDust | bt not this ? | 12:57 |
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| SnowDust | so that all means it fails "outside lab" :D | 12:57 |
| therve | SnowDust, http://paste.openstack.org/show/79156/ | 12:58 |
| therve | Try this one | 12:58 |
| sorantis | hi | 12:58 |
| SnowDust | can u also paste the heat stack-create --debug ? | 12:59 |
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| sorantis | do you think it’s worth building an example template around this one http://paste.openstack.org/show/79157/ and submitting it to heat-templates ? | 12:59 |
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| shardy | SnowDust: does it work if you map the nested template via an environment file? | 13:01 |
| shardy | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/environment.html | 13:02 |
| SnowDust | shardy : i never tried .. | 13:03 |
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| SnowDust | but ... i have shared the paste urls, and now i need help from u guys | 13:04 |
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| shardy | SnowDust: probably, the issue is bug #1297396 | 13:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1297396 in heat "Nested Provider resources not found" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297396 | 13:07 |
| shardy | there is a patch up from asalkeld which fixes that, you may want to test it and provide feedback | 13:07 |
| SnowDust | shardy: patch link plz .. | 13:09 |
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| shardy | SnowDust: seriously? Is opening the bug and reading the comments really that much of an effort? | 13:12 |
| shardy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1297396/comments/11 | 13:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1297396 in heat "Nested Provider resources not found" [High,In progress] | 13:12 |
| SnowDust | shardy : is this https://launchpad.net/bugs/1297396 what u are referring ? | 13:12 |
| SnowDust | shardy .. thanks | 13:13 |
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| SnowDust | i didnt know uvirtbot :D | 13:14 |
| SnowDust | thanks .. all | 13:14 |
| SnowDust | i will test and come back. | 13:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement snapshots for servers and images https://review.openstack.org/87280 | 13:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add snapshot restore HTTP API https://review.openstack.org/92125 | 13:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement stack restore https://review.openstack.org/92124 | 13:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implement snapshot listing https://review.openstack.org/92126 | 13:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add APIs to create and manipulate snapshots https://review.openstack.org/87279 | 13:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Herve proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add RPC method to snapshot stacks https://review.openstack.org/87278 | 13:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Ziad Sawalha proposed a change to openstack/heat: Update api docstrings to match guidelines https://review.openstack.org/73515 | 13:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Set rollback status early in update if triggered https://review.openstack.org/92371 | 13:39 |
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| zaneb | shardy: about? | 13:51 |
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| shardy | zaneb: Hi! | 13:52 |
| zaneb | when is a good time to jump on a call? | 13:52 |
| zaneb | pretty much any time works for me | 13:53 |
| shardy | zaneb: now, or any time in the next hour is fine with me | 13:53 |
| zaneb | ok, let's go with now :) | 13:54 |
| zaneb | what's your extension? | 13:54 |
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| zaneb | I have a new acct and my directory got wiped... | 13:54 |
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| jasond | shardy, randallburt: would you mind re-reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83218/ ? the only change was a rebase. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83218/14..15/contrib/rackspace/rackspace/resources/cloud_server.py https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83218/14..15/contrib/rackspace/rackspace/tests/test_rackspace_cloud_server.py | 14:31 |
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| randallburt | jasond: looking | 14:31 |
| jasond | thanks | 14:32 |
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| shardy | jasond: will do | 14:37 |
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| jasond | shardy: thanks | 14:41 |
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| therve | shardy, Hey, I have a question about trusts and stack users | 14:54 |
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| shardy | therve: Hi, sure | 14:55 |
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| therve | shardy, If I want to create a trust for the stack user, with ceilometer as the trustee | 14:56 |
| therve | shardy, Do I need to make the call as the stack user? | 14:56 |
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| therve | Or as the domain admin? | 14:56 |
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| shardy | therve: only the trustor (i.e the stack user) can create the trust | 14:58 |
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| shardy | therve: I'd like to better understand the use-case for this though, as IIRC last week we decided either trusts *or* stack users were the way forward for signals | 14:59 |
| shardy | therve: I may have confused things though, as I did mention both together when we discussed with eglynn | 15:00 |
| therve | shardy, I thought we talked about using trusts on the stack user to limit signalling capibilities | 15:00 |
| therve | capabilities | 15:00 |
| therve | Using stack users feel a bit strange, since we would need to set a password and transmit it securely to ceilometer | 15:01 |
| shardy | Yeah, but then I went for lunch, thought about it, and we discussed it again and decided I was wrong :) | 15:01 |
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| therve | Hum Okay :) | 15:01 |
| therve | I thought it somewhat made sense | 15:01 |
| shardy | I think stack users makes sense for signalling from instances, because they by default aren't allowed to do anything | 15:01 |
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| shardy | however, for trusts to be useful for alarm signalling, we really need ceilometer to impersonate the stack *owner* | 15:02 |
| therve | Do we? | 15:02 |
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| therve | Hum I guess you need specific permissions after the signaling | 15:03 |
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| shardy | Yes, otherwise we still need the trust in heat, so we can impersonate the stack owner when reacting to the signal | 15:03 |
| shardy | If the signal just appears to be *from* the stack owner, we no longer need to do that | 15:03 |
| therve | OK cool | 15:03 |
| therve | shardy, So you can review my patch again then? :) | 15:04 |
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| shardy | So I think we either keep the trust in heat and signal via a stack-domain-user credential, *or* move the trust to ceilometer and have the signal impersonate the stack owner | 15:04 |
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| therve | Oh wait | 15:04 |
| shardy | therve: Oh, I thought I already had, sorry | 15:04 |
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| * therve is confused again | 15:04 | |
| therve | " move the trust to ceilometer and have the signal impersonate the stack owner" is what the patch does already, or not? | 15:05 |
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| shardy | therve: yes, I think we went full-circle in our discussions and decided what you have basically does the right thing | 15:05 |
| therve | Alright | 15:06 |
| shardy | the only issue IIRC was it would be better for ceilometer, not heat, to create the trust when the alarm is created | 15:06 |
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| mwheckmann | Hi. I have a question related to alarms and the Ceilometer implementation. | 15:07 |
| shardy | therve: I'm sorry if I caused confusion, we bounced quite a few ideas around so it was quite hard to keep track :) | 15:07 |
| shardy | therve: I'll re-review your patches now | 15:08 |
| Qiming | therve: which patch are we talking about? | 15:08 |
| shardy | Qiming: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87111/ | 15:09 |
| shardy | mwheckmann: Hi, what is your question? | 15:09 |
| Qiming | shardy: got it, thanks | 15:09 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: I can't get the included AWS_CloudWatch_Alarm.yaml template to work? The one based on the Ceilometer alarms? | 15:10 |
| mwheckmann | s/?// | 15:10 |
| mwheckmann | we keep getting the following error: TRACE heat.engine.resource ValueError: Value must be a comma-delimited list string: 'list' object has no attribute 'split' | 15:10 |
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| shardy | mwheckmann: Can you please raise a bug with the engine backtrace, and the template you're using to reproduce the issue? | 15:12 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: sure. I'll do that and provide all the info | 15:12 |
| mwheckmann | thanks. | 15:12 |
| shardy | mwheckmann: Qiming had some problems ref bug #1315048 but this sounds like a different issue | 15:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1315048 in heat "Circular dependency when using Ceilometer alarms" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1315048 | 15:12 |
| Qiming | mwheckmann: I'm curious how can you go that far. Heat refused to create a stack for me, complaining about circular dependency ... | 15:13 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: I'll look at that bug. Ceilometer alarms themselves work perfectly. | 15:13 |
| shardy | mwheckmann: cool, I think we're experiencing some bit-rot due to that implemenation being off by default | 15:13 |
| mwheckmann | Qiming: It's only when I try to use AWS::Cloudwatch::Alarm using the AWS_CloudWatch_Alarm.yaml template which is based on OS::Ceilometer::Alarm | 15:14 |
| shardy | for Juno we should probably switch and make it on by default, deprecating the CWLiteAlarm | 15:14 |
| shardy | then we can get some gate tests in to prove it stays working | 15:14 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: yup. | 15:14 |
| Qiming | mwheckmann: that is exactly what I did .... | 15:14 |
| Qiming | mwheckmann: OIC, you were not using the alarm to trigger HARestarter ... I guess | 15:15 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: Correct, me if I'm wrong, but using CWLiteAlarm won't allow us to use Alarms with Windows instances. Correct? | 15:15 |
| mwheckmann | Qiming: All provide all the info in the bug report that I'll create. | 15:15 |
| mwheckmann | I'll provide | 15:15 |
| Qiming | thanks, mwheckmann | 15:16 |
| shardy | mwheckmann: it won't allow you to use any hypervisor metrics from ceilometer at all, only those pushed to heat via cfn-push-stats (from inside the instance) | 15:16 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: right. but do we have cfn-push-stats on Windows instances? I think not. | 15:16 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: I know that Cloudbase-init supports HEAT to some level, but not to that extent. | 15:17 |
| shardy | mwheckmann: No, but it could probably be replaced with some alternative (e.g whatever the windows equivalent of curl is), or made to run on Windows fairly easily | 15:18 |
| Qiming | umh... maybe we should replace cfn-push-stats together with CWLiteAlarm, with something directly talk to ceilometer | 15:18 |
| shardy | Qiming: That is what we'd like to do, yes | 15:18 |
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| shardy | until recently the issue was lack of credentials to pass to the ceilometer client | 15:18 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: right. I think at this point, I'd rather invest my time in getting CEilometer based alarms working correctly. In particular the AWS::Cloudwatch::Alarm implementation | 15:19 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: You mean the new domain users implementation? | 15:19 |
| shardy | actually that still is an issue, but stack-domain-users may provide a partial solution | 15:19 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: right | 15:20 |
| shardy | mwheckmann: agree, the ceilometer based approach needs fixing asap and is the best place to focus IMO | 15:21 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: Ok. I'll prepare a bug report this afternoon. Thanks for your help. | 15:21 |
| shardy | the other problem with CWLiteAlarm is the watch rules it uses will break if you try to run it with multiple engines | 15:21 |
| shardy | so we really want to deprecate it and focus on making the ceilometer stuff work well | 15:22 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: ok. | 15:22 |
| mwheckmann | shardy: At this point, are there any metrics not supported by Ceilometer that *are* supported by the CWLite implementation? | 15:22 |
| Qiming | multiple engines ... never tried that before. only managed to deploy a multi_host using devstack today | 15:22 |
| mwheckmann | I know that memory.usage was added in Icehouse | 15:23 |
| mwheckmann | (to Ceilometer I mean) | 15:23 |
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| Qiming | mwheckmann: really? how can I enable that meter? | 15:24 |
| shardy | mwheckmann: I don't think so, AFAIK any metrics hitting heat-api-cloudwatch are redirected to ceilometer by the engine, so the ceilometer based implementation should provide a complete replacement, when we fix these recent issues | 15:24 |
| shardy | mwheckmann: by comparison to ceilometer the heat internal metric/alarm system is horribly crude and unscalable | 15:25 |
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| mwheckmann | Qiming: It comes with Icehouse | 15:26 |
| Qiming | shardy: so, basically, we are expecting ceilometer to be the only source of alarms? | 15:26 |
| mwheckmann | Qiming: Once you are running the Icehouse version of the Ceilometer compute agent (the one that runs on compute nodes) the metric will begin to appear | 15:26 |
| Qiming | mwheckmann: I am using the git HEAD version, but haven't saw that counter_name yet | 15:27 |
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| mwheckmann | Qiming: At least that's the theory. I haven't tried it yet | 15:27 |
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| mwheckmann | Qiming: are you running the Ceilomter compute-agent? (or ceilometer-agent-compute) | 15:27 |
| mwheckmann | Qiming: I looked at the implementatin, it's just a Ceilomter pollster pluging which leverages the data from Libvirt | 15:28 |
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| mwheckmann | Qiming: Easy to backport to Havana | 15:28 |
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| Qiming | mwheckmann: I saw that code as well.. wondering if something is wrong, because I really didn't see memory usage data | 15:29 |
| mwheckmann | Qiming: maybe something is wrong | 15:29 |
| shardy | Qiming: eventually, yes | 15:30 |
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| mwheckmann | Qiming: check debug logs I guess. make sure pipeline.yaml includes all meters. | 15:30 |
| Qiming | mwheckmann: will do that | 15:30 |
| mwheckmann | Qiming: I'm planning on trying it soon, so I'll let you know if I see you here. | 15:31 |
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| Qiming | shardy: if ceilometer is the only source for alarms, do we still need resource_signal API? | 15:31 |
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| Qiming | mwheckmann: that would be cool. I am seeing this in log, but no data: 2014-05-06 23:23:57.873 21866 INFO ceilometer.agent [-] Polling pollster memory.usage | 15:32 |
| chmouel | therve: junodesignsummit.sched.org | 15:33 |
| Qiming | mwheckmann: I can get all other polster data, except for memory.usage. This is funny. | 15:34 |
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| shardy | Qiming: yes, since whatever alarm system you use, there is a need to signal resources | 15:36 |
| shardy | Qiming: and there are non-alarm use-cases for signalling resources, e.g SoftwareDeployments and things like WaitConditions | 15:36 |
| Qiming | mwheckmann: the inspect_memory_usage method is not implemented by libvirt | 15:37 |
| Qiming | shardy: I would prefer signal to alarms, because with signal I can carry some payload, but with alarm, it would be difficult | 15:38 |
| shardy | Qiming: As far as heat is concerned, alarms are signals already, so ceilometer can (or at least could) pass payload with the alarm already | 15:41 |
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| shardy | :q | 15:41 |
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| shardy | oops! | 15:41 |
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| shardy | therve: still around? | 16:34 |
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| SpamapS | oh hey I just hit this too I think | 16:37 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1316646 | 16:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1316646 in heat "heat-manage db_sync crashes on migration 033_software_config because of MySQL error 1709" [Undecided,New] | 16:37 |
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| SpamapS | can't index a utf8 varchar(256) | 16:37 |
| SpamapS | why is tenant 256? | 16:37 |
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| SpamapS | looks like tenant ID is 64 bytes in keystone's database | 16:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix length of Keystone fields https://review.openstack.org/92406 | 16:56 |
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| randallburt | if anyone has time to put eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/88636/ it would be greatly appreciated. | 17:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix length of tenant ID https://review.openstack.org/92406 | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Clint 'SpamapS' Byrum proposed a change to openstack/heat: Patch 033 migration to work w/ utf-8 DB https://review.openstack.org/92421 | 17:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Do not initialise stack_user password https://review.openstack.org/89999 | 18:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dan Prince proposed a change to openstack/heat: Revert "Support ... x-forwarded-for header" https://review.openstack.org/92439 | 19:17 |
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| slowe | Does Heat drive cloud-init differently than just spinning up instances manually? I'm trying to figure out why cloud-init behaves differently for instances created via a Heat template. | 19:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Alan Pevec proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor service readiness notification https://review.openstack.org/92456 | 19:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/heat: resource-list fails on a failed resourcegroup stack https://review.openstack.org/92458 | 19:58 |
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| SpamapS | slowe: Heat injects some cloud-init instructions | 20:15 |
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| slowe | SpamapS: Would that include changing the way the password for the default user is handled? | 20:15 |
| SpamapS | slowe: if you have instance_user defined, it will create that user as an admin on the system. It will also write some clues about where Heat's API endpoints are at to /var/lib/heat-cfntools | 20:15 |
| SpamapS | slowe: you shouldn't be using passwords | 20:16 |
| SpamapS | slowe: you have an SSH key mechanism. | 20:16 |
| slowe | SpamapS: I know about the inherent dangers for passwords, but given that this is a home lab that is 100% isolated from all outside networks, the risk is acceptable. Further, not all instances are granted public IPs and therefore aren't necessarily accessible via SSH. | 20:17 |
| SpamapS | slowe: you want to vnc into them then? | 20:17 |
| slowe | SpamapS: I'll have a look at instance_user. Yes, access is currently to the console via NoVNC proxy from Dashboard. | 20:17 |
| radix | so any heaters going to any of the "RSVP" parties at the summit? | 20:22 |
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| SpamapS | radix: I haven't seen the schedule | 20:35 |
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| SpamapS | radix: I declined the cores only party tho | 20:35 |
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| radix | actually maybe these things I am looking at are not RSVP parties | 20:38 |
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| radix | like there's this: http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/event/d644f7e6223b2afb2bc4008dd45e01df | 20:38 |
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| radix | and this: http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/event/3fd550361b2028a52df21d0bd2982888 | 20:39 |
| radix | I guess here's all the evening events: http://openstacksummitmay2014atlanta.sched.org/type/evening+events | 20:39 |
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| SpamapS | radix: some of those are RSVP :0 | 20:43 |
| SpamapS | world of coca cola | 20:44 |
| SpamapS | wow | 20:44 |
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| SpamapS | radix: thanks for the links. RSVP'd to almost everything. ;) | 20:47 |
| radix | ah ok :) | 20:47 |
| radix | heh, yeah | 20:47 |
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| stevebaker | lifeless: I haven't looked at delete performance. Can you look at the event list to see if particular resources are taking a long time to delete? | 20:57 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: pretty sure its structuredconfigs blocking | 20:57 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: but I've thrown it away in the name of testing | 20:58 |
| stevebaker | thats odd | 20:58 |
| stevebaker | config delete should be one api call, atomic operation | 20:59 |
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| stevebaker | SpamapS: could you take a quick look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92035/ ? | 21:04 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: done | 21:09 |
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| stevebaker | SpamapS: thanks, I'm actually working towards a devstack check/gate job which runs heat-slow against an image created with commits from dib, tie, o*c, heat-cfntools, heat-templates | 21:13 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: be still my heart. ;) | 21:13 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: really cool to see that the tools are useful. :) | 21:14 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: for anything we're doing, I think we should be using https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92033/ | 21:15 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: 7x faster :) | 21:15 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: I did notice very slow deletes even with it though | 21:15 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: yeah, I've been pondering whether to push for occ being the unified agent by picking one project (like trove) and assimilating its agent | 21:16 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: _push_metadata_software_deployments is where metadata can be pushed to swift... eventually | 21:17 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: right on. :) | 21:25 |
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| radix | so I guess http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/11 is very related to http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/428 | 23:03 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: +1 on borging it | 23:03 |
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| lifeless | radix: they are related for sure | 23:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Use resource methods for metadata get/set https://review.openstack.org/89736 | 23:10 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Do not query database for every metadata_get https://review.openstack.org/89737 | 23:10 |
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