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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Process provider templates for included files https://review.openstack.org/82603 | 00:13 |
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| stevebaker | right, I think that is everything for rc2 landed! | 00:25 |
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| mattoliverau | Nice! | 00:29 |
| randallburt | stevebaker: congrats | 00:30 |
| stevebaker | randallburt: hey, is there a zookeeper heat driver floating around somewhere? I'm just wondering how to announce the multi-engine feature in the release notes | 00:31 |
| randallburt | stevebaker: not to my knowlege. noone on my team has tested one in any case. jasond is out until tomorrow but I can ask him then. | 00:32 |
| stevebaker | randallburt: ok, so you're using the db one internally? | 00:32 |
| randallburt | stevebaker: yes | 00:33 |
| stevebaker | cool, thanks | 00:33 |
| randallburt | np | 00:33 |
| randallburt | stevebaker: its probably on the roadmap to test somewhere down the road, though as our traffic ramps up. | 00:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Plunk proposed a change to openstack/heat: Chef solo resource https://review.openstack.org/55208 | 00:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jun Jie Nan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Validate user_data_format for server with deployment https://review.openstack.org/82992 | 01:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Deprecate preview --create-timeout in favor of --timeout https://review.openstack.org/82727 | 02:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Update status section to indicate HOT is supported https://review.openstack.org/85610 | 02:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mitsuru Kanabuchi proposed a change to openstack/heat: Shut the heat-engine after all threads finished https://review.openstack.org/86497 | 03:28 |
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| cmyster | morning | 03:29 |
| mspreitz | cmyster: good evening | 03:30 |
| cmyster | sun is just comming up on this side :)_ | 03:30 |
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| mattoliverau | morning cmyster | 03:40 |
| cmyster | hey | 03:40 |
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| mspreitz | F17 and F18 are both at EOL; we should update heat-templates to something more recent | 04:16 |
| cmyster | F20 has cfn tools preinstalled and I'm using that | 04:17 |
| cmyster | mspreitz: for example https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/F20/WordPress_Native.yaml | 04:18 |
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| mspreitz | cmyster: Many templates take release as a parameter, but accept no Fedora higher than 18 | 04:32 |
| mspreitz | E.g., WordPress_Single_Instance.template | 04:32 |
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| cmyster | so you want to move all the templates from https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/(17/18) to 20? | 04:35 |
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| mspreitz | cmyster: It's worse than that. 20 is not yet available at fedorapeople (where we get 17 and 18 from). So I'm thinking F19 | 04:43 |
| mspreitz | Also: 20 trips up the incompetent lurker in some networks (https://github.com/net-ssh/net-ssh/issues/93) | 04:43 |
| mspreitz | I have not tested 19 yet, but I hope it does not have that problem | 04:44 |
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| cmyster | I'm using this image: http://cloud.fedoraproject.org/fedora-20.x86_64.qcow2 | 04:44 |
| cmyster | no issues thus far, but my testing on that image is basic for the most part | 04:46 |
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| mspreitz | How large is that qcow2 file? | 04:47 |
| cmyster | ~200mb | 04:47 |
| cmyster | smaller then F17 IIRC | 04:47 |
| mspreitz | Interesting. The fedorapeople images are hundreds of MB larger. Any idea why? | 04:48 |
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| cmyster | well, this is an image for clouds so I imagine that its a very stripped down version. meaning only the things that are necessary for booting and simple operations. Everything else can be installed later via yum | 04:49 |
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| mspreitz | Does the image you're using have cfn-tools? | 04:50 |
| cmyster | yes, cfn tools are preinstalled in F20 | 04:51 |
| mspreitz | The fedorapeople images are in http://fedorapeople.org/groups/heat/prebuilt-jeos-images/ --- they are intended for use in OS cloud, and the "jeos" suggests they're intended to be small too. Puzzling. | 04:52 |
| mspreitz | How small a flavor have you got your image working in? | 04:52 |
| cmyster | I am using m1.tiny. I did not try micro but I think it should work there as well | 04:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryo Miki proposed a change to openstack/heat: Restore resource_id from backup_stack when delete https://review.openstack.org/86232 | 05:22 |
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| skraynev | Morning ;) | 05:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jenkins proposed a change to openstack/heat: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/83957 | 06:09 |
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| sdake | cmyster if you see mspreitz again, tell him the images on fedorapeople were generated by oz by me running the commands on my laptop | 06:16 |
| sdake | the fedora 20 qcow2 is generated by fedora release engineering | 06:16 |
| sdake | i would just delete the heat-jeos images but our templates are all f17 | 06:17 |
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| sdake | night all | 06:18 |
| cmyster | nn sdake | 06:20 |
| cmyster | morning skraynev | 06:20 |
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| sdake | clearly the fedora rel eng images are superior | 06:20 |
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| skraynev | good morning cmyster ;) | 06:26 |
| cmyster | sup | 06:26 |
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| therve | Good morning! | 06:45 |
| cmyster | morning | 06:46 |
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| asalkeld | anyone ever used jsonschema? | 07:00 |
| asalkeld | https://python-jsonschema.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 07:00 |
| therve | *vaguely* | 07:00 |
| therve | otter uses it | 07:00 |
| asalkeld | is it any good? | 07:00 |
| asalkeld | seems like heat is reinventing the wheel | 07:00 |
| asalkeld | (need something like this for solum) | 07:01 |
| therve | I'm a too old programmer to find any lib good | 07:01 |
| asalkeld | hah | 07:01 |
| therve | asalkeld, ceilometer uses it if you want to have a look | 07:01 |
| therve | asalkeld, They are interested in another lib though | 07:02 |
| therve | For validation | 07:02 |
| asalkeld | ok, cool | 07:02 |
| therve | voluptuous? | 07:02 |
| therve | Yeah https://pypi.python.org/pypi/voluptuous/ | 07:02 |
| therve | Apparently you know about it https://bugs.launchpad.net/solum/+bug/1286400 :) | 07:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1286400 in solum "Use voluptuous library for data validation" [Wishlist,New] | 07:03 |
| asalkeld | therve, yeah: python-jsonschema is in requirements | 07:04 |
| asalkeld | and voluptuous isn't | 07:04 |
| asalkeld | (it's used by zuul) | 07:04 |
| asalkeld | just looking at options | 07:04 |
| therve | I think jsonschema may be slightly better for APIs | 07:04 |
| therve | as it can be used in other languages | 07:04 |
| asalkeld | it looks more complete | 07:05 |
| therve | voluptuous is way nicer to write and you can validate yaml | 07:06 |
| asalkeld | yeah | 07:07 |
| asalkeld | heat should replace it's home grow stuff at some point | 07:08 |
| * therve nods | 07:08 | |
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| asalkeld | https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2.py#L1134 | 07:11 |
| asalkeld | gringe | 07:11 |
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| shardy | morning all | 07:19 |
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| cmyster | morning | 07:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add missing test coverage for XMLResponseSerializer https://review.openstack.org/86278 | 07:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor to separate serializers from wsgi controller https://review.openstack.org/86279 | 07:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Hardy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Don't disguise CFN API exceptions https://review.openstack.org/86280 | 07:31 |
| shardy | liang: ^^ fixed the commit message, thanks for the reviews! :) | 07:31 |
| mattoliverau | night all | 07:32 |
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| pas-ha | morning all | 08:40 |
| pas-ha | :) | 08:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adding attribute schema class for attributes https://review.openstack.org/86525 | 08:48 |
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| cmyster | morning pas-ha | 08:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add missing test coverage for XMLResponseSerializer https://review.openstack.org/86278 | 10:11 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Refactor to separate serializers from wsgi controller https://review.openstack.org/86279 | 10:12 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Don't disguise CFN API exceptions https://review.openstack.org/86280 | 10:12 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Remove testscenarios load_tests https://review.openstack.org/85953 | 10:13 |
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| cmyster | shardy: btw, dunno if you knew but were off for a week+ here | 10:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Allow NotFound to be created without args https://review.openstack.org/86195 | 10:23 |
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| shardy | cmyster: ok, enjoy :) | 10:26 |
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| therve | shardy, So I have this issue with snapshotting: I'd like to return some data (like the ids of the snapshot created) | 13:13 |
| therve | But I don't want to block the request waiting for all the resources to snapshot | 13:13 |
| therve | What's a good pattern for that? | 13:13 |
| shardy | therve: Hmm, not sure, I guess it means we have to store at least the most recent snapshot somewhere and make it available e.g via heat snapshot-show? | 13:15 |
| therve | Yeah I guess | 13:15 |
| therve | I figured out that storing was mandatory | 13:15 |
| shardy | Yeah I think it will have to be | 13:15 |
| therve | shardy, So snapshot-show will look a bit like abandon preview I think | 13:16 |
| shardy | we could make it configurable though I guess, either store it in the DB, or push it to swift depending on a config option | 13:16 |
| therve | Hum... | 13:16 |
| shardy | therve: Yeah agree it probably will | 13:16 |
| therve | shardy, You mean storing the template, or... ? | 13:16 |
| shardy | therve: no the data associated with the snapshot | 13:17 |
| shardy | which as you say will probably be a special type of abandon file | 13:17 |
| therve | Okay interesting | 13:17 |
| therve | shardy, So, I should return a snapshot ID, which I can query later on then | 13:18 |
| shardy | therve: +1 | 13:18 |
| shardy | sounds consistent with our existing model for asynchronous operations | 13:18 |
| therve | That would allow more easily having several snapshots too | 13:19 |
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| jdob | shardy: ping | 13:27 |
| shardy | jdob: hi! | 13:28 |
| jdob | shardy: hey :) I saw you mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1294295 as icehouse-backport-potential, is there anything extra I have to do, or is there a separate process for later reviewing those? | 13:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1294295 in heat "heat validation improvements and error verbosity" [Medium,Fix committed] | 13:28 |
| shardy | jdob: when we ship icehouse, it can be proposed as a backport via the normal stable branch process: | 13:29 |
| shardy | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch#Proposing_Fixes | 13:30 |
| shardy | can't really do it yet as we've not yet cut stable/icehouse | 13:30 |
| shardy | There is a milestone-proposed branch, but this doesn't seem critical enough to warrant cutting an RC3 | 13:30 |
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| jdob | ahh, ok, thanks | 13:31 |
| shardy | jdob: anyone can propose the backports to stable, but tagging it is just a way to get it visible to those doing the backports (often the PTL) | 13:31 |
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| jdob | so there will be a time when bugs with that tag are reviewed? | 13:32 |
| shardy | jdob: yes, normally in the weeks prior to a planned stable release the PTL will review the list | 13:32 |
| jdob | gotcha | 13:32 |
| jdob | (this is the first release I've been around for, the process is still new to me) | 13:33 |
| shardy | jdob: but if folks pro-actively propose the backports themselves, that's even better :) | 13:33 |
| shardy | jdob: no worries, it's a slightly different process to getting changes into master | 13:34 |
| jdob | dumb question, stable is cut off of the milestone? | 13:34 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: would you expect something in the deployments to change if the deployment is signaled? | 13:34 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: I think I'm seeing os-collect-config go into an endless loop because it always signals completion at the end | 13:34 |
| shardy | jdob: when we ship the final Icehouse release, there'll be a new branch, stable/icehouse | 13:35 |
| shardy | jdob: the stable releases are tagged off that | 13:35 |
| shardy | https://github.com/openstack/heat/tree/stable/havana | 13:35 |
| shardy | like that for Havana | 13:35 |
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| jdob | i'm missing something then, if my patch was merged to master, it wont get picked up when that branch is made? | 13:36 |
| shardy | jdob: milestone-proposed is like a temporary stable branch, which holds the release candidates in the final weeks before the GA of the milestone | 13:36 |
| shardy | jdob: no because we've already branched milestone-proposed which is where the RC's come from | 13:37 |
| shardy | and unless we find serious bugs that will become stable/icehouse | 13:37 |
| jdob | ahh, ok. that's what I wasn't understanding, I get it now | 13:37 |
| jdob | thanks :) | 13:37 |
| shardy | jdob: np, thanks for the patch! | 13:38 |
| shardy | jdob: feel free to ping me if you want me to talk you through the stable backport after icehouse gets released | 13:38 |
| jdob | i did one yesterday in tripleo from master to stable, but i'll likely bounce it off you to double check | 13:39 |
| shardy | jdob: Ok cool, should be pretty much the same process | 13:39 |
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| mspreitz | stevebaker: (or anybody else) have you tried to use http://fedorapeople.org/groups/heat/prebuilt-jeos-images/F19-x86_64-cfntools.qcow2 ? | 14:21 |
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| mspreitz | Has anybody got a source for Fedora 19 or 20 images that work? | 14:28 |
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| shardy | mspreitz: The official F20 cloud image | 14:31 |
| shardy | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_images | 14:31 |
| shardy | http://openstack.redhat.com/forum/discussion/959/get-fedora-20-now | 14:31 |
| shardy | mspreitz: I've also used that F19 image and it does (or at least did) work | 14:32 |
| shardy | mspreitz: all my testing recently has been on F20 though | 14:32 |
| mspreitz | shardy: thanks. Sorry for my scant attention, doing two things at once. What do you write in localrc to get those? | 14:34 |
| shardy | IMAGE_URLS+=",http://cloud.fedoraproject.org/fedora-20.x86_64.qcow2" | 14:34 |
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| lipinski | anyone know if "layered" multipartmimes for SoftwareConfigs recently broke? | 15:44 |
| shardy | lipinski: No, but please raise a bug if you think they did :) | 15:44 |
| lipinski | I'm trying to do the equivalent to this: https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/hot/software-config/example-cloud-init.yaml, but the layered one is not working (e.g., server_init resource in example) | 15:44 |
| lipinski | ok - let me re-test and see to be sure. | 15:45 |
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| lipinski | yep, definitely doesn't work... | 15:48 |
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| sdake_ | morning | 17:57 |
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| jasond | sdake_: morning | 18:05 |
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| jasond | is cfn-signal here to stay or will that eventually be replaced with a native helper script? | 18:08 |
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| sdake_ | cfn-signal will always be a part of heat-cfntools I believe | 18:09 |
| sdake_ | the reason is to provide parity with cloudformation | 18:09 |
| sdake_ | whether we provide a native version is up to us | 18:09 |
| sdake_ | cfntools itself is all just part of native cloudformation functionality | 18:10 |
| sdake_ | in reality we don't even need heat-cfntools going forwaard in images | 18:10 |
| jasond | sdake_: how would you do the stuff cfn-signal does? curl? | 18:10 |
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| sdake_ | someone had talked about adding a resource to do it | 18:11 |
| sdake_ | I dont recall who | 18:11 |
| sdake_ | so you would call something like get_attr (signal, command) and it would do the right curl operation | 18:11 |
| sdake_ | rather signal/wc | 18:12 |
| sdake_ | you get the idea :) | 18:12 |
| jasond | oh, interesting | 18:12 |
| sdake_ | I'm not sure if I just invented that idea or if someone already discussed it | 18:12 |
| sdake_ | but it seems like the right approach to me :) | 18:12 |
| jasond | sdake_: it does. couldn't find a BP about that | 18:15 |
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| sdake_ | it might be something as simple as adding a attribute to a wait condition | 18:16 |
| sdake_ | i'm not sure if those signals must be signed and if so how they become so | 18:16 |
| jasond | i guess you'd have to assume some things about the environment in the images | 18:16 |
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| jasond | sdake_: shardy is probably the expert on that | 18:17 |
| sdake_ | ya shardy the man on security with heat :) | 18:21 |
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| zaneb | jasond: Ref on the WaitCondition currently returns a signed URL that you can grab with curl | 18:51 |
| zaneb | an openstack-native version might get more complicated though | 18:52 |
| jasond | zaneb: thanks | 18:53 |
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| sdake_ | stevebaker does software config work with the fedora versions of os-*-* - you mentioned some bugs in these packages | 19:29 |
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| stevebaker | morning | 20:05 |
| stevebaker | sdake_: A dib-built fedora image with tripleo-image-elements works fine. The issues with the rpms is either missing files or env variables | 20:07 |
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| sdake | how does dib build, via pip? | 20:28 |
| sdake | stevebaker can you get bugs filed asap and cc me on them, we need to get cranking this stuff into the guest images -all the distros are nearing release where we can add this stuff | 20:29 |
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| sdake | ideally I'd like fedora 21 to include the correct bits in the cloud image that are functional | 20:30 |
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| stevebaker | SpamapS: a deployment resource should go from IN_PROGRESS -> COMPLETE on signal (plus outputs get set). However the next time occ polls the metadata should not change since it should still be returning the previous derived config, so orc shouldn't be triggered. That was the intent anyway | 20:41 |
| stevebaker | sdake: I've almost got all the issues into an etherpad, then I'll raise 1 bug per package | 20:41 |
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| sdake | oh right etherpad | 20:42 |
| stevebaker | http://openstack.etherpad.corp.redhat.com/os-config-packages | 20:42 |
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| SpamapS | stevebaker: I'll look at what might be causing it to detect changes... might be broken implementation in occ | 20:44 |
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| stevebaker | SpamapS: it might be changes leaking through too. If I get a chance I'll check | 20:45 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS: is there a reason you don't just hash the metadata to detect changes? I remember some line-by-line comparisons | 20:46 |
| SpamapS | stevebaker: we do hash | 20:47 |
| stevebaker | I must be thinking of something else | 20:47 |
| SpamapS | oh hm | 20:48 |
| SpamapS | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/os-collect-config/tree/os_collect_config/cache.py#n63 | 20:48 |
| SpamapS | no it is line by line | 20:48 |
| SpamapS | and I forget why | 20:48 |
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| stevebaker | premature optimisation? | 20:58 |
| sdake | strcmp is faster then hash but find it hard to beleive it matters much :) | 20:59 |
| sdake | although in some cases for large data memcmp (8192 bytes or more), hash is faster | 21:00 |
| sdake | atleast that was the case 5-10 years ago when I did such measurements | 21:00 |
| sdake | who knows with modern hardare and quad channel ram | 21:00 |
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| sdake | (as measured with md5 ^^) | 21:02 |
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| SnowDust | anyone there to tell me how to do map template urls using parameters to create nested-template | 22:06 |
| SnowDust | sdague: can u answer me ? | 22:07 |
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| mattoliverau | Morning all | 22:10 |
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| sdake | stevebaker https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/45 | 22:41 |
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| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1306294 <-- can somebody take a look at this bug report? About to look at making a patch. | 23:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1306294 in heat "Heat fails to re-authenticate when faced with authentication failure during stack operations" [High,Triaged] | 23:23 |
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| stevebaker | SpamapS: go for it, sounds like it needs fixing | 23:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Baker proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Process provider templates for included files https://review.openstack.org/82603 | 23:46 |
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