| zaneb | kebray: after midnight there. he also mentioned he would not be around tomorrow iirc | 00:00 |
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| kebray | zaneb ok.. thx. | 00:00 |
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| kebray | stevebaker zaneb .. so, I talked to Dolph today, the creator of the BP to depricate keystone v2. | 00:01 |
| kebray | ref: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/deprecate-v2-api | 00:01 |
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| kebray | He said that v2 support in OpenStack is not going anyway anytime soon. I most likley need to take this to the mailing list, but I'm concerned Heat is dropping support for v2 too soon. | 00:02 |
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| stevebaker | kebray: to be clear, we're not dropping v2, we're adopting v3 because it has critical features that we need | 00:03 |
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| zaneb | kebray: I am completely OK with having a v2 shim or something | 00:03 |
| stevebaker | kebray: and v2 support will be back as soon as someone writes it | 00:03 |
| zaneb | kebray: but at the end of the day you won't be able to support features that require the v3 API without supporting something compatible with the v3 API, and there is nothing that Heat can do about that | 00:04 |
| zaneb | other than not implement new featues, of course, and I would be solid -1 on that ;) | 00:05 |
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| kebray | stevebaker so, what happens if no one writes back v2 support? shouldn't that be done before a new feature gets merged that breaks working w/v2? i.e. implement a feature-toggle or something to make that new feature dependent on v3 optional? | 00:12 |
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| stevebaker | kebray: in that case then icehouse heat will only work with icehouse or havana openstack, which is all we could commit to in any scenario anyway | 00:19 |
| kebray | not sure I understand the case you are describing. | 00:20 |
| kebray | Havana Heat works with Havana, and running keystone v2 is acceptable in Havana... running keystone v2 will also be acceptable for running Icehouse. | 00:20 |
| kebray | So, Icehouse Heat should work (minus some features pegged to v3) with Icehouse running v2. | 00:21 |
| stevebaker | and keystone v3 is available in havana, so we have the flexibility to switch to it now | 00:21 |
| kebray | stevebaker I'm challenging that notion. | 00:21 |
| zaneb | kebray: if you read the blueprint, it says the deprecation period is to allow clients time to upgrade | 00:23 |
| zaneb | Heat is a client, we upgraded | 00:23 |
| kebray | it's not just about supporting Havana (v3-only)... to support Havana, means also supporting Havana-v2, as v2 is legit in Havana. | 00:23 |
| stevebaker | kebray: the situation we had until now was a hybrid v2/v3 approach, which actually resulted in the v3 parts being full of bugs. It was an unsustainable situation. Step 1 is switch to pure v3, step 2 is to write a v2 shim for those who really need it | 00:23 |
| zaneb | it doesn't say anything about giving time for competing implementations to catch up | 00:24 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: ++ | 00:24 |
| kebray | zaneb yeah, I read the blueprint... v2 isn't a competing implementation. it's a still supported contract of Havana. | 00:24 |
| zaneb | also, horse, stable-door, &c. | 00:24 |
| kebray | and a supported contract for Icehouse. | 00:24 |
| zaneb | kebray: your RAX auth thing is a competing implementation of the keystone API AIUI | 00:25 |
| kebray | this affects the OpenStack eco system in ways that I don't feel are being considered. that's what I'm raising to you all. | 00:25 |
| kebray | zaneb this has NOTHING to do with Rax implementation of keystone. | 00:25 |
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| zaneb | fair, you could want to not roll out the v3 API even if you were using keystone | 00:26 |
| zaneb | kebray: so what are you suggesting instead of creating a v3 -> v2 shim? | 00:27 |
| stevebaker | kebray: actually once the v2 shim is implemented I'm hoping we can get to the point where we can write shims for auth systems that don't even vaguely resemble keystone | 00:27 |
| zaneb | rolling back changes that have already been delivered? | 00:27 |
| stevebaker | kebray: I would be interested to hear why somebody would deploy the latest keystone but leave v3 switched off | 00:28 |
| kebray | zaneb I'm asking if the shim been put into place before making a breaking change by leaping to v3? | 00:28 |
| zaneb | I was under the impression we already made that breaking change? | 00:29 |
| kebray | stevebaker I can put you in touch with the guy who can explain it if you're seriously interested. | 00:29 |
| stevebaker | kebray: sure | 00:29 |
| kebray | zaneb some of shardy | 00:29 |
| kebray | woops | 00:29 |
| kebray | some of shardy's patches just landed recently which broke v2 if I understand correctly. | 00:30 |
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| kebray | anyway, end of day my time.. I'm going to talk to my team in the morning about what our options are for putting in a shim and adding v2 support some of the new features that landed to only work with v3. | 00:30 |
| zaneb | kebray: tbh I suspect that going back to what we had is not a viable solution due to the bugs stevebaker mentioned earlier | 00:31 |
| stevebaker | kebray: when we implement our own heat v2 api, talking to your guy might help us come up with a migration strategy | 00:31 |
| kebray | My main point is, just because v2 is going to be turned off at some point in the future, it's not yet, so there are OpenStack deployments tied to it. If Heat only supports the latest greatest an doesn't support the older v2 which OpenStack Icehouse implements can run (and be official), then Heat isn't backwards compatible. | 00:31 |
| stevebaker | kebray: and the counterpoint which should be emphasised is that we're using v3 because we need it, not because v2 is deprecated | 00:32 |
| zaneb | whereas moving forward to a plug-in auth system is actually a positive change in itself | 00:32 |
| stevebaker | kebray: we would use v2 indefinitely if it met our needs, because we're lazy ;) | 00:34 |
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| kebray | stevebaker agreed on the moving forward part... but, feature toggle is a good approach, and there's a standard way to deprecate old (and support it for some time, not indefinitely) and move to new. We're cutting off v2 support when it's still supported .. that seems wrong. | 00:35 |
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| zaneb | kebray: I understand where you're coming from, but that's an odd definition of 'supported'. Supported means "if you have a v2 client it will continue to work", not "you must use the v2 client until the API disappears, and only then you may switch to v3" | 00:38 |
| stevebaker | kebray: I agree that is not ideal. I think it happened this way due to the limited time we have to get this feature in | 00:38 |
| kebray | zaneb I'm not suggesting it's a "must use" case.., not sure where you get that from. | 00:39 |
| zaneb | kebray: carried to the logical extreme, what you're suggesting would just move the problem from backwards compatibility to upwards compatibility | 00:39 |
| kebray | zaneb we are talking contracts for large pieces of functionality that operations teams have to instantiate and support to run a cloud. | 00:40 |
| zaneb | I understand, really | 00:41 |
| zaneb | and maybe in future we should consider this at an earlier juncture | 00:41 |
| kebray | stevebaker "limited time to get this feature in" is not a good argument IMO.. haven't you guys always been arguing for let's do things the right way? | 00:41 |
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| lifeless | +1:) | 00:41 |
| zaneb | but v3 has been out and supported since Havana. How many release cycle do we have to wait to adopt new features? | 00:43 |
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| zaneb | one seems not unreasonable to a first approximation | 00:43 |
| kebray | zaneb I'm totally in support of adopting v3 to support new features that depend on it.. I have not once argued against that. | 00:43 |
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| zaneb | kebray: right, and you wish that plug-in auth had been implemented before switching the base stuff over to v3 | 00:44 |
| kebray | I'm arguing that landing a feature that is v3 dependent should not break a Heat deployment that doesn't have v3... so, that "new v3 dependent feature" should be (a) feature toggle-able, or (b) optional, or ( c) an extension until v2 is decommissioned. | 00:44 |
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| zaneb | the bad news is that it wasn't, and it probably would not have been technically feasible to do so | 00:46 |
| zaneb | the goods news is that it is feasible now, and once implemented should prevent this kind of issue occurring in the future | 00:46 |
| zaneb | yes, it sucks. we know roughly how to fix it. that will give us the tools to do it better next time. | 00:48 |
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| stevebaker | victory https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-heat-slow/9/ | 01:15 |
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| skraynev | morning | 08:06 |
| asalkeld | hi | 08:08 |
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| chmouel | hello | 08:13 |
| chmouel | what others think: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69703/ | 08:13 |
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| asalkeld | chmouel, I'd rather just kill run_test.sh | 08:14 |
| asalkeld | really no point in it | 08:14 |
| asalkeld | either use "testr run" or tox | 08:14 |
| chmouel | asalkeld: yeah but sadly it seems that bunch of people are used to it all over openstack | 08:14 |
| asalkeld | I can post a patch to delete it | 08:15 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: Am I right, that run_test.sh is deprecated thing? | 08:16 |
| asalkeld | afaik | 08:16 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: Hm. So I don't see any problems for removing it instead some changes, that will be deleted soon. | 08:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: remove run_test.sh https://review.openstack.org/70070 | 08:18 |
| asalkeld | there you go :) | 08:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: remove run_test.sh https://review.openstack.org/70070 | 08:20 |
| asalkeld | oops forgot one reference | 08:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Chmouel Boudjnah proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Use python requests lib for all our http thingies https://review.openstack.org/65704 | 08:20 |
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| therve | Good morning | 08:23 |
| therve | asalkeld, I'm pretty sure run_test is used by packagers. Is it so bad to keep it? | 08:24 |
| asalkeld | IMHO too many ways to do the same thing | 08:25 |
| asalkeld | but I don't really care, as I just don't use it | 08:26 |
| asalkeld | seems like a waste | 08:26 |
| therve | Well you obviously care enough to remove it :) | 08:26 |
| asalkeld | you welcome to -{1,2} | 08:27 |
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| cmyster | morning | 08:33 |
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| shardy | Morning all | 09:43 |
| shardy | I'm on leave today so won't be around much, but if anyone has time, we have a possible gate bug to investigate: | 09:44 |
| shardy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1268732 | 09:44 |
| cmyster | morning shardy, I don't see steps to reproduce... | 09:45 |
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| chmouel | cmyster: i think reproducing is the work to investigate | 09:51 |
| chmouel | and it's quite bizarre how heat unittests can generate that amount of data | 09:51 |
| shardy | cmyster: basically run the same tests as gate-heat-python27 (tempest tests) and see if it generates a giant amount of data | 09:51 |
| cmyster | right | 09:52 |
| shardy | and/or get the CI team to instrument the gate job somehow so we can see what files are taking up all the space | 09:52 |
| shardy | I currently have no idea if the analysis is correct or what may be using up the space | 09:52 |
| shardy | anyway, a fun task for someone if you have the time ;) | 09:53 |
| shardy | bbl | 09:53 |
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| cmyster | 'fun' | 09:55 |
| cmyster | heh | 09:55 |
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| DaveJ_ | http://forgotify.com/ | 09:57 |
| therve | That's a weird problem | 09:57 |
| DaveJ_ | whoops - wrong window | 09:57 |
| therve | Considering it seems to be intermittent | 09:57 |
| therve | testrepository seems to be generating about 15M of data, but we're far from the count | 10:01 |
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| chmouel | therve: i think accessing to the gates vm has always been a no-no :( | 10:30 |
| therve | chmouel, Well maybe someone could access it for us? | 10:31 |
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| chmouel | I think the public clouds provider was disallowing this, but well maybe infra can have a way to do that | 10:31 |
| therve | We need more info anyway, as we can't reproduce it locally | 10:34 |
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| aweiteka | jpeeler, i've created a beast of a heat template and wanted to get some overall comments. but first could you look at my use of LBaaS here? https://github.com/aweiteka/heat-templates/blob/3broker/openshift-enterprise/heat/neutron/OpenShift-3B-3N-LB-neutron.yaml#L354 | 14:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: heat_keystoneclient convert delete_ec2_keypair to v3 API https://review.openstack.org/67532 | 14:22 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix user and signal responder exception import https://review.openstack.org/67533 | 14:22 |
| bada | Hi all, does anyone can tell me how to create JEOS image using this https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/jeos/U12.10-amd64-cfntools.tdl ? | 14:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix AWS::StackId pseudo-parameter during stack update https://review.openstack.org/66741 | 14:38 |
| aweiteka | bada, i believe the template files you pointed to are used by heat-jeos.sh, which looks like a wrapper for oz https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/tools/heat-jeos.sh | 14:39 |
| aweiteka | bada, https://github.com/clalancette/oz | 14:40 |
| aweiteka | bada, i haven't used oz in a long time so i can't help with that. i've been using diskimage-builder for prepping heat. | 14:42 |
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| bada | aweiteka : Thanks for answering, i wanna build ubuntu12 heat image, you recommand diskimage-builder ? | 14:47 |
| aweiteka | bada, dib seems to be openstack/heat best practice these days. here's an overview of options: http://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/ch_creating_images_automatically.html | 14:49 |
| bada | aweiteka : thanks ! There is no public Ubuntu Heat images available to download ? | 14:51 |
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| aweiteka | bada, i don't know. looks like it's mostly fedora. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/getting_started/jeos_building.html | 14:54 |
| bada | aweiteka : Yes that's what i saw ! | 14:55 |
| bada | aweiteka : thanks a lot my image is in building process right now :) | 14:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Docker resources to docs https://review.openstack.org/68753 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Rename rackspace.rst to contrib.rst https://review.openstack.org/68752 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add Rackspace resources summary to docs https://review.openstack.org/68793 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add force_resource_mapping option https://review.openstack.org/68746 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Restructure Rackspace resources https://review.openstack.org/68747 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Reorganize docker-plugin for consistency https://review.openstack.org/68748 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow force registration of docker resource https://review.openstack.org/68749 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Allow force registration of Rackspace resources https://review.openstack.org/69374 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Change Docker resource mapping name https://review.openstack.org/68750 | 15:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Generate docs for contrib plugins https://review.openstack.org/68751 | 15:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: API tolerate None environment string https://review.openstack.org/69868 | 15:27 |
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| zaneb | yaaaay, TOSCA meeting is cancelled. I might have time to do some real work :) | 15:40 |
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| therve | zaneb, You're linking that etherpad in every emails now? :) | 16:00 |
| zaneb | therve: yes :) | 16:00 |
| zaneb | I'm going to keep beating that drum until everyone has internalised the lessons of our past mistakes ;) | 16:01 |
| therve | zaneb, Note that I was careful not to mention the API in my email. I think we should push that for now. | 16:02 |
| zaneb | they're partly linked, though, right? | 16:03 |
| zaneb | if just the API were split then that solves the AWS problem... but it makes no sense to split that and not the resource | 16:04 |
| zaneb | it's good to keep the scope of the question limited, but you can't design stuff in isolation either | 16:04 |
| therve | I'm not sure I'm following | 16:04 |
| therve | Well, we should define the resource as the best UI we can | 16:05 |
| zaneb | I mean if the API has separate LaunchConfig and Scaling group resources, the Heat model of it should to, and if not, not | 16:05 |
| therve | The API is somewhat an implementation detail at that point | 16:05 |
| therve | Agreed. | 16:05 |
| zaneb | s/to/too/ | 16:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Add personality files property to Server resource https://review.openstack.org/68685 | 16:06 |
| zaneb | so a separate LaunchConfig resource in the API solves my exorcism problem... but that question is inextricably linked with the one of whether to have a separate LaunchConfig resource in Heat | 16:07 |
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| therve | zaneb, Interestingly not having a separate resource kinda solves it too :) | 16:09 |
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| therve | Not for the AWS case if that's what you meant thogh | 16:10 |
| zaneb | yes, the AWS resource is broken forever in that case | 16:10 |
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| zaneb | you're right that just having our own API means it will be solved regardless for the native stuff | 16:11 |
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| jpeeler | aweiteka: i assume the comment on the line above is the issue? | 16:18 |
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| jpeeler | therve: if you have a chance do you see anything blantantly wrong here? https://github.com/aweiteka/heat-templates/blob/3broker/openshift-enterprise/heat/neutron/OpenShift-3B-3N-LB-neutron.yaml#L354 | 16:20 |
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| therve | Hum... | 16:23 |
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| therve | jpeeler, Not obviously no. Have you tried on the command line after it failed? | 16:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Randall Burt proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add more defalt CA paths https://review.openstack.org/68836 | 16:24 |
| therve | Oh wait no | 16:25 |
| therve | jpeeler, Yeah that doesn't work | 16:25 |
| therve | jpeeler, Create a FloatingIPAssociation between that ip and the VIP address | 16:26 |
| therve | The VIP address itself has to be in the member network | 16:26 |
| aweiteka | therve, ok, ,i was just looking at FloatingIPAssociation | 16:27 |
| aweiteka | therve, so the idea is to just add a FloatingIPAssociation block and it should work? | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Randall Burt proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Configure logging regardless of debug flag https://review.openstack.org/69690 | 16:28 |
| therve | aweiteka, Yeah remove the address property, and instead an association resource | 16:28 |
| therve | We should really have an example template with that | 16:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Lars Kellogg-Stedman proposed a change to openstack/heat: serialize non-string nova metadata https://review.openstack.org/70045 | 16:29 |
| aweiteka | therve, ok, cool. i noticed address was optional. makes more sense now. | 16:29 |
| therve | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1258490 will be useful too | 16:29 |
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| jomara_ | do any of you guys have a valid environment file i can use for testing? is there one on the sample templates github repo? | 16:32 |
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| larsks | jomara_: testing with what? I have a simple HOT template and environment file, but the environment file is really just a parameters: key with three parameters. | 16:35 |
| jomara_ | larsks: im just adding the ability to upload files in horizon, so really anything is fine - i just dont knowt he file formats | 16:35 |
| jomara_ | larsks: for example, it does not like it when you upload a template :) | 16:35 |
| larsks | jomara_: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat/Environments has a sample environment file right at the top of the page. | 16:36 |
| jomara_ | oh there we go! perfect | 16:37 |
| jomara_ | thanks | 16:37 |
| jomara_ | this would have been a good place to look | 16:37 |
| larsks | :) | 16:37 |
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| jomara_ | larsks: quick question : what wins between parameters passed in manually, and parameters in the environment file? | 16:39 |
| jomara_ | does it even make sense to have both? (the UI flow is 1. select template + environment file, 2. enter parameters) | 16:39 |
| larsks | jomara_: I'm not sure. Let me try it and find out. | 16:40 |
| jomara_ | larsks: ok, thanks - for now i will just send both and let heat sort it out | 16:40 |
| jomara_ | but it might be good to inform the UI about whats going to happen | 16:40 |
| jomara_ | 0/win 3 | 16:40 |
| larsks | jomara_: On the command line, parameters passed via -P seem to override parameters in the environment file. | 16:41 |
| jomara_ | ok, itll probably work the same way then | 16:41 |
| jomara_ | thanks | 16:41 |
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| pafuent | SpamapS: Are you around? | 17:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pablo Andres Fuente proposed a change to openstack/heat: New Event uuid column and autoincremental id https://review.openstack.org/63839 | 17:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrew Plunk proposed a change to openstack/heat: raw_template hot parameter type data migration https://review.openstack.org/70050 | 17:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pablo Andres Fuente proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use a HeatIdentifier instance to create Parameters https://review.openstack.org/68257 | 17:56 |
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| SpamapS | pafuent: here now | 18:00 |
| pafuent | SpamapS: Hi. Did you have time to check my response to one of your comments? | 18:01 |
| SpamapS | pafuent: I did. Understood about freezing the models. | 18:02 |
| SpamapS | pafuent: I don't have a good way to do that.. :-/ | 18:03 |
| pafuent | SpamapS: Yes, it's ugly | 18:03 |
| pafuent | SpamapS: BTW, I managed to get it working for postrgresql | 18:04 |
| pscheie | I was trying to update a stack, replacing the flavor of one of the instances, which I've done successfully several times previously. | 18:05 |
| SpamapS | pafuent: Ah I see that. I wonder why sqlalchemy isn't just making it a SERIAL column, which is effectively the same thing. :P | 18:06 |
| pscheie | This time, I converted the json template file to yaml first (because I'm trying to move all our template to yaml) | 18:06 |
| pscheie | and then made the flavor change to the yaml file. | 18:06 |
| pscheie | But when I ran heat stack-update, the resizing of the flavor failed, though without really saying why. | 18:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Pablo Andres Fuente proposed a change to openstack/heat: Native Pseudo Parameters https://review.openstack.org/66640 | 18:07 |
| pscheie | But now the stack status is 'UPDATE_FAILED' | 18:08 |
| pscheie | and once it's in that state, it's not possible to update it anymore, is it? | 18:08 |
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| aweiteka | skraynev, i'm debugging LBaaS in my heat template and confused about floating ip addr assignment. therve pointed me here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1258490 | 18:13 |
| aweiteka | skraynev, this isn't working but I admit I'm not clear on the solution described: https://github.com/aweiteka/heat-templates/blob/3broker/openshift-enterprise/heat/neutron/OpenShift-3B-3N-LB-neutron.yaml#L331 | 18:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Pablo Andres Fuente proposed a change to openstack/heat: Prevent access Parameters key in template dict https://review.openstack.org/68312 | 18:16 |
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| fungi | just as a heads up, i've been scraping heat unit test jobs for unrelated reasons, but keep seeing these eventlet tracebacks... https://jenkins06.openstack.org/job/gate-heat-python27/58/console (just want to make sure they're on somebody's radar) | 18:59 |
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| pafuent | SpamapS: It's alive! (+1 Jenkins) | 19:05 |
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| SpamapS | pafuent: sweet. and the frozen schema actually makes a lot of sense now to me btw. :) | 19:17 |
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| sdake | fungi I'll file a bug | 19:19 |
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| sdake | fungi we used to see that long ago and I believe we had fixed it, but perhaps not | 19:19 |
| sdake | unfortunately the last time I saw it was a couple cycles ago so I don't recall the details of what was fixed | 19:20 |
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| fungi | sdake: fwiw, it was showing up in ~75 percent of the py26 and py27 unit test logs i saw for heat today | 19:20 |
| sdake | odd maybe a new regression | 19:20 |
| fungi | but it wasn't causing the jobs to be marked as failed (not sure whether that's correct behavior or not for these) | 19:21 |
| fungi | anyway, i guess that answers my questions as to whether it was a known situation. thanks! | 19:21 |
| fungi | i'm still poking at trying to catch one of the unit test runs filling up disk space--no luck there yet (that's how i ended up spotting those tracebacks) | 19:22 |
| sdake | fungi I would really expect a backtrace to stop the unit tests and mark them as failed | 19:23 |
| clarkb | sdake: fungi: I think that is happening between tests | 19:23 |
| SpamapS | pafuent: +2'd, thanks for pushing this one forward! :) | 19:24 |
| jasond | sdake: wouldn't we just need to http://paste.openstack.org/show/62195/ ? | 19:28 |
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| sdake | jasond that might indeed fix it | 19:32 |
| sdake | jasond I can't help thinking we actually use that information in describe though on the output side | 19:33 |
| sdake | so not saving it may result in other problems | 19:33 |
| pafuent | SpamapS: You are welcome | 19:33 |
| jasond | sdake: i think it only happens during delete | 19:33 |
| sdake | i see | 19:33 |
| sdake | that rings a bell, the delete + describe race | 19:34 |
| jasond | i'll go ahead and submit this fix | 19:34 |
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| sdake | jasond I filed a bug for it | 19:40 |
| jasond | sdake: thanks. i grabbed it | 19:40 |
| sdake | cool | 19:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Only update_and_save if the stack exists https://review.openstack.org/70209 | 20:08 |
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| SpamapS | jasond: I can haz tests!? ;) | 20:31 |
| jasond | SpamapS: sure | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Lars Kellogg-Stedman proposed a change to openstack/heat: serialize non-string nova metadata https://review.openstack.org/70045 | 20:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make Server compatible with Nova Key Pair resource https://review.openstack.org/68230 | 20:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Native Nova Server compatibility for Cloud Server https://review.openstack.org/58043 | 20:43 |
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| sdake | larsks that patch looks good, but I dont have time atm to review - but nice work :) | 20:54 |
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| stevebaker | larsks: just one nit | 20:58 |
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| larsks | stevebaker: noted, off to my editor I go... | 21:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lars Kellogg-Stedman proposed a change to openstack/heat: serialize non-string nova metadata https://review.openstack.org/70045 | 21:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Only update_and_save if the stack exists https://review.openstack.org/70209 | 21:13 |
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| larsks | In an example like http://openstack.redhat.com/Deploy_an_application_with_Heat, from where does cfn-init get credentials? If I run it by hand on a heat-deployed F20 image, I just get a bunch of errors (No credentials!). | 22:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Make Server compatible with Nova Key Pair resource https://review.openstack.org/68230 | 22:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Native Nova Server compatibility for Cloud Server https://review.openstack.org/58043 | 22:24 |
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| stevebaker | jasond: I was under the impression that personalities was deprecated in nova, which was why I didn't expose it in OS::Nova::Server. Maybe russellb can weigh in on just how much we should be discouraging users to use it | 22:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat-templates: Fix cfn-isms in OpenShift Enterprise Neutron template https://review.openstack.org/70006 | 22:28 |
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| stevebaker | larsks: cfn-init doesn't actually need credentials, since cloud-init should ensure that the required metadata is already local on disk | 22:29 |
| stevebaker | larsks: is this running cfn/F17/WordPress_Composed_Instances.template ? | 22:30 |
| larsks | stevebaker: I've got that open in a browser window and I'm trying to figure out the cfn bits. | 22:31 |
| larsks | ...so not actually running it. "Manual inspection" | 22:31 |
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| larsks | I was working towards "can I set up waitcondition's using HOT templates?", but hadn't previously look at conditions/signaling and I'm using this template as an example. | 22:34 |
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| stevebaker | larsks: is this for tempest? | 22:35 |
| larsks | stevebaker: Nope, just for me. | 22:36 |
| stevebaker | ok | 22:36 |
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| larsks | stevebaker: so...creating wait conditions requires identity:create_user permissions to keystone? | 22:43 |
| stevebaker | larsks: yes, a waithandle is signed with a keypair from a user which is created for that handle. But that keypair does not need to be deployed to the instance - its just a webhook | 22:44 |
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| larsks | Hmm. With a typical keystone install, only admins can create users. I guess this is where keystone trusts will make things easier? | 22:46 |
| larsks | Anyway, have to go take care of dinner. Thanks for the answers! | 22:46 |
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| stevebaker | larsks: yes, this has been heat's number 1 challange for its entire existence, shardy_afk is close to fixing it with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/instance-users | 22:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: HOT templates get_attr allows extra attributes https://review.openstack.org/67562 | 23:54 |
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