| andersonvom | SpamapS: great. this should get me started! thanks! =) | 00:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Randall Burt proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use region for cinder management uri https://review.openstack.org/66406 | 00:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zane Bitter proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fix AWS::StackId pseudo-parameter during stack update https://review.openstack.org/66741 | 00:47 |
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| radix | good evening | 02:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Angus Salkeld proposed a change to openstack/heat: Use oslo crypto https://review.openstack.org/59685 | 02:36 |
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| stevebaker | andersonvom: if you put the comment "check experimental" in a heat or tempest review then the heat tests which launch servers will run (and fail) | 02:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mitsuru Kanabuchi proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implements resource type NetworkGateway https://review.openstack.org/62287 | 06:23 |
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| skraynev | hello all) | 07:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed a change to openstack/heat: Remove heat-cli-guide https://review.openstack.org/66122 | 07:41 |
| openstackgerrit | huangtianhua proposed a change to openstack/heat: Fixes template not using the JSON or YAML format https://review.openstack.org/65644 | 07:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Let Integer property convert strings to numbers https://review.openstack.org/66265 | 07:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jun Jie Nan proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Add support for software config resources https://review.openstack.org/58885 | 09:22 |
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| MaximB | shardy: hello, I've installed the rhel openstack on centos, it works fine however when I try to deply a machine (boot from iso) the booting is extremely slow (it's inside a VMware machine), why is it? ( gave it 4 cores and 4GB RAM) | 09:28 |
| shardy | MaximB: because inside a VM you don't have hardware accellerated virtualization (unless you can use nested virt, which it sounds like you can't) | 09:29 |
| shardy | whatever you're running the hypervisor on really needs to be bare-metal if performance is a priority | 09:30 |
| MaximB | shardy: so what is the correct way to make it work with our VMware ESXi machine? | 09:30 |
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| shardy | MaximB: I don't know, I've never tried it, but there are docs related to using VMWare as a hypervisor via a driver for nova-compute | 09:31 |
| MaximB | shardy: strange, when trying to install centos6.5 from image inside openstack, it says on the hd step "no suitable hard disk was found"... but it's just made a "small" instance | 09:35 |
| shardy | you're trying to boot the install iso? | 09:36 |
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| MaximB | shardy: yes | 09:41 |
| MaximB | shardy: it does boot into the install, but won't recognize the hard disk | 09:42 |
| shardy | MaximB: That is not the way openstack typically works, you store pre-installed OS images in glance, then boot them via nova | 09:42 |
| shardy | http://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/ch_obtaining_images.html | 09:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Turn block_device_mapping.volumes_size to int https://review.openstack.org/66804 | 11:22 |
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| tsmadds | shardy: Hey, how's it going? | 11:27 |
| tsmadds | shardy: No rush but just checking in to see if you've had a chance to look at that boto create stacks issue? | 11:28 |
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| shardy | tsmadds: Hi, not yet, still working through reviews, it's next on my todo list | 11:29 |
| tsmadds | shardy: Cool. Thanks for the update | 11:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Serg Melikyan proposed a change to openstack/heat: Implements resource availability based on Keystone https://review.openstack.org/66811 | 11:37 |
| sergmelikyan | https://review.openstack.org/66811 - it first raw version, I need to be sure that I had correctly grasped idea of the original blueprint | 11:40 |
| sergmelikyan | shardy, SpamapS could you take a look? | 11:40 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Add to_dict() method to Resource class https://review.openstack.org/65269 | 11:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Sergey Kraynev proposed a change to openstack/heat: Showing member list for nested resources https://review.openstack.org/65970 | 11:45 |
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| shardy | sergmelikyan: Looks like a good start to me, added a few comments | 11:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Simon Pasquier proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: Remove unused heatclient.common.base module https://review.openstack.org/66815 | 11:57 |
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| sergmelikyan | shardy, thx! | 12:01 |
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| shardy | tsmadds: Hi, I've just tested boto 2.13.3 and 2.23.0 with trunk heat and keystone, and all works fine | 13:02 |
| shardy | tsmadds: I also tested boto 2.6.0 and latest trunk (agent tagged 2.23.0) with a Havana install, and it all works too | 13:03 |
| shardy | tsmadds: I used the "heat-boto" debug tool from https://github.com/openstack-dev/heat-cfnclient | 13:04 |
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| sdake | morning | 13:13 |
| shadower | hey | 13:13 |
| shardy | Hi sdake | 13:13 |
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| radix | good morning | 13:14 |
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| shadower | looking at the bug list. Anything anyone wants fixed but don't have the time for? | 13:15 |
| shadower | otherwise I'll just start picking things at rundom | 13:15 |
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| sdake | gettingselinux working would be nice | 13:18 |
| sdake | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1257410 | 13:20 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1257410 in heat "Heat disables selinux by default making selinux enabled instances nonfunctional" [High,Confirmed] | 13:20 |
| sdake | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1257410 | 13:21 |
| sdake | oops sorry for douple post | 13:21 |
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| shadower | sdake: thanks, will have a look | 13:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pablo Andres Fuente proposed a change to openstack/heat: Native Pseudo Parameters https://review.openstack.org/66640 | 13:41 |
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| shadower | sdake: what about migrating the f18 HOT templates to f19? Something we wanna see happen? https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/tree/master/hot | 13:42 |
| shadower | the WordPress_native.yaml needs updating anyway (e.g. the parameters shouldn't force a cfntools image since it's all about not needing cfntools) | 13:43 |
| shardy | shadower: we should probably move examples to F20 as the official cloud image now includes heat-cfntools | 13:44 |
| shardy | shadower: Yeah, the image name was just cfntools as that's what I had when writing the template ;) | 13:46 |
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| shadower | shardy: ah right. Still of f19 myself | 13:49 |
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| shadower | I'll file a bug and look into it | 13:49 |
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| sdake | shadower I would love for someone to move all the f18 templates to f20 ;) | 13:58 |
| shadower | will od | 13:59 |
| shadower | do | 13:59 |
| shadower | oh, *all* the templates | 13:59 |
| shadower | um... | 13:59 |
| shardy | lol | 14:00 |
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| sdake | ya big job, would settle for some ;) | 14:00 |
| shardy | ;) | 14:00 |
| shadower | haha | 14:00 |
| shadower | there's a bunch of f17 templates, too | 14:00 |
| sdake | ya we need to deprecate f17/f18, since they are eol | 14:00 |
| shadower | yeah | 14:00 |
| shardy | Considering Fedora's release cadence I don't think it's practical to keep pace with every release, and many of the existing templates work fine on F20 anyway | 14:00 |
| shardy | The one change was from F20->F18 IIRC where some httpd option changed | 14:01 |
| sdake | well f19 introduced firewalld iirc, so all the templates need to be modified to deal with that | 14:01 |
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| shardy | sorry F17->F18 | 14:01 |
| shardy | sdake: that is no longer necessary with F20 cloud images AFAICS | 14:01 |
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| shardy | I guess they disable firewalld for those by default | 14:02 |
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| sdake | well ideally someone would go through, test the f17 templates, and if they work submit them for f20 | 14:03 |
| sdake | not sure who that someone is though :) | 14:03 |
| shardy | ya | 14:03 |
| shadower | I may do some of that | 14:03 |
| shadower | at least the image names will have to be changed | 14:03 |
| shadower | they hardcode things like F17-i386-cfntools | 14:03 |
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| shadower | how about we have a reasonable default (like f20-cloud-image or something) and allow the user to specify their own image name? That would make things much more portable | 14:04 |
| sdake | shadower ideally we want the arch in the image name as well as the distro version | 14:05 |
| sdake | because different arches result in different memory footprint limits | 14:05 |
| shadower | right | 14:05 |
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| pafuent | Hi, Could someone check this bug? | 14:15 |
| pafuent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1259968 | 14:15 |
| pafuent | I think this isn't a bug, but I'm new with keystone and I'm not sure. | 14:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1259968 in heat "Heat seems to ignore auth_uri" [High,Triaged] | 14:15 |
| tsmadds | shardy: Awesome. So would that suggest that the issue I'm encountering is fixed in 2013.2.1? | 14:16 |
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| tsmadds | shardy: Either that or something's borked in my install | 14:17 |
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| shardy | tsmadds: yes, or uh yes ;) | 14:19 |
| shardy | tsmadds: http://paste.openstack.org/show/61262/ | 14:19 |
| shardy | Those are the Havana versions I tested | 14:19 |
| shardy | pafuent: I've certainly not seen that, I'd suspect there is a stale paste.ini file somewhere which contains a different auth_uri | 14:22 |
| shardy | pafuent: the paste files take precedence over the .conf files IIRC | 14:22 |
| tsmadds | shardy: Thanks for all the help | 14:24 |
| shardy | tsmadds: np | 14:25 |
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| sergmelikyan | Can someone look to https://review.openstack.org/57717 - already have +2 from core reviewer | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Turn block_device_mapping.volume_size to int https://review.openstack.org/66804 | 14:41 |
| pafuent | shardy: Ok. But besides that, in the keystone code auth_uri is only used to fill the WWW-Authenticate, and the auth_host is used to build the request_uri. So I think that auth_uri isn't used to reach keystone API | 14:44 |
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| pafuent | shardy: Maybe I'm missing something in the code. | 14:45 |
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| pshchelo | hi all, what's the deal with tox contrib environment? should I care about it failing when I run 'tox'? | 15:05 |
| pshchelo | s/failing/fails | 15:05 |
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| radix | pshchelo: well, you should at least proabbly let someone know I guess :) | 15:23 |
| pshchelo | first it failed due to missing pyrax dependency | 15:24 |
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| radix | ok, that's normal, since most of the code in there are the rackspace resoures | 15:25 |
| pshchelo | when I've added it, it now fails with ConnectionError: HTTPConnectionPool(host='server.test', port=5000): Max retries exceeded with url: /v2.0/tokens | 15:25 |
| radix | hm, that looks like a bad test | 15:25 |
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| pshchelo | many-many of them, 18 times | 15:26 |
| radix | yeah, I'm getting that too | 15:26 |
| shardy | radix: do we need to be un-approving https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61191/ ? | 15:26 |
| radix | shardy: well, I guess we'll see what the gate says... | 15:27 |
| shardy | haha | 15:27 |
| radix | I'll try to take a look at those test failures today | 15:28 |
| pshchelo | so my question was - are these tests supposed to pass on arbitrary dev environment after 'git clone' and 'tox'? | 15:28 |
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| radix | pscheie: Ideally yes, or skipped | 15:28 |
| radix | I thought most of the tests skipped if pyrax wasn't installed, so there may be a bug there too | 15:29 |
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| radix | some other rackers should be getting on shortly | 15:31 |
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| sdake | radix re autoscaling | 15:34 |
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| radix | hello :) | 15:35 |
| sdake | radix what are your current plans? | 15:35 |
| therve | pshchelo, They work for me | 15:35 |
| radix | sdake: hack like crazy :) | 15:35 |
| radix | sdake: I'm going to be submitting a patch today for part of the "as-lib" blueprint | 15:35 |
| sdake | targeting icehouse 3, or trying to wrap it all up in juno? | 15:35 |
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| radix | I'd like to get at least some intermediate work done in Icehouse, like the as-intermediate-resources | 15:36 |
| radix | if the planets align, maybe everything will be done by icehouse-3 | 15:36 |
| sdake | planets never align :) | 15:36 |
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| sdake | radix cool thanks for the info | 15:38 |
| radix | yeah, indeed :\ | 15:38 |
| sdake | radix autoscaling is generally important to alot of folks, and one of the core features of heat | 15:38 |
| sdake | so get er done ;) | 15:38 |
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| radix | aye aye :) | 15:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Simon Pasquier proposed a change to openstack/heat-cfntools: Fix logging in cfn-init and cfn-signal https://review.openstack.org/66874 | 15:44 |
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| pshchelo | therve: on my station 'tox -econtrib' after having recreated the env fails on current master with 'pyrax' not found in several tests | 15:45 |
| therve | Maybe my tox contains something | 15:46 |
| therve | pshchelo, No still works for me | 15:49 |
| pshchelo | ok, but I'll file a bug anyway so we can discuss it more | 15:50 |
| therve | Well it's hard to discuss if I can't reproduce it | 15:51 |
| pshchelo | have you tried to recreate the contrib environment? | 15:52 |
| therve | I removed the tox directory, so yes | 15:52 |
| pshchelo | trying new clone from scratch | 15:53 |
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| pshchelo | nope, the same | 16:00 |
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| therve | That's weird | 16:01 |
| therve | And you're on latest master? | 16:02 |
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| jasond | pshchelo: try it with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61191/ | 16:03 |
| pshchelo | this commit has no contrib env in tox | 16:04 |
| openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor Parameters Schema based on common Schema https://review.openstack.org/65688 | 16:05 |
| jasond | pshchelo: that commit is due to merge anytime now, so your bug will be invalid | 16:05 |
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| SpamapS | sergmelikyan: just now starting my work day. I'll look at it soon. | 16:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Unscoped List Stacks https://review.openstack.org/63041 | 16:26 |
| pshchelo | jasond: yes, tried to merge and `tox` worked. So I will invalidate the bug when this patch merges. | 16:27 |
| jasond | pshchelo: thanks | 16:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Spatzier proposed a change to openstack/heat: Refactor Parameters Schema based on common Schema https://review.openstack.org/65688 | 16:36 |
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| tspatzier | zaneb, I just posted a new change set of the param schema work as discussed two days ago. Please have a look as your time permits | 16:43 |
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| shadower | today's meeting's at 8pm UTC, right? | 17:01 |
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| shardy | shadower: yup | 17:03 |
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| shadower | cool, will try to make it | 17:04 |
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| jpeeler | sdake: is it ok to have openstack-heat-templates not versioned based on openstack release? right now it's exactly the same in every branch, but could that change in the future? | 17:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vijendar Komalla proposed a change to openstack/python-heatclient: python-heatclient stack-abandon support https://review.openstack.org/62925 | 17:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Turn block_device_mapping.volume_size to int https://review.openstack.org/66896 | 17:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed a change to openstack/heat: Turn block_device_mapping.volume_size to int https://review.openstack.org/66804 | 17:16 |
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| pshchelo | first one^ is a mistake after git reset | 17:17 |
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| sdake | jpeeler I don't mind if we continue to make git snapshots in the rpms | 17:22 |
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| sdake | to have the RPMs versioned, upstream would have to tag a release | 17:23 |
| sdake | so if the heat community thinks it makes sense to "release" the heat-templates repo, we could version at that point | 17:23 |
| sdake | jpeeler can you add an item to the wednesday meeting to discuss further? | 17:24 |
| jpeeler | yeah | 17:25 |
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| SpamapS | randallburt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1269471 (singling you out as the lord of the pyrax/contrib lands and all that is within them) | 17:56 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1269471 in heat "tox fails contrib environment tests" [High,Confirmed] | 17:56 |
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| jasond | SpamapS: can you try that with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61191/ ? | 17:58 |
| jasond | pshchelo said he would mark that bug invalid as soon as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61191/ is merged | 17:59 |
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| SpamapS | jasond: ah yeah, if that eliminates -econtrib then agreed bug 1269471 will be Invalid | 18:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1269471 in heat "tox fails contrib environment tests" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1269471 | 18:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Update variable name in test_shell.py https://review.openstack.org/64094 | 18:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Fix some trivial py3 errors https://review.openstack.org/66050 | 18:48 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Fix heat-keystone-setup error when try to create heat user https://review.openstack.org/65238 | 18:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anderson Mesquita proposed a change to openstack/heat: Assign X-Auth-Url header in a separate middleware https://review.openstack.org/60991 | 18:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Close SSH connections in Cloud Servers resource https://review.openstack.org/65761 | 19:01 |
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| sdake | for new devs looking to get involved in Heat, implementing this would be a great way to get started: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1269551 | 19:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1269551 in heat "Add tempest test for heat resource AWS::EC2::EIP" [Wishlist,New] | 19:15 |
| pscheie | I'm trying to implement an InstanceGroup in my heat template. | 19:16 |
| pscheie | For our other resources, we specify a SecurityGroup, but that's not a property of an InstanceGroup. | 19:17 |
| pscheie | So, where would those properties (open ports, etc) go? | 19:17 |
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| pscheie | Same for InstanceType. | 19:22 |
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| stevebaker | morning | 19:32 |
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| sdake | morning stevebaker | 19:33 |
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| andersonvom | morning | 19:38 |
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| arbylee | I'm looking to update the docs found here, but not sure how it's generated: http://api.openstack.org/api-ref-orchestration.html#orchestration-v1 Can someone point me in the right direction? | 19:38 |
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| stevebaker | arbylee: It will be generated from one of the docs git repos | 19:43 |
| stevebaker | arbylee: try git repo api-site | 19:44 |
| arbylee | thanks, I'll take a look | 19:45 |
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| stevebaker | (almost) meeting time | 19:58 |
| shardy | arbylee: Here's an example patch updating the API docs: | 19:58 |
| shardy | arbylee: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65978/ | 19:58 |
| SpamapS | we doing a meeting? | 20:00 |
| SpamapS | or is it alt-day ? | 20:00 |
| andersonvom | I was wondering the same thing | 20:00 |
| andersonvom | the wiki still says the same time | 20:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adds extraroutes support to neutron routers https://review.openstack.org/41044 | 20:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kevin Benton proposed a change to openstack/heat: Adds extraroutes support to neutron routers https://review.openstack.org/41044 | 20:19 |
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| skraynev__ | zaneb, SpamapS: guys, I know, that there is meeting time and you are busy, but I ask you: could lee your answers or ideas about this bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1262196, https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1264518, https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1260345 | 20:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1262196 in heat "Add attribute 'first_address' to OS::Neutron::Port" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 20:28 |
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| SpamapS | skraynev__: I'll take a look after lunch.. stomach growling | 20:54 |
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| skraynev__ | SpamapS: it's ok) there is middle of thi night in my time zone) So I will look it only at the morning) | 20:59 |
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| kbenton | stevebaker: neutron will raise an exception if you add a route to a network that the router has no connectivity to | 21:01 |
| kbenton | stevebaker: so the dependency is necessary | 21:01 |
| stevebaker | kbenton: so we do have a dependency issue to solve then? | 21:01 |
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| kbenton | stevebaker: yes, the current code works to fix that, but zaneb pointed out that it's hackey | 21:02 |
| kbenton | stevebaker: since it manually establishes the dependency rather than letting heat figure it out | 21:02 |
| stevebaker | doesn't the neutron resource in question just need to expose an attribute which yields its IP address? Then the deps can be managed with a get_attr call | 21:02 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: ^ | 21:03 |
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| kbenton | stevebaker: resources can have multiple IP addresses | 21:03 |
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| stevebaker | kbenton: yes, so your get_attr call selects the right one | 21:04 |
| stevebaker | (which is difficult right now, but that is a tangental issue) | 21:04 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: so, that would work if people used it | 21:04 |
| kbenton | stevebaker: How will get_attr select the right one? | 21:05 |
| zaneb | i.e. so long as there is no way to specify the IP address in advance | 21:05 |
| zaneb | kbenton: Allow me to answer that with this diagram I have been preparing: http://paste.openstack.org/show/61305/ | 21:05 |
| radix | uh, weird | 21:05 |
| radix | apparently blueprints can live in different series than their milestones | 21:06 |
| stevebaker | kbenton: if the attribute returns a complex data structure then it will be possible to reference a single value from that structure, with a list of dict and array keys | 21:06 |
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| stevebaker | radix: I think the series gets synced from the milestone with a script | 21:06 |
| radix | oh | 21:06 |
| kbenton | zaneb: it matters which we pick if one of the IPs is portable | 21:07 |
| kbenton | zaneb: or if one is a floating IP | 21:07 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: _is_ there any way to force a certain IP to be assigned to an interface? | 21:07 |
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| zaneb | kbenton: portable? | 21:07 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: port->fixed_ips? | 21:08 |
| pscheie | I'm trying to use InstanceGroup in my template, as shown at http://pastebin.com/EgDPPqfF | 21:08 |
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| kbenton | zaneb: if an administrator plans to reassign an address to a different instance | 21:09 |
| pscheie | But when I run heat with it, it fails on validating the InstanceGroup | 21:09 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: right, so people are more likely to just use the same input for both rather than chaining them. it's a potential support nightmare | 21:09 |
| radix | pscheie: with what error? | 21:09 |
| kbenton | zaneb: if we reference a port UUID, the route is then tightly bound to a specific device | 21:09 |
| zaneb | kbenton: then we need to arrange it so that doing that modifies something in the dependency chain, then Heat will automatically update | 21:10 |
| pscheie | radix, http://pastebin.com/veb6d7bn | 21:10 |
| zaneb | that's the beauty of the dependency chain, if you can model it right | 21:10 |
| pscheie | Says "u'nova'" is not a list | 21:10 |
| radix | D: | 21:10 |
| zaneb | kbenton: re floating IPs... is that even a valid target of a route? | 21:11 |
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| kbenton | zaneb: that implies the end device is managed by heat then? | 21:11 |
| zaneb | in theory, no | 21:12 |
| kbenton | zaneb: anything on a subnet connected to a router is a valid target of a route | 21:12 |
| kbenton | zaneb: so if it's not managed, how can the user reference it if we aren't using IP addresses? | 21:13 |
| zaneb | is a floating IP on a subnet, though | 21:13 |
| kbenton | it is often on the subnet of the router's gateway network | 21:13 |
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| zaneb | so, if Neutron was designed with orchestration in mind, then changing the IP address on a port would involve changing the uuid | 21:17 |
| zaneb | or, as a simpler alternative, the extraroutes API would take an interface as an argument instead of an IP address | 21:18 |
| kbenton | zaneb: a port can have multiple IP addresses though | 21:18 |
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| zaneb | but it doesn't, so we're doomed to not being able to model it correctly in Heat | 21:18 |
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| zaneb | the best solution here is fix Neutron ;D | 21:19 |
| kbenton | zaneb: taking an interface would make it painful for administrators to add routes via the command line | 21:19 |
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| zaneb | basically, orchestration works well in the case where whenever any given step depends on a previous step, it takes as a parameter some output of the previous step | 21:22 |
| zaneb | which is actually just good UI design in general | 21:22 |
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| zaneb | because it makes it obvious to the user what they need to have done already to complete each step | 21:22 |
| zaneb | rather than trial and read the error messages | 21:23 |
| kbenton | yes, but the reason the extraroutes plugin exists is because they need connectivity to networks not managed by openstack | 21:24 |
| kbenton | possibly via devices not managed by openstack | 21:24 |
| zaneb | but are those networks not connected to something in openstack via a port or gateway on a router? | 21:25 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/python-heatclient: Sync strutils from oslo https://review.openstack.org/66276 | 21:25 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Add stack id and resource id in logs https://review.openstack.org/66391 | 21:25 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Implement neutron metering resources https://review.openstack.org/62378 | 21:25 |
| zaneb | if not how are we routing to them? | 21:25 |
| kbenton | an openstack router's gateway network could have hundreds of other devices | 21:26 |
| kbenton | and we need to point to one of them | 21:26 |
| zaneb | so a gateway isn't really a gateway, it's a portal to another subnet? | 21:27 |
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| kbenton | a gateway just references an external network. that network could have many devices on it | 21:29 |
| kbenton | the external network is configured with a gateway IP, which is what the router will use as the default route | 21:29 |
| zaneb | ok, but traditionally you think of a gateway as a point-to-point link. What you're saying is that there is a whole subnet attached which has no representation inside OpenStack | 21:30 |
| kbenton | the subnet is a neutron subnet | 21:30 |
| zaneb | if this is the whole reason that extraroute exists then the problem can be solved by requiring a gateway id and an IP address as the nexthop | 21:30 |
| zaneb | ok, so it's a neutron subnet but there are things you can connect to in it that are no attached to neutron ports? | 21:31 |
| kbenton | yeah, an external subnet can contain other devices | 21:32 |
| kbenton | this is often wear the connectivity to the outside network is so it at least has a router not managed by neutron | 21:32 |
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| kbenton | where* | 21:33 |
| zaneb | that's the gateway, isn't it? | 21:33 |
| kbenton | that's the gateway IP for that subnet | 21:34 |
| kbenton | but that subnet could have VPN termination devices, etc on it | 21:35 |
| kbenton | which is what would be useful to target with a route | 21:35 |
| zaneb | but those don't have ports associated in Neutron? | 21:36 |
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| kbenton | no | 21:37 |
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| kbenton | zaneb: i have to head out for another meeting. can you post comments on the review? | 21:44 |
| zaneb | 'k, I am also in a meeting atm ;) | 21:44 |
| kbenton | thanks | 21:44 |
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| andersonvom | shardy: you around? | 22:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jason Dunsmore proposed a change to openstack/heat: Native Nova Server compatibility for Cloud Server https://review.openstack.org/58043 | 22:38 |
| zaneb | andersonvom: unlikely at this hour | 22:38 |
| andersonvom | zaneb: yeah.. true =\ | 22:39 |
| andersonvom | zaneb: maybe you'll know something about this. are the wadl files for the API site being generated somehow? or do we write them by hand? | 22:39 |
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| stevebaker | by hand I believe | 22:44 |
| zaneb | by hand, yeah | 22:45 |
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| andersonvom | interesting... a lot of the file really looks like it was generated. | 22:48 |
| andersonvom | based on the formatting | 22:48 |
| arbylee | stevebaker, zaneb: hmmm ok. just making sure. there are these giant chunks of odd spacing, but looking more closely it looks like it's just sticking to a 72 char limit | 22:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/heat: Added heat url in config for heat standalone mode https://review.openstack.org/64518 | 23:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tim Schnell proposed a change to openstack/heat: Updates template_validate call to validate parameter_groups. https://review.openstack.org/61601 | 23:40 |
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